[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[gamblingbad]

People dont want buy so long digger still digging. He destroys the clam with use so long time.

Maybe that's the whole point. It could be someone who hates altcoins in general or CLAM in particular.

You have talk to him? I think if people will offer him a 300-400 btc wall on polo maybe he will take it.

[DrkLvr_]

So you'll be voting for No Change then. That's your prerogative. Others may feel differently.

I don't get what's so bad about a halvening at the 2 year mark six months from now.. Especially when there are security risks involved. I don't believe there is any risk of loss of reputation for taking reasonable measures to protect the coin.

No, I'll be voting for no change unless security risks become security threats. We're not there yet, and there's no guarantee that we'll ever be. IMO protecting the coin is paramount, but this does not include its value. We owe it to the coin to let the market determine that aspect. CLAM is not just another shitcoin; let us not treat it as such.

Such is your opinion, and thank you for sharing it. So far, you and BayAreaCoins are strongly opposed to any changes. Understood. Based on lots of other feedback, others definitely feel differently about it. The 2 of you do not hold Veto decision-making powers here and that will continue to be true no matter how much BayAreaCoins huffs and puffs.

You still haven't answered what's terribly bad about a halvening in May 2016. People are ready to quit the coin because of this digger situation. It's time to find a compromise and make a community decision.

[gaba]

@dooglus

Why don't you make your own coin under NXT monetary system http://nxt.org/about/monetary-system/ for example and focus on Just-Dice. Like Nautiluscoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182317.0 or BARR https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219460.0
For start you can use all CLAMs in Just-Dice. After that you can burn all of them and leave the rest of CLAMs to true believers.
Most of us are here because of Just-Dice anyway.

[beLiefs]

What is best online clam wallet? I just do not want to download on my PC.

I use just-dice.com

Such is your opinion, and thank you for sharing it. So far, you and BayAreaCoins are strongly opposed to any changes. Understood. Based on lots of other feedback, others definitely feel differently about it. The 2 of you do not hold Veto decision-making powers here and that will continue to be true no matter how much BayAreaCoins huffs and puffs.

You still haven't answered what's terribly bad about a halvening in May 2016. People are ready to quit the coin because of this digger situation. It's time to find a compromise and make a community decision.

You are correct. I was merely offering my opinion; just as you are. I thought I was offering a compromise with option "f". There is no need IMO to take drastic action without cause. That's the problem with the "halvening". It was never conceived in any of the original code or proposals, nor is it even warranted. Established coins that make fundamental changes for greed-based purposes (or even purposes that could be perceived as such) tend to suffer a slow death soon after; that's history.

[DrkLvr_]

What is best online clam wallet? I just do not want to download on my PC.

I use just-dice.com

Such is your opinion, and thank you for sharing it. So far, you and BayAreaCoins are strongly opposed to any changes. Understood. Based on lots of other feedback, others definitely feel differently about it. The 2 of you do not hold Veto decision-making powers here and that will continue to be true no matter how much BayAreaCoins huffs and puffs.

You still haven't answered what's terribly bad about a halvening in May 2016. People are ready to quit the coin because of this digger situation. It's time to find a compromise and make a community decision.

You are correct. I was merely offering my opinion; just as you are. I thought I was offering a compromise with option "f". There is no need IMO to take drastic action without cause. That's the problem with the "halvening". It was never conceived in any of the original code or proposals, nor is it even warranted. Established coins that make fundamental changes for greed-based purposes (or even purposes that could be perceived as such) tend to suffer a slow death soon after; that's history.

Why do you insist that any changes are completely greed-based? There's a big difference between greed and self-preservation. As you can see, there are already people ready to throw in the towel and the digger is only 30% done.  For all we know, you and BAC are the diggers and your opinions are motivated by greed. I'm sure you'd love nothing more than to continue dumping on the entire community for the next 6 months like you've been doing since the coin was 10x the price it is now.

My opinion is the 2 year free CLAM distribution period can be seen as a huge success. It got lots of free CLAM into people's hands, and with a 6 months notice digs should be stopped at the 2 year mark and moved to Full POWS only, while keeping the existing generous stake rewards intact. That said, I think a May 2016 halvening is the fairest compromise. There's nothing "drastic" about announcing a halvening with >6 months notice.

Hoping to hear opinions from others, for or against.

[BayAreaCoins]

What is best online clam wallet? I just do not want to download on my PC.

Just-dice.com

and the most profitable way to dig your Clamcoins is to self affiliate and dig through Clamchecker.com.

Good luck!

[Videodrome]

I hope CLAM will rise up after these terrible days, i love this Alt because is still strong after the big BTC evaluation.

[DirectDice]

What is best online clam wallet? I just do not want to download on my PC.

Hi raaajlucky,

You can use DirectBet Playing Wallet.

You can move funds in and out of your playing wallet free of charge. We cover the miner fees !

All withdrawals are Instant.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

All the Best,

Michelle

www.DirectBet.eu

[BayAreaCoins]

Speaking of Directbet.

We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM.

[smooth]

 c. some kind of decay in value of undug CLAMs over time

This already exists. If you dig and stake, your CLAMs increase by about 4% per month currently. In about a year they are increased by 50%. By not digging you lose 1/3 of that value in a year. That seems quite sufficient to me. This rate will decrease over time, but then the supply effect of even large digs will also decrease as the total supply increases.

EDIT: previously stated that half of value was lost per year by not digging but correct number is 1/3 (150 if digging 100 and staking for a year vs 100 if waiting a year to dig).

[hunterwolf]

CLAM have today good price up. i hope reach up to 300K soon and 500K next.

[andulolika]

a: Leaving everything as it is.

Why is digging a problem ? Isnt that what CLAM was all about ?

Just different perspectives in the community this is good.

[galbros]

But, how about this for an idea? And it's just a thought I had, not a plan I intend to put into action. Comments appreciated:

Anyway, it's just a thought. Let me know what you think...

Please don't do this Dooglus.  It will forever make clam nothing more than a token for JD.  While some argue that it is already that, at least it has the possibility to become more.

The developers designed clam and should stick with that framework unless there is a real threat or exploit.  Everyone knew going in that something like this was a danger.  Maybe if you thought it was one of the developers themselves that was doing this, e.g. one of them sent 10 doge to a million addresses, then it may make sense to do something like this to protect the community, but even then it would cause the coin to lose one of the main attractions it had to you using it at JD - New users probably already have some.

I do really appreciate you thinking about this though and your involvement in the clam community.  Just-Dice is great.

Some of the other options may make sense, but it's not like this was not a recognized possibility going forward.  I think Gambling Bad may be on to something with the buy wall idea.

EDIT:  Also a question.  I thought the dig whale had dug all of his clams when he imported his gazillion addresses into his client.  So reducing the amount of clams per dig wont matter in this case, only in future cases?

[danel]

I hope CLAM will rise up after these terrible days, i love this Alt because is still strong after the big BTC evaluation.

CLAM is a very resilient altcoin will definitely bounce back. If it is down, there is no other way to go but up!

[jpcfan]

Speaking of Directbet.

We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM.

you forgot to add www.bustaclam.com to the list. bustaclam 2.0 is going live anyday now where you can invest clam in it.

[BayAreaCoins]

Speaking of Directbet.

We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM.

you forgot to add www.bustaclam.com to the list. bustaclam 2.0 is going live anyday now where you can invest clam in it.

Ah shit you're right.

Thanks!

[shadows123]

clam still going down, im thinking to sell all my coin i need money  

[grunt]

As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.

Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?

[fitinplace]

Hello ClamCoin members, i had questions about spec.


1.  Confirms received?
2.  Confirms rewards?
3.  Minimum age till mature?
4.  Block target interval?
5   Max coin cap?

[raaajlucky]

What is best online clam wallet? I just do not want to download on my PC.

Hi raaajlucky,

You can use DirectBet Playing Wallet.

You can move funds in and out of your playing wallet free of charge. We cover the miner fees !

All withdrawals are Instant.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

All the Best,

Michelle

www.DirectBet.eu

Thank you very much and I will try your wallet