[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Take A Horse To Water]

To be honest I think talk of DarkNet markets should be banned in this thread.

[SaKNM]

If only this thread was moderated.

Yeah, where is the mod? I enjoy lurking here, but the troll infestation is serious.

[N-rG]

That we have a high level conversation about factors influencing the price of Monero here like this (your contributions so far)

What is it with you whales? I dont wanna wait 4 months I wanna go up now!

0.008x incoming

Wouldn't it be funny if someone waited until you were fast asleep before pumping the next leg up?

Difficult to close a short when you're sleeping.

Sleep well...

Which phase is Ethereum in?

I agree,.... TrueCrypt has the best trading advice on this whole thread i think

i'll be making sure i listen to him a lot more offten from now on

[moneyLooser]

I agree,.... TrueCrypt has the best trading advice on this whole thread i think

i'll be making sure i listen to him a lot more offten from now on

  

...maybe join SCIENTOLOGY

[TheKoziTwo]

N-rG/adolf/moneylooser: I have the impression that you don't have much money and that you're chasing pennies with your trades. I wonder if you're even in profit (it's fine not to be, it takes time to learn). If my suspicion is correct, you are basically ruining a perfectly good thread for little reward. Most of us here are not chasing pennies, and we enjoy this thread. Your constant posts with lies, FUD and boasting bring very little value. Yet, we value this thread enormously (I used to read all new posts, but now it can go pages without me bothering to read). You are suffering from a delusion because you think your posts actually affect the price, and it's obvious that you post to make us buy/sell in your direction, you're trying to make money off our backs.

Fair enough, you want money.

Well I thought about this... the topic is worth something. It's worth way more than the pennies you are chasing. So here's my idea: you leave this thread alone, take all the sock-puppets with you and leave for minimum 6 months. As a reward (think of it as a price we pay to get our thread back) I will send you $300 by the end of it. That's $50 per month. What do you say?

[N-rG]

....Your constant posts with lies....

Just make proof of that....where is the lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg16650351#msg16650351

If you'll find it, I'll never post again here. You can keep the tip. Give it to a homeless one. But anyway you'll not find a lie, we all know it. I have another idea. You think my talking influence the price. I don't. So make it a win win situation. You donate 600$ to a charity for kids/animals or something "real" and i'll leave.

Moreover i cannot talk for adolf and all other claimed sock puppets. You might just have to accept that not everyone is a blind hardcore-fanboy.

[TheKoziTwo]

....Your constant posts with lies....

Just make proof of that....where is the lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg16650351#msg16650351

If you'll find it, I'll never post again here. You can keep the tip. Give it to a homeless one. But anyway you'll not find a lie, we all know it. I have another idea. You think my talking influence the price. I don't. So make it a win win situation. You donate 600$ to a charity for kids/animals or something "real" and i'll leave.

Moreover i cannot talk for adolf and all other claimed sock puppets. You might just have to accept that not everyone is a blind hardcore-fanboy.

Well there's this but I don't even want to argue with you, just thankful that you're willing to leave, I will donate $600 to Monero development, is that OK?

[N-rG]

....Your constant posts with lies....

Just make proof of that....where is the lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg16650351#msg16650351

If you'll find it, I'll never post again here. You can keep the tip. Give it to a homeless one. But anyway you'll not find a lie, we all know it. I have another idea. You think my talking influence the price. I don't. So make it a win win situation. You donate 600$ to a charity for kids/animals or something "real" and i'll leave.

What part you didn't understand?

[TheKoziTwo]

....Your constant posts with lies....

Just make proof of that....where is the lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg16650351#msg16650351

If you'll find it, I'll never post again here. You can keep the tip. Give it to a homeless one. But anyway you'll not find a lie, we all know it. I have another idea. You think my talking influence the price. I don't. So make it a win win situation. You donate 600$ to a charity for kids/animals or something "real" and i'll leave.

What part you didn't understand?

I consider Monero Development "real", but how about SENS ? http://www.sens.org/donate

Support will help us in our mission to research, develop and promote comprehensive regenerative medicine solutions for the diseases and disabilities of aging.

[N-rG]

....Your constant posts with lies....

Just make proof of that....where is the lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg16650351#msg16650351

If you'll find it, I'll never post again here. You can keep the tip. Give it to a homeless one. But anyway you'll not find a lie, we all know it. I have another idea. You think my talking influence the price. I don't. So make it a win win situation. You donate 600$ to a charity for kids/animals or something "real" and i'll leave.

What part you didn't understand?

I consider Monero Development "real", but how about SENS ? http://www.sens.org/donate

Support will help us in our mission to research, develop and promote comprehensive regenerative medicine solutions for the diseases and disabilities of aging.

Would be fine for me. May also consider this https://www.soidog.org/en/donate-today/
But it's up to you.

[TheKoziTwo]

....Your constant posts with lies....

Just make proof of that....where is the lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg16650351#msg16650351

If you'll find it, I'll never post again here. You can keep the tip. Give it to a homeless one. But anyway you'll not find a lie, we all know it. I have another idea. You think my talking influence the price. I don't. So make it a win win situation. You donate 600$ to a charity for kids/animals or something "real" and i'll leave.

What part you didn't understand?

I consider Monero Development "real", but how about SENS ? http://www.sens.org/donate

Support will help us in our mission to research, develop and promote comprehensive regenerative medicine solutions for the diseases and disabilities of aging.

Would be fine for me. May also consider this https://www.soidog.org/en/donate-today/
But it's up to you.

Thank you. Very kind of you to not take the money yourself. I want to pay with bitcoin, so I'll send it to SENS since they accept it. Will edit this post with transaction proof once I have paid.

Edit:

https://i.imgur.com/bcWJkk6.png

https://blockchain.info/address/17iLZwva9QZnrTtJzYa1r6mNHkjuPCpEuW

https://blockchain.info/tx/3759a49c97a3970d80562c19213a09c36d566367fb4b9710adc130982c890ca8

[N-rG]

Ok, I'm out.

[iCEBREAKER]

Polo had a bug... I just tried to set bids for NRG (he likes to get my money and buy something nice to him) but it ended up market buying despite I set the price below the spot...  

Always reload the page before you buy/sell on Polo.  /pro tip

Looks like it works. Now I was able to set the bids at the prices I am willing to take from the dumpers.
I wonder how come Poloniex is such a clumsy site to trade. It takes almost eternity to set orders to the markets.

I believe the 'lag accumulation' effect seen on Polo is the result of the site (and trading engine) being behind a CDN (Cloudflare) and reverse proxies.

Polo used to be even slower, and it would crash muh browsers after a few minutes or hours (after bloating RAM use to >1GB).   

[KeyJockey]

Thank you. Very kind of you to not take the money yourself. I want to pay with bitcoin, so I'll send it to SENS since they accept it. Will edit this post with transaction proof once I have paid.

Edit:

https://i.imgur.com/bcWJkk6.png

https://blockchain.info/address/17iLZwva9QZnrTtJzYa1r6mNHkjuPCpEuW

https://blockchain.info/tx/3759a49c97a3970d80562c19213a09c36d566367fb4b9710adc130982c890ca8

Wow, KOZI.... thank you, for "buying back" our thread!!!

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar indeed.  I think I speak for most everyone here in saying that was an eminently cool thing to do for us all.

Now let's hope he really stays away... fingers crossed

[PID1]

Good to sell above 0.0103

Margin short above 0.0103

Liquidate at 0.0186

Take profit 0.008888-0.009500

Gain goal: +7.5% (after costs)

Revision:
Take profit <0.009400
Gain goal: +8.2% (after costs)

Revision:
Take profit <0.009300
Gain goal: +9.2% (after costs)

Revision:
Short hold...
Gain goal: +10.2% (after costs)

Revision:
Short hold (review at 0.0087)
Gain goal: +15% (after costs)

[24Kilo]

The end of 2014 I put all my crypto wallets in cold storage and did not think about crypto until about two weeks ago. Circumstances of life took me to a place where even mobile phone service was a luxury, internet was a pipe-dream. It has been very interesting to step away from crypto for about 2 years and come back.

XMR was brought to my attention by Risto, whom I highly respect as one of the brightest minds on this forum. His posts about Bitcoin Distribution, the '(SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings' plan are brilliant and thought-provoking. I bought 55XMR at 0.004BTC, which is all I could afford, just before I left crypto in Sept. 2014. Since then the price of XMR has down to .001 and up to .025 and back again.

I was disappointed and pleasantly surprised at the same time. Pleased the price had appreciated, but disappointed that in 2 years so little seems to have been done in terms of adoption and software. Nothing seems to have really changed, XMR seems only to exist as a hedge to BTC(and has done it so well that it appears to have dethroned LTC) while daily usage has not really made any real headway. The wallet it still clunky, needing the daemon to be sync'ed before opening a barely improved wallet. Maybe I am being too harsh, but it has been over 2 years, not 2 months or even 6 months.

I was pleased to see that Risto, Smoothy, Icebreaker and a few old names are still here and supporters of XMR.

So in summary, over the past 2 days I have bought 945XMR at an average price of about .0104BTC. I am adding them to the 55XMR in my cold storage wallet.

My only question is... should I go away for another 2 years before checking on XMR again?

[Luxo]

Thank you. Very kind of you to not take the money yourself. I want to pay with bitcoin, so I'll send it to SENS since they accept it. Will edit this post with transaction proof once I have paid.

Edit:

https://i.imgur.com/bcWJkk6.png

https://blockchain.info/address/17iLZwva9QZnrTtJzYa1r6mNHkjuPCpEuW

https://blockchain.info/tx/3759a49c97a3970d80562c19213a09c36d566367fb4b9710adc130982c890ca8

Hopefully there won't be as many daily trading charts or DNM posts screenshots spamming anymore. If he's really gone that is.

Thank you very much, really appreciate what you have done sir!

[saddambitcoin]

The end of 2014 I put all my crypto wallets in cold storage and did not think about crypto until about two weeks ago. Circumstances of life took me to a place where even mobile phone service was a luxury, internet was a pipe-dream. It has been very interesting to step away from crypto for about 2 years and come back.

XMR was brought to my attention by Risto, whom I highly respect as one of the brightest minds on this forum. His posts about Bitcoin Distribution, the '(SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings' plan are brilliant and thought-provoking. I bought 55XMR at 0.004BTC, which is all I could afford, just before I left crypto in Sept. 2014. Since then the price of XMR has down to .001 and up to .025 and back again.

I was disappointed and pleasantly surprised at the same time. Pleased the price had appreciated, but disappointed that in 2 years so little seems to have been done in terms of adoption and software. Nothing seems to have really changed, XMR seems only to exist as a hedge to BTC(and has done it so well that it appears to have dethroned LTC) while daily usage has not really made any real headway. The wallet it still clunky, needing the daemon to be sync'ed before opening a barely improved wallet. Maybe I am being too harsh, but it has been over 2 years, not 2 months or even 6 months.

I was pleased to see that Risto, Smoothy, Icebreaker and a few old names are still here and supporters of XMR.

So in summary, over the past 2 days I have bought 945XMR at an average price of about .0104BTC. I am adding them to the 55XMR in my cold storage wallet.

My only question is... should I go away for another 2 years before checking on XMR again?

Sounds like a very interesting place you have been.

I would have to disagree that "daily usage has not made any real headway".

http://moneroblocks.info/stats/transactions/m/24

Improvements since end of 2014:
GUI is very close to being ready.
XMR.to (and shapeshift) allows you to easily spend your Monero at any BTC accepting place.
Mixin has now a network minimum of 2 improving privacy.
Viewkey works and is not just a concept.
Export key images with v.10 and check the balance of a cold wallet.
LMDB means you can run the wallet without sucking up all your RAM.
Ring CT in January.
Trezor implementation also workable but not exactly easy yet.

Probably more that I cannot remember, but XMR is far more usable than end of 2014.

[24Kilo]

Sounds like a very interesting place you have been.

I would have to disagree that "daily usage has not made any real headway".

http://moneroblocks.info/stats/transactions/m/12

Improvements since end of 2014:
GUI is very close to being ready.
XMR.to (and shapeshift) allows you to easily spend your Monero at any BTC accepting place.
Mixin has now a network minimum of 2 improving privacy.
Viewkey works and is not just a concept.
Export key images with v.10 and check the balance of a cold wallet.
LMDB means you can run the wallet without sucking up all your RAM.
Ring CT in January.
Trezor implementation also workable but not exactly easy yet.

Probably more that I cannot remember, but XMR is far more usable than end of 2014.

That is a nice list of improvements. From memory the wallet or daemon used to run from RAM or something as well. I presume that has been upgraded as it was being worked on when I left.

Also from memory during the time that I bought, there was an attack or threat of an attack by 'BTCExpress?' and it caused a lot of jitters in the XMR community. XMR has obviously survived, but what was the outcome, if you remember.

One of the reasons that gave me confidence to add another 945XMR to my wallet was a prediction by Risto that XMR would become the hedge for BTC. By all appearances that has come true, displacing LTC which was always considered the de facto hedge to BTC. I was very surprised and pleased to XMR trading in the top 3 BTC volume with LTC no where in sight on Poloniex.

Just as an aside note - all my BTC has tripled in value as well while I was gone. So that was a nice welcome back!

Thanks for your advise.

[nioc]

Yes the blockchain had to be loaded in RAM and I could no longer run a node.  Now the daemon uses little resources.  I synced the blockchain from scratch when 0.10 was released and it was much quicker to do so.  Although there is no official GUI yet (it is almost ready) simplewallet which is now called monero-wallet-cli has had a great deal of functionality added.  RingCT is in the current code and will be activated in Jan.  0MQ is being worked on which will help with the infrastructure needed for adoption. 

Yes we all would like things to move faster.  I do my part the only way I can by donating to development.  There were 2 very recent funding proposals that I contributed to.  Many others did as well and they were funded quickly.  Paying for a developer for Monero proper as well as a dev for the i2p implementation.  These were done using the Monero Forum Funding System.  That is something started during your absence so please add that to the list of improvements. 

Also there are more people donating their time to development. 

Welcome back!  Sorry I have no advice as to what you do from here.