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December 27, 2020, 08:32:58 AM
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I have heard much about the Covid19 vaccine but still haven’t heard of any patient that fully recovered from the vaccine. I wouldn’t say I don’t believe in the Covid19 vaccines but like they say seeing is believing and until I see it cure a Covid19 patient, I don’t know what to believe.

I don't think the vaccine is given to people who are in critical condition, if you already are infected and they give you the vaccine it will probably make it worse for you. As far as I understood it, the idea was to give the vaccine to all the people who weren't infected yet and try to get them immune to the virus. So they will never get infected.
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December 27, 2020, 08:44:57 AM
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I have heard much about the Covid19 vaccine but still haven’t heard of any patient that fully recovered from the vaccine. I wouldn’t say I don’t believe in the Covid19 vaccines but like they say seeing is believing and until I see it cure a Covid19 patient, I don’t know what to believe.

I don't think the vaccine is given to people who are in critical condition, if you already are infected and they give you the vaccine it will probably make it worse for you. As far as I understood it, the idea was to give the vaccine to all the people who weren't infected yet and try to get them immune to the virus. So they will never get infected.

That's not what the so-called 'covid-19 vaccines' do.  They were not tested for doing this, it are not claimed to do this, and they don't do this.

Just like Saddam Hussein and his ties to the bin Laden boogeyman, the powers that be are happy to have people assume and believe it, but they never actually said it and had carefully acknowledged facts to the contrary for the tiny minority of people who know how to read.

The mainstream media is free to just tell people blatant lies, and encouraged by certain powers to do just that, but certain powers are fairly careful to give themselves an out.  It could be simply legal, but it also could have a spiritual element.

Edit:  I remember a decade or two ago when Fox News argued in court that they are 'entertainment' and thus are not compelled to tell the truth.  They won as I recall.  That would have set legal precedent and explains why they can assert that a meningococcal vaccination used it a control group is a 'saline placebo' in their 'news' articles.


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December 27, 2020, 11:16:38 AM
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I truly don't trust the COVID-19 vaccine because it is not 100%  tested as a cure and prevention for the virus, so it is hard to tell if it will help you or will make everything worse. I will only take the vaccine if it is proven that it can lessen the virus cases worldwide. There is  also a new COVID strain that was discovered in other countries, so can this vaccine help us from this new COVID strain?

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December 27, 2020, 12:11:08 PM
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I truly don't trust the COVID-19 vaccine because it is not 100%  tested as a cure and prevention for the virus, so it is hard to tell if it will help you or will make everything worse. I will only take the vaccine if it is proven that it can lessen the virus cases worldwide. There is  also a new COVID strain that was discovered in other countries, so can this vaccine help us from this new COVID strain?

No antiviral vaccine can ever be 100% effective. The vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna and the Gamaleya Research Institute have 90% to 95% efficiency, and that is the maximum you could expect. And regarding the new strain, the mutation doesn't make the virus resistant to the vaccine. It just makes the virus more contagious. The vaccines should be having the same rate of efficiency against the new strain. 
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December 27, 2020, 02:04:36 PM
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I truly don't trust the COVID-19 vaccine because it is not 100%  tested as a cure and prevention for the virus, so it is hard to tell if it will help you or will make everything worse. I will only take the vaccine if it is proven that it can lessen the virus cases worldwide. There is  also a new COVID strain that was discovered in other countries, so can this vaccine help us from this new COVID strain?

No antiviral vaccine can ever be 100% effective. The vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna and the Gamaleya Research Institute have 90% to 95% efficiency, and that is the maximum you could expect. And regarding the new strain, the mutation doesn't make the virus resistant to the vaccine. It just makes the virus more contagious. The vaccines should be having the same rate of efficiency against the new strain. 

Sure they are, slapped together in some weeks instead of the usual years. The flu vaccine after decades only 40% effective and still no vaccine for cancer and whole lot of other ills.
Nothing but a money making scam where ill gates expects 20 times return for every dollar invested. No money to be made with computer viruses this days.

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December 27, 2020, 02:18:30 PM
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still no vaccine for cancer

I don't think you can ever cure cancer with vaccines. Do you realize what you are saying? Do you even know what a vaccine is?

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December 27, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
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still no vaccine for cancer

I don't think you can ever cure cancer with vaccines. Do you realize what you are saying? Do you even know what a vaccine is?
Yes vaccine is a scam, money grap.
If someone is of the opinion he was born with a defect and some guy in in white coat will correct it by damaging the other protective layer and inject foreign dna and other unhealthy material.
Still no vaccine for aids after 50 years

You most likely will not survive if injected with all available Vaccines in the US and certainly not healthier to fight the next disease waiting around the corner.

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AdenovirusA live, oral vaccine against adenovirus types 4 and 7 is approved  for U.S. military personnel only.
Anthrax
AVA(BioThrax)
Cholera
Vaxchora
Diphtheria
DTaP(Daptacel, Infanrix)
Td(Tenivac, generic)
DT(-generic-)
Tdap(Adacel, Boostrix)
DTaP-IPV(Kinrix, Quadracel)
DTaP-HepB-IPV(Pediarix)
DTaP-IPV/Hib(Pentacel)
Hepatitis A
HepA(Havrix, Vaqta)
HepA-HepB(Twinrix)
Hepatitis B
HepB(Engerix-B, Recombivax HB, Heplisav-B)
DTaP-HepB-IPV(Pediarix)
HepA-HepB(Twinrix)
Haemophilus influenzae type b(Hib)
Hib(ActHIB, PedvaxHIB, Hiberix)
DTaP-IPV/Hib(Pentacel)
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
HPV9(Gardasil 9) 9vHPV
Seasonal Influenza (Flu) only
IIV*(Afluria, Fluad, Flublok, Flucelvax, FluLaval, Fluarix, Fluvirin, Fluzone, Fluzone High-Dose, Fluzone Intradermal)
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MMR(M-M-R II)
MMRV(ProQuad)
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Mumps
MMR(M-M-R II)
MMRV(ProQuad)
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Tdap(Adacel, Boostrix)
DTaP-IPV(Kinrix, Quadracel)
DTaP-HepB-IPV(Pediarix)
DTaP-IPV/Hib(Pentacel)
Pneumococcal
PCV13(Prevnar13)
PPSV23(Pneumovax 23)
Polio
Polio(Ipol)
DTaP-IPV(Kinrix, Quadracel)
DTaP-HepB-IPV(Pediarix)
DTaP-IPV/Hib(Pentacel)
Rabies
Rabies(Imovax Rabies, RabAvert)
Rotavirus
RV1(Rotarix)
RV5(RotaTeq)
Rubella
MMR(M-M-R II)
MMRV(ProQuad)
Shingles
ZVL(Zostavax)
RZV(Shingrix)
Smallpox
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DTaP(Daptacel, Infanrix)
Td(Tenivac, generic)
DT(-generic-)
Tdap(Adacel, Boostrix)
DTaP-IPV(Kinrix, Quadracel)
DTaP-HepB-IPV(Pediarix)
DTaP-IPV/Hib(Pentacel)
TuberculosisMany foreign-born persons have been BCG-vaccinated
Typhoid Fever
TyphoidOral (Vivotif)
TyphoidPolysaccharide (Typhim Vi)
Varicella
VAR(Varivax)
MMRV(ProQuad):
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YF(YF-Vax)
Add covid now.
After how many injections is someone classified as a addict?

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December 27, 2020, 03:30:38 PM
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still no vaccine for cancer

I don't think you can ever cure cancer with vaccines. Do you realize what you are saying? Do you even know what a vaccine is?
Yes vaccine is a scam, money grap.
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Add covid now.
After how many injections is someone classified as a addict?

That wasn't my question. Hepatitis is a virus which may or may not bring you cancer. You can't prevent cancer directly with a vaccine.

I don't think all vaccines are scams. I just don't trust the covid vaccines, yet.

Congratz for your seat in the flat earthers club btw.

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The flu vaccine after decades only 40% effective and still no vaccine for cancer and whole lot of other ills.
Still no vaccine for aids after 50 years
I don't know whether to laugh or to despair at comments like this.

You clearly have no idea what a vaccine is or how different virus work. Like, at all. Yet you feel qualified to hand out advice about how VaCcInEs CaUsE aUtIsM on the internet. It's funny because you and all the other anti-vaxxers in this thread don't even realize how stupid the things you are saying are. It would be like if you were arguing with a cardiac surgeon because you think the heart's only function is to make us feel emotions. Obviously nobody does that because it would be utterly moronic and you would be laughed off the forum, but for some reason when it comes to vaccines it's a free reign for utter stupidity.

I've had about 90% of the vaccines on that list, I've had a flu vaccine every year for decades, and I've now had the first dose of the Covid vaccine. Can't wait to get more! God, I love vaccines.
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December 27, 2020, 05:08:50 PM
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The flu vaccine after decades only 40% effective and still no vaccine for cancer and whole lot of other ills.
Still no vaccine for aids after 50 years
I don't know whether to laugh or to despair at comments like this.

You clearly have no idea what a vaccine is or how different virus work. Like, at all. Yet you feel qualified to hand out advice about how VaCcInEs CaUsE aUtIsM on the internet. It's funny because you and all the other anti-vaxxers in this thread don't even realize how stupid the things you are saying are. It would be like if you were arguing with a cardiac surgeon because you think the heart's only function is to make us feel emotions. Obviously nobody does that because it would be utterly moronic and you would be laughed off the forum, but for some reason when it comes to vaccines it's a free reign for utter stupidity.

I've had about 90% of the vaccines on that list, I've had a flu vaccine every year for decades, and I've now had the first dose of the Covid vaccine. Can't wait to get more! God, I love vaccines.


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The flu vaccine after decades only 40% effective and still no vaccine for cancer and whole lot of other ills.
Still no vaccine for aids after 50 years
I don't know whether to laugh or to despair at comments like this.

You clearly have no idea what a vaccine is or how different virus work. Like, at all. Yet you feel qualified to hand out advice about how VaCcInEs CaUsE aUtIsM on the internet. It's funny because you and all the other anti-vaxxers in this thread don't even realize how stupid the things you are saying are. It would be like if you were arguing with a cardiac surgeon because you think the heart's only function is to make us feel emotions. Obviously nobody does that because it would be utterly moronic and you would be laughed off the forum, but for some reason when it comes to vaccines it's a free reign for utter stupidity.

I've had about 90% of the vaccines on that list, I've had a flu vaccine every year for decades, and I've now had the first dose of the Covid vaccine. Can't wait to get more! God, I love vaccines.


You gott a vaccine for a virus which does not exist, Oh my..  Can only giggle at jokers like you, how long is the nose?
https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b

You most likely a real doctor to  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1YIyXEDQc

Why even bother buying a fake diploma?  Just jump on a forum and tap out on your keyboard that you are a doctor.  As this guy has demonstrated most idiots will buy it no questions asked.  Maybe it's because the guy copy/pasted some medical sounding stuff, but frankly speaking, I think he hooked the foxpup cycling dolts even before that.

Notice how Oileo calls the mRNA cell re-programers 'vaccines' in spite of the fact that they don't stop the body from either catching the supposed virus or passing it on to others.  He doesn't even know what a vaccine or immunity even is!

I figure that most people who 'believe in' the so-called 'vaccine' here really do think it exists and is something good.  There's one born every minute, Son...  In Oileo's case I think there is a fair chance that he actually does understand the program from a deeper level and is actively leading the sheep to the slaughter.  It's just a gut feeling of mine.


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You gott a vaccine for a virus which does not exist, Oh my..
Thanks for illustrating my point so perfectly.

Here we have a virus which has killed millions, which we have isolated, viewed under electron microscopy, sequenced its genome over 40,000 independent times, developed tests for, investigated treatments for, run studies on, and developed a vaccine for.

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Developing immunity with natural vitamins and foods is more important for everyone.

only if you are highly malnurished for you to be immuno compromised purely due to malnutrition would nutrition help,
many people are immuno compromised due to other factors.

the body is pretty good at breaking down food into essential nutrients. and the amount of nutrients needed is not much.

when overdosing on vitamins and supplements your body does not store them for later. it excretes the excess via your bladder/bowel. in essence you are just making expensive urine.

those compromised immunity due to other things wont repair their immune system via nutrition. EG diabetics have sticky blood which slows and delays the antibodies because of all the sticky blood in its way not letting antibodies get around the body efficiently.
yes less sugar would reduce the stick blood. but excess supplements wont help. they wil just go to waste

some people have bone disease which means their bone marrow is not producing antibodies.
vitamins and supplements wont fix this as the bones just dont use them in the first place

its like fueling a car. but you dont have the car keys. no amount of fuel will make the car drive if you cant turn on the engine
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its like having a car with a hole in the fuel tank. just throwing in more fuel will just make more fuel drain out the hole and not really improve the 'gas mileage' ratio. infact you would waste even more fuel per mile.

repairing the hole using proper methods would help.
also adding more fuel into a working fuel tank wont improve the gas mileage either.
again you would need to fix the engine or the tyres or gearbox to improve the gas mileage.

the only time fueling the tank helps is if the only issue is a empty tank due to not fueling it (EG anorexia)
so thinking nutrition is the only fix needed is very narrow minded. and it seem maybe you got your very narrow minded idea from a group that is sponsored by supplement sales companies

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December 27, 2020, 06:42:27 PM
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Yes vaccine is a scam, money grap.
If someone is of the opinion he was born with a defect and some guy in in white coat will correct it by damaging the other protective layer and inject foreign dna and other unhealthy material. Still waiting for the effect of your "IF"
Still no vaccine for aids after 50 years

You most likely will not survive if injected with all available Vaccines in the US and certainly not healthier to fight the next disease waiting around the corner.


Oh yeah, basement living boi, Military personnel that are deployed in other countries were injected by different kind of vaccines that they don't even know. And the best thing is, WOW, they survived and still living up to this date. They can even walk, run, sleep, eat, and act like a very normal person.

And by that "Not healthier to fight the next disease", vaccines don't reduce your immune system efficacy. instead, they only enhance parts of system to combat specific viruses they are meant to.

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December 27, 2020, 06:49:04 PM
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I would put my trust into it since I'm a health worker and I'm willing to take a vaccine in order to have at least an immunity which is very essential when dealing with COVID+ patients. I would assume it would be free on the likes of me that is why I want to be injected too.



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December 27, 2020, 07:09:19 PM
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I would put my trust into it since I'm a health worker and I'm willing to take a vaccine in order to have at least an immunity which is very essential when dealing with COVID+ patients. I would assume it would be free on the likes of me that is why I want to be injected too.

Why don't you wait until the first wave of suicidal lemmings have jumped so you can get the $1000 check that they'll be bribing people with.




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December 27, 2020, 07:21:49 PM
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I would put my trust into it since I'm a health worker and I'm willing to take a vaccine in order to have at least an immunity which is very essential when dealing with COVID+ patients. I would assume it would be free on the likes of me that is why I want to be injected too.

Why don't you wait until the first wave of suicidal lemmings have jumped so you can get the $1000 check that they'll be bribing people with.




Someone has to be real desperate if he exchanges $1000 for his life.

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December 27, 2020, 07:41:44 PM
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I would put my trust into it since I'm a health worker and I'm willing to take a vaccine in order to have at least an immunity which is very essential when dealing with COVID+ patients. I would assume it would be free on the likes of me that is why I want to be injected too.

Why don't you wait until the first wave of suicidal lemmings have jumped so you can get the $1000 check that they'll be bribing people with.





Why would he wait if he already put his trusts in the vaccine, and since he is a healthworker, he pretty much know what is the content of the vaccine that can put him at risk, how the vaccine works, and the effectivity of the vaccine.

Aside from that, $1000 check?, how to avail fr?

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December 27, 2020, 07:45:20 PM
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I would put my trust into it since I'm a health worker and I'm willing to take a vaccine in order to have at least an immunity which is very essential when dealing with COVID+ patients. I would assume it would be free on the likes of me that is why I want to be injected too.

Why don't you wait until the first wave of suicidal lemmings have jumped so you can get the $1000 check that they'll be bribing people with.




Someone has to be real desperate if he exchanges $1000 for his life.

That's what the lockdowns and financial calamity are all about.  Actually, it seems almost certain that the upcoming 'Universal Basic Income' payments will be tied to getting any vaccines which are called for by the corp/gov system, and almost certainly taking the 'injectable nano-platform' monitoring frameworks being devised by Profusa as well.  (Watch how things switch from 'crazy conspiracy theory' to 'we WANT and NEED that!' skipping right over the phase where they recognize that some of us who were warning about things were dead-on right the whole time.)

If we are super lucky, all they plan to do is control fertility and maintain a certain base level of chronic infection needed to maintain the medical/industrial complex at desired levels of profitability.  That's probably to much to hope for though.  I suspect they will be bumping off old people who are found to have exhausted their savings (while the rest get cancer treatment to shake their pockets out) and dumbing people down even more than they have already.  Judging by how easy the covid-19 hoax went, that would be a lot!


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December 27, 2020, 07:46:56 PM
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Fuaci Ignores Herd Immunity Principles and Demands 90% Vaccine Compliance Rate -

existing common flus still cause deaths even at what you value as a 60% herd immunity acceptance. which just shows even 60% is not good enough.
yes for months you have been mentioning the death rates due to common flu's so no point back tracking now.

covid is more dangerous and severe and causes more deaths. so needs even high threshold than 60%
remember.. you have already copied and pasted many times that there are X number of people dying from common flu's. so save yourself some time. dont flip flop to debunk yourself

Herd Immunity is a fun thing to talk about. But nobody has proof that it exists. Why not? Because nobody has done studies on good placebo effect, and wellness jumping from one person to another just like a virus supposedly does.

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