Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[BADecker]

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In a truly shocking turn of events, BADecker has discovered that high risk elderly people with pre-existing conditions who are most likely to die from COVID are also pretty likely to die from other things too!

The 75 year old Israeli man had a heart attack, on a background of coronary heart disease and multiple previous heart attacks. No link with the vaccine was found admitted.

The Swiss patient was 91 and died from her pre-existing conditions. No link with the vaccine was found admitted.

This is just as stupid as tvbcof thinking that someone developing Bell's Palsy, which affects 5 in 10,000 people every year, MUST have been caused by the vaccine.

We are going to vaccinate over a billion people this year. If you are going to post a story about every vaccinated person who then develops any medical condition, then you are even more dense than I thought.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Corrected that for you ^^.     

Seems that we are finding out that many diseases that never used to exist a century ago (at least not in the numbers as they do today) were cause by the vaccines over the years.

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[o_e_l_e_o]

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Right, because you, with no medical knowledge and only having read a fourth hand news story, are in a better position to ascertain the cause of death than the pathologists doing the post mortem.

[BADecker]

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Right, because you, with no medical knowledge and only having read a fourth hand news story, are in a better position to ascertain the cause of death than the pathologists doing the post mortem.

Lol

And you, with tons of medical knowledge, would rather support the fake Covid pandemic. I wonder who is worse, you or me?

Say, have you found the Covid isolation report yet? Show us the link, please. And add a few words from the actual isolation process recorded in the report. Dr. Andrew Kaufman would like to see it, and so would I.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I've linked you to 40,000 independent isolations and sequencing of its complete genome twice now. If you are too dense to click on a link, then there isn't much I can do.

Here you are for the third time: https://www.viprbrc.org/brc/vipr_genome_search.spg?method=SubmitForm&decorator=corona&searchId=44742&runFrom=persistent

[BADecker]

I've linked you to 40,000 independent isolations and sequencing of its complete genome twice now. If you are too dense to click on a link, then there isn't much I can do.

Here you are for the third time: https://www.viprbrc.org/brc/vipr_genome_search.spg?method=SubmitForm&decorator=corona&searchId=44742&runFrom=persistent

Again, you forgot to quote a few words of the isolation process actually being done. Anybody can link to all kinds of medical sites. Too bad you can't find the Covid isolation report. If you could, you wouldn't be afraid to quote it.

However, this is a forum, not a medical examining board. So you really don't need any excuse.

[tvbcof]

The question can be is, why the oxford vaccine can be stored in a not so cold temperature, without destroying the rna in the first place? Why is it cheaper than the rest, when the same concept is being used?

Oxford (Astrazeneca) puts DNA into the cell nucleus then gets the cell itself to pump out m-RNA.  In this manner they don't have to pump so much RNA into the victim.

Medicine is all about reading what the medical/industrial complex approves then regurgitating it for exams and for writing prescriptions.  There is no better teacher for basic entry level medical stuff than this guy, and here is his re-hash of Moderna, Pfizer, and Oxford respectively.  I'm sure it's relatively accurate as far as it goes, and it is interesting and worth the watch.  At least you won't make basic errors as you have above:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Idb_lCU4o

I got a lot more out of a presentation from the lead scientist from Oxford.  Among the take-aways:

 - luciferin, luciferin, luciferin (why they wanted it in there wasn't covered.  Presumably the audience already knew.)

 - The human body has mechanisms to detect cells who start pumping out unusual shit like virus parts and won't quit.  This causes problems for the technique.  Solution?  Easy.  Use MERS(!) fragments and other techniques to make the body not do this.  Can you say 'cancer epidemic dead ahead' anyone?

 - A logical question was asked by the audience:  'How long does the infected cell keep pumping out virus parts?'  Answer:  'We have no idea'.

Dunno if it is still on Jutube or not, but it's almost completely impossible to find anything it the censorship ridden waste dump any more.  Got it in my long-term archives, but that doesn't do much good here.

[tvbcof]

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This is just as stupid as tvbcof thinking that someone developing Bell's Palsy, which affects 5 in 10,000 people every year, MUST have been caused by the vaccine.
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Resident fake-doctor Oileo think that people here are to stupid to realize that if a condition occurs at a rate of {n}/year than the expected number of occurrences in a month would be {n}/12.

The genetically re-programmed group had 5 cases of Bell's Palsy and the non-reprogrammed group of a similar size had zero.  Hell, even the corp/gov admitted there is likely a problem here and to keep eye's open for it.  At least early on before the propaganda team suggested to try the 'just chance' lie because the sheeple are mostly stupid enough to buy it if someone in a lab coat says it on Dr. Phil.

[Tash]

Alarming number of US health care workers are refusing COVID-19 vaccine
https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/alarming-number-of-us-health-care-workers-are-refusing-covid-19-vaccine/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow

[Bluto]

The vaccine effectively becomes uselles if exposed to a temperature above -70 degrees and even though it was rushed, it was still tested following most of the requirements needed to determine whether it is safe or not. Furthermore it is in the manufacturers' best interest for it to work so I think its safe. But i dont see a reason why a healthy young person would ever feel the need to recieve it. It is good to take it as a last resort for old people with health issues but still, young people have nothing to fear given the circumstances, except if they too have other health issues.

[tvbcof]

For those following the Tiffany Dover ('nurse 33') saga, caution is advised:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyGlHYTsTk

[Tash]

It simply is never a good idea to damage the outer prodective layer to "shoot-up"
Anyway something is sus with all this young girls
https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/2021/01/02/hamilton-psw-suffers-rare-but-severe-reaction-to-covid-19-vaccine.html

CDC official report shows 3% of registrants who received first dose were "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional"

[Natsuu]

The vaccine effectively becomes uselles if exposed to a temperature above -70 degrees and even though it was rushed, it was still tested following most of the requirements needed to determine whether it is safe or not. Furthermore it is in the manufacturers' best interest for it to work so I think its safe. But i dont see a reason why a healthy young person would ever feel the need to recieve it. It is good to take it as a last resort for old people with health issues but still, young people have nothing to fear given the circumstances, except if they too have other health issues.

At the latest study in regards to the new strain. The graph indicates that 10-19 yrs old have the most cases, second is the 40-49.

And guess what, there are low cases for 60 and above age gap.

Ergo, Age is not significant to the possibility of a person getting infected by the virus.

https://virological.org/t/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-lineage-b-1-1-7-in-england-insights-from-linking-epidemiological-and-genetic-data/576

[franky1]

For those following the Tiffany Dover ('nurse 33') saga, caution is advised:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyGlHYTsTk

what you got to realise is the first groups of people getting the vaccine are majority people with pre-existing conditions. like heart issues. and tiffany fainted due to all the stress of being on stage after having a vaccine.

it was a stress induced faint.
she already had mentioned her heart issues. and so case closed. no more info needed.
the reason she telling people to stop harrassing her and family is because she has already explained the cause and so people need to just move on with their lives
her avoiding re-explaining to every 'karen' 'schitzo' 'conspiracy nut'  is because them people wont listen even if being told 50 times. so they need to just move on
her disapearing is not a new conspiracy mystery that requires more investigating. its that she is getting on with her normal life and so should the nutters

[franky1]

It simply is never a good idea to damage the outer prodective layer to "shoot-up"
Anyway something is sus with all this young girls
https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/2021/01/02/hamilton-psw-suffers-rare-but-severe-reaction-to-covid-19-vaccine.html

CDC official report shows 3% of registrants who received first dose were "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional"

she had an allergy issue. and still went through with the vaccine..
seems simple to me. should have looked at the allergy advice and not proceeded with the vaccine if she didnt want risks.

heck even she is telling people if they have allergy issues. to be aware.
funny thing is the vaccine companies and the hospitals are already aware of it.

but the % of people that have mild or even severe reactions to the vaccine is far less than those that have mild/severe reactions to the virus

but yes the message is very simply. if you have allergies take precautions

[tvbcof]

For those following the Tiffany Dover ('nurse 33') saga, caution is advised:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyGlHYTsTk

what you got to realise is the first groups of people getting the vaccine are majority people with pre-existing conditions. like heart issues. and tiffany fainted due to all the stress of being on stage after having a vaccine.

it was a stress induced faint.
she already had mentioned her heart issues. and so case closed. no more info needed.
the reason she telling people to stop harrassing her and family is because she has already explained the cause and so people need to just move on with their lives
her avoiding re-explaining to every 'karen' 'schitzo' 'conspiracy nut'  is because them people wont listen even if being told 50 times. so they need to just move on
her disapearing is not a new conspiracy mystery that requires more investigating. its that she is getting on with her normal life and so should the nutters

The 'narrative' is that she simply suffered from a vagal response.  If that is the case than with 1/2 and hour she should be right back to her perfectly normal self and it should not impact work, life, her budding career as a propagandist for vaccines, etc, etc.  Something is rotten in Denmark here.  Looks suspiciously like a Cass Sunstein type operation.

Don't get rope-a-doped on things like this my friends.  There will be a lot of engineered social media operations.  Ultimately they want to get rid of free speech altogether so they are going to be staging phony 'social media' events where they act through 'events' with players playing both the 'victim' card and the 'harasser' card to try to get support for further clamping down on the 1st amendment.

[BADecker]

Now we find that the vaccines don't really do anything except make people sick... or kill them.

Watch the video at the site.


Say what? WHO says there is “no evidence” that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent spread of disease… so what good are they?

The World Health Organization was busted earlier this year carrying water for the Chinese government in terms of helping Beijing cover up its responsibility for COVID-19 and the resulting global pandemic the virus caused.

In fact, the cover-up was so egregious that President Donald Trump took the extraordinary step of cutting off the WHO from American tax dollars.

But now it appears as though the global health agency is attempting to atone for its past mistakes involving Beijing’s coronavirus cover-up with some damning new information regarding the highly controversial COVID-19 vaccines — namely, that they don’t do anything to stop the spread of the disease.

During a virtual press conference earlier this week, WHO chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan was specific: “I don’t believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it’s going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on.”

Mind you, that is the entire purpose behind a vaccine in the first place — to not only inoculate people, but to prevent the spread of the disease the vaccine is meant to target.

So if they don’t actually do what they’re supposed to do, why are governments, including ours, spending billions of dollars to manufacture and distribute them?

[Natsuu]

Now we find that the vaccines don't really do anything except make people sick... or kill them.

Watch the video at the site.


Say what? WHO says there is “no evidence” that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent spread of disease… so what good are they?

The World Health Organization was busted earlier this year carrying water for the Chinese government in terms of helping Beijing cover up its responsibility for COVID-19 and the resulting global pandemic the virus caused.

In fact, the cover-up was so egregious that President Donald Trump took the extraordinary step of cutting off the WHO from American tax dollars.

But now it appears as though the global health agency is attempting to atone for its past mistakes involving Beijing’s coronavirus cover-up with some damning new information regarding the highly controversial COVID-19 vaccines — namely, that they don’t do anything to stop the spread of the disease.

During a virtual press conference earlier this week, WHO chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan was specific: “I don’t believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it’s going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on.”

Mind you, that is the entire purpose behind a vaccine in the first place — to not only inoculate people, but to prevent the spread of the disease the vaccine is meant to target.

So if they don’t actually do what they’re supposed to do, why are governments, including ours, spending billions of dollars to manufacture and distribute them?

That's why there is an efficacy rate, it is not entirely impossible for anyone who taken the vaccine to be 100% immune, they still have the chances of getting the virus thus the efficacy rate of 91%, 95%, etc.

In addition, Dr. Swaminathan was taking a stand about doing preventive measures even though someone is already vaccinated.

4) Most vaccines reduce the likelihood of both disease and infection but do a better job at preventing disease. 
5) Often people think that if they're vaccinated they won't get sick and they can’t infect other people, but this isn't always the case.
7) Initial studies show that new COVID vaccines are very good at preventing disease, including severe disease. This means if you're vaccinated, your chances of getting COVID disease are much lower than if you are not. But like all vaccines they are not a 100% guarantee.

Misinterpreting the statement just like that is somehow stupid in many ways  

[BADecker]

Now we find that the vaccines don't really do anything except make people sick... or kill them.

Watch the video at the site.


Say what? WHO says there is “no evidence” that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent spread of disease… so what good are they?

The World Health Organization was busted earlier this year carrying water for the Chinese government in terms of helping Beijing cover up its responsibility for COVID-19 and the resulting global pandemic the virus caused.

In fact, the cover-up was so egregious that President Donald Trump took the extraordinary step of cutting off the WHO from American tax dollars.

But now it appears as though the global health agency is attempting to atone for its past mistakes involving Beijing’s coronavirus cover-up with some damning new information regarding the highly controversial COVID-19 vaccines — namely, that they don’t do anything to stop the spread of the disease.

During a virtual press conference earlier this week, WHO chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan was specific: “I don’t believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it’s going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on.”

Mind you, that is the entire purpose behind a vaccine in the first place — to not only inoculate people, but to prevent the spread of the disease the vaccine is meant to target.

So if they don’t actually do what they’re supposed to do, why are governments, including ours, spending billions of dollars to manufacture and distribute them?

That's why there is an efficacy rate, it is not entirely impossible for anyone who taken the vaccine to be 100% immune, they still have the chances of getting the virus thus the efficacy rate of 91%, 95%, etc.

In addition, Dr. Swaminathan was taking a stand about doing preventive measures even though someone is already vaccinated.

4) Most vaccines reduce the likelihood of both disease and infection but do a better job at preventing disease. 
5) Often people think that if they're vaccinated they won't get sick and they can’t infect other people, but this isn't always the case.
7) Initial studies show that new COVID vaccines are very good at preventing disease, including severe disease. This means if you're vaccinated, your chances of getting COVID disease are much lower than if you are not. But like all vaccines they are not a 100% guarantee.

Misinterpreting the statement just like that is somehow stupid in many ways  

Such trickery. The part you are covering up is that it isn't the vaccine doing something. People can be all kinds of percent immune or infecting on their own without the vaccines. That's all the WHO is saying. They are saying that they haven't found that the vaccine does anything.

[Tash]

The new normal
https://www.laprensalatina.com/mexican-doctor-in-intensive-care-after-getting-covid-19-vaccine/
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/01/04/health-worker-dies-after-taking-pfizer-vaccine-leaks-show-pfizer-infiltrated-by-agents-of-chinese-government/

[Natsuu]

Now we find that the vaccines don't really do anything except make people sick... or kill them.

Watch the video at the site.


Say what? WHO says there is “no evidence” that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent spread of disease… so what good are they?

The World Health Organization was busted earlier this year carrying water for the Chinese government in terms of helping Beijing cover up its responsibility for COVID-19 and the resulting global pandemic the virus caused.

In fact, the cover-up was so egregious that President Donald Trump took the extraordinary step of cutting off the WHO from American tax dollars.

But now it appears as though the global health agency is attempting to atone for its past mistakes involving Beijing’s coronavirus cover-up with some damning new information regarding the highly controversial COVID-19 vaccines — namely, that they don’t do anything to stop the spread of the disease.

During a virtual press conference earlier this week, WHO chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan was specific: “I don’t believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it’s going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on.”

Mind you, that is the entire purpose behind a vaccine in the first place — to not only inoculate people, but to prevent the spread of the disease the vaccine is meant to target.

So if they don’t actually do what they’re supposed to do, why are governments, including ours, spending billions of dollars to manufacture and distribute them?

That's why there is an efficacy rate, it is not entirely impossible for anyone who taken the vaccine to be 100% immune, they still have the chances of getting the virus thus the efficacy rate of 91%, 95%, etc.

In addition, Dr. Swaminathan was taking a stand about doing preventive measures even though someone is already vaccinated.

4) Most vaccines reduce the likelihood of both disease and infection but do a better job at preventing disease. 
5) Often people think that if they're vaccinated they won't get sick and they can’t infect other people, but this isn't always the case.
7) Initial studies show that new COVID vaccines are very good at preventing disease, including severe disease. This means if you're vaccinated, your chances of getting COVID disease are much lower than if you are not. But like all vaccines they are not a 100% guarantee.

Misinterpreting the statement just like that is somehow stupid in many ways  

Such trickery. The part you are covering up is that it isn't the vaccine doing something. People can be all kinds of percent immune or infecting on their own without the vaccines. That's all the WHO is saying. They are saying that they haven't found that the vaccine does anything.

Why would I cover something up, if it doesn't give me benefits in the first place. Stating factual interpretation is all I am doing, and debunking that statement of yours which is all misinterpretation.

Studies already shows the results of the vaccine, and the only thing that they said is all about the efficacy, and clarifications about how you should protect yourself even after you take the vaccine.

The voices in your head seems to speak louder than before, be careful