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May 23, 2014, 05:10:46 PM
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different from imaginary share dividends which never get realised. *coughs*
do you also lie to your wife

no, thanks for your concern.
now, your dividends;

btcgarden have a heap of chips, rockminer have a heap of chips. you have no dividends.

ho-hum.

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May 23, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
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different from imaginary share dividends which never get realised. *coughs*
do you also lie to your wife

no, thanks for your concern.
now, your dividends;

btcgarden have a heap of chips, rockminer have a heap of chips. you have no dividends.

ho-hum.

just go troll over some other thread man. at least we expect divs from AM whislt you wont with spondoblabla. and when they come plz dont bother to pass by. spondob*tch. Tongue
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May 23, 2014, 05:18:02 PM
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different from imaginary share dividends which never get realised. *coughs*
do you also lie to your wife

no, thanks for your concern.
now, your dividends;

btcgarden have a heap of chips, rockminer have a heap of chips. you have no dividends.

ho-hum.

you linked to a thread.  how about go over there and talk about spooning each other?  you have nothing to add to this discussion..
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May 23, 2014, 05:20:07 PM
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different from imaginary share dividends which never get realised. *coughs*
do you also lie to your wife

no, thanks for your concern.
now, your dividends;

btcgarden have a heap of chips, rockminer have a heap of chips. you have no dividends.

ho-hum.

you linked to a thread.  how about go over there and talk about spooning each other?  you have nothing to add to this discussion..

i have concern that you are being screwed over, that's all.
Is it normal that IPO investment dividends are held onto, AFTER sales have occurred? i'd be very wary if you haven't already seen some dividends, that you will EVER see dividends.

Are your divs reliant on rockminer, hashratio and btcgarden selling their rigs? if that's the case... i'm sorry but you are in for a loooooong wait.

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May 23, 2014, 05:20:53 PM
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May 23, 2014, 05:22:41 PM
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you have no dividends.
I do.
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May 23, 2014, 05:25:38 PM
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naaaaaah.

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May 23, 2014, 05:27:51 PM
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different from imaginary share dividends which never get realised. *coughs*
do you also lie to your wife

no, thanks for your concern.
now, your dividends;

btcgarden have a heap of chips, rockminer have a heap of chips. you have no dividends.

ho-hum.

you linked to a thread.  how about go over there and talk about spooning each other?  you have nothing to add to this discussion..

i have concern that you are being screwed over, that's all.
Is it normal that IPO investment dividends are held onto, AFTER sales have occurred? i'd be very wary if you haven't already seen some dividends, that you will EVER see dividends.

Are your divs reliant on rockminer and btcgarden selling their rigs? if that's the case... i'm sorry but you are in for a loooooong wait.

So you went straight from "best post of the day" to "best troll of the day". Well done!

* Sells are paid in $, and AM must change to BTC before paying dividends. I think they do there best to get the best possible rate. It's something that you don't do in 10m, but rather in few days. Especially if you go OTC.

* AM made clear they were likely not going to pay divs every week, but every two weeks or every months. ROCKMINER got 23k chips, out of 800k, it makes no sense to pay dust randomly here and there. It makes more sense to sell a good chunk or all of them, before changing to bitcoin and paying divs. So who cares if ROCKMINER is selling, that doesn't mean divs should reach us immediately.

You're free to try to spread FUD, but you'll need muuuuuch better arguments because AM is not the latest crap in bitcoin world.  Wink

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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May 23, 2014, 05:28:20 PM
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different from imaginary share dividends which never get realised. *coughs*
do you also lie to your wife

no, thanks for your concern.
now, your dividends;

btcgarden have a heap of chips, rockminer have a heap of chips. you have no dividends.

ho-hum.

you linked to a thread.  how about go over there and talk about spooning each other?  you have nothing to add to this discussion..

i have concern that you are being screwed over, that's all.
Is it normal that IPO investment dividends are held onto, AFTER sales have occurred? i'd be very wary if you haven't already seen some dividends, that you will EVER see dividends.

Are your divs reliant on rockminer, hashratio and btcgarden selling their rigs? if that's the case... i'm sorry but you are in for a loooooong wait.

I really appreciate that you are just so concerned for us. Thank you.
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May 23, 2014, 05:28:54 PM
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AM is not the latest crap in bitcoin world.  Wink



aaaactually, i beg to differ.

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May 23, 2014, 05:32:36 PM
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AM is not the latest crap in bitcoin world.  Wink



aaaactually, i beg to differ.

Sure, fine! Don't waste your time here then.


Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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May 23, 2014, 05:34:24 PM
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i have concern that you are being screwed over, that's all.
Is it normal that IPO investment dividends are held onto, AFTER sales have occurred? i'd be very wary if you haven't already seen some dividends, that you will EVER see dividends.

Screwed over by a company that sold shares for 0.1 BTC and has paid out around 0.6 BTC in dividends in the first year?

Are your divs reliant on rockminer, hashratio and btcgarden selling their rigs? if that's the case... i'm sorry but you are in for a loooooong wait.

Of course they're not. Why would they be?
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May 23, 2014, 05:37:21 PM
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AM is not the latest crap in bitcoin world.  Wink



aaaactually, i beg to differ.

AM - 0.554 J/Gh at 11.52 Gh/s.
Spondoolies - 0.58 J/Gh at 7.5 Gh/s.

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May 23, 2014, 05:40:40 PM
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AM is not the latest crap in bitcoin world.  Wink



aaaactually, i beg to differ.

AM - 0.554 J/Gh at 11.52 Gh/s.
Spondoolies - 0.58 J/Gh at 7.5 Gh/s.



And since the next gen (SP30) of Spoonydooly is just a dice shrink (thanks for the link to other thread raskul!), it means if it does work, AM likely could just do the same thing.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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Lol. AM's most likely eventual flood of the market at a difficult to compete price point will leave those fancy miners valued not a purse full of coon shit more than the bare bones, unbridled, almost intentionally ugly low cost Chinese made hash machines. I'd rather sell a million Timex's than three Rolex's especially when they all have about a six month window to operate.
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May 23, 2014, 05:46:42 PM
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AM is not the latest crap in bitcoin world.  Wink



aaaactually, i beg to differ.

AM - 0.554 J/Gh at 11.52 Gh/s.
Spondoolies - 0.58 J/Gh at 7.5 Gh/s.



Not my thread, but I need to set the record straight.
Our ASICs can achieve above 10 GHs. It was just one corner measurement.
At the end, it's system efficiency. I saw three examples of systems based on AM3 in the wild, all of them above 1.1 W/GHs.
Out system is about 0.85 W/GHs at full power.
We've taped out our 2nd gen ASIC, and we'll be below 0.45 W/GHs at the system level in two months.

AM3 can't compete on 28nm, since it's "custom design", which means it will take at least 6 months to produce 28nm. Well in time for our 3rd gen.
Finally, we can compete on the price as well.

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is now part of Blockstream: https://blog.blockstream.com/en-blockstream-mining-builds-momentum-with-spondoolies-acquisition/
Kaspa is a POW cryptocurrencty which implements GhostDAG protocol: https://kaspanet.org/
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May 23, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
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AM3 can't compete on 28nm, since it's "custom design"

Could you elaborate a little bit? How is this different from your own custom implementation of SHA256?

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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May 23, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
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it's... Spondoolies-Tech.

'Spondoolies' is a slang term for 'real money' which is different from imaginary share dividends which never get realised. *coughs*
to me, Spondoolies is what I take to the pub when I go out with my wife, and I spoil her with all the lovely spondoolies that my best miners in the world have earned me. She is very pleased and she lets me buy more miners from Spondoolies-Tech (yes i'm under the thumb, but we are an old fashioned couple and we are very happy)


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did you say spindoggydangles??

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May 23, 2014, 06:13:20 PM
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AM3 can't compete on 28nm, since it's "custom design"

Could you elaborate a little bit? How is this different from your own custom implementation of SHA256?


Unlike BitFury and AM, we didn't use custom circuit design (with custom PDK) in our 1st and 2nd gen.
It's a time consuming effort, that needed to be redone from the beginning when moving to a more advance process node.

We're doing that with our 3rd gen and we understand the effort. I don't believe AM can produce a competitive 28nm in time.
BitFury on the other hand will probably do.

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is now part of Blockstream: https://blog.blockstream.com/en-blockstream-mining-builds-momentum-with-spondoolies-acquisition/
Kaspa is a POW cryptocurrencty which implements GhostDAG protocol: https://kaspanet.org/
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May 23, 2014, 06:16:10 PM
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There was a time when this thread wouldn't have tolerated a competitor's speculation, times sure have changed.

GTFO, thanks.
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