2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets!

[alani123]

Interesting tidbit about the vice presidential debate. Polls came out about performance of each VP pick and...



Well the good news for the Trump campaign are that Vance didn't do as bad as Trump in comparison. Nearing a tie is good when your running mate had lost by a mile. But still it was unimpressive.

Nothing worthy of applause, nothing new or exciting was said by either candidate.
The worst for me:
Vance outright denying climate change. And while we're on the subject on climate change, how hypocritical of the Democrats to say they're the best for dealing with climate change while they are also responsible for increasing the US's oil and gas production to record levels.

The worse of all for me was Walz and Vance both reiterating that the Harris administration isn't going to give two Fs about pushing Israel to accept a ceasefire. So neither party gives a frick about causing a genocide it seems.

Also Vance was asked to demonstrate how they would act to protect people with pre-existing conditions, especially since RFK had made this a big point of his campaign before joining Trump, this is quite important. Vance essentially said they won't cancel existing regulation? I mean wow, how generous, after Trump wanted to cancel Obamacare...

[viljy]

Interestingly, in history I have found only one president who became president twice, but not for a second term (not in a row). This is very rare. It was Grover Cleveland. Will Trump be able to repeat such a rare event? It is very doubtful, because on the opposite side the candidate is younger, and the main thing is that she is a woman. There has not been a female president yet. That's a big trump card. People love something new, something that happens for the first time. And who of them is saying and promising what now - it's all empty. Promising is one thing, but keeping a promise is another. In reality, people choose someone they like, not someone who talks a lot.

[Yaunfitda]

Interestingly, in history I have found only one president who became president twice, but not for a second term (not in a row). This is very rare. It was Grover Cleveland. Will Trump be able to repeat such a rare event? It is very doubtful, because on the opposite side the candidate is younger, and the main thing is that she is a woman. There has not been a female president yet. That's a big trump card. People love something new, something that happens for the first time. And who of them is saying and promising what now - it's all empty. Promising is one thing, but keeping a promise is another. In reality, people choose someone they like, not someone who talks a lot.

You should also know that Kamala Harris will also make history as the first Female President of the United States. So both of them are gunning for history, as everything is on the line. And so far looking at the Stake line, it seems that Trump is ahead? I thought that there is already a swing bet on Kamala Harris as this is what the media portrays (although we all know that this media's have their own intentions as to who they want to report as the leader). So far it's Trump 1.95 and Harris at 2.00. So probably this could also be one of the closest Presidential election that we might see. And it's going to be interesting as well for non-US members here to see who is going to win, as Bitcoin or crypto in general is only on the center.

[criptoevangelista]

Interestingly, in history I have found only one president who became president twice, but not for a second term (not in a row). This is very rare. It was Grover Cleveland. Will Trump be able to repeat such a rare event? It is very doubtful, because on the opposite side the candidate is younger, and the main thing is that she is a woman. There has not been a female president yet. That's a big trump card. People love something new, something that happens for the first time. And who of them is saying and promising what now - it's all empty. Promising is one thing, but keeping a promise is another. In reality, people choose someone they like, not someone who talks a lot.

You should also know that Kamala Harris will also make history as the first Female President of the United States. So both of them are gunning for history, as everything is on the line. And so far looking at the Stake line, it seems that Trump is ahead? I thought that there is already a swing bet on Kamala Harris as this is what the media portrays (although we all know that this media's have their own intentions as to who they want to report as the leader). So far it's Trump 1.95 and Harris at 2.00. So probably this could also be one of the closest Presidential election that we might see. And it's going to be interesting as well for non-US members here to see who is going to win, as Bitcoin or crypto in general is only on the center.

It really is quite surprising to me that Kamala Harris is doing so well in the polls (according to the media), but I can't really believe these polls, especially now that the biggest newspapers in the US have decided to support the current vice president. But since it's an election, absolutely anything can happen, I'm still betting on Donald Trump, the polls will speak for themselves, I hope to make some money from this lol

[alani123]

Trump posted this ad today on Twitter and I feel it's a very good attack ad against Harris. He attacks her on the very points he's strong on, which is bringing peace through foreign policy and not by force, which he managed to achieve in several regions.

Funnily though, he turns the Democrat peddled Russia conspiracy that wants Trump to be colluding with Russia right on its head and says that Kamala is worse. Quite funny. Will people eat it up though? From what I understand people are quite willing to believe trump on foreign policy issues given how bad the Biden administration has been at keeping peace.

I just wish Trump would bring more spotlight to the Ukraine issue like this specifically attacking Biden's bad decision and how they are affecting Americans and the whole world with food inflation that is directly tied to grain, fuel and fertilizer from Russia that we now can't get.

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1841155924133617918

[blockman]

According to the RealClearPolling no-Tossup map, Pennsylvania has once again swung to Donald Trump, after Kamala was ahead for almost two weeks. Trump now holds a razor-thin lead of 0.2% in this state in aggregate of polls. And this means that Trump/Vance is now ahead in electoral college by a margin of 281 vs 257. We have just around 5-6 weeks to go for the elections and if the opinion polls are correct this time (they were horribly wrong in both 2016 and 2020), then the winner of the election may not be announced immediately due to several close contests.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

I have a question, that this means that Pennsylvania has already won by Trump and opinion polls like this usually are the same during the election day? How accurate usually these opinion polls are? Pardon me as I am starting to follow this.

Polls do not equal the political reality of the United States whatsoever. That is something one needs to understand from the first move one does when getting into geopolitics also the inner politics of the United States. Those polls are made with a sample of the population, which means the poll could be biased or inaccurate, depending on the team behind them.
Look for example what happened during the midterm elections of 2022, according to polls the Republican party was supposed to gain advantage over the Democrat party both in the Senate and in the House of Representatives, it did not happen.

So if you are new at betting and American politics, I would recommend you to be skeptical of pols and see a little bit more how betting markets react to the actions of both candidates.

Okay, thank you. I understand it now and here in our country in the PH, I can compare that with what we call 'survey'. But just as you've said, many of us don't believe with it anymore because they can be manipulated and even the trusted organization that will conduct that can get paid by pretty much hefty amount of money just to mind condition the people. It's also important in our country who will be elected there in the US because of the tension in our seas against China.

[TwitchySeal]

Similarly, if I remember correctly, in the 2016 election, most polls showed that Hillary Clinton would win, but the final result was completely opposite. Polls are unreliable.

Polls are never highly accurate and do not represent the final outcome of election.

Polls just portray a range of how many voters will vote for each candidate.

Here's the average of all polls for the 6 months leading up to the 2016 election:


Here are the results: Trump: 46.1%   Clinton: 48.2%

[bbc.reporter]

@TwitchySeal. This is a similar occurrence to what is presently happening between Trump and Kamala. However on 2016, Trump tactics was something very new that shocked Hillary and her team. This tactic is not anymore new and it appears Kamala's team is not very much forced to react that would make them appear very comedic. It is Trump that has appeared comedic on the debate against Kamala.

Are illegal aliens not allowed to vote? I reckon Trump can make one more promise to increase his ratings. He can promise to give all those illegal aliens that have entered America's borders from 2020 to 2024 their citizenship if he is the winner on November hehehehe.

[yahoo62278]

@TwitchySeal. This is a similar occurrence to what is presently happening between Trump and Kamala. However on 2016, Trump tactics was something very new that shocked Hillary and her team. This tactic is not anymore new and it appears Kamala's team is not very much forced to react that would make them appear very comedic. It is Trump that has appeared comedic on the debate against Kamala.

Are illegal aliens not allowed to vote? I reckon Trump can make one more promise to increase his ratings. He can promise to give all those illegal aliens that have entered America's borders from 2020 to 2024 their citizenship if he is the winner on November hehehehe.

Trump did look like a bitch sorta on the debate he had with Harris, but if I were a voter I would still vote Trump over Harris. In the end they are all liars, all make broken promises, and all are just puppets. Difference with Trump is the entertainment factor. If he is in office, the Dems will not stop looking for ways to impeach him, criticize everything he does or doesn't do, and Twitter(X) will always have headlines for him to make silly comments on.

[Sithara007]

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Are illegal aliens not allowed to vote? I reckon Trump can make one more promise to increase his ratings. He can promise to give all those illegal aliens that have entered America's borders from 2020 to 2024 their citizenship if he is the winner on November hehehehe.

Trump is not lunatic enough to do that. And actually it is one of the policies from Kamala and her team to bring as many illegals as possible to the United States and make them citizens in the long term. In the short term, there is a real possibility of these illegals being used for voter fraud operations masterminded by the Dems. One thing that you should remember is that most of the illegals are being herded into crucial swing states, such as Arizona, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Michigan.

[el kaka22]

Vance and Walz was much closer than Trump vs Kamala. Kamala destroyed Trump without a doubt, but Walz and Vance were professionals and both played as defensively as possible being gentleman's and tried just not to lose. When you do not go on the offensive, you do not get your words shoved back to your face, and you do fine, you do not win, but you do not lose, and both did that.

One point extra goes to Vance for me though, while I dislike the dude, he did alright and I would put him one point ahead of Walz, because at one point Vance pointed out the Haitan story, and he was fact checked, while they should be fact checked, the deal was there were no fact checks by the mods, and if you agreed to it and then do it, then it's wrong. And he did responded with legality of "path to citizenship" which is literally just applying, you could be rejected, but until you are rejected, you are on the path, and all you do is just apply, which he cleared up. Good move, and puts him above Walz for one point if you ask me.

[3kpk3]

I just wish Trump would bring more spotlight to the Ukraine issue like this specifically attacking Biden's bad decision and how they are affecting Americans and the whole world with food inflation that is directly tied to grain, fuel and fertilizer from Russia that we now can't get.

Biden? This is exactly the big problem that Trump and his team have been facing ever since candidacy switched from Biden to Harris. You keep talking about Biden, but the world is more focused on what Harris brings to the table now.

This is what gives her the edge. Both Biden and Trump were moronic presidents who showed the world how not to execute the presidency role. Harris could be the same as them or different if she become the new president.

[alani123]

I just wish Trump would bring more spotlight to the Ukraine issue like this specifically attacking Biden's bad decision and how they are affecting Americans and the whole world with food inflation that is directly tied to grain, fuel and fertilizer from Russia that we now can't get.

Biden? This is exactly the big problem that Trump and his team have been facing ever since candidacy switched from Biden to Harris. You keep talking about Biden, but the world is more focused on what Harris brings to the table now.

This is what gives her the edge. Both Biden and Trump were moronic presidents who showed the world how not to execute the presidency role. Harris could be the same as them or different if she become the new president.

That's the thing, Kamala Harris is held to the same standard as Biden. She's the top person in the whole of America to take responsibility for the administration she is the vice president of.

So whatever the Biden administration did wrong, not only does she have to take accountability for, but she also has to defend it if she wants a term as president. So now Kamala has in fact vowed to continue the same policies, if Trump wants to attack the Harris campaign based on Biden admin policies it would be very easy.

[nullama]

Interestingly, in history I have found only one president who became president twice, but not for a second term (not in a row). This is very rare. It was Grover Cleveland. Will Trump be able to repeat such a rare event? It is very doubtful, because on the opposite side the candidate is younger, and the main thing is that she is a woman. There has not been a female president yet. That's a big trump card. People love something new, something that happens for the first time. And who of them is saying and promising what now - it's all empty. Promising is one thing, but keeping a promise is another. In reality, people choose someone they like, not someone who talks a lot.

On the flip side to that, many people would never vote for a woman.

It's kinda like a two sided sword, on one side you have the possibility of something new, something that has never happened before, and on the other you have all the reasons why that has not happened before...

So, we'll have to wait and see what happens. It's all speculation really until we actually get the voting results.

[TravelMug]

I just wish Trump would bring more spotlight to the Ukraine issue like this specifically attacking Biden's bad decision and how they are affecting Americans and the whole world with food inflation that is directly tied to grain, fuel and fertilizer from Russia that we now can't get.

Biden? This is exactly the big problem that Trump and his team have been facing ever since candidacy switched from Biden to Harris. You keep talking about Biden, but the world is more focused on what Harris brings to the table now.

This is what gives her the edge. Both Biden and Trump were moronic presidents who showed the world how not to execute the presidency role. Harris could be the same as them or different if she become the new president.

That's the thing, Kamala Harris is held to the same standard as Biden. She's the top person in the whole of America to take responsibility for the administration she is the vice president of.

So whatever the Biden administration did wrong, not only does she have to take accountability for, but she also has to defend it if she wants a term as president. So now Kamala has in fact vowed to continue the same policies, if Trump wants to attack the Harris campaign based on Biden admin policies it would be very easy.

Of course, it will reflect to her as she is the VP and would for sure continues the policy of Biden administration as they are in the same party. But what separates her from Biden is that she is obviously younger and so she has the advantage moving forward and she has shown that he is not at fear with the rhetoric of Trump, on the contrary others says that she win on their debate and Trump acknowledge that and wanted to have a second debate.

Although the odds slightly favors Trump.

The VP debate though is much more of like respect, and it is very close and reports are in and said that there are no clear winner between Walz and Vance.

[Fiatless]

Interestingly, in history I have found only one president who became president twice, but not for a second term (not in a row). This is very rare. It was Grover Cleveland. Will Trump be able to repeat such a rare event? It is very doubtful, because on the opposite side the candidate is younger, and the main thing is that she is a woman. There has not been a female president yet. That's a big trump card. People love something new, something that happens for the first time. And who of them is saying and promising what now - it's all empty. Promising is one thing, but keeping a promise is another. In reality, people choose someone they like, not someone who talks a lot.

Kamala faces a few obstacles to overcome. Her skin tone and sexual orientation could be a vulnerability. A minority or a woman may never be the candidate that some voters wish to support. A few people adore change, while others cherish the status quo. Had the US elections been decided by the desire for change, Hilary Clinton would have defeated Donald Trump. She still has a lot of work to do to persuade American voters that she is worthy of the presidency. Trump is a more seasoned politician who is skilled at playing on emotions to win over voters, so Kamala will need to outwit him. 

[Haunebu]

Her skin tone and sexual orientation could be a vulnerability.

Skin tone? Obama : Hello! Sexual orientation? She is straight and is married to a dude and has kids which is why I don't see any problem here.

A minority or a woman may never be the candidate that some voters wish to support.

You really are underestimating the power of women in the modern world today.

Had the US elections been decided by the desire for change, Hilary Clinton would have defeated Donald Trump.

This desire for change is the very reason why voters made Trump the president before. You really need to think before typing so much nonsense.

[sompitonov]

Interestingly, in history I have found only one president who became president twice, but not for a second term (not in a row). This is very rare. It was Grover Cleveland. Will Trump be able to repeat such a rare event? It is very doubtful, because on the opposite side the candidate is younger, and the main thing is that she is a woman. There has not been a female president yet. That's a big trump card. People love something new, something that happens for the first time. And who of them is saying and promising what now - it's all empty. Promising is one thing, but keeping a promise is another. In reality, people choose someone they like, not someone who talks a lot.

Kamala faces a few obstacles to overcome. Her skin tone and sexual orientation could be a vulnerability. A minority or a woman may never be the candidate that some voters wish to support. A few people adore change, while others cherish the status quo. Had the US elections been decided by the desire for change, Hilary Clinton would have defeated Donald Trump. She still has a lot of work to do to persuade American voters that she is worthy of the presidency. Trump is a more seasoned politician who is skilled at playing on emotions to win over voters, so Kamala will need to outwit him. 

This is a race and it is about who will beat or outsmart whom. The one who will offer better promises, make a good impression and other things. We must not forget that each candidate has professionals who are fighting for every voter. Today's political strategists know their business well, they study huge databases and tell good news and promises to those layers of the population that are the most numerous, and then in the second place they begin to work with those who are the least numerous, trying not to offend others. In general, this is a big game.

[Hirose UK]

Interestingly, in history I have found only one president who became president twice, but not for a second term (not in a row). This is very rare. It was Grover Cleveland. Will Trump be able to repeat such a rare event? It is very doubtful, because on the opposite side the candidate is younger, and the main thing is that she is a woman. There has not been a female president yet. That's a big trump card. People love something new, something that happens for the first time. And who of them is saying and promising what now - it's all empty. Promising is one thing, but keeping a promise is another. In reality, people choose someone they like, not someone who talks a lot.

Kamala faces a few obstacles to overcome. Her skin tone and sexual orientation could be a vulnerability. A minority or a woman may never be the candidate that some voters wish to support. A few people adore change, while others cherish the status quo. Had the US elections been decided by the desire for change, Hilary Clinton would have defeated Donald Trump. She still has a lot of work to do to persuade American voters that she is worthy of the presidency. Trump is a more seasoned politician who is skilled at playing on emotions to win over voters, so Kamala will need to outwit him. 

In today era I think the difference in skin color and also the bad assumptions about women as leader in country will not really be able to apply as before, everything has developed over time and the increasingly advanced era will only show performance and reputation.
In reality Kamala has quite lot of support and she is female US presidential candidate who has really started to show her seriousness in seeking more hearts of the US people to be willing to support her, even though Trump is candidate who is difficult to beat but Kamala also cannot be underestimated regarding how she moves to seek more support.
We all know that Trump is far superior with experience and so many loyal supporters behind him and the fight to get the most votes in the upcoming election, time is getting closer and Kamala and Trump both show their strength to be the most superior candidate but I think Trump will have much better chance of winning the 2024 election.

[Marvell1]

Kamala faces a few obstacles to overcome. Her skin tone and sexual orientation could be a vulnerability. A minority or a woman may never be the candidate that some voters wish to support. A few people adore change, while others cherish the status quo. Had the US elections been decided by the desire for change, Hilary Clinton would have defeated Donald Trump. She still has a lot of work to do to persuade American voters that she is worthy of the presidency. Trump is a more seasoned politician who is skilled at playing on emotions to win over voters, so Kamala will need to outwit him. 

In today era I think the difference in skin color and also the bad assumptions about women as leader in country will not really be able to apply as before, everything has developed over time and the increasingly advanced era will only show performance and reputation.
In reality Kamala has quite lot of support and she is female US presidential candidate who has really started to show her seriousness in seeking more hearts of the US people to be willing to support her, even though Trump is candidate who is difficult to beat but Kamala also cannot be underestimated regarding how she moves to seek more support.
We all know that Trump is far superior with experience and so many loyal supporters behind him and the fight to get the most votes in the upcoming election, time is getting closer and Kamala and Trump both show their strength to be the most superior candidate but I think Trump will have much better chance of winning the 2024 election.

You are right, our society is becoming more civilized, but the reality is that it is not as perfect as you think. Discrimination based on skin color, ethnicity and gender still exists in our daily lives, but people just do not admit it openly.

You have to remember that Kamala wasn't the Democrats' first choice, she was the backup choice when their top candidate couldn't continue running due to age. She would never have been the Democratic choice if Biden didn't have problems. So it can be said that she will face many challenges to become the first female president of the United States.


Harris is also getting a lot of support but not because she is really good but because the Democrats cannot vote for Trump and supporting Harris is the only thing they can do.

To put it bluntly, this is a competition between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and this competition has been going on for centuries. Harris has the support she has today because the Democratic Party has a great strategy. As for the personal comparison between Trump and Harris, I really don't rate her highly.