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September 01, 2017, 07:53:49 AM
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YES...A complete SCIENCE COSMOGONY treatise was written by WALTER RUSSELL..in 1927..
It gives absolute correct descriptive account of the CAUSE of our SEEMING existence.
It is a TESTABLE theory..which has been verified as accurate empirically by many scientists including TESLA!!!

Tesla himself is quoted as warning Russell (They were dear friends) to lock away his cosmogony treatise for 1000 years until mankind was more mature

It gives Mankind absolute mastery of the periodic table of elements..the means to transmutation of them..

It gives mankind Infinite free electric potential.

Sadly it has and will continue to be suppressed and refuted by the powers that be and ignorant children and enemies of truth.

It is so simple and elegant anyone of reasonable mental capacity can understand it.

Most unfortunately it is so profound it is near impossible for your average person to accept it..

This is a testament to the overwhelming success the powers have had in their propaganda to deceive brainwash and hobble the average person.

Anyone following the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE path will see the crimes of mainstream science and the new emerging paradigm shift in understanding..

This Universe HAS A CAUSE....it is NOT the Big BANG bullshit of TPTB....It is ELECTRIC

All D.B Larson wrote another independent treatise on the fraud of Atomic theory...in his "Case against the Nuclear Atom"

There IS NO UNIVERSE..it is an ILLUSION of MOTION alone....

Stop killing ignoring us prophets and you can have unfathomable potential.
  



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September 01, 2017, 12:09:14 PM
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People have scientific evidence today that God exists.

Yes, but that science fiction is only accepted in a church.  In reality, when you actually discuss science, belief in a fairy tale actually is detrimental.

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Cause and effect is standard, basic science. Ignoring it like you do is a simple sign that you want science fiction rather than the truth.

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Unfortunately cause and effect does not prove god.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19666684#msg19666684



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September 01, 2017, 12:12:29 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?



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September 01, 2017, 12:38:20 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?

What do you mean by evidence? Define it. You just say I do not understand. Maybe you do not.
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September 01, 2017, 01:17:14 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?

What do you mean by evidence? Define it. You just say I do not understand. Maybe you do not.

Here is how it works, imagine you have a book written thousands of years ago where you find very accurate definitions of many things that were not even discovered at the time. Now the book also claims ghosts exist. There is no relation between the first and the second. The only evidence here is that the guy who wrote the book was very smart now you would still have to prove ghosts exist.



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September 01, 2017, 01:58:23 PM
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Cause and effect is standard, basic science. Ignoring it like you do is a simple sign that you want science fiction rather than the truth.

I don't ignore cause and effect.  Smiley

I simply accept science as being true - as you do when you use technology.

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Science is not anti-God. Phony science is. Like the ones that give you no technology. For  example a prediction of mass driven world in the universe(materialism), or evolution. And those are the only "sciences" that are anti-God. They do not even meet your own cirteria of science (they do not give you any useful in day to day life inventions). All of the rest knowingly or unknowingly support the monotheism.

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I believe that our knowledge about science is still far too little thats why we are not able to find any scientific  proof that God really exist. Come to think of it, humans can only use 10% of our brains and I think if we are able to fully use 100% of our brains then maybe we can find solid proofs that God do really exist.

It's a myth that people use 10% of their brains. It was long since refuted to be completly not true. Its easy to say its total fraud. How? Science states that unused organs are disappearing. Have 90% of people brain dissapeared? No. That means they use it. Sometimes we use 10% at the time (at amphetamine brain is triggered randomly hence more brain usage). Brain need to rest, different parts are used for different things etc etc. In other words its a myth. Like its a myth that science is anti-religious. We have evidences, quite a lot for monotheism - look up 13 posts above, I have given a biiig ass list of how science supports monotheistic world view.

But yeah... congratulations for you guys that you base your world view on disproven myths.

Special price is for qwik2learn that is not only basing his world view on myth, but he build whole theology around it. Thats seriously weird.

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Some training is needed to make fuller use of the brain. One adept was able to train his mind to move objects at a distance and was tested on camera for a television show.

These data have documented an asymmetrical change in brainwave function of the mentalist as he appeared to move a pen into a glass without touching it.
http://eegym.com/can-eeg-tell-if-telekinesis-is-a-magicians-trick-2/

The idea that the personality can survive physical death has also been observed in many instances. All of the evidence points to a cyclical form of consciousness. It is important to inquire about these ideas because the typical atheist will make the claim that consciousness arises from nothing and ends in nothing but will oddly deny that consciousness is cyclical.

Btw Pheonix is a "special" state. whoopinh 15% of mormons there - wow. You can say that so many mormons would result in believing in magic, ufos, and other silly stuff. and 45% catholics (15% on average in states). And catholics believe that they have their special saint slave that they pray to and give them gifts. No wonder they would believe in silly stuff.

You can only understand that phenomen given that mormons believe human to be Gods and have godlike powers to move objects with their mind etc etc. This quick2learn guy is just copy pasting mormon bs. And catholics obsession with death. Connect obsession in death + telekinesis of mormons = pheonix journal.

Good job with placing you journals in Pheonix, a lot of potential weird people there, believing in magic (mormons), and spirits of grandma talking to them (catholics).
You will just disbelieve the camera and the EEG? How convenient! Skeptics in this thread will agree with you that this evidence means nothing and that TK is just "too crazy" to believe. So much for science and evidence-based reasoning!
You have no rational objection to the evidence I presented! Your attacks are similar to the way that skeptics use misdirection to ignore the scientific basis of parapsychology.
You try to argue about these books but you cannot bear to hear the WORD from the Phoenix Journals then how can you call yourself rational? You just pretend to have knowledge but one cannot acquire knowledge of the content by not reading.
The main myth is to believe any one thing "too much", that means you should look at multiple sources. If you can claim that GOD wrote the Bible then I can claim that there is better evidence that GOD wrote the Phoenix Journals, as evidence for this I cite how the clarity and content of the two texts are starkly different, but you obviously have not made this type of reasoned comparison for yourself.
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September 01, 2017, 02:07:49 PM
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All proof is fake and by imagine. He doesn't exits

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YES...A complete SCIENCE COSMOGONY treatise was written by WALTER RUSSELL..in 1927..
It gives absolute correct descriptive account of the CAUSE of our SEEMING existence.
It is a TESTABLE theory..which has been verified as accurate empirically by many scientists including TESLA!!!

Tesla himself is quoted as warning Russell (They were dear friends) to lock away his cosmogony treatise for 1000 years until mankind was more mature

It gives Mankind absolute mastery of the periodic table of elements..the means to transmutation of them..

It gives mankind Infinite free electric potential.

Sadly it has and will continue to be suppressed and refuted by the powers that be and ignorant children and enemies of truth.

It is so simple and elegant anyone of reasonable mental capacity can understand it.

Most unfortunately it is so profound it is near impossible for your average person to accept it..

This is a testament to the overwhelming success the powers have had in their propaganda to deceive brainwash and hobble the average person.

Anyone following the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE path will see the crimes of mainstream science and the new emerging paradigm shift in understanding..

This Universe HAS A CAUSE....it is NOT the Big BANG bullshit of TPTB....It is ELECTRIC

All D.B Larson wrote another independent treatise on the fraud of Atomic theory...in his "Case against the Nuclear Atom"

There IS NO UNIVERSE..it is an ILLUSION of MOTION alone....

Stop killing ignoring us prophets and you can have unfathomable potential.
  




What is the evidence and what tests have been done and verified as you claim they are?



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September 01, 2017, 03:05:46 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?

What do you mean by evidence? Define it. You just say I do not understand. Maybe you do not.

Here is how it works, imagine you have a book written thousands of years ago where you find very accurate definitions of many things that were not even discovered at the time. Now the book also claims ghosts exist. There is no relation between the first and the second. The only evidence here is that the guy who wrote the book was very smart now you would still have to prove ghosts exist.

BUT God IS those things that described and defined in the Bible. The God is the governing forces that are defined in the Bible. You have wrong image of what the God is.

You think its "some ghost"? Based on what? Based on the Bible he is everywhere. And he is defined. HE IS THE LOGOS. That means the reason and laws of everything.

Someone has done you misfavour by wrongly defining God to you. Its defined in the Bible. And if science has similiar definition like Bible has - its speaking about the same thing. God as the unifying field of everything.
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September 01, 2017, 03:10:03 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?

What do you mean by evidence? Define it. You just say I do not understand. Maybe you do not.

Here is how it works, imagine you have a book written thousands of years ago where you find very accurate definitions of many things that were not even discovered at the time. Now the book also claims ghosts exist. There is no relation between the first and the second. The only evidence here is that the guy who wrote the book was very smart now you would still have to prove ghosts exist.

BUT God IS those things that described and defined in the Bible. The God is the governing forces that are defined in the Bible. You have wrong image of what the God is.

You think its "some ghost"? Based on what? Based on the Bible he is everywhere. And he is defined. HE IS THE LOGOS. That means the reason and laws of everything.

Someone has done you misfavour by wrongly defining God to you. Its defined in the Bible. And if science has similiar definition like Bible has - its speaking about the same thing. God as the unifying field of everything.

You would need to prove what the bible says it's true.



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September 01, 2017, 03:14:57 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?

What do you mean by evidence? Define it. You just say I do not understand. Maybe you do not.

Here is how it works, imagine you have a book written thousands of years ago where you find very accurate definitions of many things that were not even discovered at the time. Now the book also claims ghosts exist. There is no relation between the first and the second. The only evidence here is that the guy who wrote the book was very smart now you would still have to prove ghosts exist.

BUT God IS those things that described and defined in the Bible. The God is the governing forces that are defined in the Bible. You have wrong image of what the God is.

You think its "some ghost"? Based on what? Based on the Bible he is everywhere. And he is defined. HE IS THE LOGOS. That means the reason and laws of everything.

Someone has done you misfavour by wrongly defining God to you. Its defined in the Bible. And if science has similiar definition like Bible has - its speaking about the same thing. God as the unifying field of everything.

You would need to prove what the bible says it's true.

Define evidence ffs!

If someone has written abc is x. And there would be abc that would be the evidence for x exinstance for fuck sake..... Man.... define your terms. What do you mean by evidence? Have you read too much dawkins or what?
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September 01, 2017, 03:43:48 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?

What do you mean by evidence? Define it. You just say I do not understand. Maybe you do not.

Here is how it works, imagine you have a book written thousands of years ago where you find very accurate definitions of many things that were not even discovered at the time. Now the book also claims ghosts exist. There is no relation between the first and the second. The only evidence here is that the guy who wrote the book was very smart now you would still have to prove ghosts exist.

BUT God IS those things that described and defined in the Bible. The God is the governing forces that are defined in the Bible. You have wrong image of what the God is.

You think its "some ghost"? Based on what? Based on the Bible he is everywhere. And he is defined. HE IS THE LOGOS. That means the reason and laws of everything.

Someone has done you misfavour by wrongly defining God to you. Its defined in the Bible. And if science has similiar definition like Bible has - its speaking about the same thing. God as the unifying field of everything.

You would need to prove what the bible says it's true.

Define evidence ffs!

If someone has written abc is x. And there would be abc that would be the evidence for x exinstance for fuck sake..... Man.... define your terms. What do you mean by evidence? Have you read too much dawkins or what?

I didn't say anything about evidence. I said that you need to prove what is written in the bible is factual and you haven't. I don't care how god is defined on the bible or what he does because I don't know if it's true.



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September 01, 2017, 03:48:45 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?

What do you mean by evidence? Define it. You just say I do not understand. Maybe you do not.

Here is how it works, imagine you have a book written thousands of years ago where you find very accurate definitions of many things that were not even discovered at the time. Now the book also claims ghosts exist. There is no relation between the first and the second. The only evidence here is that the guy who wrote the book was very smart now you would still have to prove ghosts exist.

BUT God IS those things that described and defined in the Bible. The God is the governing forces that are defined in the Bible. You have wrong image of what the God is.

You think its "some ghost"? Based on what? Based on the Bible he is everywhere. And he is defined. HE IS THE LOGOS. That means the reason and laws of everything.

Someone has done you misfavour by wrongly defining God to you. Its defined in the Bible. And if science has similiar definition like Bible has - its speaking about the same thing. God as the unifying field of everything.

You would need to prove what the bible says it's true.

Define evidence ffs!

If someone has written abc is x. And there would be abc that would be the evidence for x exinstance for fuck sake..... Man.... define your terms. What do you mean by evidence? Have you read too much dawkins or what?

I didn't say anything about evidence. I said that you need to prove what is written in the bible is factual and you haven't. I don't care how god is defined on the bible or what he does because I don't know if it's true.

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You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god.

I suggest you should speak to yourself. Double speak? First you say my evidence does not count, then you say you do not mean evidence... I ask you to define evidence you say you want me to prove. So ok... define what is a proof :/.
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September 01, 2017, 03:59:28 PM
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While cause and effect is programming in nature...

... and programming means that there must be a programmer...

... cause and effect, itself, while stronger proof than any other science...

... is not scientific proof at all...

... even though it is seen throughout nature...

... and true random and spontaneity has never been seen...

... because cause and effect, and all science may not exist.

What might exist rather than science? God directing things to happen in such a way that they look like they are scientific... so that they look like cause and effect is happening.

Przemax has suggested something like this in at least one of his posts. And for all we really know, this may actually be the way that things happen. If it is, not only is evolution a hoax, but all science is a hoax, and God is really all there is.

At the moment, we are too spiritually or scientifically weak to know for a fact that this is NOT the way things really exist.

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September 01, 2017, 06:10:31 PM
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There is only evidences that One god exist, and none other.

Why haven't you presented it in almost 400 pages?

Keeping us in suspense?

Cool

Electromagnetic force is for me the better evidence. I thought inteligent people would notice how electromagnetism is accuratly described in psalm 23 and other chapters.

I actually overstimated people inteligence so I kept on searching for some more flashy argument with red and green and scientific terms that people do not understand.

Is it enough for an answer?

You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god. First of all I don't even think what you said is true but let's say it is, let's say the bible accurately describes electromagnetic force, how does that prove god is real?

What do you mean by evidence? Define it. You just say I do not understand. Maybe you do not.

Here is how it works, imagine you have a book written thousands of years ago where you find very accurate definitions of many things that were not even discovered at the time. Now the book also claims ghosts exist. There is no relation between the first and the second. The only evidence here is that the guy who wrote the book was very smart now you would still have to prove ghosts exist.

BUT God IS those things that described and defined in the Bible. The God is the governing forces that are defined in the Bible. You have wrong image of what the God is.

You think its "some ghost"? Based on what? Based on the Bible he is everywhere. And he is defined. HE IS THE LOGOS. That means the reason and laws of everything.

Someone has done you misfavour by wrongly defining God to you. Its defined in the Bible. And if science has similiar definition like Bible has - its speaking about the same thing. God as the unifying field of everything.

You would need to prove what the bible says it's true.

Define evidence ffs!

If someone has written abc is x. And there would be abc that would be the evidence for x exinstance for fuck sake..... Man.... define your terms. What do you mean by evidence? Have you read too much dawkins or what?

I didn't say anything about evidence. I said that you need to prove what is written in the bible is factual and you haven't. I don't care how god is defined on the bible or what he does because I don't know if it's true.

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You don't understand what counts as evidence for the existence of god.

I suggest you should speak to yourself. Double speak? First you say my evidence does not count, then you say you do not mean evidence... I ask you to define evidence you say you want me to prove. So ok... define what is a proof :/.

I just said you need to prove the bible is true. Let me put it easier for you, why don't you believe in other religions that are far different than yours?



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September 01, 2017, 06:12:23 PM
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While cause and effect is programming in nature...

... and programming means that there must be a programmer...

... cause and effect, itself, while stronger proof than any other science...

... is not scientific proof at all...

... even though it is seen throughout nature...

... and true random and spontaneity has never been seen...

... because cause and effect, and all science may not exist.

What might exist rather than science? God directing things to happen in such a way that they look like they are scientific... so that they look like cause and effect is happening.

Przemax has suggested something like this in at least one of his posts. And for all we really know, this may actually be the way that things happen. If it is, not only is evolution a hoax, but all science is a hoax, and God is really all there is.

At the moment, we are too spiritually or scientifically weak to know for a fact that this is NOT the way things really exist.

Cool

''While cause and effect is programming in nature...'' It's not, you are just using words for your benefit and then claiming that there must be a programmer lol. That's not how it works mate.

What might exist rather than science? If you don't know, then you don't know, argument from ignorance to say it was god.



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I just said you need to prove the bible is true. Let me put it easier for you, why don't you believe in other religions that are far different than yours?

Its you who have to define what is proof for me to able to adjust to you. There are various definitions of it. You could mean anything saying that.

Let me put it easier for you. You open the dictionary and pick your meaning of word proof, or evidence.

Unaffiliated christianity is not a religion per se. Having personal relationship with God is not a religion per se. If I would to pick a religion I would pick Greenleaf christian church. But why such a way not the other? I know a lot about every religion. They all seems to have wickedness in them mixed with the divine message, the Christ message is at least aware of wickedness of this world, and promise to solve it. How could I not believe that? If anyone believe in justice and truth its like automatic love with the message of the gospel.

I always loved the message of the Gospel, even as small child. I was decieved as you that it was all bs especially the Genesis that I was mocking. I was lucky enough to have a second look at the Bible when I had gained enough wisdom in life to know how the world is wicked and deceitful.
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September 01, 2017, 07:56:27 PM
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Its you who have to define what is proof for me to able to adjust to you. There are various definitions of it. You could mean anything saying that.

Actually, you are the one making foolish statements.  You need to define what your proof is so we can call you on it.

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Its you who have to define what is proof for me to able to adjust to you. There are various definitions of it. You could mean anything saying that.

Actually, you are the one making foolish statements.  You need to define what your proof is so we can call you on it.

Cool

I had not know you are the alt account of Astargath, but its good to know in the future.
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Its you who have to define what is proof for me to able to adjust to you. There are various definitions of it. You could mean anything saying that.

Actually, you are the one making foolish statements.  You need to define what your proof is so we can call you on it.

Cool

I had not know you are the alt account of Astargath, but its good to know in the future.

I had not know you are the alt account of Badecker, but its good to know in the future.

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