[∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved!

[chillfactr]

A block would be nice. It's getting hard to justify running this pool since it hasn't even been paying for its running costs in quite a while.

maybe we should make a pot to chipin some BTC for monthly server/internet fees,

or just send it to -ck's addy
1PKN98VN2z5gwSGZvGKS2bj8aADZBkyhkZ

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

A block would be nice. It's getting hard to justify running this pool since it hasn't even been paying for its running costs in quite a while.

I would like to offer to donate to the pool to ensure ck solo stays online would be a shame to see this group to vanish.
and if my miner hits CK ill pay for 10 years

Come on Outrageously lucky block where are you?

Code:

"bestshare": 2104309706.262679,

[djcryptocat]

A block would be nice. It's getting hard to justify running this pool since it hasn't even been paying for its running costs in quite a while.

I would like to offer to donate to the pool to ensure ck solo stays online would be a shame to see this group to vanish.
and if my miner hits CK ill pay for 10 years

Come on Outrageously lucky block where are you?

Code:

"bestshare": 2104309706.262679,

Still trying! Its a looooong shot....

Code:

"lastshare": 1571100455,
 "workers": 6,
 "shares": 3826931826,
 "bestshare": 2238329837.629363,
 "bestever": 2238329837,

[MoparMiningLLC]

with only a R606 pointed here - I am not even close lol

Code:

 "hashrate1m": "1.01T",
 "hashrate5m": "821G",
 "hashrate1hr": "836G",
 "hashrate1d": "814G",
 "hashrate7d": "806G",
 "lastshare": 1571109693,
 "workers": 1,
 "shares": 379951104,
 "bestshare": 1062919031.553997,
 "bestever": 1062919031

[ailikun]

Hey, Ck.
Whats the cost of running this pool?

Lets donate for one year upfront.
I also love this pool, and dont want it to vanish.
My two s9 are still pointed here.

[-ck]

Alright, if you're all still keen for this pool to keep running, then I'll keep it going. I don't need handouts to keep it running but thanks for the offer. This, and the other pool, are pretty much only running as a service to the community now and won't ever make me money any more. If you feel like donating absolutely as a sign of support, that's a different story, and welcome.

[MoparMiningLLC]

Alright, if you're all still keen for this pool to keep running, then I'll keep it going. I don't need handouts to keep it running but thanks for the offer. This, and the other pool, are pretty much only running as a service to the community now and won't ever make me money any more. If you feel like donating absolutely as a sign of support, that's a different story, and welcome.

what I dont get is why your pool mining isnt larger - you are a zero fee there right? would think that would be huge!

[jimjam123]

Alright, if you're all still keen for this pool to keep running, then I'll keep it going. I don't need handouts to keep it running but thanks for the offer. This, and the other pool, are pretty much only running as a service to the community now and won't ever make me money any more. If you feel like donating absolutely as a sign of support, that's a different story, and welcome.

what I dont get is why your pool mining isnt larger - you are a zero fee there right? would think that would be huge!

I could not agree more.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

you are a zero fee there right?

No, as it says in the title of this thread, there is a 1% fee.

[MoparMiningLLC]

you are a zero fee there right?

No, as it says in the title of this thread, there is a 1% fee.

no at his other pool - hence the "there" part

[-ck]

what I dont get is why your pool mining isnt larger - you are a zero fee there right? would think that would be huge!

Multiple reasons, but it's proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's not fee that determines where people mine.

Inertia.
Size attracts more size.
Advertising.
Size attracts more size.
Fancy shit webshites.
Size attracts more size.
Deals with big miners.
Size attracts more size.
Trust perception (haha)
Size attracts more size.
Preconfigured pool defaults by mining companies
Size attracts more size.

You probably get the picture by now what is the most important factor, right?

[MoparMiningLLC]

what I dont get is why your pool mining isnt larger - you are a zero fee there right? would think that would be huge!

Multiple reasons, but it's proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's not fee that determines where people mine.

Inertia.
Size attracts more size.
Advertising.
Size attracts more size.
Fancy shit webshites.
Size attracts more size.
Deals with big miners.
Size attracts more size.
Trust perception (haha)
Size attracts more size.
Preconfigured pool defaults by mining companies
Size attracts more size.

You probably get the picture by now what is the most important factor, right?

size right? lol I get that. but for me it is just about trying to earn as much bitcoin as I can while needing to cash out only what I need to pay the electric so sadly that keeps me stuck mostly to the larger PPS pools so I can get regular payouts.

I loved Kano's when it was 200 ph - I would love it even more on yours if you had the size as well. But I cannot pay the bills with months between blocks - I just am not that large or have pockets that deep - sadly. I am also at my lowest hashrate ever right now, having just around 64 TH total. I hope to be back over 100 TH before the end of the year and hopefully up to 200 TH by the halving.

[-ck]

But I cannot pay the bills with months between blocks - I just am not that large or have pockets that deep - sadly. I am also at my lowest hashrate ever right now, having just around 64 TH total. I hope to be back over 100 TH before the end of the year and hopefully up to 200 TH by the halving.

That's right, and the only way to regularly get payouts is to be with a bigger pool. Back to size we go. I didn't say miners are doing the wrong thing by sticking with size, it's just a catch 22 that makes small pools even smaller. There is no way to make small pools work in the current climate any more. No one is going to move to a small pool unless they believe in the principle and don't care about the risk, and only small miners can do this. The only way to start up a new pool is if you already have a mining conglomerate planned to dump their hashrate there so usually the pool and the miners are the one entity.

The small personal home miners are dead, completely and utterly dead. The remainder of you guys that are doing it are unbelievably persistent and I salute you, but nothing can rescue mining from this situation any more, except for bitcoin falling to below $100 again causing all the big miners and mining companies to go bankrupt. None of us want that to happen to bitcoin's value (except all-in shitcoiners and forkedshitcoiners, although they don't realise that if bitcoin dies, all shitcoins die even more.) That's why, to be honest, I'm surprised I still have miners on my two pools. If you all left, I'd quietly shut them down without any regrets, but I'd feel bad for the people on ckpool.org that have been hanging in there waiting for the next block. But bitcoin has been good to me, and I'm maintaining them as a service back to the community if you want me to continue.

[djcryptocat]

But I cannot pay the bills with months between blocks - I just am not that large or have pockets that deep - sadly. I am also at my lowest hashrate ever right now, having just around 64 TH total. I hope to be back over 100 TH before the end of the year and hopefully up to 200 TH by the halving.

That's right, and the only way to regularly get payouts is to be with a bigger pool. Back to size we go. I didn't say miners are doing the wrong thing by sticking with size, it's just a catch 22 that makes small pools even smaller. There is no way to make small pools work in the current climate any more. No one is going to move to a small pool unless they believe in the principle and don't care about the risk, and only small miners can do this. The only way to start up a new pool is if you already have a mining conglomerate planned to dump their hashrate there so usually the pool and the miners are the one entity.

The small personal home miners are dead, completely and utterly dead. The remainder of you guys that are doing it are unbelievably persistent and I salute you, but nothing can rescue mining from this situation any more, except for bitcoin falling to below $100 again causing all the big miners and mining companies to go bankrupt. None of us want that to happen to bitcoin's value (except all-in shitcoiners and forkedshitcoiners, although they don't realise that if bitcoin dies, all shitcoins die even more.) That's why, to be honest, I'm surprised I still have miners on my two pools. If you all left, I'd quietly shut them down without any regrets, but I'd feel bad for the people on ckpool.org that have been hanging in there waiting for the next block. But bitcoin has been good to me, and I'm maintaining them as a service back to the community if you want me to continue.

ck,

   Its nice that you wrote the cgminer! Thank you for all you have done for the community. That said the bitcoin block find method does not seem fare, highest pool hashrate win the majority. Why can they not make a method that selects pools at random to evenly distribute the blocks between pools, no matter the hash-rates?    They may have or may now, just make sure its a sha256 coin please and ckpool gets it first!  ;-)

Im a home miner, playing the impossible lottery it seems. I choose ckpool because its stratum server is not consistently changing the diff but does sometimes very rarely, many other pools do not have that.

Just wanted to thank you sincerely for your investments trying to help others like us.


 

[-ck]

That said the bitcoin block find method does not seem fare, highest pool hashrate win the majority. Why can they not make a method that selects pools at random to evenly distribute the blocks between pools, no matter the hash-rates?   

Proof of work is bitcoin's greatest strength and its greatest Achilles heel. There is no fair way to do what you ask. Even a completely redesigned proof mechanism that attempts to do what you ask would be exploitable. This has been debated to death since its inception by much smarter people than me.

[MoparMiningLLC]

well, as long as I can make a small profit and even if i go negative - as long as its not extreme negative - each month, I will keep on going. I quit mining back in '11 and I kick myself every day for that. I wont be quitting this go around

I may even dump all my hash either here or at kano after the first until halving. we shall see.

[yxt]

Code:

"bestever": 276031029

 

[jimjam123]

Ok,
So in renting a few ph/s.
Should I rent a large >50 ph/s for a few hours hours
or
Rent <25 ph/s for 12+ hrs?

Whats the better route?

[-ck]

Ok,
So in renting a few ph/s.
Should I rent a large >50 ph/s for a few hours hours
or
Rent <25 ph/s for 12+ hrs?

Whats the better route?

It makes no difference to your chance of finding a block if you do both during the same difficulty period. However, you get to watch and hope for longer with the lower hashrate

[philipma1957]

Basically  when we did big team rentals we had 5btc and blocks were 25 coins

we tried to get close to correct $ per th rental   and if you are close enough to that  5 btc is

5/25 or a 1 in 5 shot at a block.  10 of us would put in .5 coins   we once hit 2 blocks in 90 minutes and turned 5 coins into 50.  but that was a long time ago.

if you  get a rental at 0.0000189 a th  you are close to the correct rate.

so 0.189 btc  which is more then 1500 usd  gives you about .189/12.5 shot to hit it.  that  is about 1/66 shot  if you spend that much.

It is why this pool struggles most of us do not want to drop  1500usd on a 66 to 1 shot

I am swinging  away here with a 2 board s9 see below:


http://solo.ckpool.org/users/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3