phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo Yes, you are correct. I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65% Just about evens out on that front. Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer.... on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2 |
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I always test the latest Claymore against the latest PhoenixMiner.
I have 6 AMD Cards on Windows 10 Pro Build 16299
Update:
Claymore (11.6) Phoenix Miner (2.8c)
HashRate HashRate
184.5 184.2 ( Phoenix was highter almost 186.5 but memory errors required me to lower the mem clocks to eleminate that problem )
I have no memory errors with Claymore or Phoenix at those speeds.
Stale Shares Sale Shares
2% 4% to 8%
Stability Stability
Solid Solid
Avg GPU Temp Avg GPU Temp
67C 65C
Those are the most important stats for me that I measure.
When you add all the extra features offered by Claymore, including the auto tuning it's a solid win for me to use Claymore.
phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo |
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The current Casper roadmap initially requires 1000 ETH to participate in POS rewards. Once sharding is implemented fully in to the main chain, that number is expected to drop to 10 ETH, which makes it accessible to many more people. I would expect once those plans are announced it will easily drive up the price by 2-3x in a short period as people buy up ether to participate in POS.
even if this wasn’t the case there are pos pools for other coins, but yeah pos will dirve the price way up especially with lower inflation . pos is at least a year away tho |
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Any news on X10 price lowering?
Cheers W_M
Still $2699 and min 2 .... when they will go bankrupt they will give them $50 .... If everyone is dropping the prices BAIKAL is keeping them there ... its playing the stupid strategy. yeah they must have mad so much stealth mining cryptonite with the N they are well into profits , and dont need to lower price. Think they were mining with those units since october last year |
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I doubt there are alot of eth asics yet, memory is expensive, each chip needs at least 3gb
Bitmain has as much money as Nvidia right now, dont think money is a concern as far as the return for the asic miners give a return which is the case, the only concern is be in the queue for memory chips. thats a good point, they have so much $$ now |
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How can you deny it when the chart is right there in front of you? Take a look at the past few months, its never gone down this sharply for this long.
Things are changing. Miners are quitting.
Yes, miners are quitting, asics are not. Sadly more than 50% of the hashrate is coming from asics, also right now it shows that the difficulty is going down but you need to understand that bitmain and co will be filling with more asics, so you will not see drop in the hashrate or difficulty for that matter. So for 100 gpus quitting, bitmain adds one asic to cover it for each 100 gpus hehe I doubt there are alot of eth asics yet, memory is expensive, each chip needs at least 3gb didf is down bc the people with expensive electric do better by buying eth at this point than mining. or they are selling thier gpus before prices drop, also ravencoin is more profitable by eth for all brand of cards so ppl are switching |
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hmm nvida still gets great hash rate on raven with negative mem set or even zero
how is that if some of the algos are memory intensive
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buying coins is the move now not cards 🤦🏿♂️
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Is not only eth, everything is crashing and looking at the graph, this has been a huge manipulation, the date it started coincides to the same day the pump on 2013 started, so is the same people, dumping everything and then will buy it cheaper and pump again in few days. If you have eth do not sell it cause these manipulators will start pumping all very soon.
Anyone selling ETH right now is a fucking idiot. Just saying. ETH is soooooo low. Keep those buy orders staggered on the down turn. It's not rocket science. gotta sell some to pay billa bruh, ill keep some tho |
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The level of "this is bad" has reached new levels. I am paying a lot on electricity per kWh and right now I am barely breaking even. ETH is under $400... I am very very close to unplugging...
just breaking even here too if i count my bills , I might actually have to go back to work lol |
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It seems that nvidia pushed the production of mining cards last 2 months and flooding the market with them thus killing the mining profitability.Also its probably not a bad move to sell gpus now as most of them wont mine the same amount of money in a year that you can get from seling them
Yes I am noticing this also. Basically nivida were best for ZEC due to the high hashrate and low power consumption. And now the profitability of ZEC became magnitudes lower than ETH profitability. So many of the older gen AMD GPUs and most Nvidia GPUs are suffering. actually nvidia cards are moving to raven , its like two times more profitable than eth or 3x zec |
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this Raven coin has a serious up side to it.
I see it over 1 usd by December
Haven't had time to check this coin out. Is it Nvidia only or can you mine With AMD at fair speeds similiar to Nvidia? Anyone know what speeds it generates with R9 280X, R9 290 and RX 470 AMD = Nvidia in this algo. My 580 8GB averages around 7.8MH/s at 1400 core 1900 memory. 7.2MH/s at stock 1340 core. 470 is around 5-6. Core speed is the bottleneck. Memory is just as important too on AMD. As for the r9 290 I couldnt launch the amd miner it just freezes. Not really Nvidia is alot better, 1070s are at 9mhs. 1070ti 11ms , and you dont have to do anything memory only raise core by say 60 -100 most people have hard code modded rx cards with low core , so moving these to raven is not easily doable I got my 4 vegas going and they are good 11-15mhs |
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do you know anything about software? They do not eveb have the hybrid pos they have talking about implementing in testnet
Partly wrong - they DO have part of Casper up and running on testnet, though not the full blown implamentation yet. Last comment I saw from one of the devs was "2 to 3 months for full "hybrid" implimentation on testnet" but they've been known to miss estimated deadlines a LOT. POS will not kill ETH, just ETH mining - most INVESTORS could not care less about the difference between POS and POW. finally so sensible discussion, again though this proves my point , 100million coins means nothing if the software is not ready for full POS, I would bet my life that they will not even hit the hybrid POS (Casper) implementation deadline in 2 months and this doofus is saying mining will end in two months. As a dev myself I would at least want to run the hybrid implementation on live for six months minimum before going to full POS. If the software is not ready do you think they will care about hitting 100million coins just to stop inflation when they risk destroying thier ecosystem ? hell no The already reduced the block reward by 2 on the last fork, In hybrid POS block reward will probably go down to 2 or so , but they wont implement it till q4 at the soonest. Eth will still be mineable for at least a year if not more. |
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let's be clear about this.
Today, losses are increasing. Do you think any investor is willing to put money into a market that is collapsing??? Think it twice before answering.
That said, ETH PoS is just 2 months from now. Vitalik has repetedly said he will apply PoS once he gets 100 million coins. That will happen very very soon.
Now, what do you think it's going to happen with all those enormous numbers of GPU's mining ETH at the moment? well....if you are not a moron you may know that people will switch to any profitable coin on the market. As there is not a reference like ETH, people will try any coins, increasing enormously the difficulty of the coin, so almost any coin with profit will see increasing their difficulty. If prices continue like this, i can assure you no coin will be profitable once all those ETH cards begin mining other things.
Moreover you have to consider also a point. As it happens to ETH (which is better on AMD cards), many algos benefit NVIDIA, so if you try MONERO, you will have to overclock your card (unless you want to get less coins), but that will also increase your power consumption. Moreover if at that point you have to put to 8pin on your cards like in Sapphire RX 570 and 580 nitro+, which implies making deep changes on your configuration.
overclocking will increase your electricity bill, so at current prices, I think Monero and all coins on cryptonight will be a no go for AMD cards.
That's not considering taxes that governments want to apply. Not considering regulations and laws that would imply other big changes for you.
at the actual point, ETH is not profitable. maybe you can find right now some coins profitable. But once ETH goes PoS, bye bye , because all those alt coins with see their difficulty so increased that will not be profitable at all.
The only solution for ETH PoS and all of you not "main stream miners" is that some coin gets the place of ETH. If that doesn't occur......welll......you know what will happen.
2 months? 😂😂😂 gtfo looney toons Do you know simple maths? just go to this page https://etherscan.io/stat/supplySee a 24hours period and get the amount of coins generated per day. Multiply and........you'll see it by your own. 100 million coins as said to Vitalik will apply PoS My argument is clear, is valid, and it's possible. Do you actually have an argument to say that what i say is not gonna happen?? Or the gtfo looney toons is actually you?  do you know anything about software? They do not eveb have the hybrid pos they have talking about implementing in testnet yet let along their full blown pos solution. Sharding and Lightning network is still in beta which they NEED for scalability and you think they will pos in two months? The software is open source you can check the bug notes and milestones for your self , at a minumum they are six months away from hybrid pos/pow your an idiot just spreading fud so yeah gtfo |
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let's be clear about this.
Today, losses are increasing. Do you think any investor is willing to put money into a market that is collapsing??? Think it twice before answering.
That said, ETH PoS is just 2 months from now. Vitalik has repetedly said he will apply PoS once he gets 100 million coins. That will happen very very soon.
Now, what do you think it's going to happen with all those enormous numbers of GPU's mining ETH at the moment? well....if you are not a moron you may know that people will switch to any profitable coin on the market. As there is not a reference like ETH, people will try any coins, increasing enormously the difficulty of the coin, so almost any coin with profit will see increasing their difficulty. If prices continue like this, i can assure you no coin will be profitable once all those ETH cards begin mining other things.
Moreover you have to consider also a point. As it happens to ETH (which is better on AMD cards), many algos benefit NVIDIA, so if you try MONERO, you will have to overclock your card (unless you want to get less coins), but that will also increase your power consumption. Moreover if at that point you have to put to 8pin on your cards like in Sapphire RX 570 and 580 nitro+, which implies making deep changes on your configuration.
overclocking will increase your electricity bill, so at current prices, I think Monero and all coins on cryptonight will be a no go for AMD cards.
That's not considering taxes that governments want to apply. Not considering regulations and laws that would imply other big changes for you.
at the actual point, ETH is not profitable. maybe you can find right now some coins profitable. But once ETH goes PoS, bye bye , because all those alt coins with see their difficulty so increased that will not be profitable at all.
The only solution for ETH PoS and all of you not "main stream miners" is that some coin gets the place of ETH. If that doesn't occur......welll......you know what will happen.
2 months? 😂😂😂 gtfo looney toons |
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Was busy did move six cards to rvn Did you find out if nvidia had info worthwhile Nvidia announced a new Quadro series, but nothing so far that would interest miners or gamers. thanks Raven address below RTThoGzWY2G9XryuNV2bgPW9SCspnFAdwj RLmfNKK3uAbKBn4yRhrLYqphtQqWqfgwFp I opened 2 crypto-bridge accounts. and a core wallet RKXAduAisDkpM91x91E9cddTFUTkHxjDC3 so far happy with raven i earned 440 coins Sold 50 for 0.00000748 listed 50 for 0.00001111 listed 50 for 0.00002222 listed 50 for 0.00003333 hodl 240 of them. @philipma1957 well done sir I'm so exicted for raven , true Asic resistance, no premine, active devs etc i wish i had pool mined from the start, I have a bunch of 580 8GB too I might move to raven I heard they get 7000 mhs vs the 10000 for the 1070s tho |
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@ citronick
thanks for putting this all in one place
i tried that sgminer , but it seems to only support stratum only
there is a nvidia solo miner im testing which works great
Need a solo miner for my vegas too
Hit the bitcointalk page for RVN... I last read the solo discussions over there, some have already tried solo mining succesfully and getting 5000 RVNs per block but this was almost 2 months ago.... I doubt a few GPUs can make a dent doing solo mining at present day but .... this RVN block cycle is every 60 seconds so who knows an array of Vegas or 1080tis would be an interesting project to setup. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752467.msg28125249#msg28125249BTW, there is only 1.8M RVN coins for grabs ... so please leave some for us mere mortals... :-) Goodluck on solo mining, about a 3 weeks ago i pointed 100+ GPU's in solo mining, after 8 hours i had nothing to show for it.. so i pointed to suprnova now jeez thats crazy , 100 + nvidia gpus ? my 10 1080ti's are better then 20 1060's my 24 1080ti's are better then 50 1060's So maybe he has 1060's Now diff was less back around March 7 I think there are 5000 coins in a block my 10 1080ti's have earned 400 coins in under a day if he had 100 1080ti's he should have been getting at least 1 block a day 3 weeks ago. ahh yeah I would be happy with a block every 2-3 days , no fees and faster latency on my end the only problem i have is monitoring 12 rigs , since there is no monitor tool for when i miner goes down for CC miner , also its hard to tell what your total hash rate is in the mining info console it says 42000 hashes per seccond whatever that means. I have mostly 1070s and 1070tis , a few 1080ti and 1060 6GB mixed in too tho |
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@ citronick
thanks for putting this all in one place
i tried that sgminer , but it seems to only support stratum only
there is a nvidia solo miner im testing which works great
Need a solo miner for my vegas too
Hit the bitcointalk page for RVN... I last read the solo discussions over there, some have already tried solo mining succesfully and getting 5000 RVNs per block but this was almost 2 months ago.... I doubt a few GPUs can make a dent doing solo mining at present day but .... this RVN block cycle is every 60 seconds so who knows an array of Vegas or 1080tis would be an interesting project to setup. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752467.msg28125249#msg28125249BTW, there is only 1.8M RVN coins for grabs ... so please leave some for us mere mortals... :-) Goodluck on solo mining, about a 3 weeks ago i pointed 100+ GPU's in solo mining, after 8 hours i had nothing to show for it.. so i pointed to suprnova now jeez thats crazy , 100 + nvidia gpus ? |
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@ citronick
thanks for putting this all in one place
i tried that sgminer , but it seems to only support stratum only
there is a nvidia solo miner im testing which works great
Need a solo miner for my vegas too
Hit the bitcointalk page for RVN... I last read the solo discussions over there, some have already tried solo mining succesfully and getting 5000 RVNs per block but this was almost 2 months ago.... I doubt a few GPUs can make a dent doing solo mining at present day but .... this RVN block cycle is every 60 seconds so who knows an array of Vegas or 1080tis would be an interesting project to setup. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752467.msg28125249#msg28125249BTW, there is only 1.8M RVN coins for grabs ... so please leave some for us mere mortals... :-) lol I'm one of the mortals , I only have around 15 nvidia rigs all six gpu might point them all the raven though |
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