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OK, people. If the ultimate desire is to rid the digital world of anything/everything Garza related, address his infrastructure.
Contact directly or via legal counsel all his service providers from electricity to web hosting to broadband and specify where in their respective terms of service agreements Garza and his operations are likely violating numerous policies as they relate to the use of the various platforms for alleged illegal activity. If he gets a new provider, contact them next.
In summary, the likes of Garza and his alleged schemes are not welcomed in this industry. Likewise, those he has hired to legally represent him could be and should be also seen as unwelcomed. Do everything you can as lawful citizens and users of the world wide web to report what you have witnessed to the facilitators of the tools Garza has used for years to orchestrate his plans.
We have the numbers to get it done and most of all, we have the knowledge and proof to state our case in an effective and legal manner. Keep up the great work.
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February 03, 2015, 06:24:06 PM |
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 No. That isn't the moral of the story. The moral of the story is carry out a realistic appraisal in relation to other crypto-assets before you invest anything and arrive at your own valuation. Back at the time you're talking about, Maxcoin's marketcap was never near what Paycoin's is now. Even at these prices, Paycoin is grossly overvalued. A realistic cap right now, given Paycoin's horrendous legacy is somewhere between Vertcoin and Monero - i.e. a million dollar cap which works out at around 8 cents per coin or 0.00035 BTC. That's the price below which you can start to "buy on the way down" with any hope of averaging out your losses. Precisely. Anyone buying this now will be a bagholder. I do not think the ht cult will pour any more money into pumps. Moral is very low with the majority resigned to their loss. It is sad reading some of the posts. There was a 40btc buy wall put up today. |
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msarro
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February 03, 2015, 06:34:50 PM |
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So, apparently folks who have hashlets still are seeing their numbers changing, as if nothing had happened and like they are still running. The users just aren't getting paid. So this would indicate 3 real options... - GAW HAS NOT turned off equipment and has commandeered user's hashpower and is using it for themselves (theft)
- GAW WAS mining and HAS turned off equipment, and what is shown is just RNG that they forgot to turn off (shady, lazy)
- GAW was never really mining, and what is shown in the UI is just RNG (false advertisement, possibly securities fraud)
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February 03, 2015, 06:37:09 PM |
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So, apparently folks who have hashlets still are seeing their numbers changing, as if nothing had happened and like they are still running. The users just aren't getting paid. So this would indicate 3 real options... - GAW HAS NOT turned off equipment and has commandeered user's hashpower and is using it for themselves (theft)
- GAW WAS mining and HAS turned off equipment, and what is shown is just RNG that they forgot to turn off (shady, lazy)
- GAW was never really mining, and what is shown in the UI is just RNG (false advertisement, possibly securities fraud)
Anything I'm missing? It's one of the last 2, the numbers in the graph are not tied to any physical hardware, it was just to make things more interesting than a static line |
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February 03, 2015, 06:49:41 PM |
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So, apparently folks who have hashlets still are seeing their numbers changing, as if nothing had happened and like they are still running. The users just aren't getting paid. So this would indicate 3 real options... - GAW HAS NOT turned off equipment and has commandeered user's hashpower and is using it for themselves (theft)
- GAW WAS mining and HAS turned off equipment, and what is shown is just RNG that they forgot to turn off (shady, lazy)
- GAW was never really mining, and what is shown in the UI is just RNG (false advertisement, possibly securities fraud)
Anything I'm missing? the numbers aren't real. they are random number generators and a database entry. always have been and always will be. |
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February 03, 2015, 06:52:24 PM |
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Hahaha mr ganza literally sold website png for money
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Mr Felt
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February 03, 2015, 06:56:32 PM |
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So, apparently folks who have hashlets still are seeing their numbers changing, as if nothing had happened and like they are still running. The users just aren't getting paid. So this would indicate 3 real options... - GAW HAS NOT turned off equipment and has commandeered user's hashpower and is using it for themselves (theft)
- GAW WAS mining and HAS turned off equipment, and what is shown is just RNG that they forgot to turn off (shady, lazy)
- GAW was never really mining, and what is shown in the UI is just RNG (false advertisement, possibly securities fraud)
Anything I'm missing? Wonder how they're able to mine in their Hattiesburg, MS data center w/o JM at the helm? |
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February 03, 2015, 06:57:23 PM |
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cyberdexterI am...less far from dropping the S-bomb, but everyone has to come to their own conclusions based on the information at their disposal. ... I meant "I wont say it". What I think or how I feel is pretty irrelevant. Bitcoinconnoisseur is just gonna twist my words around however he deems fit anyway to continue trashing me on BCtalk but that's a different story. Hi BTCcon First of all it is Bitcoinnoisseur and not Bitcoinconnoisseur. See the play on words there Bitcoin-noisseur? One would think that one who claims to be so knowledgeable would actually pay attention to details. If you did you might not be in the mess you are right now. Now to the matter at hand. Is it "I won't say it" or is it "I can't say it"? We and everyone else know the answer to that so you really need not answer it. You can not say It is a scam because you would be implicating yourself in it. However, it is a scam and you are complicit even to this day as you are still being paid by Josh. Hi CyberLIzARd. I hope you catch that one. http://forum.gethashing.com/t/xpy-paycoin-discussion/90/6451
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February 03, 2015, 07:05:31 PM |
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Wonder how they're able to mine in their Hattiesburg, MS data center w/o JM at the helm?
Miners sold, Hashlets turned off, we should probably check real estate listings for available warehouse space with electric and cooling installation suitable for mining (or weed). |
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February 03, 2015, 07:16:55 PM |
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nope just a warehouse they paid to take a photo in |
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February 03, 2015, 07:19:35 PM
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That is a question that has never been provably answered. I don't think there are very many people that believe they ever had any reasonably sized data center if any at all. J. Mordica's video proved nothing more than 2 small rows of miners somewhere. EDIT: I have always been under the impression that it was something along the lines of what Bitpop said. Somehow they visited a warehouse and had pictures taken. Whether they paid someone off or not remains to be seen. The picture could also have been photoshopped as some have suggested but I think that to be less likely. |
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February 03, 2015, 07:23:58 PM |
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Look at the ceilings, different buildings. |
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February 03, 2015, 07:24:16 PM |
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That is bitmains warehouse they went to just to take a photo in
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msarro
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February 03, 2015, 07:30:02 PM |
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That is bitmains warehouse they went to just to take a photo in
Whoa, so that's what hashnest really looks like. I'd love to visit that place just once (I've spent years working in both RDCs and APOPs). |
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February 03, 2015, 07:32:10 PM |
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That is bitmains warehouse they went to just to take a photo in
Do you have proof of this or is it just speculation? Can you show me bitmains warehouse? |
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February 03, 2015, 07:32:52 PM |
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Bitmain - Does have a US warehouse and that may be it.
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February 03, 2015, 07:40:23 PM |
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Something that was not made clear in the last few posts is that the pictures of with Josh&Joe with unboxed Zeuss miners that are not plugged in and the Bitmain warehouse are not the same place. The Bitmain place is obviosly operating and the J&J pics are just miners sitting on a shelf- no power, no network cables, no cooling, etc. I think the conclusion was that the Joe&Josh pics were taken in the GAW shipping warehouse with retail inventory that was unboxed (and then I am sure reboxed and sold after these sham pics were taken).
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All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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February 03, 2015, 07:49:50 PM |
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Wonder how they're able to mine in their Hattiesburg, MS data center w/o JM at the helm?
Miners sold, Hashlets turned off, we should probably check real estate listings for available warehouse space with electric and cooling installation suitable for mining (or weed). I think he would have seen MORE profit with Less headache if he HAD been raising weed. |
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