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I posted this chat log on Hashtalk between myself and Garza in February, shortly after I bought one of their “Hashlets”, or whatever you call them. This chat log got down voted sooo many times, it was very sad to watch these zombies be so brain washed, as they hand over their dollars to Garza.
I think the only thing Garza had going for him was that he is not afraid of prison. Any one of us could easily do what he did, and do a much better job at it if we didn’t care about being locked up. I’m predicting suicide, or prison.
Either way, reading through this log again, I was cracking up laughing because it was sooo freaking obvious that this was a scam.
I made a few comments in the log below between /* -- */. Everything else is raw chat log.
GAW_CEO
I find your comment innapriorate and disrespectful. If you are interested a normal and respectful conversation, let me know.
/* You are a business I invested in, I don’t have to respect you, you should respect me as well as your investors as our investments will keep your lights on*/
about 14 hours ago chrisk
I’m sorry, I really don’t mean to disrespect anyone. I simply asked if you could post some numbers that anyone here would be interested in.
In the end I, like everyone on here, am a customer disrespect or not, I need to know the facts before I invest.
/* I really just wanted to know how much hashing they are actually doing, shouldn’t be a big deal for most companies like this, in fact, almost all of them post that info and they are proud of it */
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
I would rather you not invest
if you do not have the info you want
/* Really, you now you don’t want my money? Was it something I said? */
about 14 hours ago chrisk
Wow, really?
So you don’t need the business?
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Thats correct. I am only interested in business from those who are comfortable with us.
I dont want anyone doing business with us thats not comfortable
/* How can I be comfortable giving you my money when I have no idea what you’re doing with it? */
about 14 hours ago chrisk
Well that’s laughable. 1) you do realize this communication is not private in any way. 2) Rather than provide numbers you would just not want my business?
/* Just wanted to cover my ass here, I was already preparing an email to coindesk
. I mean, common, this is like going to a butcher, asking him where the meet came from, and him telling me to get the f out of his store because I asked. Would you go back to that butcher? */
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
As the CEO, I get the choice to decide what I disclose. Just like you get to device who you do business with.
*choose
/* I know at this point, I was having some beers while chatting, so that’s partially my excuse for the horrible grammar and spelling. I think at this point Garza was drunk, mad, or shaken up a bit */
about 14 hours ago chrisk
Okay, so tell me. Why would you not want more customers?
I mean, in the end ive said that this is awesome! but simply asked for more data before I invest and you’re threatened or annoyed by that
why is that?
/* At this point I’m convinced it’s a scam, I’m just playing with him. */
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Its not about wanting more customers. I choose what I think is best for the customer base we already have. My obligation is to them and their investments. I do not disclose certain types of information for competitive reasons. Companies all over the world are copying our designs, and I am not interested in making it easier for them. So like I said, you have to decide if there is a fit here for you.
/* Wait a minute…
starting to sound like, maybe you want me as a customer? */
about 14 hours ago chrisk
So why not say that on your website?
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
say what?
about 14 hours ago chrisk
or even in the forums
that you will not provide any data at all. Its a invest and gamble or don’t type of deal.
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Depends on what data your asking for. But no, as a private customer we will not release data about our financials, hashing power, the multipools we own, etc
/* Im simply asking about hashing power, and the hashing operation, not financials */
about 14 hours ago chrisk
I mean, just respond to my post and say sorry, we will not give anyone that info ever for our own reasons.
so were having this conversation but you dont know what data I asked for?
/* Again, just the hashing operation */
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Not interested an argument. Like a said a few comments back, we plan to do a walk through one of our data centers soon. If your not comfortable, I would wait until then to see if it has the information you want to see to make you comfortable. If it does, I would love to have you as a customer.
/* What! Now you have a datacenter, hmm. Wait, you LOVE to have me as a customer?
But, but you just said you dint want me as a customer Garza is much like a girlfriend I had when I was 12 */
about 14 hours ago chrisk
Oh I am a customer. The whole point is that I wanted to invest more, meaning I needed more info before I do that.
its standard info that any pool would give you
Per coin, what is the total hash rate of the operation? Per coin, what is the total hash rate vs remaining? (what have you sold, how many do you have left…) Per coin, how many block are we getting daily? Why not List the blocks found, that would be solid proof to everyone that you are actually mining. Total power usage and cost for the farm or farms?
/* All you have to do is provide this info, and I’ll give you my savings… Why are we still talking? */
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
I will not provide that information. I have no interest in letting our competitors know our scale
/* Why?
*/
about 14 hours ago chrisk
and that is your official statement?
You do realize you have to show where my money went right?
/* Still just screwing with him */
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
There are some pictures throughout the forum of different data centers
/* WTF does this mean? Your datacenters? Just pictures of random datacenters, I don’t understand? */
about 14 hours ago chrisk
The fact that I put my money into a black hole, and a tiny payout comes out every day (or not) is questionable.
Listen, I don’t want to waste your time. I think I have everything I need.
/* I knew from the get go that he was shifting money from one customer to another, that’s what I was getting at when I said sometimes you get a payout and sometimes you don’t. Kind of like a Ponzi scheme. */
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Cool, I think our walk through will address some/most of your concerns. It will have some general numbers, pictures, power, etc
/* Holy crap! So now you say you ARE going to post some numbers and even do a walkthrough of one of your datacenters. Hmm, why did we have this conversation? I’m so confused at this point… */
about 14 hours ago chrisk
Yea, let me know. I love what you guys are doing but, I need to know its legit. No offense in any way.
Have a good night man.
/* I’m still a nice guy though */
about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
email this address
info@bitmaintech.comand copy me
josh@btc.comand ask them if our most recent order was over 5 peta hash :grinning:
night
/* Even more confused now, why didn’t you just tell me this several minutes ago? And 5 Petahashes don’t mean anything if you sold 20 worth */
