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October 04, 2014, 03:27:38 PM
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Hello Bipben and miner friends,

Sorry for taking You time on this topic, but I dare to ask You for advice.
I am in mining for long time, but with GPUs, now, with HDD PoC mining, I am missing something.

I just got 8 pcs of 4Tb HDD WD40PURX sata drives.
And have motherboard for it, A88X chipset.
All drives are going to same mobo. I also got 16Gb of ram (2x8Gb).
And some low end CPU (A4-3700).
It is dedicated PoC miner machine.

I also have 280X graphic cards ans I 3770k  CPU on other comp (where I work).

What I am missing, or do not understand is this:

1) Plotting HDDs. Should I use wplotgenerator to plot hdd? Or Gpuplotgenerator? Is result same?
    Can You please tell me parametars for gpu plot for configuration on my machine with R9 graphic. Cpu ram size is actually CPU cache size (on 3770k cpu it is 8Mb)? And I have 8Gb RAM DDR3. Radeon is with 3072Mb ram. Platform 0 device 0. I know rule of plotting and done it with earlier version of Gpuplotminer on 1tb spare drive. But it is different.

2) Is 16Gb ok for mining machine, or is also 8Gb ok. On that machine will be 8x4Tb drives? And what miner to use for optimal results?


Thank You.

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Just started to use your latest miner for uray's pool2.
Just curious about the last line abbreviations, could you please tell what the sdl, cdl, ss & rs stand for, also there is some number in the small brackets  so far for me always like (0) what's that number for ?

One more request, could you please try to show the dealines (at least the best deadline) in years:days:hours:minutes:seconds format like it is shown by uray's miner ?

Best Regards & Good luck for your work.

sdl - sent deadlines
rdl - recieve confirms deadlines
ss - sent getMiningInfo to server
rs - recieve getMiningInfo from server
(0) - errors

years:days:hours:minutes:seconds format   - will done.



OK, got it. But I have an issue.



I frequently get the error message as shown in the attached screen shot & unless I click on ignore, it keeps showing no deadline, without reading any plot file!

Edit : Just read your message few posts up, NVM. Please let us know when you fix it. Thanks.

I, too, am having the same issues on only SOME of my miners.  Eagerly awaiting a fix!

FIX it, https://www.dropbox.com/s/qbtha77wq1mucgc/miner-burst-1.141003.zip?dl=0
or https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ah0se62uvz1n8t/miner.exe?dl=0

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Last edit: October 04, 2014, 05:30:04 PM by Blago
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...

Just started to use your latest miner for uray's pool2.
Just curious about the last line abbreviations, could you please tell what the sdl, cdl, ss & rs stand for, also there is some number in the small brackets  so far for me always like (0) what's that number for ?

One more request, could you please try to show the dealines (at least the best deadline) in years:days:hours:minutes:seconds format like it is shown by uray's miner ?

Best Regards & Good luck for your work.

sdl - sent deadlines
rdl - recieve confirms deadlines
ss - sent getMiningInfo to server
rs - recieve getMiningInfo from server
(0) - errors

years:days:hours:minutes:seconds format   - will done.



OK, got it. But I have an issue.



I frequently get the error message as shown in the attached screen shot & unless I click on ignore, it keeps showing no deadline, without reading any plot file!

Edit : Just read your message few posts up, NVM. Please let us know when you fix it. Thanks.

I, too, am having the same issues on only SOME of my miners.  Eagerly awaiting a fix!

FIXED , https://www.dropbox.com/s/qbtha77wq1mucgc/miner-burst-1.141003.zip?dl=0
Edit: test & report pls

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how to get gpu plot generator working I have the following ./gpuPlotGenerator plot burst address 0 1400000 4000 2 yet exe does not laod tried running though cmd with exct comand dont work

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October 04, 2014, 04:20:30 PM
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--ANNOUNCEMENT--

The http://burst.today GUI plotting/mining system is now available for public beta!!

I have yet to try it myself, but when I do, I will make another tutorial explaining how to use it. It should be fairly straightforward.

https://burstforum.com/index.php?conversations/burst-today-windows-ui-first-working-version-1-2.77/

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CHECK IT OUT NOOBIES, YOU CAN NOW MINE BY CLICKING AND NOT EDITING BATCH FILES!! THIS SHOULD BRING POWER TO THE PEOPLE, AND MONEY FROM INVESTORS! WOOHOO!


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October 04, 2014, 04:52:07 PM
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@Alex Coventry I've looked at your code. I think that the N CPU buffers are really bottleneck as it will require a lot of RAM to plot N disks at the same time, or will force the user to reduce its <staggerSize> value, thus increasing disk-stress when mining. Maybe a limted amount of rotating buffers would be enough and more RAM efficient. Maybe a stagger-less version (staggerSize = fileSize / PLOT_SIZE) of the plotter could solve this RAM issue (need some tests as it will increase IO operations).
Anyhow I will work on that part with the already implemented multi-GPU support, begining with the ideas behind your version.
What do you mean by "much faster"? Do you speak about a performance difference between the 3.0.0 and the 2.1.1 or between the 2.1.1 and your modded one?

Yes, there is a lot of room for improvement.  I only took it as far as I needed for my purposes.

You only need as many rotating buffers as it takes to max out transfer bandwidth.

By much faster, I mean faster than the same code without asynchronous writes.

Thanks for publishing your revision history.
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Does anyone know how to get around this problem as folder is their to put plot in

Initializing OpenCL devices...
GPU[0] memory: 256MB
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Creating CPU stagger buffer...
Creating CPU plots buffer...
Opening output file...

[ERROR] Unable to open plots file

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October 04, 2014, 05:48:46 PM
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Could someone please drop me market id for cryptoport shares? Been looking all around but cant really find them in this long thread :/

Asset ID : 12791182347560578640

its on "How it Works" Tab on pool web page

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October 04, 2014, 06:35:55 PM
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Could someone please drop me market id for cryptoport shares? Been looking all around but cant really find them in this long thread :/

Asset ID : 12791182347560578640

its on "How it Works" Tab on pool web page



Don't know how could I miss it... Thank you  Wink

//edit// Now, with new gui of https://burstcoin.io "Add asset" button under asset exchange tab is gone...
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October 04, 2014, 06:38:27 PM
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...

Just started to use your latest miner for uray's pool2.
Just curious about the last line abbreviations, could you please tell what the sdl, cdl, ss & rs stand for, also there is some number in the small brackets  so far for me always like (0) what's that number for ?

One more request, could you please try to show the dealines (at least the best deadline) in years:days:hours:minutes:seconds format like it is shown by uray's miner ?

Best Regards & Good luck for your work.

sdl - sent deadlines
rdl - recieve confirms deadlines
ss - sent getMiningInfo to server
rs - recieve getMiningInfo from server
(0) - errors

years:days:hours:minutes:seconds format   - will done.



OK, got it. But I have an issue.



I frequently get the error message as shown in the attached screen shot & unless I click on ignore, it keeps showing no deadline, without reading any plot file!

Edit : Just read your message few posts up, NVM. Please let us know when you fix it. Thanks.

I, too, am having the same issues on only SOME of my miners.  Eagerly awaiting a fix!

FIXED , https://www.dropbox.com/s/qbtha77wq1mucgc/miner-burst-1.141003.zip?dl=0
Edit: test & report pls


It's still the same  Sad
Not as frequent as yesterday but I got the message appeared after about 45 min of mining.
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October 04, 2014, 07:09:18 PM
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it seems people have learned how to mine.
the network has reached over 8000tb (https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/calculator).
either some big miners have finished plotting or many miners joined.
looking forward to see investors joining the same way.





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October 04, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
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Hello Bipben and miner friends,

Sorry for taking You time on this topic, but I dare to ask You for advice.
I am in mining for long time, but with GPUs, now, with HDD PoC mining, I am missing something.

I just got 8 pcs of 4Tb HDD WD40PURX sata drives.
And have motherboard for it, A88X chipset.
All drives are going to same mobo. I also got 16Gb of ram (2x8Gb).
And some low end CPU (A4-3700).
It is dedicated PoC miner machine.

I also have 280X graphic cards ans I 3770k  CPU on other comp (where I work).

What I am missing, or do not understand is this:

1) Plotting HDDs. Should I use wplotgenerator to plot hdd? Or Gpuplotgenerator? Is result same?
    Can You please tell me parametars for gpu plot for configuration on my machine with R9 graphic. Cpu ram size is actually CPU cache size (on 3770k cpu it is 8Mb)? And I have 8Gb RAM DDR3. Radeon is with 3072Mb ram. Platform 0 device 0. I know rule of plotting and done it with earlier version of Gpuplotminer on 1tb spare drive. But it is different.

2) Is 16Gb ok for mining machine, or is also 8Gb ok. On that machine will be 8x4Tb drives? And what miner to use for optimal results?


Thank You.
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1) As you seem to have a great amount of GPU power, it could be a good idea to use the GPU plotter. They both produce the same output files. The only thing that varies is the device used for plot generation.
When I speak about CPU RAM size, I mean the available amount of main memory, not CPU cache size.
2) About mining, you most likely should use one of the C ones, as they are faster and more stable in memory. With higher staggerSize values at plot generation, you will reduce the disk stress when mining.

@Alex Coventry I've looked at your code. I think that the N CPU buffers are really bottleneck as it will require a lot of RAM to plot N disks at the same time, or will force the user to reduce its <staggerSize> value, thus increasing disk-stress when mining. Maybe a limted amount of rotating buffers would be enough and more RAM efficient. Maybe a stagger-less version (staggerSize = fileSize / PLOT_SIZE) of the plotter could solve this RAM issue (need some tests as it will increase IO operations).
Anyhow I will work on that part with the already implemented multi-GPU support, begining with the ideas behind your version.
What do you mean by "much faster"? Do you speak about a performance difference between the 3.0.0 and the 2.1.1 or between the 2.1.1 and your modded one?

Yes, there is a lot of room for improvement.  I only took it as far as I needed for my purposes.

You only need as many rotating buffers as it takes to max out transfer bandwidth.

By much faster, I mean faster than the same code without asynchronous writes.

Thanks for publishing your revision history.
@fivebells I totally agree with you Smiley The only hard part is to guess at runtime which number of buffers would max out bandwidth. I think that I will make it an input parameter to be as polyvalent as possible.

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October 04, 2014, 07:22:03 PM
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@bipben

I didnt understand something with the new gpuplogegenerator 3.0.0:
Since it has devices.txt file where you should put your devices config, what should we put on our config bath file , accound ID for example.
What should be the command line order ? Smiley

EDIT:
" - globalWorkSize:  The amount of nonces to process at the same time (determine the required amount of GPU memory)." - is this the stagger size?

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October 04, 2014, 07:24:03 PM
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Could someone please drop me market id for cryptoport shares? Been looking all around but cant really find them in this long thread :/

Asset ID : 12791182347560578640

its on "How it Works" Tab on pool web page



Don't know how could I miss it... Thank you  Wink

//edit// Now, with new gui of https://burstcoin.io "Add asset" button under asset exchange tab is gone...

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October 04, 2014, 07:34:35 PM
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It's been a few weeks since I last checked in after getting everything plotted and working.  Can anyone point me to updated tools I should be using (if any)?  I'm mining on dev's v2 pool with dev's java miner.  Also, is there a working windows version of dcct's plot merger/optimizer?  I had to plot everything with like 1k stagger....guessing I should try to make that higher now that I've got more RAM to work with Smiley

Thanks for the quick update!

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October 04, 2014, 07:40:14 PM
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It's been a few weeks since I last checked in after getting everything plotted and working.  Can anyone point me to updated tools I should be using (if any)?  I'm mining on dev's v2 pool with dev's java miner.  Also, is there a working windows version of dcct's plot merger/optimizer?  I had to plot everything with like 1k stagger....guessing I should try to make that higher now that I've got more RAM to work with Smiley

Thanks for the quick update!
Just use dcct's optimize tool, it will  make each file optimal. What size are your files?
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October 04, 2014, 07:45:48 PM
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@bipben

I didnt understand something with the new gpuplogegenerator 3.0.0:
Since it has devices.txt file where you should put your devices config, what should we put on our config bath file , accound ID for example.
What should be the command line order ? Smiley

EDIT:
" - globalWorkSize:  The amount of nonces to process at the same time (determine the required amount of GPU memory)." - is this the stagger size?


@go6ooo1212 Here is the usage of the [generate] command (obtained with a ./gpuPlotGenerator help generate):
Usage: ./gpuPlotGenerator generate <path> <address> <startNonce> <noncesNumber> <staggerSize>
    Generate plots and write them to the specified directory.
Parameters:
    - path: Path to the plots directory (must exists).
    - address: Burst numerical address.
    - startNonce: First nonce of the plot generation.
    - noncesNumber: Number of nonces to generate (must be a multiple of <staggerSize>).
    - staggerSize: Stagger size.

The [devices.txt] file only contains information about your hardware. The program use it to generate plots files with the provided parameters, as for the C-plotter.

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October 04, 2014, 07:47:30 PM
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It's been a few weeks since I last checked in after getting everything plotted and working.  Can anyone point me to updated tools I should be using (if any)?  I'm mining on dev's v2 pool with dev's java miner.  Also, is there a working windows version of dcct's plot merger/optimizer?  I had to plot everything with like 1k stagger....guessing I should try to make that higher now that I've got more RAM to work with Smiley

Thanks for the quick update!
Just use dcct's optimize tool, it will  make each file optimal. What size are your files?

So there is a working Windows version?  Files are anywhere from 50gb to 900gb.  Most are about 350gb.  I have 14gb RAM, any idea what kind of stagger size I can use?

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October 04, 2014, 07:54:27 PM
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@bipben

I didnt understand something with the new gpuplogegenerator 3.0.0:
Since it has devices.txt file where you should put your devices config, what should we put on our config bath file , accound ID for example.
What should be the command line order ? Smiley

EDIT:
" - globalWorkSize:  The amount of nonces to process at the same time (determine the required amount of GPU memory)." - is this the stagger size?


@go6ooo1212 Here is the usage of the [generate] command (obtained with a ./gpuPlotGenerator help generate):
Usage: ./gpuPlotGenerator generate <path> <address> <startNonce> <noncesNumber> <staggerSize>
    Generate plots and write them to the specified directory.
Parameters:
    - path: Path to the plots directory (must exists).
    - address: Burst numerical address.
    - startNonce: First nonce of the plot generation.
    - noncesNumber: Number of nonces to generate (must be a multiple of <staggerSize>).
    - staggerSize: Stagger size.

The [devices.txt] file only contains information about your hardware. The program use it to generate plots files with the provided parameters, as for the C-plotter.

Thank you Smiley
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October 04, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
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It's been a few weeks since I last checked in after getting everything plotted and working.  Can anyone point me to updated tools I should be using (if any)?  I'm mining on dev's v2 pool with dev's java miner.  Also, is there a working windows version of dcct's plot merger/optimizer?  I had to plot everything with like 1k stagger....guessing I should try to make that higher now that I've got more RAM to work with Smiley

Thanks for the quick update!
Just use dcct's optimize tool, it will  make each file optimal. What size are your files?

So there is a working Windows version?  Files are anywhere from 50gb to 900gb.  Most are about 350gb.  I have 14gb RAM, any idea what kind of stagger size I can use?

The latest release have a Windows executeable that works for me. You don't have to worry about staggesize, the entire point of the optimize tool is to optimize the file such that the staggersize is equal to the number of nounces.
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