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Why not have a "public" slack channel for Burst, where supporters can chat, exchange ideas, get feedback back on their work for Burst, find collaborators - without being part of the dev-teams?
not a bad plan, I think I could arrange something like this. Is this something people would be interested in? Wouldn't better utilization of BurstForum be a better environment for that ? H. Slack is basically an irc chat with a bunch of added features, like archive, access levels and opportunities to share and save all uploaded content. The irc fastness in chats make people get to know each other better. The added features gives much of the functionality that a forum might offer (file sharing, topic divided sections, archive), but due to it's fastness the social interaction and sharing of drafts and sketches are less... pretentious than on a forum. There is good reason Slack raised millions in funding. No one would give a cent to develop a forum. I use Slack professionally, but I've no experience of BurstForum. Perhaps it's great, but when I got interested in Burst I found no reason to register. Just looking at the rarely changing new replies and new topics, made me sad. No speed, no interaction, no invention - as it seems. A forum does has it's function, but to invite people to the developers platform should make the community aware that they really are inventing the future of the coin. But, of course, a Slack channel could get its own problems, but why not try? |
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June 12, 2015, 09:28:12 AM |
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Why not have a "public" slack channel for Burst, where supporters can chat, exchange ideas, get feedback back on their work for Burst, find collaborators - without being part of the dev-teams?
not a bad plan, I think I could arrange something like this. Is this something people would be interested in? Wouldn't better utilization of BurstForum be a better environment for that ? H. Slack is basically an irc chat with a bunch of added features, like archive, access levels and opportunities to share and save all uploaded content. The irc fastness in chats make people get to know each other better. The added features gives much of the functionality that a forum might offer (file sharing, topic divided sections, archive), but due to it's fastness the social interaction and sharing of drafts and sketches are less... pretentious than on a forum. There is good reason Slack raised millions in funding. No one would give a cent to develop a forum. I use Slack professionally, but I've no experience of BurstForum. Perhaps it's great, but when I got interested in Burst I found no reason to register. Just looking at the rarely changing new replies and new topics, made me sad. No speed, no interaction, no invention - as it seems. A forum does has it's function, but to invite people to the developers platform should make the community aware that they really are inventing the future of the coin. But, of course, a Slack channel could get its own problems, but why not try? My first impression of slack was "Someone gave 125 mil USD for a glorified IRC client?", then I remembered that whatsapp has several billion USD valuation  We would have a simple logistical issue, we are on free slack plan and the 10000 messages limit is already severely hindering us. Adding in a chat channel for everyone would only exacerbate that issue. Standard slack pricing which removes the message limit is 8$ per user per month, I am unsure whether 'guest' accounts fall under that. If they do, it would be very hard for us to fund that. |
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catbref
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June 12, 2015, 11:16:59 AM |
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-- Burst.Ninja pool --Please make sure your miners are configured to connect to port 8124 for mining operations (e.g. getMiningInfo or submitNonce) Port 80 is only for the stats web page. VERY SOON NOW I will disable the use of port 80 for mining, enforcing port 8124 only for mining. This is to reduce load and to aid stats collection to improve future performance. Thank you!! --- Here's a provisional list of NUMERIC account numbers that still use port 80: 178127755490885889
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June 12, 2015, 02:09:01 PM |
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Why not have a "public" slack channel for Burst, where supporters can chat, exchange ideas, get feedback back on their work for Burst, find collaborators - without being part of the dev-teams?
not a bad plan, I think I could arrange something like this. Is this something people would be interested in? Wouldn't better utilization of BurstForum be a better environment for that ? H. Slack is basically an irc chat with a bunch of added features, like archive, access levels and opportunities to share and save all uploaded content. The irc fastness in chats make people get to know each other better. The added features gives much of the functionality that a forum might offer (file sharing, topic divided sections, archive), but due to it's fastness the social interaction and sharing of drafts and sketches are less... pretentious than on a forum. There is good reason Slack raised millions in funding. No one would give a cent to develop a forum. I use Slack professionally, but I've no experience of BurstForum. Perhaps it's great, but when I got interested in Burst I found no reason to register. Just looking at the rarely changing new replies and new topics, made me sad. No speed, no interaction, no invention - as it seems. A forum does has it's function, but to invite people to the developers platform should make the community aware that they really are inventing the future of the coin. But, of course, a Slack channel could get its own problems, but why not try? My first impression of slack was "Someone gave 125 mil USD for a glorified IRC client?", then I remembered that whatsapp has several billion USD valuation We would have a simple logistical issue, we are on free slack plan and the 10000 messages limit is already severely hindering us. Adding in a chat channel for everyone would only exacerbate that issue. Standard slack pricing which removes the message limit is 8$ per user per month, I am unsure whether 'guest' accounts fall under that. If they do, it would be very hard for us to fund that. The paid slack option would just not be necessary imho. I use slack free version daily where it goes beyond the 10k message limit and it has never been a problem. I highly doubt it would really be an issue for this community to "need" to see something further back which is not available. The people who are dedicated to burst should have no problem keeping up with a conversation if you check it every few days. Based on how active the forum is here it should not be an issue. If you combine the features, interface, mobile applications that are efficient when it comes to battery life it is a great tool. It is able to reach a more "general" type of user that would likely be intimidated by the IRC process which even with web interfaces is still just not that great. Developers could also have their own private channel that only is for them and a public Burst channel. Several crypto solutions use this now as an efficient way to communicate. |
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June 12, 2015, 02:51:22 PM |
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-[ANNOUNCEMENT]- Second Burstcoin.de Asset
New Asset with 50% Monthly Payout oft the Pool Fee / Highly Secure Asset Name – BdePool Pool URL – http://pool.burstcoin.deTotal number available – 2.500.000 Initial Price – 10 Burst Asset Number (ID)– 3101115594843807035 50% Payout monthly of the Pool Income made thru Pool Fees - This asset pays out 50% of the Pool Fees monthly. 50% Instant Payout to Pool Miners - 50% of the Sellprice of the asset will be instantly payed out to miners to make the pool more attractive and increase the pool fee and so the value of the asset. Max. 20.000 Burst a day. First payout is the first of Juli 2015!URL: http://www.burstcoin.de/assets/asset_bdepool.pdfGuaranteed monthly payout! Every first day of the month i will payout all assets. Regardless how long you are owner oft them. Also if you bought the assets one day before the first. Save Investment! The payouts are covered and backed by my pool system. 50% of the pool income will go to the asset holders monthly on the first day oft he month. If more miners uses the pool, the pool will find more blocks and the monthly payout per asset will go up. Instant Cashout without loss! If the Pool shuts down, then i will buyback all sold shares to a price of 5 Burst. 5 not 10 because, as written above, i will instantly payout 50% of the sellprice. So if you are a miner, you will geht instant ca. 50% of the sell price back thru pool payouts. Burstcoin.de is the name oft the german website of burst, with mining guides, best practises, how tos, a manual for beginners, example hardwares from my miners, scripts for tracking the mining tasks, news over burst, etc. and information for the german community is actually daily added. Pool.burstcoin.de is the Pool of Burstcoin.de. Hardware Dual Quad Core Xeon with 3.0 Ghz, 24GB Ram, Internet 1GBit with DDos Protectoin, Fail Safe Replicated Host with Fallback, Geo location qfrom Blago (thanks to blago for the support) Bobafett is my username in [Suspicious link removed]. I´m mining and investing in Burst since the beginning. I invested over 10000 Euros since now in Burst (bought with btc) and mining hardware. Until now i never sold any of my coins because i really belive this coin has a bright future. Bobafett is the owner oft the account BURST-AJ63-3W8L-FGBT-2ALZE. Bobafett is mining with over 160TB every day and my next miner is acutally plotting. My daily minded income of burst are between 20.000 and 30.000 Burst. See also my other asset, that pays out regularly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg11250838#msg11250838Scheduled next payment:
01.07.2015 500.000 Assets are right now for sale. Hi, Do you have an estimate for the income that might be generated per month and the dividend? I did some quick checking and guessed that 3,000,000 burst mined at 2% fee's 60,000 for June and of that, half for share holders. Maybe double for July with good growth, what are your expectations? At the moment the fees for june at at 32000 burst and last days a few big miners joined. So i think we will be at the end of the month over 100.000 burst fee, but i expect 120.000 burst. If not i will add a few burst from my privat account... |
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June 12, 2015, 04:38:17 PM |
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Why was it necessity to use Slack for the dev-teams with all these opportunities then? I'm not making a big deal out of this, it was just a simple suggestion and wont comment on it further. One could even argue that their are too many channels of communication.  |
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June 12, 2015, 06:21:16 PM |
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Why was it necessity to use Slack for the dev-teams with all these opportunities then? I'm not making a big deal out of this, it was just a simple suggestion and wont comment on it further. One could even argue that their are too many channels of communication. As you say the dev-team is a team and Slack is for team communication. Every way of communications has pros and cons. |
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June 12, 2015, 07:05:55 PM |
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Why was it necessity to use Slack for the dev-teams with all these opportunities then? I'm not making a big deal out of this, it was just a simple suggestion and wont comment on it further. One could even argue that their are too many channels of communication. As you say the dev-team is a team and Slack is for team communication. Every way of communications has pros and cons. Sorry, but I just must make a comment to that  So you know the pros and cons without trying...? Just close the channel it if it doesn't work. The world develops by trial and error, you know. |
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June 12, 2015, 07:38:50 PM |
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Why was it necessity to use Slack for the dev-teams with all these opportunities then? I'm not making a big deal out of this, it was just a simple suggestion and wont comment on it further. One could even argue that their are too many channels of communication. As you say the dev-team is a team and Slack is for team communication. Every way of communications has pros and cons. Sorry, but I just must make a comment to that So you know the pros and cons without trying...? Just close the channel it if it doesn't work. The world develops by trial and error, you know. I have never tried slack, but t sounds like it suits large groups of people who regularly communicate, a bit like IRC. Burst has a large user base, but most of them don't regularly communicate, they occasionally want to discuss something either here, or using the other existing communication channels. The communication channels mostly suit that type of occasional communication, apart from the IRC. I don't really think slack suits the type of communication used by the user base here. |
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June 12, 2015, 07:57:23 PM |
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Why was it necessity to use Slack for the dev-teams with all these opportunities then? I'm not making a big deal out of this, it was just a simple suggestion and wont comment on it further. One could even argue that their are too many channels of communication. As you say the dev-team is a team and Slack is for team communication. Every way of communications has pros and cons. Sorry, but I just must make a comment to that So you know the pros and cons without trying...? Just close the channel it if it doesn't work. The world develops by trial and error, you know. I have never tried slack, but t sounds like it suits large groups of people who regularly communicate, a bit like IRC. Burst has a large user base, but most of them don't regularly communicate, they occasionally want to discuss something either here, or using the other existing communication channels. The communication channels mostly suit that type of occasional communication, apart from the IRC. I don't really think slack suits the type of communication used by the user base here. @TurnOff, if slack is such a great idea, and it's free, why don't you create a team on it and invite everyone? Personally, i think irc does the job just great, and perhaps better if we set up some logging system. |
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go6ooo1212
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June 12, 2015, 08:00:31 PM |
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I'm using slack , and I think its really suitable.
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June 12, 2015, 08:10:22 PM |
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@Irontiga: The idea is obviously that the dev-team is interacting with the members. Communication, you know? If we setup a group that would mean two tabs/logins for the devs...  How odd that the community members seems to like the idea while the devs are negative to try something new, without any cost and with the possibility to close it whenever it does not work. I'm a bit surprised. |
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June 12, 2015, 08:13:03 PM |
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Why not have a "public" slack channel for Burst, where supporters can chat, exchange ideas, get feedback back on their work for Burst, find collaborators - without being part of the dev-teams?
not a bad plan, I think I could arrange something like this. Is this something people would be interested in? Wouldn't better utilization of BurstForum be a better environment for that ? H. Slack is basically an irc chat with a bunch of added features, like archive, access levels and opportunities to share and save all uploaded content. The irc fastness in chats make people get to know each other better. The added features gives much of the functionality that a forum might offer (file sharing, topic divided sections, archive), but due to it's fastness the social interaction and sharing of drafts and sketches are less... pretentious than on a forum. There is good reason Slack raised millions in funding. No one would give a cent to develop a forum. I use Slack professionally, but I've no experience of BurstForum. Perhaps it's great, but when I got interested in Burst I found no reason to register. Just looking at the rarely changing new replies and new topics, made me sad. No speed, no interaction, no invention - as it seems. A forum does has it's function, but to invite people to the developers platform should make the community aware that they really are inventing the future of the coin. But, of course, a Slack channel could get its own problems, but why not try? My first impression of slack was "Someone gave 125 mil USD for a glorified IRC client?", then I remembered that whatsapp has several billion USD valuation We would have a simple logistical issue, we are on free slack plan and the 10000 messages limit is already severely hindering us. Adding in a chat channel for everyone would only exacerbate that issue. Standard slack pricing which removes the message limit is 8$ per user per month, I am unsure whether 'guest' accounts fall under that. If they do, it would be very hard for us to fund that. what if you could pay in burst and we add a chat feature to the wallet? i think of a concept in which you can buy encrypted chat rooms enabled for x messages and invite burst addresses. the blockchain peers transport the data and the people running the peers receive the funds. i think of an AT for each chatroom which holds the funds and if you have transported a message you can calculate a token which you send to the AT in exchange for burst. since this is currently everything except a finalized design we would have to figure out a way to deal with such tokens. a simple concept may be that for each chatline which a wallet relays it adds its id to the transmission and each client participating in the chat sums up the token balance for each peer. after x messages were received by the chat client the wallet sends out a message to the chatroom AT which contains "encrypted" token stamps. if you as peer want to exchange your collected tokens for burst you send your current token balance to the AT as message. if your tokens match to the supplied stamps you receive burst in exchange. if not you only payed the tx fee for the message to the AT and it is some sort of lottery. I am not sure if the AT can do such verifications and wether it can be told what to do by sending messages to it. |
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June 12, 2015, 09:08:11 PM |
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@Irontiga: The idea is obviously that the dev-team is interacting with the members. Communication, you know? If we setup a group that would mean two tabs/logins for the devs... How odd that the community members seems to like the idea while the devs are negative to try something new, without any cost and with the possibility to close it whenever it does not work. I'm a bit surprised. You seem to be very unpatient my friend, maybe it's your age. You talk about it for 20 hours now and three members of the community like the idea including you of course. Not even one whole day - and you are a bit surprised? Nobody said something negative about it. |
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June 12, 2015, 09:11:22 PM |
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@Irontiga: The idea is obviously that the dev-team is interacting with the members. Communication, you know? If we setup a group that would mean two tabs/logins for the devs... How odd that the community members seems to like the idea while the devs are negative to try something new, without any cost and with the possibility to close it whenever it does not work. I'm a bit surprised. You seem to be very unpatient my friend, maybe it's your age. You talk about it for 20 hours now and three members of the community like the idea including you of course. Not even one whole day - and you are a bit surprised? Nobody said something negative about it. You right, I'll leave the subject now that you lost the argument. |
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June 12, 2015, 09:20:25 PM |
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@Irontiga: The idea is obviously that the dev-team is interacting with the members. Communication, you know? If we setup a group that would mean two tabs/logins for the devs... How odd that the community members seems to like the idea while the devs are negative to try something new, without any cost and with the possibility to close it whenever it does not work. I'm a bit surprised. You seem to be very unpatient my friend, maybe it's your age. You talk about it for 20 hours now and three members of the community like the idea including you of course. Not even one whole day - and you are a bit surprised? Nobody said something negative about it. You right, I'll leave the subject now that you lost the argument. Now now people, lets not get our panties in a twist. I have pointed out that we already had issues with the 10000 messages limit, having more people chatting would only cause more problems. However, I did not say we are opposed to opening slack up. Perhaps we could establish an additional slack just for this communication purpose. Matter of fact, dawallet proposed exactly that. I want to assure everybody that we take everyone's opinion on board. Plenty of people can verify that. |
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June 12, 2015, 09:28:41 PM |
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BURST giveaway (sort of) We are putting a game on beta which has nothing to do with BURST, but we need some players and why not help out my fellow BURST owners at the same time. Playing the game is free. There is a ranking every weekend and the top 10 on the game will win DKK cash prices (danish kroner). On top of your DKK prize of 100 to 1000 DKK ($15 to $150) if you end in top-10, i will give you the same amount of BURST as the amount of FBC you ended up earning that week.. everyone starts at 5000 and if you end up at e.g. 7500, i'll send you 2500 BURST. the leader this week is already at 18000 FBC. Note that no matter where you end up, i'll convert any FBC in the game you have more than 5000, into BURST, that i'll send to whatever address you ask me to send it to. To not run out of funds, I won't send more than 5000 to any one person, and i'll stop at 100K burst sent, as it is out of my own pocket. I will run this for two weeks, or until the 100K is gone. I am mining with 60TB and have a decent stash of BURST. There are almost no players in the game right now (about 100 registered, i'd guess about 20 to 30 playing atm.), so it is dead easy to hit the top-10. With both cash and BURST prizes why not utilize the opportunity. When our marketing department press their start button, the number of players will go so high that it will be much harder to win. You can prove you are who you claim to be, by forwarding your win email to me, and letting me know your BURST address. Game is open for all players all over the world. https://free.betonfinance.comfree to play real money to win +BURST gift from me good deal. (except for me, i'm gonna be out 100K BURST soon) the leaderboard for this week : 1 matildelaura 42 17,216 2 HeidiKG 55 14,995 3 kala 43 12,962 4 Stig 37 11,339 5 jdj 19 10,099 6 uhavenofans 55 9,257 7 lmms90 27 7,081 8 Gnisten 63 6,977 9 KimO 1 6,920 10 LeonKofoed 3 6,625 11 Nisten 5 6,526 12 Lhoenig 6 6,138 13 Linse 22 5,879 14 Kodjak 12 5,590 15 EmilW 5 5,522 16 Jeannette 4 5,168 17 pkst 3 5,085 Anyone from here? I only recognized one burster signed up, and he didn't make it.. next week i'll raise the limit per person to 10K BURST (still 100K BURST total max) |
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June 13, 2015, 06:13:35 AM |
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@Irontiga: The idea is obviously that the dev-team is interacting with the members. Communication, you know? If we setup a group that would mean two tabs/logins for the devs... How odd that the community members seems to like the idea while the devs are negative to try something new, without any cost and with the possibility to close it whenever it does not work. I'm a bit surprised. I am not against the idea, just against being the one to have to manage it |
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catbref
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June 13, 2015, 07:53:29 AM |
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I really think the wallet's Marketplace needs to be improved to show all sellers and/or all product. Right now you need to know the seller's account - how are you supposed to know that in advance? Irontiga's market browser is the only place I know where you can browse items: http://burstcoin.info/market/It would only take a bit of work to retrofit some HTML, CSS, JavaScript (there's jQuery to make you life easier). Then we could boast about having the equivalent of a $1m openbazaar as a standard feature of Burst. Also, Burst is hard enough to get into, e.g. plotting and mining, without having to download extra HTML files from some obscure place and put them in a folder to access features! Comments? |
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