Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[Mauser]

I am not sure about the vaccine that really works well to prevent being exposed to the Covid-19 virus, it is better to fight Covid by following the health protocols made by the government than with vaccines, maybe the vaccine does not actually protect but makes the virus even more virulent. because sufferers who die from Covid-19 usually already have congenital chronic diseases, for those who have a fit body usually will recover on their own, there is no need to take risks because life is very valuable.

I feel like the health protocols are not working any more. We have been in lockdown for 8 months and didn't change anything..the virus is spreading faster than ever. There is no real end insight without a vaccine in my opinion. So far around 1 million people already got the vaccine in USA, UK and Canada. I didn't read any news about bad reactions and side effects. Let's hope it stays like this.

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[Tash]

I am not sure about the vaccine that really works well to prevent being exposed to the Covid-19 virus, it is better to fight Covid by following the health protocols made by the government than with vaccines, maybe the vaccine does not actually protect but makes the virus even more virulent. because sufferers who die from Covid-19 usually already have congenital chronic diseases, for those who have a fit body usually will recover on their own, there is no need to take risks because life is very valuable.

I feel like the health protocols are not working any more. We have been in lockdown for 8 months and didn't change anything..the virus is spreading faster than ever. There is no real end insight without a vaccine in my opinion. So far around 1 million people already got the vaccine in USA, UK and Canada. I didn't read any news about bad reactions and side effects. Let's hope it stays like this.

I for one will stick with my own immune system, they can keep the mark of the beast shit.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1342795933910761474
Now go  wear the mask to hide your paralyzed deformed face.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I for one will stick with my own immune system, they can keep the mark of the beast shit.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1342795933910761474

Bell's palsy has a background incidence of up to 5 cases per 10,000 people every year. Over a million have been vaccinated, so at least 500 of them will have Bell's palsy, completely unrelated to the vaccine.

You do realize that, right? Or the next time someone crashes their car, will that be the vaccine's fault too?

[tvbcof]

I am not sure about the vaccine that really works well to prevent being exposed to the Covid-19 virus, it is better to fight Covid by following the health protocols made by the government than with vaccines, maybe the vaccine does not actually protect but makes the virus even more virulent. because sufferers who die from Covid-19 usually already have congenital chronic diseases, for those who have a fit body usually will recover on their own, there is no need to take risks because life is very valuable.

I feel like the health protocols are not working any more. We have been in lockdown for 8 months and didn't change anything..the virus is spreading faster than ever. There is no real end insight without a vaccine in my opinion. So far around 1 million people already got the vaccine in USA, UK and Canada. I didn't read any news about bad reactions and side effects. Let's hope it stays like this.

I for one will stick with my own immune system, they can keep the mark of the beast shit.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1342795933910761474

Note that government consultants like Cass Sunstein have cooked up all kinds of nasty schemes such as to fake things for social media then later discredit them to try to paint a negative picture of those who would act counter to corp/gov favored priorities.  That's just one example device of many which he's described in his 'academic' work.

Such operations are not rocket science to come up with, but most people would be to paralyzed with 'cognitive dissonance' to believe that 'our government' could possibly do such things.  They absolutely can and they absolutely do.

I'm not saying that this is what is happening with this lady.  All I am saying is that the more you feel a visceral sense of outrage which makes you want to immediately share a post, the more you should take a deep breath and ask yourself if it can be verified and if it really needs to be posted that minute.  Re-watch the thing for any indication of stage-craft or crisis acting.

Cass Sunstein bases his work on the 'fact' that the peeps are stupid non-thinking cattle who can be herded into anything.  Whether his philosophy is quasi-religious on his part or not I do not know, but he's defiantly an evil mother-fucker and I would love to see him proven wrong.

Edit:  Note that some years ago the Smith-Mundt act was 'modernized' so that 'the government' CAN directly target the domestic population of the U.S. with propaganda.  The original went in right after WW-II when the war no longer justified this behavior.  Prior to the 'modernization' they were supposed to not do so and a work-around was to plant media stories overseas and hope that they got re-circulated in the U.S..  The 'modernization' probably doesn't mean what people would assume.  In practice what it means is most likely that the state department can give the legal authorization to certain operations (and can probably find some black-budget funds if need be) but it is rarely if ever the case that they would directly design or even participate in operations beyond coordinating with high-level people in various departments who could blow an operation.

[Natsuu]

I for one will stick with my own immune system, they can keep the mark of the beast shit.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1342795933910761474

Bell's palsy has a background incidence of up to 5 cases per 10,000 people every year. Over a million have been vaccinated, so at least 500 of them will have Bell's palsy, completely unrelated to the vaccine.

You do realize that, right? Or the next time someone crashes their car, will that be the vaccine's fault too?

This had been explained to both baddecker and tash for like hundreds of times yet they won't believe it. It is pretty much a loop in this forum when talking to both, where they just posts some link regarding some "CONSPIRACIES" that can be easily debunked in just a simple logic and common sense.

BadDecker believed in Natures way of healing everybody like a miracle, cause "Nature knows what they're doing"

[tvbcof]

Bell's palsy has a background incidence of up to 5 cases per 10,000 people every year. Over a million have been vaccinated, so at least 500 of them will have Bell's palsy, completely unrelated to the vaccine.

Do you see the problem Mr. fake doctor and resident dumb-fuck?

[Gyfts]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/boston-doctor-has-allergic-reaction-to-modernas-covid-vaccine-uses-own-epipen/2266240/

Another allergic reaction. It's isolated of course but it's also something to take into consideration if you have a history of such reactions. Doesn't much to instill confidence because the anti-vax crowd will use this as more ammo that the vaccine is dangerous. On that point though, does anyone remember any allergic reactions from the clinical trials being reported?

[tvbcof]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/boston-doctor-has-allergic-reaction-to-modernas-covid-vaccine-uses-own-epipen/2266240/

Another allergic reaction. It's isolated of course but it's also something to take into consideration if you have a history of such reactions. Doesn't much to instill confidence because the anti-vax crowd will use this as more ammo that the vaccine is dangerous. On that point though, does anyone remember any allergic reactions from the clinical trials being reported?

The study protocols were (and are) quite secretive, but they did admit to be being HIGHLY selective about (so-called) study participants so that they didn't have to deal with uncomfortable problems.  It is commonly known and understood that everything possible was done to game things so that there would be 'success' in the trials.  For efficacy, all they had to do was to show people having fewer symptoms from 'covid-19'.  The (not a) vaccine doesn't even have to keep people from getting infected and passing the infection along which shows what a bald-face lie it was that the (not a) vaccine will 'get society back to normal.'

Again, so-called 'covid-19' only exists to drive the program of turning humans into Genetically Modified Organisms (and the modifications are corporate secrets.)  Nothing could be more obvious frankly speaking.

What is really great is that when they tried to do a coronavirus vaccine a decade ago it was terminated when the animal study showed excessive mortality upon challenge from the wild type.  They got around that problem this time.  How?  By neglecting animal studies of course.

This may be a good time to mention a theory which was going around all the way back in January when some people in Wuhan were reported to be dropping dead in the streets.  The thought was that maybe there had been a coronavirus vaccine trial in some areas and that some people were realizing this 'antibody-dependent enhancement' phenomenon.  I tend now to figure it was just part of the psy-op though.  Hard to know.

[chriswcs]

Short answer: yes.

If you don't trust vaccines, you might as well not trust science. If we didn't get vaccines, most of us would already have died of things that we've cured. Being anti-vaccine is one of the stupidest things you can be.

[coolcoinz]

Short answer: yes.

If you don't trust vaccines, you might as well not trust science. If we didn't get vaccines, most of us would already have died of things that we've cured. Being anti-vaccine is one of the stupidest things you can be.

Most of us trust vaccines, the problem is with covid19 vaccine. It was rushed to mass use and not tested enough and even companies who made it admit it in the information leaflets attached to their product. For instance, in the one released by Pfizer, they write that they don't take responsibility for any side effects that may occur and that they don't know how long and if the product will be able to protect you from the virus. They also say that the vaccine is supposed to strengthen your immune system but there's no certainty that it will. Also, people who want to have children in the near future should not use their product. Isn't this enough to at least make you suspicious?

[azisjz4]

To be honest, I'm fed up with the news about Covid. Because of Covid, I was expelled from work because the company was unable to pay back employees. I don't really believe in the vaccines that will be given, because the vaccines are used as a source of business for the authorities. For example, in my country, every time we want to travel outside the city, we must include a Covid-free certificate (Covid Swab test) which costs + - $ 15- $ 20 and is only valid for a few days. Then if we want to travel again, we must go back to do the rapid test.
For the vaccine itself, it is not free and people are obliged to vaccinate and have to pay back. to be honest, I don't really believe in the Covid vaccine

[tvbcof]

To be honest, I'm fed up with the news about Covid. Because of Covid, I was expelled from work because the company was unable to pay back employees. I don't really believe in the vaccines that will be given, because the vaccines are used as a source of business for the authorities. For example, in my country, every time we want to travel outside the city, we must include a Covid-free certificate (Covid Swab test) which costs + - $ 15- $ 20 and is only valid for a few days. Then if we want to travel again, we must go back to do the rapid test.
For the vaccine itself, it is not free and people are obliged to vaccinate and have to pay back. to be honest, I don't really believe in the Covid vaccine

Almost seems like 'they' (or someone above 'them') is TRYING to get a revolution going.  Most revolutions result in expropriation of property from the current title holders...and, contrary to standard propaganda, it pretty much never goes into the hands of 'the people' in any sort of a real meaningful way.

Anyway, in some societies most of the visible political structure is operated by the 'landed' minority.  I wonder when said minority will catch on that abusing their citizenry at the behest of their global overloads and funder of the country (e.g., the IMF, World Bank, etc) will not probably end up well for them?  If they think they will be whisked away to live it up with the real power people in New Zealand they are, almost without exception, in for a rude awakening.

[Gyfts]

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From my understanding the participants can’t have their information disclosed without consent from the individuals themselves. What was surprising is that there wasn’t any reports of allergic reactions in the trials. I tried to look up the exact profiles of the groups of people they got to experiment with and it’s a bit tough to get that information. But in my inquiry search nowhere did I find anything about allergic reactions which is why it’s so weird to see them now.

I’m not actually anti-VAX but I think that if you are someone young and healthy, getting this vaccine is probably useless. If you have any underlying conditions like obesity and diabetes or something similar then getting the vaccine is in your best interest because you have a greater chance of dying from COVID-19 opposed to some adverse reaction from the vaccine.

[mindrust]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/boston-doctor-has-allergic-reaction-to-modernas-covid-vaccine-uses-own-epipen/2266240/

Another allergic reaction. It's isolated of course but it's also something to take into consideration if you have a history of such reactions. Doesn't much to instill confidence because the anti-vax crowd will use this as more ammo that the vaccine is dangerous. On that point though, does anyone remember any allergic reactions from the clinical trials being reported?

I am not really worried about the allergic reactions. You shouldn't really focus on them. What really matters is the long term effects of the vaccine on human body and these will only be known when enough people take the vaccine after many years.

We can't know it now because we don't have any data. We don't have the data because we cant time travel.

[BADecker]

Fuaci Ignores Herd Immunity Principles and Demands 90% Vaccine Compliance Rate - https://thecommonsenseshow.com/agenda-21-conspiracy-economics/fuaci-ignores-herd-immunity-principles-and-demands-90-vaccine-compliance-rate.

[franky1]

Fuaci Ignores Herd Immunity Principles and Demands 90% Vaccine Compliance Rate -

existing common flus still cause deaths even at what you value as a 60% herd immunity acceptance. which just shows even 60% is not good enough.
yes for months you have been mentioning the death rates due to common flu's so no point back tracking now.

covid is more dangerous and severe and causes more deaths. so needs even high threshold than 60%
remember.. you have already copied and pasted many times that there are X number of people dying from common flu's. so save yourself some time. dont flip flop to debunk yourself

[Twinkledoe]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/boston-doctor-has-allergic-reaction-to-modernas-covid-vaccine-uses-own-epipen/2266240/

Another allergic reaction. It's isolated of course but it's also something to take into consideration if you have a history of such reactions. Doesn't much to instill confidence because the anti-vax crowd will use this as more ammo that the vaccine is dangerous. On that point though, does anyone remember any allergic reactions from the clinical trials being reported?

I am not really worried about the allergic reactions. You shouldn't really focus on them. What really matters is the long term effects of the vaccine on human body and these will only be known when enough people take the vaccine after many years.

We can't now it know because we don't have any data. We don't have the data because we cant time travel.

Expect that not all people are pro-vaccine and also, the body reactions vary from one person to another. We can't expect that there's only one outcome out of this. It would really take years before they can perfect this vaccine. That is the reason why WHO has certain acceptable effectiveness, even below 80%. If you are worried about the after effect of the vaccine, maybe, don't get the shot this early. Maybe wait for months or even a year before getting one. But you need to take care of yourself and follow strictly health protocols to avoid possible infection.

[virasog]

Fuaci Ignores Herd Immunity Principles and Demands 90% Vaccine Compliance Rate -

existing common flus still cause deaths even at what you value as a 60% herd immunity acceptance. which just shows even 60% is not good enough.
yes for months you have been mentioning the death rates due to common flu's so no point back tracking now.

covid is more dangerous and severe and causes more deaths. so needs even high threshold than 60%
remember.. you have already copied and pasted many times that there are X number of people dying from common flu's. so save yourself some time. dont flip flop to debunk yourself

Even after the vaccine people will still die because of covid-19. Vaccine will cure many people but it will not be like no one will die from covid-19. Also since this will be a new vaccine, it may have some side effects on different people. Developing immunity with natural vitamins and foods is more important for everyone.

[Crptomagma]

I have heard much about the Covid19 vaccine but still haven’t heard of any patient that fully recovered from the vaccine. I wouldn’t say I don’t believe in the Covid19 vaccines but like they say seeing is believing and until I see it cure a Covid19 patient, I don’t know what to believe.

[Tash]

Receipt to get sick.

    • Eat only verity of acidic producing food (fish, meat, grains, dairy……)
    • Drink lots of carbonated drinks (cola, fanta, sect, mineral water……)
    • Make sure phone signal is max strength and have house next to high power lines.
    • Wear mask (make sure to obstruct to exhaustion of CO2 as much as possible)
    • Inject as many foreign substances as possible (after the heroin shot go to nearest vaccine center and get any of the 30 or so available vaccines)
    • Avoid the sun

I personal guaranty it will work


Alternatively trying to be as healthy as possible

    • Eating correct balanced diet with 70% alkaline and 30% acid producing food (some food is acid in nature like lemon, pineapple, tomato, all naturally fermented food, vinegar…..) but become alkali when digested
    • Drinking fresh pressed fruit juice, water or wine (obvious in moderation) beer, coffee tea is neutral the only bad bit is the added milk, sugar.
    • Find residence with weak phone signal, no AC and have as much direct currency as desired (DC)
    • Make sure all CO2 is disposed off, plants will thank you for it. Get 100% fresh air.
    • Avoid damaging your skin your outer protective layer.
    • Get a healthy dose of sunlight. (“light is life”)