GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[seriousInvest]

So what's new? Haven't been around in weeks as it just seemed like the same old b.s. from Ganza. What is this about terrorism?

Mr. Ganza (Paycoin hero) is taking much deserving rest on sideline. New head of cheese is formidable Mr. Dorkman.

[rawbot]

So what's new? Haven't been around in weeks as it just seemed like the same old b.s. from Ganza. What is this about terrorism?

The recent coinfire article is a good place to catch up
http://coinfire.io/2015/03/06/coin-fire-gaw-miners-catches-sec-ftc-irs-dhs-attention/

[strangerdanger101]

So what's new? Haven't been around in weeks as it just seemed like the same old b.s. from Ganza. What is this about terrorism?

Allegedly there may be reports of money laundering to ISIS although I'm not ready to jump onto that rummor train yet. Now allow me to wash your eyes with a funny cat gif.

[cryptodevil]

"DHS documents detail an alleged money-laundering operation with Mr. Garza at the center accepting funds “off the books” for XPY from individuals on current banking watch-lists related to anti-terrorism banking issues. DHS also has prepared several draft subpoenas to potentially be issued to those affiliated with the banking relationships of Mr. Garza, including a subpoena for emails from a TD Bank manager named Brian Bedore."

I wonder where Homero got the introductions from for these High-Net-Worth individuals with banking problems. Perhaps from a company he has a connection to that specialises in dealing with High-Net-Worth individuals?

Any guesses?

[5ick3uffalo]

A thought.

Now that the authorities are? on the case, they may have requested all exchanges and financial/coin services operated by GAW to freeze.

I think the "Sized by" pictures are not very far away for their websites (paybase) if this is true.

Looks like Mr.Ganza did no background checks whatsoever when accepted money for XPY.

And some of the customers were on banking watchlists who did send Mr.Ganza money for PayCoins.

If that is true , which it likely is, i would try to move out funds out of paybase and sell my coins as fast as i could.

[vizique]

"DHS documents detail an alleged money-laundering operation with Mr. Garza at the center accepting funds “off the books” for XPY from individuals on current banking watch-lists related to anti-terrorism banking issues. DHS also has prepared several draft subpoenas to potentially be issued to those affiliated with the banking relationships of Mr. Garza, including a subpoena for emails from a TD Bank manager named Brian Bedore."

I wonder where Homero got the introductions from for these High-Net-Worth individuals with banking problems. Perhaps from a company he has a connection to that specialises in dealing with High-Net-Worth individuals?

Any guesses?

I know of who you speak!  Oh my, this really is a "potentially" deeper rabbit hole. That bit about 3 degrees of separation. Some people are going to be hearing a lot of echo on the line in the coming future.

Guessing there's some blue air in the city today

[rawbot]

GAWsome!  Man, I just read the whole CF article, and then fired up BTC wisdom to check XPY price and it's up? WTF? The titanic analogy is spot on perfect, you win the entire internet for today, my good man!

They are totally blind to facts and Reason

[Mr Felt]

"DHS documents detail an alleged money-laundering operation with Mr. Garza at the center accepting funds “off the books” for XPY from individuals on current banking watch-lists related to anti-terrorism banking issues. DHS also has prepared several draft subpoenas to potentially be issued to those affiliated with the banking relationships of Mr. Garza, including a subpoena for emails from a TD Bank manager named Brian Bedore."

I wonder where Homero got the introductions from for these High-Net-Worth individuals with banking problems. Perhaps from a company he has a connection to that specialises in dealing with High-Net-Worth individuals?

Any guesses?

The Coinfire article was a trip. Lets say that it is true that GAW was making deals that they knew would benefit terrorist organizations. Lets also say that its true that Cantor Fitz was more involved than perviously thought and had some knowledge, or should have had some knowledge, of the deals GAW was making w/ folks having terror ties.  Then, truth is stranger than fiction in this case given what happened to Cantor in September 2001. 

[wpstudio]

Much easier to lock a thread than to answer a thread.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/33250/so-now-non-posting-accounts-are-now-banned

[rawbot]

Then, truth is stranger than fiction in this case given what happened to Cantor in September 2001. 

Yes, Cantor Fitzgeral lost 648 employees that day, about 90% of the workforce.  I remember the CEO, Howard Lutnick crying on TV about the 700 families of the victims.

Four days after the attacks he stopped all 648 wages.

[vizique]

Ah man! That was a dark day ....

This whole thing just gets messier. I have a picture in my mind of people hearing/reading all this and their faces draining of blood in shock/horror and fear as the potential of all this sinks in.

We know to be even "thought" to be on a terrorism pathway gains you attention. To have this stuff proven would be cataclysmic for some people, not least because of former pains.

A lot of good people are being and going to be burned, emotionally, professionally and we know financially should all these allegations and reports prove to be true. I admit to being ever more shocked at how this is playing out.

[keshuker]

A thought.

Now that the authorities are? on the case, they may have requested all exchanges and financial/coin services operated by GAW to freeze.

This could be to prevent any further funding of .... ?

Based on the Coinfire article, anything at this point is possible! Should it prove to be entirely true, and odds are good it is, then this horror story has much yet to deliver. However, the money also may evaporate overnight as systems get shut down by Govt order.

Speculation for sure! But knowing the voracious attitude of the US authorities I wouldn't put much past them to act now the ball is rolling!

This is very plausible considering the facts we got from the emails and how far the authorities are in the investigations. Well today is friday, I think i saw somewhere that they would let the victims move their coins again on friday?

[vizique]

A thought.

Now that the authorities are? on the case, they may have requested all exchanges and financial/coin services operated by GAW to freeze.

This could be to prevent any further funding of .... ?

Based on the Coinfire article, anything at this point is possible! Should it prove to be entirely true, and odds are good it is, then this horror story has much yet to deliver. However, the money also may evaporate overnight as systems get shut down by Govt order.

Speculation for sure! But knowing the voracious attitude of the US authorities I wouldn't put much past them to act now the ball is rolling!

This is very plausible considering the facts we got from the emails and how far the authorities are in the investigations. Well today is friday, I think i saw somewhere that they would let the victims move their coins again on friday?

Dang! I forgot, things always seize up on a Friday!!

Then sometimes around Tuesday is a message asking for patience, then a brief window, if at all, appears to remove some funds...

Silly me

[WaffleMaster]

My guess is Cantor Fitzgerald puts a contract on Homero's head. They're in too deep now. Dead men tell no tales. Their funding of terror is exposed. Welcome to the financial mafia.

[cryptodevil]

I see Cantor's Mr Fraser has removed his @GTAUKSTER Twitter acccount that had been posting supporting comments for XPY, such as:

Stuart Fraser ‏GTAUKSTER Dec 15
Still would like a Black PayCoin Card! #OldSchool

[Paul Revere]

On a lighter note, this odd message popped up on CoinSwap:


Paybase frozen for a week, and now Coinswap giving this odd warning. An advance warning of a shutdown perhaps? At this point it is hard to feel bad for any fools that still choose to leave their $/BTC in Homeros greedy, fraud soaked hands.

[kken01]

very dark turn indeed. Paul to the rescue  


on HT they spin that message this way: normal boilerplate (legal shield)

i woudnt touch anything with such comments with a long stick  

[strangerdanger101]

On a lighter note, this odd message popped up on CoinSwap:
https://i.imgur.com/1R4KE6X.gif

Paybase frozen for a week, and now Coinswap giving this odd warning. An advance warning of a shutdown perhaps? At this point it is hard to feel bad for any fools that still choose to leave their $/BTC in Homeros greedy, fraud soaked hands.

lol thats hillarious, whos the only guy left working there Jonah?

[SDRebel]

(i.e. coins like neos have great features but don't have the marketing or the backing) 

For now, Neos is in a very positive way the exact opposite of XPY... Honest and skilled Dev, great features etc.
Give it a little time and it will be what XPY pretends to be.

exactly, that's why I am saying all those people are supporting the wrong coin. There's a bunch of good people trying to support XPY, but it's the wrong coin to support.

[Thirdspace]

On a lighter note, this odd message popped up on CoinSwap:


Paybase frozen for a week, and now Coinswap giving this odd warning. An advance warning of a shutdown perhaps? At this point it is hard to feel bad for any fools that still choose to leave their $/BTC in Homeros greedy, fraud soaked hands.

now... how are we going to withdraw the coins if they disabled all the main wallet
I looked at the title on the webchat it says: **BTC, DOGE, XPY, AND PND ARE ALL DISABLED FOR MAINTENANCE**

edit: coin-swap.net will be closing on March, 22nd, 2015.
finally I can withdraw my coins now, after they released the news of closing the exchanger.
all coins can be withdrawn, a few with delays because of done manually