ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread

[captjrc]

Like someone else previously said, if you're worried about customs with large orders, just order 5 sets of 2.  If 1 or 2 get questioned, the others will still be delivered.  This wasn't my idea, but it sounds logical.

[padrino]

I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

Have you actually looked up anything you are spouting off, almost every one of your points is quite wrong.

1. Delivery times clearly posted on the site for B4 and B5.
2. You are suggesting they violate customs law by changing the labeling to something it is not?
3. Your country's customs helps dictate that, why don't you lookup your countries regulations and figure out what makes the most sense to you since the answer is different for everyone.

[Stinky_Pete]

I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

Have you actually looked up anything you are spouting off, almost every one of your points is quite wrong.

1. Delivery times clearly posted on the site for B4 and B5.
2. You are suggesting they violate customs law by changing the labeling to something it is not?
3. Your country's customs helps dictate that, why don't you lookup your countries regulations and figure out what makes the most sense to you since the answer is different for everyone.

And the people who are happy do not post on this thread.

[s1lverbox]

I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

Have you actually looked up anything you are spouting off, almost every one of your points is quite wrong.

1. Delivery times clearly posted on the site for B4 and B5.
2. You are suggesting they violate customs law by changing the labeling to something it is not?
3. Your country's customs helps dictate that, why don't you lookup your countries regulations and figure out what makes the most sense to you since the answer is different for everyone.

1. right and have no issues with that. Just saying this is not anymore from stock-but preorder.
2. by doing what? S1 was labeled "game gateway" and was fine for months, no one was violating any laws.
3. thats true and have to admit EU laws are silly.


Did anyone heard about modding s1?

[philipma1957]

I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

no miner is for sale at a better price and faster delivery.

have they slipped from the s-1 yeah  just a bit.  down the drain no.

down the drain would be what knc did from the early jupiter last nov to this years neptune.

Based on all that i can see and read. these s-3's are better then the s-2's  but not quite as good as the s-1's.

By that I mean all aspects of the miner.   I ordered 4 so far I have 2 hashing 2 on the way.  when they come I will order 2 more.

 after those 2 come I will assess my next move.  right now the mining game is very tough.

[s1lverbox]

I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

no miner is for sale at a better price and faster delivery.

have they slipped from the s-1 yeah  just a bit.  down the drain no.

down the drain would be what knc did from the early jupiter last nov to this years neptune.

Based on all that i can see and read. these s-3's are better then the s-2's  but not quite as good as the s-1's.

By that I mean all aspects of the miner.   I order 4 so far I have 2 hashing 2 on the way.  when they come I will order 2 more.

 after those 2 come I will assess my next move.  right now the mining game is very tough.

Maybe i was to harhs to say down the drain. But i compering s1 to s3 situation. And thought maybe they will do same what they done with s1.
I bought abut 20+ s1 with sushi and bitmain and never had any issues.

I still think mining is something which will make few BTC before is not profitable anymore but for small people like me is getting more difficult and will not be easier.
10 units will make roughly 3 BTC a month.

[Lowell904]

Has anyone tried over-clocking with just 2 pci-e wires? And if so how high have you been able to OC?

[iglasses]

Has anyone tried over-clocking with just 2 pci-e wires? And if so how high have you been able to OC?

I actually did by mistake...clocked one to 237.5 and it ran OK.  I put it back after realizing it was one I had not doubled up the PCI-e on yet.

[9600]

Ugh. 10 hours in and Ant1 fell to 411Gh at 218 and Ant2 fell below 400Gh as expected. I wish Bitmaintech would include an option to auto-restart in the firmware. Thinking about creating a small cronjob to do just that...

[philipma1957]

I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

no miner is for sale at a better price and faster delivery.

have they slipped from the s-1 yeah  just a bit.  down the drain no.

down the drain would be what knc did from the early jupiter last nov to this years neptune.

Based on all that i can see and read. these s-3's are better then the s-2's  but not quite as good as the s-1's.

By that I mean all aspects of the miner.   I order 4 so far I have 2 hashing 2 on the way.  when they come I will order 2 more.

 after those 2 come I will assess my next move.  right now the mining game is very tough.

Maybe i was to harhs to say down the drain. But i compering s1 to s3 situation. And thought maybe they will do same what they done with s1.
I bought abut 20+ s1 with sushi and bitmain and never had any issues.

I still think mining is something which will make few BTC before is not profitable anymore but for small people like me is getting more difficult and will not be easier.
10 units will make roughly 3 BTC a month.

yeah I am in your boat.  always less then 5-8k worth of gear.  not tiny maybe a little bigger then small.

 but these days  to be middle sized means 20th.  I can't provide 20th in terms of the power needed.

 that would be 42-44 s-3s  that comes to about 15 k-watts.  I can do 4k to 6k in the winter.  I can do 2k in the summer.

right now I am running
14 gridseed blades in my home around 1250 watts.
2 s-3's in my friends office.
1 dragon miner in china
32mh in the zencloud
a few icefury usb sticks in bitsolo.net-----------hey you never know

2 more s-3's in batch 4 when these com to my home i will be close to 1950 watts and that is about all I can do in house.

[philipma1957]

Ugh. 10 hours in and Ant1 fell to 411Gh at 218 and Ant2 fell below 400Gh as expected. I wish Bitmaintech would include an option to auto-restart in the firmware. Thinking about creating a small cronjob to do just that...

try setting them to 212.5 freq

your dc to dc convertor  gets too warm  and your hash rate drops.


Frankly anyone going above and beyond 212.5 on batches 1 to 3 is going to be sorry in about 6 weeks.

 If you want higher freq the 212.5 you will need a custom cooling solution for the dc to dc part.


 my guess would be a heat sink on it and a fan directly on it blowing air out of a hole drilled into the case.  or set the freq to 212.5

still hoping to do a pencil mod with my next 2 coming in.

These s-3's will be a world beater at freq 200 or 206.25 with a pencil mod under volt.  maybe under .6 watts a hash  say .58 watts

[faetos]

I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

no miner is for sale at a better price and faster delivery.

have they slipped from the s-1 yeah  just a bit.  down the drain no.

down the drain would be what knc did from the early jupiter last nov to this years neptune.

Based on all that i can see and read. these s-3's are better then the s-2's  but not quite as good as the s-1's.

By that I mean all aspects of the miner.   I order 4 so far I have 2 hashing 2 on the way.  when they come I will order 2 more.

 after those 2 come I will assess my next move.  right now the mining game is very tough.

Maybe i was to harhs to say down the drain. But i compering s1 to s3 situation. And thought maybe they will do same what they done with s1.
I bought abut 20+ s1 with sushi and bitmain and never had any issues.

I still think mining is something which will make few BTC before is not profitable anymore but for small people like me is getting more difficult and will not be easier.
10 units will make roughly 3 BTC a month.

yeah I am in your boat.  always less then 5-8k worth of gear.  not tiny maybe a little bigger then small.

 but these days  to be middle sized means 20th.  I can't provide 20th in terms of the power needed.

 that would be 42-44 s-3s  that comes to about 15 k-watts.  I can do 4k to 6k in the winter.  I can do 2k in the summer.

right now I am running
14 gridseed blades in my home around 1250 watts.
2 s-3's in my friends office.
1 dragon miner in china
32mh in the zencloud
a few icefury usb sticks in bitsolo.net-----------hey you never know

2 more s-3's in batch 4 when these com to my home i will be close to 1950 watts and that is about all I can do in house.

what's always fun is while we work out where to put each piece and the wife starts vacuuming and shuts it all down.

[klondike_bar]

I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

no miner is for sale at a better price and faster delivery.

have they slipped from the s-1 yeah  just a bit.  down the drain no.

down the drain would be what knc did from the early jupiter last nov to this years neptune.

Based on all that i can see and read. these s-3's are better then the s-2's  but not quite as good as the s-1's.

By that I mean all aspects of the miner.   I order 4 so far I have 2 hashing 2 on the way.  when they come I will order 2 more.

 after those 2 come I will assess my next move.  right now the mining game is very tough.

Maybe i was to harhs to say down the drain. But i compering s1 to s3 situation. And thought maybe they will do same what they done with s1.
I bought abut 20+ s1 with sushi and bitmain and never had any issues.

I still think mining is something which will make few BTC before is not profitable anymore but for small people like me is getting more difficult and will not be easier.
10 units will make roughly 3 BTC a month.

yeah I am in your boat.  always less then 5-8k worth of gear.  not tiny maybe a little bigger then small.

 but these days  to be middle sized means 20th.  I can't provide 20th in terms of the power needed.

 that would be 42-44 s-3s  that comes to about 15 k-watts.  I can do 4k to 6k in the winter.  I can do 2k in the summer.

right now I am running
14 gridseed blades in my home around 1250 watts.
2 s-3's in my friends office.
1 dragon miner in china
32mh in the zencloud
a few icefury usb sticks in bitsolo.net-----------hey you never know

2 more s-3's in batch 4 when these com to my home i will be close to 1950 watts and that is about all I can do in house.

you might underestimate how worthwhile it could be to build a shed or do small modifications that allow your miners to exhaust heat directly outdoors, and run a few 220/240V circuits to handle more hardware and improve PSU efficiency.  I did $2000 worth of work to handle an additional 10kW of equipment (closed loop cooling unfortunately) and its paid itself off already in the additional mining income

[not.you]

Ugh. 10 hours in and Ant1 fell to 411Gh at 218 and Ant2 fell below 400Gh as expected. I wish Bitmaintech would include an option to auto-restart in the firmware. Thinking about creating a small cronjob to do just that...

I am having very similar issues.  Starts off ok but hashrate sinks later.  What sucks is that its impossible to tell when it will sink, sometimes soon, sometimes it runs fine for hours.  But once it takes a dive it never recovers.  I have seen it go 7 or 8 hours after a reboot with a good rate and then tank so bad for the next 2 or 3 hours that it just kills the total average to below 400.  Pool side graphs tell the same story.  Something happens and it just chokes.

One possibility I have been pondering is a batchfile using plink.  Should be able to store credentials and insert the one command you need which is reboot.  Set that as a scheduled task and you should be able to reboot whenever you like.  I see the scheduled task tab in the miner but not sure how to use it which is what I guess you are talking about.

[agent932]

Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong    07/25/2014    4:35 P.M.    We've missed the scheduled transfer time. This may cause a delay.
Shenzhen, China    07/25/2014    10:40 A.M.    Departure Scan
   07/25/2014    1:56 A.M.    Arrival Scan
   07/25/2014    1:36 A.M.    Departure Scan
Shenzhen, China    07/24/2014    11:15 A.M.    Origin Scan
China    07/21/2014    3:50 A.M.    Order Processed: Ready for UPS

Scheduled Delivery:
    Monday, 07/28/2014, By End of Day  <<<<<----- Yeah fucking right

I had the same but it looks like it will be by the 28th (Batch 3 from 112bit)

Ontario, CA, United States    07/25/2014    11:04 P.M.    Import Scan
   07/25/2014    9:58 P.M.    Arrival Scan
Anchorage, AK, United States    07/25/2014    4:46 P.M.    Departure Scan
   07/25/2014    1:02 P.M.    Arrival Scan
   07/25/2014    7:11 A.M.    The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / Your package was released by the clearing agency.
Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong    07/25/2014    7:30 P.M.    Departure Scan
   07/25/2014    4:35 P.M.    We've missed the scheduled transfer time. This may cause a delay.
Shenzhen, China    07/25/2014    10:40 A.M.    Departure Scan
   07/25/2014    1:56 A.M.    Arrival Scan
   07/25/2014    1:36 A.M.    Departure Scan
   07/24/2014    8:06 A.M.    The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
Shenzhen, China    07/24/2014    12:21 P.M.    Origin Scan
China    07/22/2014    2:18 A.M.    Order Processed: Ready for UPS

[not.you]

Ugh. 10 hours in and Ant1 fell to 411Gh at 218 and Ant2 fell below 400Gh as expected. I wish Bitmaintech would include an option to auto-restart in the firmware. Thinking about creating a small cronjob to do just that...

try setting them to 212.5 freq

your dc to dc convertor  gets too warm  and your hash rate drops.


Frankly anyone going above and beyond 212.5 on batches 1 to 3 is going to be sorry in about 6 weeks.

 If you want higher freq the 212.5 you will need a custom cooling solution for the dc to dc part.


 my guess would be a heat sink on it and a fan directly on it blowing air out of a hole drilled into the case.  or set the freq to 212.5

still hoping to do a pencil mod with my next 2 coming in.

These s-3's will be a world beater at freq 200 or 206.25 with a pencil mod under volt.  maybe under .6 watts a hash  say .58 watts

Which part is the dc/dc converter?  Can you label it in a picture?  I have extra heatsinks and fans and a climate controlled server room.  If there is a mod that can fix this (short of replacement) I should have the means to do it.

[s1lverbox]

you might underestimate how worthwhile it could be to build a shed or do small modifications that allow your miners to exhaust heat directly outdoors, and run a few 220/240V circuits to handle more hardware and improve PSU efficiency.  I did $2000 worth of work to handle an additional 10kW of equipment (closed loop cooling unfortunately) and its paid itself off already in the additional mining income

Can you give more light on that, as i have my s1 in garden. Hidden in something like shed. Only office fan is to pointed inside to flow more air inside.

What did you improved to achieve better performance and cooling?

[9600]

Ugh. 10 hours in and Ant1 fell to 411Gh at 218 and Ant2 fell below 400Gh as expected. I wish Bitmaintech would include an option to auto-restart in the firmware. Thinking about creating a small cronjob to do just that...

try setting them to 212.5 freq

your dc to dc convertor  gets too warm  and your hash rate drops.


Frankly anyone going above and beyond 212.5 on batches 1 to 3 is going to be sorry in about 6 weeks.

 If you want higher freq the 212.5 you will need a custom cooling solution for the dc to dc part.


 my guess would be a heat sink on it and a fan directly on it blowing air out of a hole drilled into the case.  or set the freq to 212.5

still hoping to do a pencil mod with my next 2 coming in.

These s-3's will be a world beater at freq 200 or 206.25 with a pencil mod under volt.  maybe under .6 watts a hash  say .58 watts

Which part is the dc/dc converter?  Can you label it in a picture?  I have extra heatsinks and fans and a climate controlled server room.  If there is a mod that can fix this (short of replacement) I should have the means to do it.

I actually did this mod for all of my S1s and saw a 1GH inprovement across each unit. I have enough for one unit coming in on Monday so I'll go ahead and try it myself to verify.

The part you are looking for are the eight grey square "blocks" above the heat sink. There were only four-per-blade on the S1

[9600]

Ugh. 10 hours in and Ant1 fell to 411Gh at 218 and Ant2 fell below 400Gh as expected. I wish Bitmaintech would include an option to auto-restart in the firmware. Thinking about creating a small cronjob to do just that...

try setting them to 212.5 freq

your dc to dc convertor  gets too warm  and your hash rate drops.


Frankly anyone going above and beyond 212.5 on batches 1 to 3 is going to be sorry in about 6 weeks.

 If you want higher freq the 212.5 you will need a custom cooling solution for the dc to dc part.


 my guess would be a heat sink on it and a fan directly on it blowing air out of a hole drilled into the case.  or set the freq to 212.5

still hoping to do a pencil mod with my next 2 coming in.

These s-3's will be a world beater at freq 200 or 206.25 with a pencil mod under volt.  maybe under .6 watts a hash  say .58 watts

Which part is the dc/dc converter?  Can you label it in a picture?  I have extra heatsinks and fans and a climate controlled server room.  If there is a mod that can fix this (short of replacement) I should have the means to do it.

I actually did this mod for all of my S1s and saw a 1GH inprovement across each unit. I have enough for one unit coming in on Monday so I'll go ahead and try it myself to verify.

The part you are looking for are the eight grey square "blocks" above the heat sink. There were only four-per-blade on the S1

Here they are on the S1s. When they are lined up next to each other the creep from those fans flows across the board and those DC/DC heatsinks pretty efficiently.
I have 12+ running in an industrial office closet with passive intake and active exhaust.

May only be my experience, but when I installed the heat sinks it allows all of the units to go from 198-199@54 to 199-200@51.

[montyfd]

Ugh. 10 hours in and Ant1 fell to 411Gh at 218 and Ant2 fell below 400Gh as expected. I wish Bitmaintech would include an option to auto-restart in the firmware. Thinking about creating a small cronjob to do just that...

Same here. After a reboot, they start hashig to specs, the longer the run, the slower they get. Both on web Interface and pool. Not temperature related.
Strangely sometimes i have to reboot them several times to get them working good. Seems i need to hit some
sweet spot with reboot or they are slow.