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June 28, 2014, 07:35:23 AM
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Voting on Coinwartz many times every day! So for sure, one day we will enter this one!

Within 3 or 4 weeks we should be there!

Price of NLG has stabilised and rising slowly but steady now. All buyorder numbers from 82 up to 101 filled, without gabs. Good sign, I think!

Don't let the figures fool you!! Every thing is filled because someone makes it look like it is filled. For instance there were big .5 BTC buy orders several times and zipp they are gone. Bought up you think? Nope, they are not in the historical transactions, so they are placed and canceled, placed and canceled. Thats the game, I mentioned before "buckle up and watch the show". Maybe I should add that you went down the rabbit hole when you entered the cryptoworld, nothing is what it looks like and were you see things is nothing...
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June 28, 2014, 07:39:31 AM
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Not sure your point... at the time of those spikes... POT was using the latest version of KGW(same version as NLG is using now)... I know... I was there mining POT. You can also ask 'Fuse' as I am part of the Criptoe Team... he will confirm the facts.

Go to Github and check the PotCoin commits... POT is now using Digishield for its block retargting algo... which is only slightly better than KGW at coping... which means it does not make any real world difference.

No simulation needed... that was how KGW reacted in the real world.

I am speaking from experience trying to protect NLG and ensure it succeeds.

24Kilo is correct.  Most coins have moved to DGW or Digishield in response to the shortcomings of KGW.  POT realized this and made the move after realizing that the newer KGW wasn't totally effective.  It did plug the timewarp hole(as far as we know).

While a move to Digishield would be beneficial in the long run, staying off the coin profitability sites will negate the need... for now.  The good news is that the total network hashrate is relatively low right now.  Making a move to Digishield would be easier to manage right now.  In addition, the code change is minimal.  I would say go for it.

For the time being though, Like 24Kilo mentioned, under the radar with organic traffic is the way to go.

-Fuse

Yep KGW is easy to manipulate (I tested it myself - sorry hardcore - and managed to get 75% of the coins in 50% of the time. Digishield is way more suited. We need proper protection, warning and organic growth.
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June 28, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
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How about Dark Gravity Wave?

Has anyone got any objections towards that retarget method?
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June 28, 2014, 09:37:55 AM
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How about Dark Gravity Wave?

Has anyone got any objections towards that retarget method?

The point of the discussion was to alert the community that the listing of NLG on Coinwarz will only be detrimental to the coin and network.

There is no retargeting algo that will prevent a network from sticking when hit with 10X increase in hash-rate, the retargeting algo is doing its job to keep the average block time to the prescribed spec. Prevention is better than a cure, and that is focus on utility and user adoption, not increasing miner awareness.

Miners will naturally be attracted to NLG as it becomes more adopted and accepted. Attracting miners is easy, building a user base is many times harder.

As the network grows in size and maturity the threat of diff spikes and network stalls will decrease.

So KGW, Digishield, DGW... the point is to protect the coin until it is mature enough to handle the big bad world.
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June 28, 2014, 09:58:19 AM
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How about Dark Gravity Wave?

Has anyone got any objections towards that retarget method?

The point of the discussion was to alert the community that the listing of NLG on Coinwarz will only be detrimental to the coin and network.

There is no retargeting algo that will prevent a network from sticking when hit with 10X increase in hash-rate, the retargeting algo is doing its job to keep the average block time to the prescribed spec. Prevention is better than a cure, and that is focus on utility and user adoption, not increasing miner awareness.

Miners will naturally be attracted to NLG as it becomes more adopted and accepted. Attracting miners is easy, building a user base is many times harder.

As the network grows in size and maturity the threat of diff spikes and network stalls will decrease.

So KGW, Digishield, DGW... the point is to protect the coin until it is mature enough to handle the big bad world.

I agree with you and I don't vote on coinwarz anymore. KGW is good as it is and will be better and better when the network grows naturally in time. Good discussion though!
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June 28, 2014, 11:41:48 AM
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Did I miss something with the NLGcup? Because it's not possible anymore to bet on draw...
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June 28, 2014, 12:47:03 PM
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Did I miss something with the NLGcup? Because it's not possible anymore to bet on draw...

Matches won't end in draw anymore.. The following matches will be extended in time when there's no winner. I don't know the exact rules.. I think there will be 2x 15 minutes of game extension. And golden goal after that?
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June 28, 2014, 01:36:47 PM
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Did I miss something with the NLGcup? Because it's not possible anymore to bet on draw...

Matches won't end in draw anymore.. The following matches will be extended in time when there's no winner. I don't know the exact rules.. I think there will be 2x 15 minutes of game extension. And golden goal after that?

That is correct Geert, it's do or die now, there has to be a winner, if draw at full time when we have 30min extra time and if still a draw then penalty shootouts to decide the winner.

https://developer.gulden.com/blog/ - For the latest Gulden development updates
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June 28, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
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Did I miss something with the NLGcup? Because it's not possible anymore to bet on draw...

Matches won't end in draw anymore.. The following matches will be extended in time when there's no winner. I don't know the exact rules.. I think there will be 2x 15 minutes of game extension. And golden goal after that?

That is correct Geert, it's do or die now, there has to be a winner, if draw at full time when we have 30min extra time and if still a draw then penalty shootouts to decide the winner.

Thanks guys, I did not realise.
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June 29, 2014, 05:37:48 AM
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voting for coinwarz is like voting for your own death sentence these days.

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June 29, 2014, 07:16:01 AM
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question about solomining this coin, after making the config file guldencoin.conf what do i have to de with the wallet ?
 i know i have start the wallet with the -server option but wen i look at the debug windows getminininfo :

getmininginfo i see generate " false" do i have to put gen=1 in configuration file ? wen i setgenerate true in wallet my cpu go mining it and i just want my GPU mining this

with cudaminer running  i see in debug windows getmining info :

blocks" : 73034,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 16.70043859,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 463054683,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false

i in my cuda miner start bat running :
[2014-06-29 09:14:17] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 229.62 khash/s
[2014-06-29 09:14:22] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 229.63 khash/s
[2014-06-29 09:14:27] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 229.77 khash/s
[2014-06-29 09:14:33] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 229.18 khash/s
[2014-06-29 09:14:38] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 229.63 khash/s
[2014-06-29 09:14:43] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 229.50 khash/s
[2014-06-29 09:14:48] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 229.41 khash/s
[2014-06-29 09:14:53] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 231.49 khash/s
[2014-06-29 09:14:58] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750, 230.71 khash/s

solo mining  guldencoin.conf as on page 1 like this :
rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcport=9232
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
server=1
daemon=1
listen=1
addnode=seed1.guldencoin.com
addnode=seed2.guldencoin.com
addnode=seed3.guldencoin.com
addnode=seed4.guldencoin.com
addnode=seed5.guldencoin.com
addnode=seed6.guldencoin.com
addnode=seed7.guldencoin.com  ect,ect

need some little help here to see if my config is oke to mine with my GPU only please ,

after a wile running i see now in wallet debug window this :



{
"blocks" : 73046,
"currentblocksize" : 2927,
"currentblocktx" : 2,
"difficulty" : 17.03426254,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 459779280,
"pooledtx" : 2,
"testnet" : false
}

is this oke ?


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June 29, 2014, 07:28:54 AM
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The wallet software only does CPU mining. You need to let your cudaminer connect with your wallet software (RPC interface) to do solo GPU mining. Your wallet software runs then as a private pool.
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June 29, 2014, 07:35:35 AM
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The wallet software only does CPU mining. You need to let your cudaminer connect with your wallet software (RPC interface) to do solo GPU mining. Your wallet software runs then as a private pool.

oke clear to me it is connecting with my wallet thanks for the info..

and can i also " do double ? i mean setgenerate true , so GPU and CPU in the same time ?


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June 29, 2014, 07:42:37 AM
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The wallet software only does CPU mining. You need to let your cudaminer connect with your wallet software (RPC interface) to do solo GPU mining. Your wallet software runs then as a private pool.

oke clear to me it is connecting with my wallet thanks for the info..

and can i also " do double ? i mean setgenerate true , so GPU and CPU in the same time ?


I don't see why not. Did you try?
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June 29, 2014, 07:48:13 AM
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The wallet software only does CPU mining. You need to let your cudaminer connect with your wallet software (RPC interface) to do solo GPU mining. Your wallet software runs then as a private pool.

oke clear to me it is connecting with my wallet thanks for the info..

and can i also " do double ? i mean setgenerate true , so GPU and CPU in the same time ?


I don't see why not. Did you try?

oke iam goin to start it il let you know in 10 min ;-)


hm cpu gets to 60/70 degrees .......is that oke ? otherwise i just let it run with cudaminer
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June 29, 2014, 08:58:51 AM
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hm cpu gets to 60/70 degrees .......is that oke ? otherwise i just let it run with cudaminer

With stock coolers that should be right (My system also gets that hot when running at max), but
take care with hot days. If you're not comfortable with it don't do it, because you won't gain that
much extra with it. Or run with less cores (if it is a multi-core system).

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Could you give me your card specs, settings that you run cudaminer with and the average hash rate you obtain?
It's for the docs.guldencoin.com website.
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June 29, 2014, 09:19:05 AM
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hm cpu gets to 60/70 degrees .......is that oke ? otherwise i just let it run with cudaminer

With stock coolers that should be right (My system also gets that hot when running at max), but
take care with hot days. If you're not comfortable with it don't do it, because you won't gain that
much extra with it. Or run with less cores (if it is a multi-core system).

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Could you give me your card specs, settings that you run cudaminer with and the average hash rate you obtain?
It's for the docs.guldencoin.com website.
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my Card : MSI gamers edition GTX750 1 GB

sure i will here is my cudaminer settings for this card :  cudaminer.exe  -o http://myip:myport -u myusername -p mypassword -i 0 -H 1 -l T4x24

hashrate arround 237 khash/s


now i have a challenge so cudaminer runs well i dont want the wallet mine to so i have setgenerate false becouse the wallet would mine to if i set true,
now i want minerd to connect but i get jason error ??

is it possible to let minerd also run on my own pool ?

if i look at this settings :


minerd -a scrypt -o http://myip:myport -O GcfkiZPaqMyNumezFVUgKqgYXEsLDu1FQM:x   ->  wont run :

[2014-06-29 11:19:34] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2
[2014-06-29 11:19:34] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1
[2014-06-29 11:19:34] HTTP request failed: The requested URL returned error: 401

[2014-06-29 11:19:34] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
 
minerd -a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://gulden.p2p.0x0a.nl:27100 -u GcfkiZPaqMyNumezFVUgKqgYXEsLDu1FQM     ->  runs perfectly

i would love to have minerd also runs on my solo mining same time with cudaminer is that possible ?



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June 29, 2014, 09:27:43 AM
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sure i will here is my cudaminer settings for this card :  cudaminer.exe  -o http://myip:myport -u myusername -p mypassword -i 0 -H 1 -l T4x24

hashrate arround 237 khash/s

Thank you, what type of card is that?

minerd -a scrypt -o http://myip:myport -O GcfkiZPaqMyNumezFVUgKqgYXEsLDu1FQM:x   ->  wont run :

From the minerd documentation (note this is for bitcoin):

To mine to a local Bitcoin testnet instance running on port 18332, authenticating with username "rpcuser" and password "rpcpass":
minerd -a sha256d -o http://localhost:18332 -O rpcuser:rpcpass -coinbase -addr=mpXwg4jMtRhuSpVq4xS3HFHmCmWp9NyGKt

I'm not sure about the -coinbase and -addr flags, but your username and password could be wrong (not address)?


i would love to have minerd also runs on my solo mining same time with cudaminer is that possible ?

Why not use Guldencoind for solo mining, I guess minerd add overhead?
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June 29, 2014, 10:10:00 AM
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sure i will here is my cudaminer settings for this card :  cudaminer.exe  -o http://myip:myport -u myusername -p mypassword -i 0 -H 1 -l T4x24

hashrate arround 237 khash/s

Thank you, what type of card is that?

minerd -a scrypt -o http://myip:myport -O GcfkiZPaqMyNumezFVUgKqgYXEsLDu1FQM:x   ->  wont run :

From the minerd documentation (note this is for bitcoin):

To mine to a local Bitcoin testnet instance running on port 18332, authenticating with username "rpcuser" and password "rpcpass":
minerd -a sha256d -o http://localhost:18332 -O rpcuser:rpcpass -coinbase -addr=mpXwg4jMtRhuSpVq4xS3HFHmCmWp9NyGKt

I'm not sure about the -coinbase and -addr flags, but your username and password could be wrong (not address)?


i would love to have minerd also runs on my solo mining same time with cudaminer is that possible ?

Why not use Guldencoind for solo mining, I guess minerd add overhead?

MY Card :
MSI gamers Edtion GTX 750 1GB



link for specs :

http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N750_TF_1GD5OC.html#hero-overview

i am no for the moment on : http://gulden.p2p.0x0a.nl:27100  to see what it does

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June 29, 2014, 10:29:41 AM
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hm cpu gets to 60/70 degrees .......is that oke ? otherwise i just let it run with cudaminer

With stock coolers that should be right (My system also gets that hot when running at max), but
take care with hot days. If you're not comfortable with it don't do it, because you won't gain that
much extra with it. Or run with less cores (if it is a multi-core system).

<edit>
Could you give me your card specs, settings that you run cudaminer with and the average hash rate you obtain?
It's for the docs.guldencoin.com website.
</edit>


my Card : MSI gamers edition GTX750 1 GB

sure i will here is my cudaminer settings for this card :  cudaminer.exe  -o http://myip:myport -u myusername -p mypassword -i 0 -H 1 -l T4x24

hashrate arround 237 khash/s


now i have a challenge so cudaminer runs well i dont want the wallet mine to so i have setgenerate false becouse the wallet would mine to if i set true,
now i want minerd to connect but i get jason error ??

is it possible to let minerd also run on my own pool ?

if i look at this settings :


minerd -a scrypt -o http://myip:myport -O GcfkiZPaqMyNumezFVUgKqgYXEsLDu1FQM:x   ->  wont run :

[2014-06-29 11:19:34] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2
[2014-06-29 11:19:34] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1
[2014-06-29 11:19:34] HTTP request failed: The requested URL returned error: 401

[2014-06-29 11:19:34] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
 
minerd -a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://gulden.p2p.0x0a.nl:27100 -u GcfkiZPaqMyNumezFVUgKqgYXEsLDu1FQM     ->  runs perfectly

i would love to have minerd also runs on my solo mining same time with cudaminer is that possible ?



If you want to mine solo - which is not preferable with only 250Khs at this diff- you have to mine against the IP of the machine where the deamon runs with that uid and pwd not the wallet address, thats p2p.

So in your case minerd -a scrypt -o http://myip:myport -O userid from guldencoin.conf: password from guldencoin.conf

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