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1581  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: mengapa banyak kaum muda enggan berhasa daerah? on: December 30, 2023, 10:34:32 PM
agar orang mudah memahami.
misal anda tinggal di jakarta pakai bahasa daerah sendiri yang anda ajak bicara pasti ga paham n bengong saja.
kecuali anda tinggal di daerah sendiri ya lebih bagus pakai bahasa daerah n bahasa lokal

Nah bener sederhananya seperti yang agan sampaikan, anak2 muda zaman sekarang  lebih memilih menggunakan bahasa indonesia/nasional bukan hanya untuk gaya aja tapi disisi lain juga memang tuntutan dari situasi, seperti yang agan sampaikan dan itu bener bgt apalagi untuk orang2 yang kerja di peratauan mau gak mau pasti mereka harus bisa menyesuaikan diri dengan keadaan sama situasi dalam hal komunikasi, tetapi di luar itu kalo memang kita hidup masih di lingkungan sekitar atau maksudnya masih di daerah sendiri maka jelas lebih baik tetap menggunakan bahasa daerah untuk mempertahankan kelestariannya, tetapi disisi lain yang jadi masalahnya akhir2 ini gak sedikit juga orang tua yang ngajarin anak2nya dari sejak kecil buat memakai bahasa nasional dan juga membiasakannya, untuk masalah ini menurut saya di luar kendali individu dan mungkin kita serahkan saja pada pemerintah yang lebih berhak dan yang mungkin mengerti gimana ngatasinnya.
1582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online or offline gambling which is more safer? on: December 30, 2023, 08:21:35 PM
I don't think you can just conclude that online gambling is more likely to have a greater potential for addiction, what is certain in my opinion is that in terms of the impact of gambling, online or offline, everything is still at risk and the question is, can you keep your gambling safe? Gambling addiction always starts with how the person treats or responds to his gambling activities, if you come with a low level of understanding of what gambling actually is along with the opportunities and risks that are there then obviously the possibility of addiction can always be closer, whether you are involved in online or offline casinos.

So you can't just look at it from one side that offline casinos won't cost you as much money, however at the end of the day as I said before it all comes back to how a person addresses and treats the gambling activity itself, even if they are involved in offline casinos if they basically always overdo it then obviously the potential for addiction is significant and the number of losses is definitely large. So if you want to be safe without losing anything then it is better not to touch gambling because this is a game of probability and risk. Wink
1583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: December 30, 2023, 07:59:24 PM
I don't think I would gamble if I didn't have enough money. although I know this sounds very impossible for gambling addicts because they are really addicted to all of this. I just don't gamble excessively, maybe my gambling is mostly just an object of research into how gambling is rather than just seeking wealth. I prefer that I have experience about gambling so that I have a topic to talk about with my friends.

Yes, maybe there are people who have a mindset like you and prefer not to gamble if they don't have money, but sometimes there are also gamblers who are in the same position as you who gamble with the intention of earning, so this confirms that Many gamblers come as a result of encouragement  from poor financial conditions so they come with the aim of multiplying the money they bring in even if it is a small amount. Lack of understanding or misunderstanding in the gambling perspective makes them come with the wrong mindset such as assuming that "gambling is a good place to make money" especially if at the beginning of their involvement they manage to win then obviously the level of hope  and confidence will be higher.

For someone who has  entered the addiction zone, they will not care what their financial condition is, they will only stop when their money runs out and even more than that, which means usually loan services become one of their alternatives to be able to return to gambling until many new problems arise. like being in debt. On the other hand, it doesn't matter if you really want to gamble as long as you understand the actual concept of gambling and how luck works, because then I think it is unlikely that you will act outside of common sense.
1584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 30, 2023, 07:31:53 PM

They are 6 points away from the club in the top 4 currently occupied by Leipzig. That's a pretty tiring distance to chase, but considering the number of matches remaining in the Bundesliha there are still a lot of points that are still very much in the chase. I think to be in the top 4 is still very doable, but I doubt if chasing the top of the table, because their point gap is now far away, and with the appearance of the club that occupies the top position, it looks like an impossible thing to do.
Indeed in football nothing is impossible, as long as there is still a chance as long as they still have a chance, but we also have to be realistic with what is happening at this time. Moreover, the ones they are chasing are also among the clubs that dominated the league for more than a decade.

Dortmund is in the 5th position right now. The past few weeks have been pretty bad for them. In the last 5 matches, they have only 1 win. They have 3 draws and one loss other than that. That is definitely not good enough from them. Now if I were asked if they will be able to finish in the top four or not, I would probably say that it is possible, and maybe even probable. But the way they are performing right now, it doesn't seem like they will be able to have consistent performance in recent future. So I wouldn't be so confident about them as well.

Yes it is true, Dortmund's performance lately is quite a concern, usually we see that they are always competing at the top of the standings with Bayern Munich in the race for the title, but specifically this season there really is a change that might be said to be quite significant from this team. As you said and it's a fact that in the last five matches they were only able to win one win three draws and one loss, honestly on the other hand what I think is unexpected is when they played in their last match against Mainz, although sharing points but honestly it's really a bad result for a team like Dortmund who is clearly favored when dealing with a team that is almost in the relegation zone.

On the other hand for the problem of what position they will finish I think I can't be sure yet, as you said the fourth position is something they might be able to get, although it is quite doubtful but I think it looks like they can finish in fourth position because after all there are still quite a lot of opportunities that they can take advantage of. Next up they play Darmstadt, overall they should be able to get full points against a team at the bottom of the table, but there's no denying that a bad result like the one against Mainz in the previous game is still possible.
1585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: December 30, 2023, 07:09:19 PM
If gambling is bad - why you gamble? Why you show bad example for everyone around you?  Grin
We really shouldn't set an example for anyone around us, especially children, because a child will quickly learn what he sees, let alone played by his own parents, so he will think that it is a fun game and will try the game outside without his parents knowing because The child will store the memory in his memory. I think it is a bad example that should not be shown to anyone so it is best to never gamble in front of children.

Parents are one of the people who have a big influence on a child and of course parents are also a child's main concern in any case because it is clear that parents always direct and teach their children in any case, especially nature and behavior, and if a child sees his parents involved in gambling activities then obviously a child will at least question with a high level of curiosity about what exactly his parents are doing, Even though it is unlikely for them to directly plunge and get involved, if their parents always show their gambling activities, whether intentionally or not, it will still trigger children's curiosity to be higher and there is a high possibility that there is potential for them to do the same thing, or the intention is to follow what their parents do.

A child will not immediately know that it is gambling but what comes to their mind is "it looks like fun", as we know that lately children are more often playing cell phones connected to the internet network, I used to see them watching cartoon videos and on the other hand online gambling promotions are increasingly circulating on several social media and obviously the chances are getting greater for a child to enter and get involved in one of the online casinos they find when playing cell phones. The point is that parents must be able to limit their activities, some are allowed to be shown and some must be kept out of the reach of children.
1586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: December 30, 2023, 06:49:57 PM
I try to get out of the game even if I multiply my deposit by 2 times. Maybe that's why I haven't had any big wins except for a few medium-sized ones. But for me it is much more comfortable to gamble. I think that if I ever win a big win I will certainly end the game, because I know that it is very easy to lose money in gambling, and win extremely difficult. The most interesting thing is that everything can go completely differently, because emotions make us make mistakes.
In reality some of us can not control ourselves during playing in gambling band yes I've already experienced  such a bad decision in my life cause when I am in the world of gambling I cannot control myself bad we all know that it's better to stop for while when we are in a winning mode but our greed will take over it and then addiction will follow. So it's better than we have s good mindset that we must not okay more after our win.

For a person that has made up his mind to continue with gambling despite he's loosing or not will same way have to embrace the outcome to his actions for not quiting when it was necessary, we have some people who can really afford spending much on gambling and not minding the consequences for that while some cannot just afford loosing and having that done repeatedly, yet they can't give it a caution to pause and restrategise for another day.

Being a gambler who takes full responsibility for everything that happens and that will happen is really recommended, it will be useful so that you do not feel deep regret as a result of the risks in gambling that you experience. Basically gambling is about winning and losing and if you want to engage in this activity then it obviously means that you will be part of the people who will feel victory or defeat in every session you do, I would say that they are losers if they want to win but cannot accept defeat, lol this is gambling that the end result is between winning and losing, you cannot think selfishly about winning because however gambling is always inseparable from the name of risk and even the possibility of risk is far greater than the chances of winning, and that is why the more you try, the more defeat dominates. So no one forbids anyone to gamble as long as they are able to accept all the consequences that have been set.
1587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why do people always play gambling even if they always lose? on: December 30, 2023, 06:05:45 PM
It is true that lately this type of slot gambling is increasingly popular and more and more people are involved in this type of game which of course the level of online gambling addiction is increasing, not only in your place but in my place too, almost most of the young people have been involved with this type of gambling, yes, which is quite alarming they don't have a job but strangely they can make deposits, I don't know where the money comes from but what is feared is addiction because obviously for situations that do not have a job and are involved in gambling to the point of addiction, it is clear that unexpected things are very likely to happen. As we know that addicted gamblers don't think about anything else but just want to gamble, and with a situation that is not possible in terms of finances then obviously there is a possibility of them committing crimes such as maybe stealing or robbing one of the shops, and that is what is feared, the fact is that gambling can change a person to be worse than before.

Not understanding what the odds are in gambling makes them incapable of accepting the reality of the end result in gambling, which means losing, and obviously for people who come with the intention of earning will usually always pursue winning to make a profit or to break even.
1588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not everyone deserves to hear of your winning in gambling. on: December 30, 2023, 04:54:14 PM
Actually I think in this problem it is difficult to control, or that means not everyone will think that the winning information they share with others can trigger or thwart someone's process to stop gambling, they will not think to this point and they just assume that something like this is normal and no problem to do and share with others, especially some of their closest friends. So maybe in my opinion in the problem of its impact depends on someone who listens to it, if indeed they remain ordinary and do not feel motivated to return to gambling in the sense of having assertiveness in the process of getting out of the gambling zone then obviously they will be fine, and maybe what the OP means is that it refers more to some people who are easily tempted by the victories that other people or their friends have managed to achieve so that they return to getting involved in gambling, so this depends on how someone can maintain their assertiveness in planning to be able to stay in the process of getting out of gambling activities.
1589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling. on: December 30, 2023, 04:27:01 PM
Definitely depending on the outcome.

If I win, I'm satisfied. If I lose, I'm depressed, but a short team kind of depression, if that exist.  Smiley

I'm still happy though that majority have voted "Satisfied", this means most of us here are just really gambling for fun. Personally, I see fun when I win, but it's never fun to lose gambling but good thing it doesn't hunt me that it would come to the point it will affect my other errands in life.

Of course we can't lie about the feelings we feel after seeing/knowing the final result of the gambling session we did, like you said it's very simple but it's very clear that whoever it is (no matter what the goal is) when they get a win then obviously they will feel happy with the reaction of varied sensations, and vice versa if indeed the final result is losing then even though they come with the intention of seeking entertainment I think there will always be a sense of disappointment even though small from his heart.

So it is clear that we cannot lie to ourselves about the feelings we experience especially when we lose, but unfortunately some people overreact when they are in both situations, that is, there are always some people who when they win they overreact so that they want such situations to continue to occur by pursuing victory and increasing expectations, and vice versa when the situation turns out to be losing there are also people who are unable to accept these results who end up returning to gambling with the intention of revenge and pursuing break-even which is basically very difficult. So however in gambling both situations win or lose still have the potential for gamblers to enter the addiction phase, and after that it is no longer pleasure and enjoyment that you will feel but maybe some pressure.
1590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 30, 2023, 03:57:05 PM
"Rich people win more than poor people" honestly for the problem of winning in my opinion rich or poor does not really matter, and maybe the difference is in terms of the amount they get, which is where the rich get a big win because the amount of budget they use is also large and far from the amount of budget allocated by poor people on gambling, simply put the rich might bet $1000 in each session while the poor only bet $10, if you calculate the number of wins then of course the rich will win more than the poor because it looks from the capital they bring much bigger.

But I think in terms of gambling it is not about rich or poor because obviously the situation will not always be in our favor, meaning that rich people can also experience defeat with a large amount and far greater than the defeat experienced by the poor. I think it's a game of perspective for a situation, which I've explained above refers more to who can get the bigger winnings from gambling between the poor and the rich, but if you ask me about who will win more often in each session between the poor and the rich then only luck can answer that.
1591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 30, 2023, 03:37:55 PM
Game of luck not everytime happened sometime your luck is agenest you. That time your experience work. In gambling luck every time with you always it agents you. Sometime it with you. If you are depend on luck in gambling then you are finished. Because it's very low your luck work.play with skill experience and cold mind don't do it in stress and other thinking that is the main reason for your losses.
If you play luck-based gambling, you really need luck so if you want to win, you must have luck. We also don't know when luck will come, so we can only hope that when we gamble, luck will come and help us get a big multiplier to win a lot of money. That's why we can only enjoy gambling as entertainment and don't need to pin too high hopes on gambling to make money. If we want to make money, we better look for a more promising job to make money.

Better to have that kind of mindset, as luck is never accurate I mean, you can't assure that it will be there in each gambling session that you participate, the way you express your opinion is valid it's best to have decent job instead of hoping for luck to come and make your bets win, though we all know that there are people who loves to take that big risk and hope that aside from luck that mostly influence the outcome but also the knowledge that they acquire with the gambling experienced that they participate each time they place their bets.

It also help them not just to lean with luck but also with the assessment and good research with the game they are playing, they might have that opportunity to win in gambling.

It is true that such a mindset and point of view is more advisable to apply to the gambling they do, emphasizing and convincing themselves that the workings of luck are always unpredictable, in my opinion by learning to understand luck and applying it to gambling activities it will further minimize actions that are out of control or that are not recommended. I understand that victory will definitely be obtained but the problem here is that it is not that easy to get it because you will not always get luck in every gambling session. For myself honestly this activity is just to fill empty time when I'm off work and without expecting any winnings, and also yes it's true buddy that it's better to find another job that is more certain in terms of income, or that promises to give them a monthly salary to make ends meet, hoping that winning from gambling will only get you into a lot of trouble because obviously in terms of risk is far greater than the chances of winning.

1592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is you who can't stop betting. on: December 30, 2023, 02:50:21 PM
I believe that one of the biggest causes is idleness!
A lonely person always has a mental disturbance inside his mind, especially if that lonely person lives a lazy life or is lonely without work, then the possibility of those people being attracted to gambling is very high. All these people once addicted to gambling do not get rid of that gambling habit easily.
Living idleness can be one of the reasons to be attracted to gambling because busy people do not find enough time to spend gambling while a lazy person chooses harmful vices like gambling to pass the time. All these people keep themselves away from various social events and involve themselves in harmful addictions like drug addiction and gambling.

It makes sense, because usually the desire to gamble, in my personal opinion, always comes when you are not doing anything, or that means you have no activities and are just silent without knowing what to do, which finally for those who have gambled before will cross their minds to try to get involved in gambling again whether it's in the hope of winning or just to fill the time, it's out of control and only they know what they came for. True, the reason why gamblers or even those who are already addicted are always difficult to quit is because as we know that habits are very difficult to break, in any case and not in gambling alone.

Yes, having a lot of free time because you don't have a job can certainly be an indication that has great potential for someone to then get involved in gambling, and having a lazy nature makes them justify any means to be able to get money because obviously the name of the need cannot be tolerated which means that most likely the mindset of looking for income in gambling is very likely to cross their minds until in the end they make gambling an alternative to making money, this is a scenario to enter the addiction cycle.
1593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: December 30, 2023, 02:29:40 PM
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In some cases gamblers who end up addicted always start with mistakes in putting hopes and expectations so that it makes them suffer a lot of problems, especially in terms of finance. Of course it's really not advisable to put your hopes or expectations on gambling because after all this is a probability activity which means it has absolutely no certainty of anything other than chance, so you better keep yourself safe with some precautions, because that's all that really matters.
there are lots of mistakes gamblers make that make them addicted and you have explained one of the reasons and it makes sense, but another thing apart from placing hope in gambling is the mindset about the big win they get can trigger a gambler to become curious and want to experience the same sensation. after getting a big win and gamblers will ignore managing money well because they only think they want to get the same big win as before so they become addicted after money management fails.

advice is always given here that dont think too much about something big from gambling because winning is just luck that doesn't know when it will come and when it will go so far that we can't catch up. however, there are still many gamblers who ignore these small things which can have a big influence on their gambling, and addiction has even increased in recent years because they fail to manage their finances, ignoring any advice from other people.
so from this story we should be able to conclude that any advice from other people is very important to listen to and always dont ignore discipline in managing finances so as not to lose control.

I think it is still related to the statement that I have previously conveyed about hope, so the scenario is like this, usually someone will feel an extraordinary sensation when the first win they get in their gambling especially if the win is a large amount, in conditions like that if they cannot hold the sensation so as not to overdo it then obviously a change in mindset will occur, they assume "it looks like this is a good place to earn" and then it is clear that they will put greater hopes by pursuing wins like the previous one because their confidence becomes higher. In such a situation, it is clear that hope overcomes common sense and that is what makes it difficult for them to think about implementing the controls and limits that they have previously established.

That's good advice, understanding the concept of gambling actually along with how luck works really needs to be emphasized and learned, believing that the big win that was successfully obtained was a "coincidence" will make them not put excessive expectations. For those gamblers who still ignore some important points in gambling that are useful for prevention I think it's better to let them go if they are stubborn and don't want to listen, because after all they will feel a significant impact which will usually make them regret it which might finally restore their consciousness a little.
1594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? on: December 29, 2023, 10:44:50 PM
You only need to look at how slots are designed ... to understand how you are getting bamboozeled. I call it the "frog in the pot" scenario, where you slowly turn up the cooking temperature, so that the frog does not realize that he is being cooked.

Have you noticed how your money are drained over a long period, without you realy noticing it? You play.... lose a little, win a little ... but your balance slowly goes down over time... before you know it, it is all gone.. and you deposit again.
And accordingly we need to keep track of the money we have spent while gambling to avoid falling into that scenario, because if you do not then it is easy to lose way more money than what you thought in a relatively short amount of time, but when people are having fun they hardly think about things like this and if this happens often enough that behavior could easily become a habit, and once an activity reaches that stage it is very difficult to stop yourself from doing it as now it has become one of your default responses when gambling.

Yes maybe what you are suggesting is quite good by recording some of the money allocation on gambling for a reminder, but on the other hand you have also said something that is in accordance with the fact that it is very difficult to be able to do this, not very difficult but maybe not easy. And even if you can then I think there are still other possibilities that could be an indication for something much worse to happen, we must understand that we are human beings who have feelings and emotions, and it cannot be denied that there are always people who are easily provoked or provoked by emotions, the scenario is that it could be that when they see in their records that the number of losses is very large in a certain period of time then isn't there still a possibility for an idea to emerge that comes out of emotions such as chasing defeat? Of course things like that are still possible when someone is unable to accept defeat, after all losing money cannot be said to be okay even if you come just for fun.

Therefore I think if someone really  does not want to experience problems in his life, especially financial problems, it is better not to touch gambling at all, no matter what your goal is, after all there are still many other activities that can provide pleasure if your goal is for entertainment and without the risk of losing.

1595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not everyone deserves to hear of your winning in gambling. on: December 29, 2023, 10:13:48 PM
Thanks for bringing this. I can understand what you are communicating. There is a good reason a gambling site is capable of paying big winning and letting people to know, so that those people that know about it can be motivated to gamble the more. This is just like what's you are also saying. If a gambler is telling people about the big amount of money he won, this will trigger people that he is telling to gamble or to gamble more if the person is already a gambler. Best to keep this to themselves.

I think maybe casinos have thought or planned for this from the beginning, their ability to pay out large amounts of winnings by gamblers is not something that casinos give away for free, or maybe there is another purpose that casinos have planned for. Simply put and the logic is that gambling winnings come in the form of money and the fact is that everyone wants money, so when one person wins and the casino pays them then we cannot simply say that the casino lost some of their budget to give to the winner, but the fact is that there is a reciprocity that can be greater than the large amount that the casino has given to the winner, That is usually people who manage to get a win, especially with a large amount, then surely they will tell their luck to one or even several of their friends and that's where the casino will again take advantage of several friends of the winner who are also clear they will participate in gambling at the casino that has been won by his friend, not only that because usually people who have managed to get a win at a casino then usually they will come back again to gamble there by putting hopes for a much higher number of wins. On the other hand, I think this is a statement that is in accordance with the facts.
1596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling. on: December 29, 2023, 08:31:02 PM
We are all human and no matter that we gamble for fun, when you lose, you will have that losing feelings, because nobody plans to lose or loves to be a loser.  If you win, you will be happy, what matters is that you were able to control yourself from using more than the amount that you can afford to lose. People that used more than the amount that they can afford to lose are the one that when they lose, they Wil feel remorse, because they never expected it. The outcome of the game is what will determine your emotion at that moment.

The truth is we can't lie to ourselves about the feeling when we experience a losing situation, even though you use the amount that you are able to account for from the beginning but still at least a sense of annoyance will always be there when the final result turns out to be really losing, a small disappointment always can't be missed. This is gambling which is nothing but about winning and losing and as you said even though we come with the goal just for fun but still a sense of disappointment will always be there, I think it is natural because we as humans have feelings. The idea of gambling for entertainment I think is nothing more than a statement that can make us a little avoid acting out of control, because when you don't take this activity too seriously then obviously the emotions that come out will not be too big.

So keep gambling as an activity to fill your empty time, don't put any expectations on the winnings, just think of the winnings that are there as a reward for your involvement in gambling, and it's better to be strict in the limits you have, after all that's what matters, you can minimize everything by controlling and limiting the amount of money you have but you can't make the winning percentage more likely, because after all this is just a game of probability that has no certainty.
1597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 29, 2023, 08:10:47 PM
Gambling is never the game of the rich winning more than the poor is the game of how lucky the player is and how far the player can go. We need to face the fact most people on the internet only share something they want the public to know about them.
A rich person may post how he/she won millions through a game but he/she will never tell or show the times he lost before the winning and the huge fund wasted along the line.

Gambling is for all, just as you've said already, this is not what the rich only have the right to enjoy doing because they have the money to use for it, base on my own understanding, i think the average people gambles most because they have the time and money to use for gambling, we may class the rich as people who sone of them don't even have time for gambling just the way other people do, we all have equal chances for winning when we are gambling and none is more favourable than the other between the poor gamblers and the rich ones, everyone is doing the same, what makes the difference is in what we know and how we have the understanding in what we do while gambling.
Gambling is not for all. It's for only the people who understand how to play, the rules and regulations of the game.
Every individual who doesn't understand the rules and regulations of gambling has already lost the game before he/she plays.
Having said that, despite the busy level of the rich, their enthusiasm level for gambling is what will determine how they find time to gamble and the rich are always more favorable by casinos than the poor due to the casino loyalty program which is always based on each players bet history fund.

True, gambling is only recommended for those who have full responsibility for everything that will happen to the money they bring, especially losing, the ability to accept risk is a trait that must be possessed by gamblers who can also be called responsible gamblers, understanding how to play, knowing the concept of gambling and also knowing or understanding how luck works is something that gamblers must have before they finally get involved. Because it is clear that in gambling there are so many things that look tempting that things like that can really affect the mindset of gamblers, which in the end if they are influenced, they will usually get lost and end up with addiction.

Of course from most gamblers it is clear as you said that casinos prefer rich people because they have more power in terms of allocating money to bet compared to poor people who only bring a small amount of funds, but in terms of service and game probabilities I think everything is the same whether you are rich or miskins.
1598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 29, 2023, 07:23:41 PM

The thought of making a steady profits from gambling is the road to possible addiction or even grave loses at the end,  this is because,  alot of time many of those who have chosen to chase that direction have ended up losing,  and for sure if care is not taken the run into debt and that will take away every sense of success from them, gambling both to the gambler and the casino is a win some and lose some game,  as long as you have the ability to control what you chose to gamble with is enough to stay that way,  and since gambling is filled with unpredictably,  it's now a fact that we may not see anyone gambler who can be referred to as successful.

But to say who between the player vs the casino lose the most,  then I will say the player but also casinos lose as well but it's a business, any ways and gamblers know that the house edge is always there to favour the casino on the long run.

And that is a wrong thought that is really not recommended, honestly I can already confirm that anyone who brings such a mindset to their gambling involvement then they do not take long to enter the addiction phase. As we know that excessive expectations are always a major problem in gambling, I understand that everyone wants to win but if you try to find victory with excessive expectations and methods then the results will actually be reversed, meaning that you will even experience big problems because the methods you apply make it easy for you to end up with addiction.

The solution still goes back to the main point as a preventive measure, which is some good self-control and boundaries, I think there is no other way to deal with it so that they do not easily fall into and end up with addiction. Changing mindsets and perspectives on gambling really needs to be done, but I think on the other hand most of them don't realize that the mindset they carry is wrong, the problem is in the first thing they see which is the winning opportunities that they overestimate. I think the word success is only for the croupiers who own the casinos and not for the gamblers who are pitting their luck against luck, because obviously the ones who really earn are the casinos and not the gamblers because this is business for the casinos.
1599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are some things you should always avoid while gambling ? on: December 29, 2023, 07:02:14 PM
Of course, for this problem, I would advise you to maintain your awareness firmly in every gambling session that you do, because only that will be able to make you avoid several actions that are out of control when gambling, such as what usually happens is greed or inaction. chasing losses to break even. Therefore, I hope that anyone understands better what gambling is or what the basic concept in gambling means, losing is something that is bound to happen and winning is a prize that you will get occasionally and depends on how lucky you are at that time. So with a good understanding of gambling, it is clear that I think it is unlikely that you will carry out some actions out of control which are not recommended and which must be avoided for your safety in the long term.
1600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 29, 2023, 06:15:51 PM
This can happen in many cases because there is no trick or system to win from gambling with the help of which you can win from any gambling betting, casino. But smart gamblers follow some simple guidelines that make them win many times or create a way to reinforce their attitude. There are many people whose luck is very strong and they win again and again from gambling so you can call it a gift from your creator. You have to remember that gambling is a game that results in losing or winning but within it you have to be able to take a lot of risk.

I agree with your idea that there is no way to get a win and it all comes down to how lucky you are in the session, which is why most of us have probably heard some advice about self-control and some boundaries that must be applied if we really want to survive and not suffer the consequences of our gambling involvement, because on the other hand that's all we can do to minimize the possibility of unwanted risks. So simply put, the victory will come by itself provided that you are in a lucky situation  and because luck is always unpredictable, therefore what needs to be considered and applied is only a few restrictions for safety.

Another thing is that I would honestly ask what kind of gambler do you mean by a smart gambler who can get a winning streak? You must understand that gambling is nothing more than a game of probability and that means it makes no sense if you say there are gamblers who have a way to get a winning streak. On the other hand if you can provide evidence such as they are now one of the billionaires then I think I'm interested in following it, on the other hand honestly I only believe the real victory is only for the bookie who owns the casino.
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