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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4583968 times)
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February 27, 2018, 08:43:45 PM
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hey i heard XMV is the real XMR   Grin

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February 27, 2018, 09:11:27 PM
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Thanks for letting us know you have no clue on privacy

Meh. It's possible to invest in the idea that people are going to move towards privacy focused cryptos without assuming that they will know which actually provides it. Cheesy

And This again, Deeponin is nothing but bitcoin run through tor, any coin can do that. Hell thinking Dash is private is another perfect example of not knowing what the tech does and doesn't do.

People just throw money at what ever is marketed at them, and they get what they deserve when they are left holding the bag.

Sure I know all that. I don't think it invalidates what I said though.

A mention of privacy, like all the companies jumping on the blockchain bandwagon.


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February 27, 2018, 10:36:44 PM
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Sarang's monthly update:

https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/89005/funding-for-sarang-at-mrl-for-q1-2018?page=&noscroll=1#post-94324


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Thanks for letting us know you have no clue on privacy

Meh. It's possible to invest in the idea that people are going to move towards privacy focused cryptos without assuming that they will know which actually provides it. Cheesy

And This again, Deeponin is nothing but bitcoin run through tor, any coin can do that. Hell thinking Dash is private is another perfect example of not knowing what the tech does and doesn't do.

People just throw money at what ever is marketed at them, and they get what they deserve when they are left holding the bag.

Sure I know all that. I don't think it invalidates what I said though.

A mention of privacy, like all the companies jumping on the blockchain bandwagon.

All I'm saying is that sometimes principles can get in the way in investing. What I'm definitely not saying is that I own any DeepOnion. Absolutely not. But if someone wanted to make the argument that 2018 was going to be a big year for privacy in cryptocurrencies and that this was going to cause DeepOnion to rise in value I would have to concede that that may be true and the fact that DeepOnion doesn't actually provide privacy may not matter.

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February 28, 2018, 01:52:07 AM
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hey i heard XMV is the real XMR   Grin
sheesh hard to get laugh these days

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February 28, 2018, 07:02:31 AM
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I lost several XMRs in Mintpal, does any body know how can i get these coins now?
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February 28, 2018, 07:22:32 AM
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I know @fluffypony is honest, who helped the @ferdous to recover more than 100000 XMRs of Mintpal. But when i asked @ferdous to return the coins belongs to me, he said NO. Can any body know how to ask for these coins from @ferdous?
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February 28, 2018, 02:26:58 PM
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hey i heard XMV is the real XMR   Grin

Yeah, it's thankfulfortoday's wet dream.
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February 28, 2018, 07:37:06 PM
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is a new exchanger, did I understand it correctly? Do you cooperate with projects like Safinus? Can I change profit here?
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March 01, 2018, 05:50:47 AM
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hey i heard XMV is the real XMR   Grin

Yeeeeaaaahhhhh, and Trump is an intelligent Person with a healhty common sense  Grin Wink

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March 01, 2018, 08:27:43 AM
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I started mining a XMR using 10 VPS, I mined 50 XMR that was 2015, the value was 150000 sats, that's the range.
Now XMR 0.02782770 BTC/XMR so lucky.

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March 01, 2018, 08:37:03 AM
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Hi guys!

We have added support for Monero to our Crypto Mining Profitability Calculator: https://crypt0.zone/calculator/!

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March 01, 2018, 02:32:27 PM
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I have been trying to accumulate more Monero over the past two years as well as Deep onion for the past 3 months, both coins seem to be doing a great job with anonymity, no matter how much overtime I do, it still feels like not enough lol

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▬▬▬▬   (✔) DeepVault Blockchain File Signatures  •  VoteCentral Your Vote Counts  •  deeponion.org   ▬▬▬▬
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March 01, 2018, 09:30:27 PM
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Bulletproofs ready for audit

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/89993/bulletproofs-audit


Core Team Announcement

https://getmonero.org/2018/03/01/core-team-announcement.html

  -Not sure if it's just me, or if the formatting of this page is fukd.
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March 01, 2018, 09:48:39 PM
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I have been trying to accumulate more Monero over the past two years as well as Deep onion for the past 3 months, both coins seem to be doing a great job with anonymity, no matter how much overtime I do, it still feels like not enough lol

Yeah 2k18 will be an intersting year for xmr. In my opinion monero  AND onion wont prevail both. And monero is already used more often to pay goods than onion so i think xmr will outperform onion Cheesy

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March 01, 2018, 10:29:42 PM
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  If you haven't been using the Monerujo wallet for Android,  You're missing out.  It was good, worked as described, no fuss. 
And then...  the integration of XMR.to has made things ridiculously simple.  XMR.to was always easy to use, but still required some inputs.  Now, you open Monerujo wallet, scan the BTC QR code to pay, tap confirm and done.  it just works, every time.

  Binaryfate, you're awesome.  Glad to see you on the Core Team!



Oh yeah, don't keep too much crypto on a phone, and blah blah blah, surely you know the drill...

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March 02, 2018, 06:49:10 AM
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Well now. This is less than ideal.

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The Tor Project - a private nonprofit known as the "NSA-proof" gateway to the "dark web," turns out to be almost "100% funded by the US government" according to documents obtained by investigative journalist and author Yasha Levine.

In a recent blog post, Levine details how he was able to obtain roughly 2,500 pages of correspondence via FOIA requests while performing research for a book. The documents include strategy, contract, budgets and status updates between the Tor project and its primary source of funding; a CIA spinoff known as the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), which "oversees America's foreign broadcasting operations like Radio Free Asia and Radio Free Europe."

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By following the money, I discovered that Tor was not a grassroots. I was able to show that despite its indie radical cred and claims to help its users protect themselves from government surveillance online, Tor was almost 100% funded by three U.S. National Security agencies: the Navy, the State Department and the BBG. Following the money revealed that Tor was not a grassroots outfit, but a military contractor with its own government contractor number. In other words: it was a privatized extension of the very same government that it claimed to be fighting.

The documents conclusively showed that Tor is not independent at all. The organization did not have free reign to do whatever it wanted, but was kept on a very short leash and bound by contracts with strict contractual obligations. It was also required to file detailed monthly status reports that gave the U.S. government a clear picture of what Tor employees were developing, where they went and who they saw. -Yasha Levine

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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March 02, 2018, 07:38:43 AM
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Thanks for letting us know you have no clue on privacy

Meh. It's possible to invest in the idea that people are going to move towards privacy focused cryptos without assuming that they will know which actually provides it. Cheesy

And This again, Deeponin is nothing but bitcoin run through tor, any coin can do that. Hell thinking Dash is private is another perfect example of not knowing what the tech does and doesn't do.

People just throw money at what ever is marketed at them, and they get what they deserve when they are left holding the bag.

Sure I know all that. I don't think it invalidates what I said though.

Lol yeah I know you know it, my post was directed at the person Globb0 had responded too. With just your quote of it, It does look like I was saying that to you. And "And This again" was me saying that you were the third person I was agreeing with, the second was the one I quested with "And This" as the comment and the first I quoted with "This". So in essence I was agreeing with all three comments and elaborating them.

Damn I hope that makes sense I'm a little trashed and tired. Smiley

Peer review is more relevant for scientific articles before accepting to publish.

Not really, They are mandatory for any infrastructure change in a critical system.

I lost several XMRs in Mintpal, does any body know how can i get these coins now?

time machine?

Bulletproofs ready for audit

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/89993/bulletproofs-audit


Core Team Announcement

https://getmonero.org/2018/03/01/core-team-announcement.html

  -Not sure if it's just me, or if the formatting of this page is fukd.

It's AFU for me as well but I'm thinking thats because I have JS blocked and for some weird reason getmonero.org just wants to keep using it. It's these type things that put a bee in my bonnet as the saying goes. Wink I just hate security holes on projects that completely rely on providing the BEST security possible.

BTW I just blocked the recents posts and the other element that are hanging in the middle of the page and can read the page now.

Great to hear BF's are ready for Audit! exiting times. Cheesy

Bummer to see Tacotime has left us. Sad


Well now. This is less than ideal.

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The Tor Project - a private nonprofit known as the "NSA-proof" gateway to the "dark web," turns out to be almost "100% funded by the US government" according to documents obtained by investigative journalist and author Yasha Levine.

In a recent blog post, Levine details how he was able to obtain roughly 2,500 pages of correspondence via FOIA requests while performing research for a book. The documents include strategy, contract, budgets and status updates between the Tor project and its primary source of funding; a CIA spinoff known as the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), which "oversees America's foreign broadcasting operations like Radio Free Asia and Radio Free Europe."

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By following the money, I discovered that Tor was not a grassroots. I was able to show that despite its indie radical cred and claims to help its users protect themselves from government surveillance online, Tor was almost 100% funded by three U.S. National Security agencies: the Navy, the State Department and the BBG. Following the money revealed that Tor was not a grassroots outfit, but a military contractor with its own government contractor number. In other words: it was a privatized extension of the very same government that it claimed to be fighting.

The documents conclusively showed that Tor is not independent at all. The organization did not have free reign to do whatever it wanted, but was kept on a very short leash and bound by contracts with strict contractual obligations. It was also required to file detailed monthly status reports that gave the U.S. government a clear picture of what Tor employees were developing, where they went and who they saw. -Yasha Levine

Anyone that knows anything knew the bolded is bullshit and tor has been compromised for years. Of course I think it's accepted that only the Bad guys need to worry about that, IOW because the NSA cannot come out in court and say "Yup we busted you cause tor is compromised" that it is safe enough if you are not doing something really bad and if you are they have special courts for you and you will not have the rights to demand the proof against you anyway. Smiley

AFA the funding, so what The navy wrote the software in the first place this is well known.




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March 02, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
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"Bitcoin Is Falling Out of Favor on the Dark Web", from The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/03/bitcoin-crash-dark-web/553190/?single_page=true

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“Monero appears to be the way forward, at least for now: as you said, bitcoin is currently unusable for smaller transactions.”

It appears to The Atlantic that current motivation for ditching bitcoin transactional use in the undernet has been skyrocketed fees. It could be presently. It's still good enough because it gets people to try XMR, get them acquainted wth the tools and additional benefits, so next time they buy _stuff_, even if the btc fee lowered again, will consider reusing xmr.

Unrelated question: could anyone share, or point me to a economic work/textbook/paper that could explain exactly how the debt-based money extract wealth through inflation?

Thanks and cheers

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March 02, 2018, 04:38:50 PM
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Anyone that knows anything knew the bolded is bullshit and tor has been compromised for years. Of course I think it's accepted that only the Bad guys need to worry about that, IOW because the NSA cannot come out in court and say "Yup we busted you cause tor is compromised" that it is safe enough if you are not doing something really bad and if you are they have special courts for you and you will not have the rights to demand the proof against you anyway. Smiley

AFA the funding, so what The navy wrote the software in the first place this is well known.

Well I mean there is compromised and there is COMPROMISED. Sort of like how there is a difference between "we can expend some resources and figure out a users activity if we need to" and "we have a searchable database cataloging all user activity on this network".

We all knew that they could attack it by running tons of nodes and doing timing analysis and stuff like that. Maybe they occasionally found other vulnerabilities and exploits maybe those got patched maybe quickly maybe not so quickly. But I think it's an altogether different thing to learn that the entire operation is funded from top to bottom by the deep state. And I also think there is a difference between the original software being developed by the navy vs the orginal software being developed by the navy + the deep state is still funding nearly all of it's development to this day.

Basically I'm trying to make the case that this is a meaningful revelation that tells us some things that we might have speculated about but didn't know before and that how ever much we trusted tor before (like you said about useful scenarios) we should trust it less now.

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