CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[bathrobehero]

I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

Have you considered a Claymore type of approach for nvidia? That has got to earn a whole lot more and once you've done it, it will keep earning for you until someone comes in an makes a faster miner which is not very likely. You really deserve way more than 2 BTC but a lot of people don't even know anything about ccminer and just following tutorials to start mining without ever contributing to you.

[chrysophylax]

I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

Have you considered a Claymore type of approach for nvidia? That has got to earn a whole lot more and once you've done it, it will keep earning for you until someone comes in an makes a faster miner which is not very likely. You really deserve way more than 2 BTC but a lot of people don't even know anything about ccminer and just following tutorials to start mining without ever contributing to you.

It requires you to dump SGMiner/CUDAMiner/ccminer (all are infected with the GPL) and write your own, full-custom. I'm working on it, but it's a major pain in the ass. It also carries risk - reverse engineering can rob you of that work in an instant, so the binaries must be hardened well.

agreed ...

as good as you are composing a well hardened locked miner - there will be someone just as good reverse engineering it ...

the open source model and 'trust' effort for sale of ones optimizations seem to be the better way of doing it ... for now ...

the best model seems simply that the dev produces - then SUPPORTS the miner and optimizations ...

take the most successful company with that model to date - redhat ...

i wish you well wolf ... although i can imagine the hell you are going through trying to get it all done ...

as i said earlier on irc ... if your miner has the stability and functionality of ccminer and the 'stats candy' of sgminer built in to a single miner - then you will have a winner ... especially if that miner can do both nvidia AND amd with the 'flick of a parameter' - so to speak ...

#crysx

[chrysophylax]

I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

Have you considered a Claymore type of approach for nvidia? That has got to earn a whole lot more and once you've done it, it will keep earning for you until someone comes in an makes a faster miner which is not very likely. You really deserve way more than 2 BTC but a lot of people don't even know anything about ccminer and just following tutorials to start mining without ever contributing to you.

It requires you to dump SGMiner/CUDAMiner/ccminer (all are infected with the GPL) and write your own, full-custom. I'm working on it, but it's a major pain in the ass. It also carries risk - reverse engineering can rob you of that work in an instant, so the binaries must be hardened well.

agreed ...

as good as you are composing a well hardened locked miner - there will be someone just as good reverse engineering it ...

the open source model and 'trust' effort for sale of ones optimizations seem to be the better way of doing it ... for now ...

the best model seems simply that the dev produces - then SUPPORTS the miner and optimizations ...

take the most successful company with that model to date - redhat ...

i wish you well wolf ... although i can imagine the hell you are going through trying to get it all done ...

as i said earlier on irc ... if your miner has the stability and functionality of ccminer and the 'stats candy' of sgminer built in to a single miner - then you will have a winner ... especially if that miner can do both nvidia AND amd with the 'flick of a parameter' - so to speak ...

#crysx

Well, no, you don't have someone as good reversing it. Not because there is no one, but because you simply need to make it not worth their time to do so.

I'm implementing a Stratum pool client first. I also plan to support getblocktemplate.

well - there seem to be people worldwide reverse engineering software 'for the fun' of it wolf ... just because 'they can' as a little project for themselves ...

look at the many many MANY things that are happening these days in the crypto world - just for the sake of it ...

im just saying that people as talented as you and sp ( and many others not mentioned ) really need some form of a payment system where you are rewarded for the amazing work that you guys do ...

there really is NOTHING in place for it ... not that i can see anyway ...

i was in a situation a while back where i volunteered my networking skills for a non-profit organization which i expected nothing in return ... what i did for free would have cost them thousands of dollars ...

what happened amazed the hell out of me ... the hand-outs i received as a thankyou was more than being paid cash ... which i promptly donated back to the non-profit organization - as i started the work with the intention of helping them ...

what im trying to say is simply this ... this non-profit organization has a SYSTEM in place for donations and handouts and things of that nature to help themselves AND others ... there is no such system for you - as developers ...

im looking at setting something up to allow for donations to be placed specifically FOR the development AND the developers such as yourself ...

this way - reverse engineer or not - you actually are rewarded for the work done ... not just in words ...

#crysx

[djm34]

I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

Have you considered a Claymore type of approach for nvidia? That has got to earn a whole lot more and once you've done it, it will keep earning for you until someone comes in an makes a faster miner which is not very likely. You really deserve way more than 2 BTC but a lot of people don't even know anything about ccminer and just following tutorials to start mining without ever contributing to you.

It requires you to dump SGMiner/CUDAMiner/ccminer (all are infected with the GPL) and write your own, full-custom. I'm working on it, but it's a major pain in the ass. It also carries risk - reverse engineering can rob you of that work in an instant, so the binaries must be hardened well.

agreed ...

as good as you are composing a well hardened locked miner - there will be someone just as good reverse engineering it ...

the open source model and 'trust' effort for sale of ones optimizations seem to be the better way of doing it ... for now ...

the best model seems simply that the dev produces - then SUPPORTS the miner and optimizations ...

take the most successful company with that model to date - redhat ...

i wish you well wolf ... although i can imagine the hell you are going through trying to get it all done ...

as i said earlier on irc ... if your miner has the stability and functionality of ccminer and the 'stats candy' of sgminer built in to a single miner - then you will have a winner ... especially if that miner can do both nvidia AND amd with the 'flick of a parameter' - so to speak ...

#crysx

Well, no, you don't have someone as good reversing it. Not because there is no one, but because you simply need to make it not worth their time to do so.

I'm implementing a Stratum pool client first. I also plan to support getblocktemplate.

actually what is infected by gpl (the detail) ?
What are the required change ? (a bit interested as well, not sure I have the time though)

[smolen]

actually what is infected by gpl (the detail) ?

I'm at Stratum code ATM, one of reference implementations by Slush is under AGPL, all other I was able to find are under GPL.

[smolen]

Yeah, all infectious. I'm using this, and writing in straight C: https://mining.bitcoin.cz/user-manual/stratum-protocol#stratum

Also, keep in mind Jansson is MIT licensed - feel free to use it!

Actually, GPL is good - in the long term. I already released some code under it and plan to use it for one of my for-fun megaprojects - and be damn sure nobody will be able to just grab it an sell. And way too protected Stratum implementation was a good excuse to spare some time to finally play with boost::asio 

im looking at setting something up to allow for donations to be placed specifically FOR the development AND the developers such as yourself ...

Probably, money will not work, people don't donate much, but the reward already is here. I have my leaps sealed with some topics and do withhold information, that makes free discussion on the edge of current technology pretty amazing, a breath of fresh air in NDA and patent infested world.

Well, no, you don't have someone as good reversing it. Not because there is no one, but because you simply need to make it not worth their time to do so.

I'm implementing a Stratum pool client first. I also plan to support getblocktemplate.

Good solution would be a pool with custom precalculations of the first steps of hash and custom miner specially for it, that way reversing will be mostly harmless

[chrysophylax]

Yeah, all infectious. I'm using this, and writing in straight C: https://mining.bitcoin.cz/user-manual/stratum-protocol#stratum

Also, keep in mind Jansson is MIT licensed - feel free to use it!

Actually, GPL is good - in the long term. I already released some code under it and plan to use it for one of my for-fun megaprojects - and be damn sure nobody will be able to just grab it an sell. And way too protected Stratum implementation was a good excuse to spare some time to finally play with boost::asio 

im looking at setting something up to allow for donations to be placed specifically FOR the development AND the developers such as yourself ...

Probably, money will not work, people don't donate much, but the reward already is here. I have my leaps sealed with some topics and do withhold information, that makes free discussion on the edge of current technology pretty amazing, a breath of fresh air in NDA and patent infested world.

Well, no, you don't have someone as good reversing it. Not because there is no one, but because you simply need to make it not worth their time to do so.

I'm implementing a Stratum pool client first. I also plan to support getblocktemplate.

Good solution would be a pool with custom precalculations of the first steps of hash and custom miner specially for it, that way reversing will be mostly harmless

well - let me know if i can help in anyway ...

#crysx

[smolen]

Actually, they CAN just grab it and sell - just not enforce more restrictions on it, nor use it in non-GPL'd code. I may release a miner shell - that is, without algorithm implementations - under a different license.

In this case the area is too narrow and the reputation costs much more than quick money. Well, anyway that project is in deep lethargy.

And that is quite a good solution, but I would prefer my miner to also work with existing pools, and solo mining. I also want explicit support for the user's ability to fuck with the coinbase tx and add custom transactions - nonstandard or not, as long as they're valid.

Smelter almost got MIT licensed code from Bitcoin core for coinbase tx manipulations, but not-invented-here-syndrome took a victory over laziness

[sp_]

The total qubit hash in the world is around 30 ghash. With the current prices around 7.5Btc is generated every day.

A kernal that does 15 mhash on the amdn280x (300%) faster could have a fee of 33% and still ppl will use it.
10mhash to the miner. 5 to the developer.2.5 btc in my pocket every day 365 days a year.To avoid gpl,
 i just need to pay 1% to pooler and 1% to christian. Ccminer for amd.

[sp_]

1% of the total hashrate of the world is an offer they can't refuse 

[sp_]

1% of the total hashrate of the world is an offer they can't refuse 

1% of the total Qubit hashrate

and quark, fresh, whirlpoolx,x15 etc..

x11 and x13 is also possible, but you've made it very difficult to optimize more with your nice binaries

[ol92]

1% of the total hashrate of the world is an offer they can't refuse 

1% of the total Qubit hashrate

and quark, fresh, whirlpoolx,x15 etc..

x11 and x13 is also possible, but you've made it very difficult to optimize more with your nice binaries

Well I hope you won't release such an amd miner qubit optimized : qubit is one the most profitable algo with maxwell nvidia : this will end as soon as an optimized amd miner is out.

[smolen]

The total qubit hash in the world is around 30 ghash. With the current prices around 7.5Btc is generated every day.

A kernal that does 15 mhash on the amdn280x (300%) faster could have a fee of 33% and still ppl will use it.
10mhash to the miner. 5 to the developer.2.5 btc in my pocket every day 365 days a year.To avoid gpl,
 i just need to pay 1% to pooler and 1% to christian. Ccminer for amd.

I'm considering it, once my miner is ready - I've a decent Qubit.

Interesting times ahead. The winner takes half of hashrate advantage over the second best miner, all other developers get nothing.

[smolen]

Yeah, I've not seen sp_ do any AMD work. CUDA is pretty easy in comparison, so I'm more worried about you beating my current 10.75MH/s per 280X on Qubit, smolen.

Without taking any obligations and disclosing too much... Quite sure that you, pallas and some other developers here are ahead of me when it comes to OpenCL. dga, Supercomputing (and other) are great at math and CS - I truly enjoy playing here, but understand my limits. For fun, brawling and such there are simple algos; we have had a nice competition with Whirlpool, may be next arena will be Skein or something else, small both in code and money, as a challenge Qubit is just too big
Talking about money, I think I see a way to milk big farms and private miners without doing any GPU code - if they are at, say, wrong local Nash equilibrium. Perhaps this idea will fail, I just have to try. Another crazy idea, eating my spare time, is smart codegenerator. Not exactly compiler, not exactly SAT. Some good code, unpublished, perhaps patentable tricks, a perspective to profit not just from mining - and nothing ready for production yet.
You see, it's possible that I'll jump in and take your profits, but I'm driven not only by money

[AliMan]

Hey sp_, seeing that VNL has hit the sky, any tweaks you think I could try out to squeeze a little more hash with the whirlpoolx algo, if possible?

[MaxDZ8]

Again, what's up with Qubit? Lots of fuss about it recently.

[AliMan]

Again, what's up with Qubit? Lots of fuss about it recently.

Yea I don't really see it being profitable at all, DGB was the best of it, but that stopped being profitable sometime back.

[totoy]

Again, what's up with Qubit? Lots of fuss about it recently.

Yea I don't really see it being profitable at all, DGB was the best of it, but that stopped being profitable sometime back.

this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006527.0

[Grim]

@ sp_ couldn't you optimize scrypt-jane algo nf 15+

you could probably sell it with

cryptonight
spreadx11

for 0.3 btc for all of them

 

[tbearhere]

Again, what's up with Qubit? Lots of fuss about it recently.

Yea I don't really see it being profitable at all, DGB was the best of it, but that stopped being profitable sometime back.

this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006527.0

Yup I missed that coin. Qubit too