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1201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Land-based Casino Enjoyers are something else. on: January 26, 2024, 06:21:04 PM
~snip~
Question is how will they know? Would the girl present it to the entrance voluntarily? Will the receptionists assess a psychological testing before gamblers enter the casino? Silly it is to think of but it would be impossible. If the girl is aware of her condition she won't announce it with initiative 'coz for sure she knows that she won't be allowed to gamble or to enter the establishment which is in contrast of her purpose to why did she go there in the first place. We have many questions in our mind and only her would be abe to answer unfortunately or whether the casino would give their statement about it 'coz complaints are a bit expected from others who are playing peacefully.
We don't know how they knew, but perhaps the officers on duty could recognize someone from all of them so they could determine who could enter the casino. Aren't the casino officials trying to ensure the casino is safe from everyone? There is no need to carry out psychological tests before gamblers enter the casino because there are officers to ensure that all visitors can behave well while they are in the casino. Perhaps the girl could play her role well so that the girl could enter the casino and eventually something like that happened. It is very embarrassing if a girl acts like that, and if anyone finds out, they will report it to the casino. The girl will be examined further to see if she is still conscious or drunk or something else.

It is clear that all casinos must want the casino situation to be orderly and avoid unwanted situations, especially those that can be detrimental and this is the reason why there are always officers on guard, on the other hand, looking at the way of dressing and the clothes worn by the girl, honestly I did not find any suspicion on her because she looked like a normal person who was playing on one of the game machines, And by looking at this situation then in my opinion the shameful act that was done was not a deliberate act, in the sense that it seemed like he did it unconsciously and what is more likely is that this is because of the influence of the intoxicating drinks that he had consumed before playing which finally made him lose consciousness a little and act unnaturally like a person who has a mental disorder.
1202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: January 26, 2024, 05:56:59 PM

That's when they go too far because at this rate they cannot stop themselves anymore when they use the money they aren't supposed to. Others are moderate when it comes to their gaming and that can also lead to addiction for others especially if they develop hyper-excitement when they are playing this happens to lots of people when they have lots of buddies who often play with them because it's not a matter of habit anymore, it becomes a matter of prestige and merit on who will gonna win big and they compete with that without taking precautions of the consequences in their future.

When one who isn't focused at locating or targeting his punch is fighting, he's actually blowing the air. Such people usually losses the fight. Because they've got no target and don't have a strategy to win the game. That's why gamblers who chase losses are mainly top losers. As it's not a planned act. Most of the practitioners of the method do not execute it on purpose. I'd say it's an impulse that drags them like gravity to do those things. Gambling requires planning and sticking to those plans, if preferably cheap or economical. Staying active in our ways of wagering money and devising other method if not satisfied with the results we are getting from our previous or current strategy. Chasing on those lost money is more like going after air. Not being able to know where your moves or launches are headed. Such gamblers are not encouraged to continue repeating same strategy over and over, especially when it doesn't work as expected. The fun of gambling should be crafting out great ideas and methods.

Gamblers who chase losses typically lose sight of the game's essence. Its about process, learning, and fun, not simply money. I've always thought the best gamblers treat it like an art. They study, adapt, and know when to retreat. This thoughtful method separates wheat from chaff.

Chat about fun. Never underestimate the fun of gambling. Creating strategies, trying new methods, and enjoying a well-played hand make it enjoyable. Reassess when it stops being fun. Gambling should be exploratory, not relentless. This is smart, fun gambling.

Misunderstandings in the point of view on gambling are the starting point for gamblers to go down the wrong path, after all gambling is always recommended for fun but if someone comes with an ignorance of what gambling really is then it is no longer a matter of fun, but will only produce a lot of tension along with unusual pressure, on the other hand misunderstandings also make in the end they are unable to accept the reality of losing which in the end chasing victory to cover the previous defeat is the alternative they usually take. Your idea is indeed more than advisable but not all gamblers can treat gambling activities well because this is an activity that can stimulate the brain system which usually tends to lead them more often to the wrong path because of something that looks tempting when it is nothing more than a trap.

We cannot turn a blind eye to the fact that more people see gambling as a place to earn, and this is what makes them unable to direct their minds to the possibility of risk, everyone wants/needs money so the urge to win will be stronger than realizing the fact that gambling is more recommended for entertainment.
1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Older men vs Younger boys in gambling, Which enjoys Gambling for fun the more? on: January 26, 2024, 05:22:32 PM
Honestly I can't say that the elderly 100% always make gambling a place for fun because it is likely that there will always be some of the other elderly who still have the wrong point of view on gambling, or meaning tend to make gambling as income rather than pleasure despite the fact that defeat always slaps them at the end of the session, and vice versa I can't say that all young people treat gambling as a place of entertainment only. But if we look and conclude as a whole then I'm sure the answer from most people's perspectives is that they are the elderly who make gambling a place to have fun more than young people.

One of the reasons may be that we can see in terms of experience and maturity of a person that we can use as a benchmark for this problem, where the maturity and experience possessed by the elderly can usually make them think more rationally in every view of things, someone who is very mature usually does not prioritize or do not put excessive seriousness for things that basically do not make sense like winning in gambling which always depends on luck. As for young people, they usually always have strong ambitions so that more of them act aggressively and more make decisions without any consideration, they also have a high curiosity which indirectly all of these things can turn gambling which should be fun into stressful.
1204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: January 26, 2024, 04:43:52 PM
Gambling usually helps to gain benefits from money narrowed gambling. The more a player is attracted or addicted to gambling, the greater the chance of losses. The more money you have, the more you will be addicted to gambling, that's why it is better to bet 1-2% of the main assets on gambling every day. Then a gambler will be able to participate in gambling for a long time and will be sure to join if the money is used properly. Using such strategies in gambling is a sign of winning gambling.
Most benefits that we can get is to have fun while some times we can also earn a profit out of it. This is why it's not advisable to use higher amounts. For those who use small amounts, there must still be a limit on their playing time so that it won't lead for them to get addicted in gambling and burn more time and money on it, since small amounts will still grow huge once it adds up.

Gambling can be played for free but for those who want the real thing and they don't have funds to continue, they can do unwanted things like stealing and selling stuffs. With those that I've said, to become an addict does not only depend on our wealth or if we have lots of money, but it's only about how we control our selves.

Yes in gambling fun should be prioritized, because if you focus too much on winning then there is always the possibility of bad outcomes such as much greater risk. One of the reasons why I believe that we should treat gambling as fun is because I don't see any certainty or guarantee for the outcome at the end of the session, meaning that losing is possible, and this is also the reason why we shouldn't over gamble and only put a moderate amount. True, budget limits are necessary but on the other hand it's not just that, and as you said we should also apply time limits, because it's useless to put a small amount if you still allocate too much time to gambling, "little by little it will eventually become a hill" and this is why time limits are also necessary.

Engaging in gambling for free such as playing on a demo account is like you are "cooking without spices", meaning that there is no sensation that can increase endorphins, right? This is what makes most gamblers not interested and prefer to engage in real gambling, and what is worried is for those who have no money or run out of money due to losses in previous sessions, and this is true cannot rule out the possibility for a gambler to commit some out of control actions such as stealing or other criminal acts, this is what is feared because the wrong approach to gambling can make a person change his behavior.
1205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 26, 2024, 04:23:00 PM
Tomorrow we will look back at how the two teams fare in their next match in the Bundesliga where both can probably win. Because the opponents they face tomorrow are not top teams, although they are also not that bad teams this season, but I am quite sure that Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen will be able to win three points in tomorrow's match in order to continue to be at the top of the standings. But on the one hand, Bayern Munich must fight again to catch Bayer Leverkusen because Bayern Munich is four points behind Bayer Leverkusen.

I think the next few matches will end with Leverkusen and Munich winning. They faced a team that was not from the top of the standings. And the match that is awaited is Leverkusen vs Munich and I think it will be an important match for both teams. If Leverkusen wins then they will be 7 points ahead and that will further strengthen their position in the standings. If Leverkusen loses then Munich will only be 1 point behind Leverkusen and I am sure that will also affect their performance for the next few matches.

I can't be too optimistic to confirm this because anything can happen at the end of the match, especially if I look at the Bayern Munich camp where lately they have often slipped even though they are faced with weak teams and one of them is like their recent defeat when faced with Werder, which is basically a middle to lower team, although in the match after that Bayern Munich managed to secure full points against Union Berlin but still I think doubts still cannot be completely eliminated in tomorrow's match against Augsburg. In the previous two matches Leverkusen managed to beat Augsburg even with a narrow score, and this means that it is quite embarrassing for Bayern Munich if they cannot win any victory against this team. Of course, the Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen match is a match that all Bundesliga fans are really looking forward to because we are very curious about who is stronger between the two at the top of a very hot competition, honestly I can't say for sure whether Leverkusen can break Bayern Munich's dominance or not but what I know is that they have a good chance with the consistency they currently have.
1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: January 26, 2024, 03:46:16 PM
In my opinion, there are a lot of things that don't make sense and you have to question why they use gambling as a place to earn money, one of which is what  makes you too confident that you will really always be able to earn money while on the other hand there is always no certainty that can guarantee it. results at the end of the session? Of course  there are always two answers at the end of the session between winning and losing, you can achieve one of these two things at the end of the session which of course is the answer to your gambling involvement. However, gambling is a game of chance that involves risk, I would support your idea of "profitable gambling" if indeed gambling does not involve the possibility of risk, but isn't it not gambling if it doesn't involve risk?

Honestly I've seen quite a lot of topics like this but it doesn't matter and I will never get bored of always sharing my thoughts to lead to a straighter path in terms of approach to gambling. Another thing, the wrong approach can turn pleasure into tension due to loss, and for this problem what must be corrected in my opinion is the perspective and understanding of gambling. On the other hand, all gamblers want to win in whatever type of gambling they do, but the difference is that not all gamblers are "too pushy", so that means there are some of them who are too excessive and there are also some who are responsible and able to accept whatever the results are but they will not refuse. if you end up winning due to luck and would rather cash out than apply greed.
1207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: January 26, 2024, 03:11:59 PM
If you're relying on gambling as a means of income, wouldn't it be better to look for a job instead? It's not advisable to gamble every day as luck is not always on our side. There's no point in trying to gamble daily if it only results in losing your money.

Indeed, it's important to realize that gambling can have a significant impact on your family and finances. Regular gambling can lead to financial losses that could have been spent on your family's needs.
Daily gambling may be a rule for those who choose gambling as a source of income but for those who are amateurs and take gambling as fun, it is not logical to engage in daily gambling. Moreover, there are many gamblers who participate in gambling every day without considering their family and their financial condition, and in their case, there is definitely a result in the end that there is no other option than bankruptcy. Those who participate in daily gambling are very experienced and they especially consider their own funds, they do not bet again after a certain profit in gambling. But those who are amateur inexperienced gamblers participate in gambling every day and if for some reason consecutive losses occur in gambling then they continue to bet every day until the previous loss is recovered. Here is only the weak point of an amateur and inexperienced gambler.

However, I would still say that gambling every day or too often is not recommended because it is too dangerous, it is the same as digging a hole to bury yourself in, the absence of any certainty or guarantee I think is a fairly logical reason. why should we not prioritize seriousness in gambling activities, as I said above that danger is always threatening because in gambling the possibility of risk is much greater than the chance of winning and this means that this will only lead you to a worse situation.

Honestly, I don't see whether you are a beginner, a casual gambler or a professional, but in my opinion gambling every day is not recommended for all types of gamblers, we have to understand that gambling is stimulating and you can get carried away unconsciously when you are too frequent gambling which has the potential to lose a lot of your money, and another bad impact is the possibility that you will lose your enthusiasm to do other things or to carry out your daily activities such as your main job or other things due to the losses you experience at certain times.
1208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: While placing bet what comes your mind on: January 26, 2024, 02:50:14 PM
Yesterday was trying to place bet and during the process something in me keeps telling me to increase your wager do you know if you would hit something you never won before.. I was like is this how other people are being controlled by gambling or is it how it works? I said, no wonder some people gamble and finishes their allocation for the week or month. This can even lead someone to also go borrow if this feeling is not killed and stop, you can also see that this attributes in gambling addiction.

However, have you had this feeling while gambling before be it offline casino and online casinos?
Many gamblers have likely experienced the same thing. This kind of thinking involves mixed emotions such as positivity, doubt, nervousness, and greed. These emotions can make you think about increasing your bet for a chance of winning much bigger. Sometimes, it's also because of the adrenaline rush that you may want to increase your bet to have an even faster-paced game. Although it's normal to feel this way, it's important to try to control yourself during these situations, even though it can be challenging.

Yes that's right, I think almost all gamblers experience situations like this, and in my opinion some thoughts like this will be easy to arise when you are too excessive in responding to the victory you managed to get, then obviously the thought will arise to increase the amount of the budget because in such situations greed is really difficult to ignore especially if from the beginning you have a goal to get a win. On the other hand, we may already know the fact that if a gambler is too excessive in his gambling activities in any way such as chasing victory or applying greed to get something bigger then the final result will usually be very disappointing, after all gambling is a probability activity that does not provide any guarantee for gamblers to get a win, therefore some acts of greed are really not recommended because it will only make us feel excessive disappointment at the end of the session if you have too much hope. Therefore, I always emphasize to everyone that we must have self-control as well as some other limits and you need to be really firm in maintaining awareness, because if not then you will be very easy to get carried away on the wrong path.
1209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do i handle my first gambling experience on: January 26, 2024, 01:56:59 PM
As long as they still make rational decisions, the chances of them being an addict will be low. I agree that newbies aren't prone on being addicted on gambling, they will be a casual gambler as they go until they experience a massive loss that they are desperate to reclaim it or having a massive win that they want to experience again. That I think will be the trigger for their slow process of addiction. The gambling addiction can cause them into making bad decisions that most of the addicted gamblers do and can possibly cause their life to sink.

Well, that's right, as long as gamblers can think rationally then it is clear that indirectly they will be able to maintain the right understanding along with the awareness that exists within them, seeing things rationally or from a point of view based on logic will be able to make a gambler know what is going on. what they should do and what they should not do when they are in certain situations, such as choosing to stop when they experience one loss to prevent a larger amount of loss and also choosing to stop when they succeed in getting a win and prefer to cash out, however this is a choice The best thing is recommended so that you can stay awake in gambling involvement and as you said indirectly this will make us a little further away from the risk of possible addiction.

On the other hand, in my opinion, it is beginners who are usually more vulnerable to entering the addiction phase because it appears that they do not have much experience and they are still very ambitious in their gambling activities, so this is what makes them vulnerable to addiction because they don't really know about the dangers of gambling. , and in my opinion lately more beginners are too focused on the chance of winning which indirectly makes them seem to ignore the possibility of risk and this is the reason why I say that beginners are more susceptible to ending up addicted, but on the other hand I'm just saying this for those (beginners) who have absolutely no true understanding of the concept of gambling.
Gambling is rational. Like being a ship captain, knowing when to sail and dock is vital. Beginners are more prone to addiction, as you say. They leap in without understanding how to swim. Typical eagerness exceeding experience.

Mentorship is important to me as a veteran. Imagine if experienced gamblers taught newcomers about game mechanics and psychology. This could improve gambling knowledge and responsibility. Sharing knowledge - not just to play the game, but to understand it - is key.

I think we need to create a culture where pausing is a strategy, not a loss. Like chess, sometimes the wisest move is to retreat and plan for the next game. Such a method may promote healthy gambling. Remember, gambling should be fun, and playing another day is part of that. All about balance, right?

Your analogy is quite good in this case, I think basically it is still quite difficult for beginners to apply a rational mindset or point of view in gambling, as I said before that most of the beginners who have just arrived are tempted by the opportunity to win, a few wins what another person or one of their friends who gambles successfully achieves can really be a source of encouragement and high enthusiasm for them to get involved in getting the same win, and that means isn't there a hope factor that they put into gambling? Of course, while on the other hand hope is not at all recommended to be applied to gambling, anyone can win "if they are lucky", but people who are too enthusiastic and insist on continuing on the wrong path will usually find themselves in a slump and will only spinning in a dark black hole, the lack of enthusiasm to seek light makes it increasingly difficult for them to achieve consciousness.

Of course they need help from  other people if they are trapped in this situation, but the inability to open up means that other people don't know about what is happening to them. The difficulty of achieving awareness makes  those who are trapped unable to become responsible gamblers. However, some advice that leads to preventive measures is  always the best thing to do, but the problem is that not everyone is aware that the approach they have in gambling is not in accordance with what is recommended.
1210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: January 25, 2024, 05:58:01 PM
There was a friend of mine who visited me a day after and he was saying gambling every day draws you more closer to winning.

I asked him how?

He said when you keep trying luck every day you stand the chance not to miss your luck of winning, he also made reference to few people around our locality who won outrageous Money within 31 Dec to 1 January 2024, asking if I knew how often those people keep trying for them to have the winning they got.

I said No! He then say the more you space the more I missed my chances of winning but what I came to understand is that, the more anyone keeps trying the slimmer such persons turns into gambling addiction becus such person will always want to gamble regularly stirring up some forms of pressure to himself. When there is no money to gamble such person don't mind going extramile to source for funds since he has install this mentality of regularly gambling without giving break.

My question is do you think gambling every day is better? From his reasoning and points of narrations.


I understand that your friend thinks that gambling every day increases the chances of winning, however it's important to note that gambling is a game of chances and there are no guarantees of winning no matter how regular you participate. Gambling every day can turn you to an addict or a big loser in gambling. Gambling is a game, no matter the type of gambling you are into there are times you set limits on how often you you gamble, But you plan strategies, analyse games and forecast them targeting when you can get a better outcome.

This is the mindset of someone who is too focused on winning or has the goal of earning, usually this kind of mindset is for those who have entered the addiction phase so that we as people who think rationally really can't stop thinking about the idea of those who tell us to gamble every time. day with the aim of not missing any opportunities at all, but as you said and it is true that gambling is nothing more than a probability activity which means it is just a game of chance and there is absolutely no guarantee whatsoever for anyone to be able to win at the end of the session.

In my opinion, on the contrary, gambling too often will actually make us suffer a greater number of losses because whatever is done excessively is always synonymous with a bad point of view, and moreover, this is gambling which has absolutely no certainty and guarantee whatsoever, such as what we know in general, therefore it is an unreasonable idea if they say that gambling more often will make them successful in getting lots of wins, in essence they only see from one side and do not see from other points of view, especially those that lead to the possibility risk.
1211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: January 25, 2024, 05:17:23 PM
same as winning , if i gather x2-x5 of my capital then i will also leave the table example if I deposit 100$ and goes above 200-300 dollars? i am considering to stop but while there is a luck i will try upto  500 dollars and that is my maximum win and surely will stop.

This is the important thing of having a winning limit before we start gambling. It helps us to control our greed when we are on winning moment, because if we do not set a winning limit, our greed will be bigger when we are on winning moment most of the time. Simple example, we made $100 deposit and we turn it to $300. In this moment, we will usually think like "this is my lucky moment, I want to make more (lets say 500)" but unfortunately we lose the previous $300 balance.

There is some truth, and I am right that this idea will be useful for minimizing greed when we are in a winning situation, and on the other hand there are still other things that I think are worth paying attention too, we should never think about setting a winning target and just Apply the winning limit as you suggest because what we are afraid of is what if basically we can't achieve the victory we have. predetermined? Of course, this must also be taken into account because it cannot be denied that there may be an element of someone chasing victory until they reach a predetermined amount, is that true? yes, and this means we can't just prepare something from one side.

On the other hand, yes, I quite agree with your thoughts and ideas that this can prevent us from acts of greed, but on the other hand we also have to pay attention to other aspects and I will suggest something that is quite useful for us. complement the ideas you gave, namely apart from setting a winning limit. then we also have to determine other risk management such as limiting the amount of losses, for example if in one session you lose then I advise anyone to stop and rest first then continue again tomorrow or the day after according to your usual gambling schedule. . I understand and agree with your idea and on the other hand I would like to add that stopping at the right time before we lose a bigger amount is also a better decision.
1212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: While placing bet what comes your mind on: January 25, 2024, 04:34:54 PM
When placing a bet I always consider risk and reward.  If I lose, how will this effect me?  If I win, how will this effect me?  Is it worth taking the risk of losing and facing the consequences of my actions for the glory of the potential win?  Will I have fun either way or will I ruin my night if my bet doesn't land?  These are all things people should look at before risking their money on anything really.  If you ever find yourself in a position where a loss would effect your life or lower your mood, you're better off spending you money on something else.  Even hookers and blow will put a smile on your face...
for someone to into this it depends on the amount they are using to gamble at the moment and if they used the amount they haven't used before to gamble and it happens they lost it then fine such person can never be in happy mood because he has lost what he weren't set for, so what happened next is either go home and think about what they have lost or go somewhere else to catch fun with people around until the mood is being eased away. That is it's very crucial and compulsory that before using any amount to stake it should be that win the game is lost he can withstand the pain without having to affect other people around them.

This is the importance of having the right understanding of gambling, because by having the right understanding of gambling, to be honest, I don't think they dare to put an amount that exceeds their limits as you discussed here and it is clear that in the end luck doesn't come at the right time. , meaning that they lose at the end of the session so it is clear that there will be no feelings of happiness at all but instead they will be disappointed and regretful and usually this is the starting point for a gambler to be controlled by his own emotions due to defeat which is usually some action out of control that they are very likely to do because of their urge from uncontrolled emotions.

Yes, I understand that you are suggesting something quite good by telling them to immediately go home and find other entertainment to calm their minds, but we also have to look at the fact that it is not that easy to ignore the emotions that are taking over us, if it was easy to do then wouldn't it? Does that mean humans don't have desires? Obviously, this is a difficult thing because we are creatures of feeling and gambling is an activity that can stimulate the brain and mind as well as human feelings which in the end usually makes them unable to stop themselves from taking actions out of control. So what must be correct in my opinion is that you should never try to invest an amount that you can never afford.
1213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do i handle my first gambling experience on: January 25, 2024, 03:45:55 PM
I am writing out of experience. My first time gambling, I lost during the first round. I injected more and more money into my bet to ensure that I recover what I lost. I didn't recover anything, I gambled until I had no money on me left. My first mistake was not sticking to my initial budget, it didn't occur to me that gambling is base on luck and that I could lose everything I have if I keep chasing losses. Do not make the mistake I made, walk into the casino with an open mind.
This is what the first gambling experience for most people, good for you able to wake up and not become a gambling addict. As long as the gambler didn't use an emergency money for monthly needs, it won't cause a problem to their life.
It's true, it is often the case that newbie gamblers take a considerable amount of time to realize that chasing losses only serves to exacerbate their addiction. Such behavior can lead them to make rash decisions, such as dipping into their savings, selling off assets, and in the worst-case scenario, incurring significant debts.
As long as they still make rational decisions, the chances of them being an addict will be low. I agree that newbies aren't prone on being addicted on gambling, they will be a casual gambler as they go until they experience a massive loss that they are desperate to reclaim it or having a massive win that they want to experience again. That I think will be the trigger for their slow process of addiction. The gambling addiction can cause them into making bad decisions that most of the addicted gamblers do and can possibly cause their life to sink.

Well, that's right, as long as gamblers can think rationally then it is clear that indirectly they will be able to maintain the right understanding along with the awareness that exists within them, seeing things rationally or from a point of view based on logic will be able to make a gambler know what is going on. what they should do and what they should not do when they are in certain situations, such as choosing to stop when they experience one loss to prevent a larger amount of loss and also choosing to stop when they succeed in getting a win and prefer to cash out, however this is a choice The best thing is recommended so that you can stay awake in gambling involvement and as you said indirectly this will make us a little further away from the risk of possible addiction.

On the other hand, in my opinion, it is beginners who are usually more vulnerable to entering the addiction phase because it appears that they do not have much experience and they are still very ambitious in their gambling activities, so this is what makes them vulnerable to addiction because they don't really know about the dangers of gambling. , and in my opinion lately more beginners are too focused on the chance of winning which indirectly makes them seem to ignore the possibility of risk and this is the reason why I say that beginners are more susceptible to ending up addicted, but on the other hand I'm just saying this for those (beginners) who have absolutely no true understanding of the concept of gambling.
1214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your state on mind if your son stole your money to gamble? on: January 25, 2024, 03:23:44 PM
I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.

Totally disagree that children follow their parents completely and that kid stole money because he saw some of his parents or relatives do that. There is no way any parent would show and do that in front of the kid. No matter how bad or irresponsible parent is, he will never teach kid anything bad or illegal. The kid can get familiar with stealing from everywhere. Even from cartoons for example. There it is shown that stealing isnt something bad, because main hero will always come and punish the theft.

It's clear, no matter how bad or bad parents are, they still always want the best for their children. Maybe we often hear parents say "you have to be successful and be better than your father or mother." All parents want for a child to be able to make his parents proud in any way and maybe one of them is in the world of education where usually the achievements obtained by a child are usually always a source of pride for the parents and it is clear that it makes no sense at all if parents want or even  teach for a child to be involved in activities that are not recommended, whether it is  gambling or other criminal acts such as stealing, because in terms of consequences, I think it is clear that this can be detrimental and make the family's reputation bad in the eyes of other people.

In my opinion, the bad behavior that a child commits is none other than because they are influenced by the wrong environmental factors which ultimately make a child's behavior change for the worse to the point of daring to steal money from their family and this is why it is always important to pay full attention from parents so that they A child does not have wrong social interactions that cause changes in character and behavior.
1215  Economy / Gambling / Re: Responsible gambling on: January 25, 2024, 12:20:40 PM
the reason why Gambling is considered bad by majority of people is because of all the risks and chances of loosing money involved in it. which I think are true. but in actually gambling is only bad if it is done too much. excessive of everything is bad for us. not just gambling.
That's the point, excessive gambling habits are the reason why most people consider gambling bad because they don't gamble but they see how gambling ruins the lives of many around them, they lose all their money, sell their properties, and do all sorts of things that they shouldn't be doing just because of gambling, and these things create a negative image for gambling in the eyes of a society where people are not very open-minded and see things very differently.

If people take gambling as a fun hobby and an entertaining activity, spending a limited amount of money and time on it just to pass the time or even to try their luck, gambling would never have a bad image in the world. You don't get ruined or lose everything you have if you gamble responsibly and not excessively.

Not a few people gamble excessively, but in my opinion there are many people who gamble excessively so that they experience an addiction which is clearly detrimental to them, some even commit crimes, borrow money, and also sell the property they own as you said. . This happens because they themselves are addicted to gambling which leads them to ruin their lives. Many of them gamble inappropriately.

that's true, also the many people who have a bad view is because many people gamble excessively to the point that they experience problems in their lives, so the bad image of gambling is because the players are irresponsible by gambling, if they can be responsible well then It's unlikely that many people will view gambling negatively. Moreover, for those who have problems because of gambling, it is because of themselves, there is no element of coercion from the casino for them to play continuously and spend all their money in the casino, with the problems they have because they themselves are gambling excessively.
1216  Economy / Economics / Re: If you want to get rich, you have to become immune to the money.......! on: January 25, 2024, 12:00:14 PM
Focusing on creating value, serving others, and prioritizing the present work can lead to true richness. Successful individuals often adhere to principles like passion, resilience, and continuous learning. not only that, staying persistent with passion is an ideal way to make you rich.

All the aspects you say are aspects that can only be achieved by anyone by never stopping working and hoping for the best. Because persistence and enthusiasm in each person will be seen when everyone works at a job they like with a level of income that can be quite satisfying and continues without any thought of stopping after earning a certain amount of money. Principles like that have actually been around for a long time, it's just that sometimes not too many people use them, even though they are quite good principles if they continue to be carried out with the right time discipline.

Apart from that, the process of becoming rich is never instant and also never easy for everyone, even if someone is born into a rich family. However, this is only his family's wealth, which is basically not the result of his own hard work through life, so it is very important to apply the principles you mentioned to life if we want to make ourselves rich. And no longer depend on other people and our own parents for anything as long as we have the ability to do it ourselves through the path of life of our own choosing.

that's right someone will look enthusiastic if they do what they like as well as what they want like having their own business,  of course they will do it with enthusiasm and persistence from themselves other things they will also do such as doing the best for their business, because if they already have the intention to start a business then they must be ready to run everything Including the risks that will occur. what you said is true,  if it is carried out with discipline it will also be good for the future so someone will be excited if they have found what they want,  also by doing what they like I think it will be good for themselves.

to be rich or to be able to achieve financial freedom of course we have to work hard, especially if it is accompanied by smart work then it will be very good. some people who do things that do lead to good thing they tend not to last long. like running a job  sometimes they get bored and think about looking for another job in my opinion this has a good side,  because then they dare to take a step forward,  but if their decision is to quit then it is a bad decision. It's true what you said we should be able to live independently by not depending on other people or parents especially if we are older then I think it needs to be done. if they are already adults I don't think it's natural for them to still depend on their parents,  because someday they will have their own families that will be their own responsibility.
1217  Economy / Economics / Re: How to stay poor! on: January 25, 2024, 11:40:06 AM
There is no good reason to choose to remain poor, as poverty can bring different challenges in life.
Education, skills development and efforts to improve personal economic conditions can help avoid poverty.
No one wants to be poor forever and that's why many are trying their best to get out of it by doing those things in their capacity that shall bring them good life in the future.

First start off with having a good education but what OP is trying to tell if you want to be poor forever, you should yourself if you're doing a bad habits through on what he has mentioned.

That's true, because generally everyone wants financial freedom, so many people are looking for work by trying their best and working hard with the aim of achieving financial freedom. as you said, they work hard to get out of poverty, not survive poverty, if they really want to survive poverty then they don't need to bother doing things that lead to money, just being lazy is enough to help, but it seems No one wants their life to continue in the poverty phase.

I don't know what OP's purpose is for holding a title like this, because basically everyone doesn't want to be in poverty forever. Also, the large number of children attending school means that they must have an education that can guarantee their future, therefore it is almost impossible for anyone to want to survive in poverty.
1218  Economy / Economics / Re: Learn to use DEBT in a proper way to create asset on: January 25, 2024, 11:20:08 AM
Debt is something that a person should always avoid if possible. It is just an extra burden that can be a lifetime headache, so as long as borrowed money is intended to get an income source or boost current business it is okey. I have seen people trying to pay off his debt till his death and in some cases his children inherit this burden as well.

I don't understand what OP is trying to conclude here because I don't see debt as good or bad. If someone can pay off his debt in time even if he use that money to have some liabilities it shouldn't be any problem.
youre talking about bad unproductive debt where its just utilized for something consumptive not necessarily adding value to your asset worth as well as don't give you passive income of course it will be burden, i think what OP meant is that taking loan for buying something that gonna increase your asset worth and passive income instead, so that the debt will pay itself from the profit you get by renting a property for example if you try to borrow some money to buy property that actually has some worth since housing right now is needed more than ever and not everyone can afford to buy house many millennials are just renting house.
so basically you are taking some loan even though it seem like you are in debt but actually you don't really use that debt in consumptive way, if worst get to worst, then you can simply sell that property that's still in mortgage (its possible) and then be done with it at worst you just only lose some small amount of money.
If you are really that mindful about into your future then it would really be just that fine or normal that you would really be having those kind of advanced thinking on how you would really be making those things
to make it happen in the future on which you would really be needing to be wise when it comes to spending on which we do know that this is really that needing to have that kind of decisions on which
not all people would really be able to do so but rather they would really be focusing into things on which they could really be able to make their own and would satisfy themselves without having
those kind of plans into their lives.

Bad debts and Good debts, it would really be just that impossible that you cant really be able to make yourself that realize on determining about the two.
If you would really be going into the path that you would really be making such lavish life and making debts then you would really be ending up on
wrecking your life with.

Taking out loans carelessly will of course be a problem for us in the future, including our future, even though it is said to be in the short term, bad things could happen. especially by using debt only for unimportant needs, such as to fulfill style desires, I think this happens to many young people today, they tend to prioritize style over needs so that quite a few young people have debt.

In my opinion, everyone should have a plan for their life, including the future, because the future is determined by us from now on, if for example we use debt and spend it properly, such as for business needs or other things, then it is likely that this will not be a problem. but if it is as I said above then it will be a problem and it is possible that it could hinder or even become a problem in the future.
Of course, in my opinion, everyone can determine which choices are good and bad, but on the other hand, there are people who dare to take very risky actions, by taking out loans even though they are not really needed, such as just to fulfill their desire to be stylish. I think that's a bad move or maybe stupid.
1219  Economy / Economics / Re: Financial education and why it should be a priority. on: January 25, 2024, 11:00:03 AM
In my opinion, there are schools that teach things related to money, such as accounting subjects or majors, but I don't know whether all schools teach this or not, but what is certain is that there are schools that teach this as I have said in the field of accounting because I think we really have to study the financial sector including managing finances well, because that can determine our future  if we can't manage our finances well, it's possible that even if we have a large income it will always run out and it's not clear where the money we earn goes. That.

Regarding parents, I also think they have the right to give lessons about finances, because lessons don't just have to be at school or college there are many things that can be learned from the environment around us too and in my opinion school only teaches us to be smart, but not by teaching us how to make money for sure,  because of that I think we need to have good money management because when you have a job of course what you have to do is manage the money you earn properly. as best as possible don't let the money run out in vain, because if it continues like that then life will feel like everything is lacking.
Education is important, but context too. Accounting in school is like swimming on land. You know the moves, but water is different. Personal finance is about habits, decisions, and real-world issues, not just numbers. Understanding the economy, money flow, and balancing wants and needs are key

You're right about parents teaching financial savvy. Were they the first teachers? The problem is that not all parents can teach these lessons. Schools might teach practical money management. Giving kids the tools, not just a map, to navigate financial waters is key. Skills like planning, saving, and investing turn a decent salary into a rich future. Not just making money, but making it work for you

That makes sense, because we should understand everything related to our own interests. There are so many young people nowadays, they don't manage their finances well, they are easily tempted by new things that are currently popular, and those who have prestige mean they have to spend a lot of money just to be stylish. what I noticed is, they don't have jobs that make money, but they still force themselves to be stylish, this is normal, but if they force it it would be the same as killing themselves.

I think they are the first people to teach all good things, but in my opinion parents are more than just teachers. Even though not all parents can teach this, what is clear is that parents teach their children the best. and when they are adults, they will have their own thoughts including their own choices about what they will do, because the environment can also make them change and at the same time they will also learn many things outside the school or home environment. But what they have to pay attention to is not to make the wrong friends, because if their parents have taught them the best, then the child will of course do good things too, even though the surrounding environment can change them, but if they themselves have a good mindset, I think they will do good things, including with his finances.
1220  Economy / Economics / Re: The savings problem on: January 25, 2024, 10:40:12 AM
That's right, there should be a prediction that life does not always go without financial problems, for me vacationing and spreeing is a form of entertaining myself but that does not mean spending all of it or even taking from savings, I think there is still that. It is not a problem to fulfill desires including going and buying what you want as long as the ratio is maintained and there is still savings (clear management) that I feel when I need money including trading capital, of course it must be prepared rather than waiting for urgency.

going on holiday and going on an excursion is one way to pamper yourself, so that is a normal thing, in fact, in my opinion, what is not natural is people who do not want or have no desire at all to go on holiday, because in my opinion, taking a vacation is a necessity that must be done. with my own aim to refresh my mind, including making me relax because I like to vacation in places with a natural theme, and of course this requires money to do it, but the other side that must be considered is finances too, as you said, with holidays like This doesn't mean we have to spend all our savings. because that is not a good goal.

In my own environment there are many young people who go on holiday, but before going on holiday they collect money first or save, but only for the holiday, so after going on holiday they don't save any more. I think they have a little thought that needs to be corrected, because even if they don't have a purpose for going on holiday, they should save for their future and for their own good, also on the other hand, of course we will need emergency funds that we must have at certain times. , so in my opinion the importance of having savings is that it can help us at certain times, especially if an accident or illness occurs, of course this requires money to pay for treatment, so the younger generation should be able to think on this side.
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