[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[dooglus]

when you say that "Our digger is working backwards",
you mean Whale Digger is entering the btc privatekeys backwards through clam block time?

Yes.

Why isn't the digging random? Why would there be a predictable digging of clams going backwards?
Why doesn't it jump back and forth all over?

We can only guess at his reasons. I don't see what advantage it gives him to disclose his holdings in this way, so maybe it's accidental.

[AgentofCoin]

when you say that "Our digger is working backwards",
you mean Whale Digger is entering the btc privatekeys backwards through clam block time?

Yes.

Why isn't the digging random? Why would there be a predictable digging of clams going backwards?
Why doesn't it jump back and forth all over?

We can only guess at his reasons. I don't see what advantage it gives him to disclose his holdings in this way, so maybe it's accidental.

I could be over thinking this greatly and do not in anyway understand how the Clam System works,
but maybe Whale Digger knows doing it this way (backwards) discloses what the total amount to be dug will be,
as well as when the digging will end, so that the market and users don't become totally disillusioned with CLAM?

It is like a controlled dig that is stabilizing, versus the random dig where no one knows how bad it could get.

But as you said, we can only guess, I guess.
Thanks for your response Dooglus.

[tspacepilot]

when you say that "Our digger is working backwards",
you mean Whale Digger is entering the btc privatekeys backwards through clam block time?

Yes.

Why isn't the digging random? Why would there be a predictable digging of clams going backwards?
Why doesn't it jump back and forth all over?

We can only guess at his reasons. I don't see what advantage it gives him to disclose his holdings in this way, so maybe it's accidental.

I could be over thinking this greatly and do not in anyway understand how the Clam System works,
but maybe Whale Digger knows doing it this way (backwards) discloses what the total amount to be dug will be,
as well as when the digging will end, so that the market and users don't become totally disillusioned with CLAM?

It is like a controlled dig that is stabilizing, versus the random dig where no one knows how bad it could get.

But as you said, we can only guess, I guess.
Thanks for your response Dooglus.

This seems to make sense to me.  If the guy just wants to cash in all this free money then clearly he has to avoid driving the price to 0 early in the game.  Making it obvious just how long he can keep going might be a strategy to keep people buying.

[forzendiablo]

is this guy still dumping? ;x

[dooglus]

I could be over thinking this greatly and do not in anyway understand how the Clam System works,
but maybe Whale Digger knows doing it this way (backwards) discloses what the total amount to be dug will be,
as well as when the digging will end, so that the market and users don't become totally disillusioned with CLAM?

It is like a controlled dig that is stabilizing, versus the random dig where no one knows how bad it could get.

That's possible, but wouldn't it make sense to dig only half of what he has available from each block so we think he has less left than he really does?

Of course, maybe that *is* what he's doing... we just can't tell.

[AgentofCoin]

I could be over thinking this greatly and do not in anyway understand how the Clam System works,
but maybe Whale Digger knows doing it this way (backwards) discloses what the total amount to be dug will be,
as well as when the digging will end, so that the market and users don't become totally disillusioned with CLAM?

It is like a controlled dig that is stabilizing, versus the random dig where no one knows how bad it could get.

That's possible, but wouldn't it make sense to dig only half of what he has available from each block so we think he has less left than he really does?

Of course, maybe that *is* what he's doing... we just can't tell.

Yes, its possible.
But frankly, I have no knowledge of how the Clam System works and what can or can not be done in general. I'm a layman.

I was just surprised we (by your data and graphs) can see the Whale Digger actually digging backwards. As if there was a plan.
Whether that is intentional, coincidence, or actually the functional design of the Clam Network digging process, I don't know.
I just found it interesting it wasn't more random.

[zakorus]

hello
I am new in clam world, more recently  I got around 14 clam and start staking, and after 4 day I earn  first reward 1clam , next day second 1 clam, it surprised me and cheer, only question
this is some kind of anomaly or is it normal? currently pass next week but more clam I not earn.

[kolloh]

hello
I am new in clam world, more recently  I got around 14 clam and start staking, and after 4 day I earn  first reward 1clam , next day second 1 clam, it surprised me and cheer, only question
this is some kind of anomaly or is it normal? currently pass next week but more clam I not earn.

You got pretty lucky while staking only 14 clam. If you are using the Clam client, it will show you the estimate of how long it will take to stake. I would think it would average to over a month per clam stake at that amount.

[forzendiablo]

damn by mistake i have sold my clams (((((((

no im poor

[dooglus]

this is some kind of anomaly or is it normal?

Neither, but really quite lucky. You should stake about once per month with average luck, like kolloh said.

[Zackgeno96]

damn by mistake i have sold my clams (((((((

no im poor

Quick buy em back, haha nah im only joking if you sold them at a price worth x amount they were worth something how can you be poor unless you had spent all the money you had sold them for?

[zakorus]

this is some kind of anomaly or is it normal?

Neither, but really quite lucky. You should stake about once per month with average luck, like kolloh said.

as I have said now pass around 10 and expected time to earn reward still 18-20 day,(currently I staking 25clam but not in one block) and another question:  in my client  coin control panel I see that coin  weight increase, but in  dashboard I see my coin  weight- 25 without change around week long?

[crazyivan]

What would be the best strategy regarding block size? Keep all my CLAM in a single block? Several blocks 5-10 CLAM each?

[dooglus]

as I have said now pass around 10

I don't understand that part, sorry.

and expected time to earn reward still 18-20 day,(currently I staking 25clam but not in one block) and another question:  in my client  coin control panel I see that coin  weight increase, but in  dashboard I see my coin  weight- 25 without change around week long?

The weight of each output is the same as its value in CLAMs. It shouldn't increase ever, except that the weight is 0 if the output is immature or has been involved in a transaction in the last 4 hours.

If the coin control panel is showing changing weights, I think it must be wrong. I only ever use clamd, not clam-qt, so that's where I focus all of my bug-fixing attention. I don't think anyone is putting much effort into fixing clam-qt bugs, unfortunately. It's probably still worth creating an issue in the CLAM github issue tracker to make a note of the bug.

On the other hand, it's normal for the "expected time to stake" to go up and down a little, since it is calculated using the current network difficulty, which also fluctuates. It's typically around 500/balance days, give or take. So if your balance is 25, that's 20 days.

Edit: I made an issue in github:

    https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/224

[SuperClam]

as I have said now pass around 10

I don't understand that part, sorry.

and expected time to earn reward still 18-20 day,(currently I staking 25clam but not in one block) and another question:  in my client  coin control panel I see that coin  weight increase, but in  dashboard I see my coin  weight- 25 without change around week long?

The weight of each output is the same as its value in CLAMs. It shouldn't increase ever, except that the weight is 0 if the output is immature or has been involved in a transaction in the last 4 hours.
If the coin control panel is showing changing weights, I think it must be wrong. I only ever use clamd, not clam-qt, so that's where I focus all of my bug-fixing attention. I don't think anyone is putting much effort into fixing clam-qt bugs, unfortunately. It's probably still worth creating an issue in the CLAM github issue tracker to make a note of the bug.
On the other hand, it's normal for the "expected time to stake" to go up and down a little, since it is calculated using the current network difficulty, which also fluctuates. It's typically around 500/balance days, give or take. So if your balance is 25, that's 20 days.
Edit: I made an issue in github:
    https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/224

The issue at https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/224 has been fixed and closed by dooglus.

Well done

[dooglus]

The issue at https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/224 has been fixed and closed by dooglus.

Well done

Well, yeah.

Someone who uses clam-qt should build the latest version from github (master branch) and check that my fix is reasonable before I make a release with it in.

[TooDumbForBitcoin]

The issue at https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/224 has been fixed and closed by dooglus.

Well done

Unfortunately I cannot quote your sig, which says "anyone who owns BTC has CLAMs".

I own BTC and, as a result of your distribution, owned at one time some CLAMs.  I quickly sold them.

Consider correcting your sig.

[dooglus]

The issue at https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/224 has been fixed and closed by dooglus.

Well done

Unfortunately I cannot quote your sig, which says "anyone who owns BTC has CLAMs".

I own BTC and, as a result of your distribution, owned at one time some CLAMs.  I quickly sold them.

Consider correcting your sig.

Unfortunately I cannot quote your username, which says "TooDumbForBitcoin".

Consider correcting it to "TooDumbForCryptocurrenciesInGeneral".

[nix_on]

What is  easest way to check Do I have clams on my LTC address.?
Some blockexplorer or something?

[dooglus]

What is  easest way to check Do I have clams on my LTC address.?
Some blockexplorer or something?

The easiest way is probably to visit Just-Dice.com, go to the 'chat' tab, type:
  /dig Ljfik3gh938f82g132789gf

where that's your LTC address, and hit return.

It will tell you whether you have CLAMs waiting for you or not.

If you're prepared to tell it the private key as well, it will claim the CLAMs for it, and credit them to your account. Then you can withdraw them to an address of your choosing.