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I've heard two good analogies:
a) The Painter: If someone looked at the Mona Lisa and said that they believe that a few jars of paint somehow happened to fall onto a blank canvas that just happened to be there and that the paint just happened to fall in such a way that the painting dried as it was, would you hold that that was a plausible theory, or would you hold that the artwork was proof of the painter? b) If someone told you that the private plane in their backyard resulted from a tornado going through a junkyard and rearranging the parts in such a way that they just happened to form a plane, what would your response be?
So, to with G-d an creation. However, creation and natural balance are far more complex than either scenario provided above. To say that everything somehow just happened to form in the same way with all mutations happening in such a way as to allow for the existence of all planets and life-forms to provide for the needs of all others in such a harmonious way is even less statistically probable.
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January 11, 2018, 04:32:29 PM |
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Einsten's words about God and religion: I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p.202) We know nothing about [God, the world] at all. All our knowledge is but the knowledge of schoolchildren. Possibly we shall know a little more than we do now. but the real nature of things, that we shall never know, never. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, Page 208) When the answer is simple, God is speaking. (Albert Einstein).
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January 11, 2018, 06:02:27 PM |
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Einsten's words about God and religion: I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p.202) We know nothing about [God, the world] at all. All our knowledge is but the knowledge of schoolchildren. Possibly we shall know a little more than we do now. but the real nature of things, that we shall never know, never. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, Page 208) When the answer is simple, God is speaking. (Albert Einstein).
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in "Albert Einstein: The Human Side," edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman. "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954. Einstein was not religious and to say so is another lie used by bible thumpers to further their agenda.
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January 11, 2018, 07:39:50 PM Last edit: January 11, 2018, 08:32:53 PM by Daniel91 |
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Based on the words above, Einstein didn't want to belong to specific religion and didn't see God as personal, but he believed in the divine creation of the universe. Its something to think about.
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January 11, 2018, 08:09:40 PM |
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Einstein was not religious and to say so is another lie used by bible thumpers to further their agenda.
Time for you to learn. religious [ri-lij-uh s]
adjective
1. of, relating to, or concerned with religion : a religious holiday.
2. imbued with or exhibiting religion; pious; devout; godly: a religious man.
3. scrupulously faithful; conscientious: religious care.
4. pertaining to or connected with a monastic or religious order.
5. appropriate to religion or to sacred rites or observances.
noun, plural religious.
6. a member of a religious order, congregation, etc.; a monk, friar, or nun.
7. the religious, devout or religious persons: Each year, thousands of the religious make pilgrimages to the shrine.
religion [ri-lij-uh n]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. When you look at some parts of the definitions above, you will see that Einstein absolutely was religious... and so are you. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 11, 2018, 08:36:54 PM |
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What do you think? Please share your opinion about this article. 101 Proofs For God A growing list of common sense Proofs for God. Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer. In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution. The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. ..... Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html scientific proof that God exists... i dont think theres a way to put God into data?
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January 11, 2018, 08:38:27 PM |
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What do you think? Please share your opinion about this article. 101 Proofs For God A growing list of common sense Proofs for God. Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer. In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution. The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. ..... Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html scientific proof that God exists... i dont think theres a way to put God into data? But the data shows that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 11, 2018, 10:23:58 PM |
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What do you think? Please share your opinion about this article. 101 Proofs For God A growing list of common sense Proofs for God. Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer. In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution. The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. ..... Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html scientific proof that God exists... i dont think theres a way to put God into data? But the data shows that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) The data that I ripped apart and you had to stop posting here because of lack of arguments? I don't think so buddy.
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January 11, 2018, 10:33:37 PM |
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There could be no "scientific proofs" of religion dogmas the question is ridiculous, sorry.
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January 11, 2018, 10:55:06 PM |
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I would not consider that scientific proof. Sounds kind of idiotic imo.
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January 12, 2018, 12:35:24 PM |
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Actually, there is no scientific proof of God's existence because God is beyond science.God is all in all.In Him is the source of all things both visible and invisible
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January 12, 2018, 01:37:23 PM |
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i really doubt that they can prove that god exists i always believe that there's something greater than us, we have to realize this we are so small in this infinite universe.
The greater thing is the rules of physics and the space.
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January 12, 2018, 03:47:28 PM |
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What do you think? Please share your opinion about this article. 101 Proofs For God A growing list of common sense Proofs for God. Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer. In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution. The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. ..... Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html scientific proof that God exists... i dont think theres a way to put God into data? But the data shows that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) The data that I ripped apart and you had to stop posting here because of lack of arguments? I don't think so buddy. We're talking science here. Not your religious beliefs that God doesn't exist. Keep religion out of it, and you will see that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 12, 2018, 03:56:43 PM |
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Actually, there is no scientific proof of God's existence because God is beyond science.God is all in all.In Him is the source of all things both visible and invisible
There is no scientific proof that "nothing" exists. Sure, we as simple, common people know that empty space - nothing - exists, because we see it all around us, and we see the stars that "float" in the empty space that is nothing or nothingness. Science doesn't examine nothing. Science doesn't have a handle on what "nothing" is. But science proves that nothing exists, by measuring relationships between things that DO exist. Same with God. Science may not have any kind of a scientific "handle" on God, but science shows that God exists, even though they can't measure Him directly in any way. The scientific answer to the existence of Gos is shown in the fact that the universe is a machine full of machines. Machines have makers. Any maker of a machine as complex as the universe is God, by definition. In addition, cause and effect, entropy, and complexity (which all scientifically exist) couldn't exist in a universe the way they exist in ours without Something that fits the definition of our word "God" having put it all together. There simply is no other way, scientifically speaking. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 12, 2018, 05:50:39 PM |
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If god exist, he need put some text under this line ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) --------------------------------------------------------- There may be evidence that God exists, but in my opinion God exists in every human being, not in the real world. I respect the people who are friendly and kind because they help others overcome difficulties
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January 12, 2018, 06:04:32 PM |
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What do you think? Please share your opinion about this article. 101 Proofs For God A growing list of common sense Proofs for God. Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer. In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution. The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. ..... Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html scientific proof that God exists... i dont think theres a way to put God into data? But the data shows that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) The data that I ripped apart and you had to stop posting here because of lack of arguments? I don't think so buddy. We're talking science here. Not your religious beliefs that God doesn't exist. Keep religion out of it, and you will see that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Meh, same old response for when you don't have any arguments. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg27250935#msg27250935
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January 12, 2018, 07:58:10 PM |
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the sky and the sea are enough to prove that god exists, if you know the glass he does not create by itself because humans make it, if there are glasses that make then what about the sky and sea
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January 12, 2018, 10:34:47 PM |
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Aren't you ever going to stop posting religious stuff in this science thread? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 12, 2018, 10:42:23 PM |
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Aren't you ever going to stop posting religious stuff in this science thread? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Aren't you ever going to stop the same copy paste response instead of admitting you failed? You are better than this, come on..
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