GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Hektur]

It wasn't a hack, it was a feature that actually worked for once.

[cryptofunk]

We felt it was important to provide general, non-specific communications as to the identity of the hackers / violators our networks, since they did not know we had discovered what they were doing. This, we felt, was precautionary and again, in your best interest.

Turning off withdrawal isn't a good enough indicator for hackers / violators?  Right...

[cooldgamer]

I guess this is what happens when you don't have somebody dedicated for security LOL

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16277/have-professional-pen-testing-bug-finding-experience-look-inside

https://archive.today/CNs07

[maku]

What is the status of paycoin guys? Is this alt will have a future? Or it is not worth investing in?

[Vlad2Vlad]

Having read the last page or so I'm baffled and left wondering how it became a "praise all things GAW" thread when initially it wasn't...

I do believe it was the Vlad character who [in just 3 days] changed the entire tone and direction of this thread.

Amazing what good rhetoric and facts can accomplish.

[owlcatz]

I guess this is what happens when you don't have somebody dedicated for security LOL

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16277/have-professional-pen-testing-bug-finding-experience-look-inside

https://archive.today/CNs07

So... Is it just gaw dumping xpy daily at this point? All this other shit is distraction it seems to me.... They have no real valid income other than used miners, correct?  

[skinnyboy]

Having read the last page or so I'm baffled and left wondering how it became a "praise all things GAW" thread when initially it wasn't...

I do believe it was the Vlad character who [in just 3 days] changed the entire tone and direction of this thread.

Amazing what good rhetoric and facts can accomplish.

Yes.  Very clever of you. Well played.  There is still not one single fact that can be produced that makes GAW look in any way credible or even remotely competent though.  As my list a couple of pages back demonstrated, there has been a long long list of failures.  Not one person has been able, yet, to produce a list of comparable length of GAWs success stories.

Not even a list half as long, for that matter.

[msarro]

So... my worthless crapstakers are now producing crapcoins I can't even sell on cryptsy because of some BS reason.

God I can't stand this company.

[jimmothy]

Yes.  Very clever of you. Well played.  There is still not one single fact that can be produced that makes GAW look in any way credible or even remotely competent though.  As my list a couple of pages back demonstrated, there has been a long long list of failures.  Not one person has been able, yet, to produce a list of comparable length of GAWs success stories.

Not even a list half as long, for that matter.

This hasn't become the "praise all things GAW" thread. If you ignore vlad (and coinmaster222), pretty much nothing has changed.

This vlad guy isn't an idiot, he's a scammer who makes a living pumping&dumping shitcoins and obvious scams. He's the type of person who would create a homeopathy business targeting senile old folks.

[strangerdanger101]

lol I take off for a few days and come back and they're already in the we got hacked stage of the ponzi marvelous things are moving along according to script



lets not mention anything to our userbase as soon as we notice the breech keep em guessing for 4 days maybe they'll think the next big thing is about to be released and pump the market so we can dump some more shit coins

[bananafana]

As my list a couple of pages back demonstrated, there has been a long long list of failures.  Not one person has been able, yet, to produce a list of comparable length of GAWs success stories.

Not even a list half as long, for that matter.

Is there even one thing that Josh did competently with regard to paycoin/paybase? Anything at all? What he delivered was a broken, hyper-inflating peercoin clone that is massively overpriced at it's current price and twelve million dollar market cap.

Of course we still need to wait to see what his super secret "muuuhhh" project is, developed with multiple software development teams around the world and scheduled to launch in beta in less than two weeks and guaranteed to revolutionize the entire industry! No way that will turn out to be yet another in a long string of fizzles and failures, right?

[not.you]

They have no real valid income other than used miners, correct?  

I'm not sure about even that.  Their website is all jacked up so if you actually tried to go put a miner in your cart you have just a couple of options (after clicking around quite a bit to find them):
-the rockminer at $400 for 470 Gh/s
-a bundle of five of those ancient gridseed dual miners that do 300 Kh/s scrypt and not even enough SHA256 to produce BTC dust for $30
-an innosilicon A2 at a massively overpriced $4k

And that's it.  You can also purchase various overpriced accessories or used PSU's or this: http://www.gawminers.com/collections/all/products/test but essentially nothing anyone in their right mind should be buying.  In fact the whole web store looks to have been messed up by some amateur web admin and never fixed.  And it's been that way for at least a week.

[suchmoon]

Is there even one thing that Josh did competently with regard to paycoin/paybase? Anything at all? What he delivered was a broken, hyper-inflating peercoin clone that is massively overpriced at it's current price and twelve million dollar market cap.

Well there's your answer. The one thing they did really well was hype. Especially well targeted at their captive audience on HT.

[truckinusa]

Just a theory, but any time the website is down is a time where GAW doesn't have to compete with staked coin sales.  They can pump and dump at will since there is no pressure from staked coins.  They threw out a little carrot saying new features on the way so the mystery and hype is keeping the price steady along with the fact that newly staked coins are not accessible.

[truckinusa]

A scam within a scam?  You don't say!  https://hashtalk.org/topic/31220/warning-about-user-thunderfan-xpylotto/4

Looks like thunderfan scammed him a bunch of bitcoin.  Homero lookout!  You have competition.

[cryptofunk]

What happened to that reporter guy asking for questions to be answered by Josh three weeks ago?  Never happened?

Ref:

If anyone has legitimate questions they would like to ask Josh Garza, go here and fill out the form:  http://coinbrief.net/questions-for-gaw-crowdsourced/ 

Please make sure that the questions you are sending are legitimate...as in, there is evidence to show that something GAW has said was wrong, there are documents / images that have not been addressed, etc.

Josh reached out to me after our last article, and when I asked if he would be willing to answer questions, and provide evidence to back it up, he agreed.  So, I'm crowdsourcing it.

[-Redacted-]

A scam within a scam?  You don't say!  https://hashtalk.org/topic/31220/warning-about-user-thunderfan-xpylotto/4

Looks like thunderfan scammed him a bunch of bitcoin.  Homero lookout!  You have competition.

Given the critical thinking skills of the remaining posters at HT - people who think a PONZI is a great investment if you're careful enough, or that getting hacked and having your financial websites shut down for a week is a feature  - this shouldn't be surprising.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Yes.  Very clever of you. Well played.  There is still not one single fact that can be produced that makes GAW look in any way credible or even remotely competent though.  As my list a couple of pages back demonstrated, there has been a long long list of failures.  Not one person has been able, yet, to produce a list of comparable length of GAWs success stories.

Not even a list half as long, for that matter.

This hasn't become the "praise all things GAW" thread. If you ignore vlad (and coinmaster222), pretty much nothing has changed.

This vlad guy isn't an idiot, he's a scammer who makes a living pumping&dumping shitcoins and obvious scams. He's the type of person who would create a homeopathy business targeting senile old folks.

Hahahaa.  That was actually funny.  I don't target anyone to be honest.  I just think XPY is a good buy here and I simply use the same observations which convinced me to convince others.  It's that simple - if I believe in something there must be a reason and I just have to articulate those observations well enough for others to believe as well.

[SDRebel]

are we on to the next step?  The "We got hacked" step lol.

It says the coins were protected 

TBH I'm having trouble reconciling that post. If they caught it early there shouldn't be much "verification" needed. Worst case, restore last known good backup and replay known good transactions. Either they don't have a clue when and how the attack started or the whole thing is made up. To shut it down for a week is a truly confidence-inspiring act by a wannabe financial institution boasting to change the "industry".

Maybe it's like the infamous 1mh-prime-is-really-25Mh fiasco...where supposedly they lost a lot of money...
I was just thinking about that one yesterday (another conspiracy theory)

[sburn]

I just think XPY is a good buy here and I simply use the same observations which convinced me to convince others. 

Why do you feel this need to "convince others"?