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1701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers trickily claims they wins the bet while they never did. on: December 20, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Pure facts. I know that most gamblers fake their wins. And most time it is because they have had a big win in the past on one or more gambling occasions so there is this pride or should i say hierarchy they would want to maintain. In a situation where they have been receiving praises from other gamblers based on how good they are in gambling. They would love to maintain that reputation this is why most of them lie about wining when they did not.


Also on another way they can pretend to have won if they have not been winning at all or for a longtime so that people would not think they are total losers in gambling. This is particular of newbies, they may feel ashamed of playing for a longtime without recording any winning and when friends insult them alot they plan to show winning tickets of other people and what is even funny is they can search online for big wins and showcase on their social media handles as their own wins. That is deceipt they keep doing until they win theirs.

I think things like this are not uncommon and I often find several people like that, including one of my friends who is also very far from lucky in the sense of not never getting a win but the amount of time it takes just to get that one win. very long and very difficult even though he was quite often involved in gambling, especially slot machines or occasionally sports betting.

I don't know what things influence or are the main cause. If we look at it in terms of method, I don't think there is any method that can be done or what it means that can increase the chances of luck more closely, especially for types of gambling that purely depend on luck alone. and perhaps it is true that the more appropriate reason is that they are really far from lucky so it is difficult to record a win, and also of course with a situation like that then I think it is natural that there are some, including their friends, who like to tease them with some scorn or insults. not too significant but it cuts to the heart haha, so it's not strange I think if some gamblers like that make claims that they have won in various ways and one of them you have mentioned is showing off other people's winnings which they took from social media, even though in reality lie.
1702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 20, 2023, 07:24:00 PM
I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
In today's society, people who are addicted to gambling are very little trusted and liked by people. And when people see a successful gambler, society thinks that he is addicted to winning and has lost his physical and mental balance inside. But actually this is not the right thinking at all because a successful gambler is never an addict because he spends both money and time to win and also puts in a lot of effort. Both gamblers only try hard to succeed and invest their money for that purpose, but here they are not so much addicts. If they had become so addicted, they would never have gone ahead and invested such money and efforts, and I think a gambler always aims to succeed by putting his own efforts into action.

Even I think that those who are successful gamblers cannot be seen as addicts. In fact they are the survivors.
If they were addicts then they would be keeping on playing and losing money.
Since they have become successful, they would have found way to control their emotions and manage the risks in gambling.
Such people cannot be called as addicts from my perspective.

Perhaps the word success is meant in this context and more precisely is success or success in managing the gambler's own finances and self-control which means that they know what to do and what not to do when in certain situations, the success referred to is not success in general which is like people achieving success in the business world which means that there is a high point that has been reached, because of course in gambling there are no stages other than coming with money as capital and going home with an answer between winning or losing.

Another thing is that of course I quite agree with your idea that successful gamblers cannot be called addicts, which actually there is a significant difference if we dig deeper, successful gamblers are as I and you have mentioned that they manage their gambling activities well so that they do not cause many problems in their lives, especially in their finances, while addicted gamblers they simply cannot miss a single time not to gamble, which means they are excessive and have an approach that can be said to be aggressive, so maybe I think another word for successful gamblers is those who are smart.
1703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: December 20, 2023, 05:58:44 PM
In these days where online gambling is available and keeps growing, more people get addicted to it rather than the usual casino. Indeed, the new generations have been comfortable playing at home, and aside from that, the easy accessibility which you don't need to travel anymore. But I see the consequences are huge knowing that even young age are already gambling. More and more gamblers become addicted as they continue knowing that they can play anytime and anywhere as long as they internet. Until this was not regulated by the government, many people couldn't control its temptation because some influencers were also advertising them.

Well I also see the same part here, now the times are very developed and everything is sophisticated, and of course for problems in the world of gambling as you say that people no longer need to go to a physical casino which of course requires the intention to go and also requires travel costs such as fuel and take the right time in the midst of their busy activities, with the development of increasingly modern times it is clear that everything is easier to do, not only online-based casinos but also several other things such as platforms that make it easier for people to shop easily and quickly have sprung up and we are familiar with it.

Of course this situation is the cause of more gamblers entering and being trapped in the addiction zone because they can come whenever they want by just using the gadget they have which is of course connected to the internet network, running out of budget is not a problem because they have plenty of time to go to the ATM machine to deposit the fiat money they have, of course this freedom and convenience is what I think is the main cause of their addiction, but on the other hand not entirely too, because obviously for some people who still have the right point of view about gambling then I think they will not be that easy to get stuck in the addiction cycle, so maybe with all the conveniences that exist in online casinos it is only an indication and possibility for some people to enter the addiction zone.
1704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: December 20, 2023, 05:29:55 PM
In my opinion almost all steps that states take to "protect" gamblers have no real benefit. If they wanted to really help people with gambling addiction, they could open more free rehabilitation centers, advertise them on central television, launch information campaigns that would explain the negative consequences of mindless gambling. All this costs money, which will have to be allocated from the budget, so they simply do not make real steps, but only create the appearance of hard work.

It doesn't look good if they will open a rehabilitation centers of addicted gamblers as it will only imply that addiction has already become rampant.

Gambling is controllable by the government, since they regulated it, they have the right to ban it, or consider it as illegal. However, seeing the money that flows to the funding of the government, they can't make that kind of decision to stop, so it's really unto us now, either we become responsible, or be on the other side and experience the effect of addiction, after all the government doesn't care about us since gambling is not a necessity.

There's no benefit to the government by actually stopping gambling. In fact, they make lots of money by taxing gambling income.
They not only tax citizens for gambling income but also tax gambling operators for running casinos.
So its only in the hands of the individual if he wants to quit his gambling addiction.

The money that revolves in casinos is huge, and if the government legalizes more than 10 casino situations for example in the country then obviously the amount that the government gets from the calculation of all taxes provided by casinos every year is no joke,  the amount is very large. There was once a case in my country where one of the small casinos was caught by the authorities and when they entered the interrogation room they  said that the amount of income they could get in a month could buy 10 houses in urban areas in my area which is of course clear the amount they get from  many gamblers involved especially those who lose is very high.

As you said, not only taxing the casinos but also the people involved in  gambling as a condition for the legality of  gambling in the eyes of the public, so of course this is a new income place for the government with a huge amount of tax, so it means that it will not be that easy for the government to consider opening a rehabilitation  center for addicts, however this is a big advantage, and I'm sure some people  acting in the government will maintain this situation, many rats will continue to dive while drinking water. On the other hand I hope you the public can just think more realistically in situations like this..
1705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: December 20, 2023, 05:07:10 PM
~snip~
For them greed cannot be concluded as the main problem that will make them feel more regretful at the end of the session, but usually in the early stages when they are able to achieve victory then they think that greed  becomes an alternative that must be chosen for the sake of a larger amount. Yes of course, luck is always unpredictable after all, as you said and I also admit that greed does not always end in disappointment but there are also some who manage to get a bigger amount because luck is still there, but stilll everything is still gray because there is absolutely no certainty and luck is always unpredictable.

The prohibition against greed refers more to minimizing actions so that you can enjoy the previous victory, because usually something that is done in excess is always bad, especially this is gambling which always depends on luck. If there is certainty and assurance then there is obviously no problem if you want to apply greed. We must understand that the name of satisfaction has no end point, which means that  even if you  are able to get a large amount then obviously after that your hopes  and expectations will also be even greater while on the other hand gambling still depends on luck. That's why we should emphasize limits and control, because the more often you receive results that are not in accordance with your wishes, the deeper you will fall into the abyss..
Greed is the nature of someone who never feels enough with whatever results they get, for those who are greedy they might think they will get bigger profits if they continue their winnings and will not stop even though the winnings are almost finished, usually they will stop if they are truly aware and regret it because greed is within them and it will be detrimental to themselves. We must be able to accept any outcome and try not to gamble more or do reckless gambling after a winning spin we never know what luck will be like ahead whether it's still there or not, we have to enjoy it and immediately withdraw it. If we have made a profit, don't expect it to multiply or the money will disappear if you continue the game session.

Yes, you are right, perhaps by minimizing the limits you can enjoy previous winnings, but the question is, are greedy gamblers capable of doing this? because greed is always present in gamblers if they feel dissatisfied with the results they get, especially if they have experienced a large enough loss so they try to win more to recover their losses. Indeed, we have to understand this and we have to be able to be satisfied because dissatisfaction will never end until at any time we will feel even more dissatisfied, so we should be wiser in using our time to gamble.

Of course, the wrong point of view driven by hope will obviously result in a certain level of greed which of course as I said that it is an approach that they will certainly choose when they are in an exciting situation, not only that because hope also encourages them to further convince themselves that the victory will definitely be repeated again but with a larger amount, when in fact they themselves do not know for sure whether luck is still there or has disappeared. On the other hand I think they will only really realize when regret comes which means that it turns out that the greed they applied did not make the final result better at all but just the opposite that they lost all the wins they had managed to get at the beginning of luck.

That's why we often say that you will be able to get better when you already have previous experience, but however we still can't be sure whether with that bad experience they will be able to really regret and then fix everything or instead they act even more aggressively, I think it comes back to themselves about what they will choose. As I said above, they will realize and not apply their greed in the next session when they already regret it because in the previous session when they applied greed the situation was even worse, so with that then I think they will no longer prioritize satisfaction.
1706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 20, 2023, 04:47:35 PM
Of course not everyone watches sports for entertainment. Some also enjoy playing for betting results. Moreover, gamblers tend to pay more attention when watching a game than other people. But it is entirely up to one's choice what to do. There are many gamblers who are not motivated to watch the game unless they are betting. But the main thing is that those who are able to control themselves in gambling can enjoy their gambling or else there is a possibility of losing all their money.
It is true that not everyone watches sports matches for entertainment or to see the games being played, for those who place bets of course they want victory on the team they place a bet on to be able to win their bet and this depends on each person.
Yes, for some people who like betting on sports, of course they will be more interested in watching it and when they don't bet, they don't like watching the match, but for those who like sports, of course they will still watch their favorite team's match even though they don't place a bet.

Of course, all of them are divided, or in this case it is true that there are those who come just because they want to take advantage of the moment of betting by only putting the budget to bet and there are also those who come because they are based on their love for  sports and there are also those who take advantage of the moment by choosing both, or that means liking sports while putting the amount of budget to bet. Of course, which one they choose depends on their preferences and intentions.

For myself I prefer to watch my favorite team play, but sometimes I also put a little amount on the line if I  have money that I can account for, but not as often as you might think because in gambling I always put something on when I feel I can account for everything.
1707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 20, 2023, 04:27:01 PM
Quote from: Dewi Aries
I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.
Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.

Yes I can slightly conclude from what you said that awareness is one of the most important factors to be able to end everything with the best decision, with enough awareness then obviously they will be able to consider some things that never thought of if their situation was far from awareness, or that means awareness will keep them awake and safe, if at the same time they managed to get a win then obviously the first thing that will be done is memiluh to cash out because the worry and fear of losing  money that has been won will play a role there.

As a result, it's important to be  aware of what you're getting yourself into and what you're getting yourself into, as well as what you're getting yourself into and what you're getting yourself into.
1708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 19, 2023, 09:33:53 PM


Obviously we cannot say that if a person spend this much hours or this much money, then he is classified as gambling addicts. In my opinion, if a person gamblers more than his capacity in terms of time or money, then he can be called as gambling addict.

If a gambler keep on gambling with money he can't afford to lose and do not stop gamble then he is addict. Also if anyone spends more time in gambling and he fails to do other important task in his life and focus only on gambling then he is gambling addict. Here we do not consider whether he is losing or winning in gambling, in both cases we consider that he is addicted to gambling.

But think in this, if a gambler keeps gambling more than they can afford to lose, that still doesn’t mean that they are an addict. What I mean is that someone can gamble recklessly but still isn’t addicted to it. For instance, let’s say there’s someone who doesn’t gamble often but then he/she wants to gamble today but gamble just too much or unrealistic amount they can’t bear the loss for, you won’t call them addicted. Like I said, time spent is a factor that shows addiction but even that isn’t always addiction. Addiction is more like the urge to always do something.

Well maybe the person you mentioned is not an addict because generally speaking an addict is someone who can't miss any time not to gamble, but maybe I would say the person you mentioned is one of those people who are careless or maybe stupid to take such an aggressive approach even though they come to gamble only occasionally.

It's true and I probably wouldn't call them addicted either, but one thing you should know is that it's "the characteristics of a person/approach that will soon become addicted" as simple as that and I think it's obvious.
1709  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 19, 2023, 08:55:43 PM
Gambling is kind of thing that actually don't need to teach anyone, anyone can found it automatically by seeing others doing betting locally or by seeing advertise on tv or YouTube,even there are many websites that redirect you to gambling websites without your permission. So your friend could know about gambling through such process, then he'll blame to whom? Any why should blaming each other when it totally depends on a person how he wish to manage this thing. Now he is mature enough and need to learn how not to addicted with it but use it for fun or totally avoid it if necessary. Blaming other is kind of lame excuse & lame trick to hidden his own faults

Many people cannot or do not want to learn to take risks and do not want to realize their mistakes. These people always try to follow other people's advice and recommendations, and then when they lose money they blame those who gave them advice. I have known such people and believe me it is better not to have anything to do with them. A couple of times I got into trouble thanks to them and now I not only do not give such people advice, but also do not communicate with them at all.

Starting from not understanding gambling or the basic concepts of gambling and also not being able to realize that the advice of others that they follow is a push that is not true and only makes them stray further and further, when other people including their friends get a number of wins then they will ask how their friends do it so they can get a win, and obviously after that he will definitely try the same way with the aim of wanting to have the same luck, but are you sure that the final result will really match? Not necessarily my friend, because after all luck can't always be fully predicted, and of course when the final result loses they will most likely blame others because the method that person gave did not work for him. Quite sad, and yes there is also a point that you better stay away from people like that, annoying, they don't understand gambling but want to win and when they lose they blame others silly.
1710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? on: December 19, 2023, 08:35:24 PM
The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
The terms and conditions of a service should be mandatory for every potential customer to read, this can prevent you from accidentally breaking the rules in the future. I know reading the terms and conditions of a service is tedious, but useful.

Of course, I think it is indeed a very important thing, it is impossible for the casino to also provide something that is not useful for gamblers who want to get involved, nothing else I know is that the casino provides conditions for gamblers, namely to avoid accusations of fraud, or the intention is that the casino avoids accusations from gamblers who do not understand the rules and regulations in the casino.

Yes, it's true that sometimes it's quite boring and I think that feeling is very common for some people, usually they will be lazy when reading something that is certainly quite long but after all it's for the common good, after all you don't need hours to just read a notice like that, by taking at least 1-5 minutes it doesn't matter because it's for your own benefit to avoid breaking the rules which even the possibility could be that your account is frozen and finally there are accusations on the casino.
1711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one you are good at? on: December 19, 2023, 07:40:29 PM
Hello! I'd like to pose a question to my fellow gamblers here. Since the topic of sports betting has been gaining attention recently, allow me to ask:

So, the question is... Which are you better at: selecting the right bet or managing your bankroll?

And, how has it been going so far? Are you profitable or not, and why?

For myself obviously I would prefer to manage the bankroll rather than looking for the right place/game, that's what I've always done so far because anyway I can't say it's the right bet, as far as my experience the name of the bet is just a game of probability so I think if the OP asks something like this then obviously bankroll management is more primary that I would choose.

I don't think we need to focus too much on finding the right place to get a win because after all the name of the bet there will be losing and winning, so for that matter maybe I will just wait for that luck to come to give me some winning amount. Winning and losing is normal but good and balanced bankroll management is more important for prevention and one of the long-term safety measures.
1712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 19, 2023, 07:07:30 PM
I think the people in charge at Bayern Munich have analysed the game against Frankfurt very well and they should now make the right decisions. Something like this should not happen to Bayern Munich again. Because in the past they have learnt from it and were even stronger afterwards. But if they will also lose the game against Wolfsburg, it will be an uncomfortable Christmas and Winter break at Säbener Strasse.
The possibility is very small for the Bayern Munich team to make another mistake, but what happened in the previous few weeks is a normal thing in football because even though the Bayern Munich team has better strength compared to other teams, there are times when they are careless at some moments so that is something that is very difficult to predict.
Thus, I think Bayern Munich will be more careful and aim high so that they don't fall further behind Leverkusen at the top of the standings.

For most people maybe it was a very surprising (bad) result about what Bayern Munich experienced in the previous match against Frankfurt, but of course however as you said that every team will definitely experience changes or means having a point where they can slip, and maybe for Bayern Munich itself the time for them to slip is against Frankfurt yesterday, I think it's still quite normal for a team that is struggling even though overall it is a very bad result when they play a team that is far below them.

Indirectly the bad results made the supporters very disappointed and also of course there will be a little doubt, but fortunately Bayern Munich and Tuchel at least managed to restore the confidence of the fans through the victory in their last match against VfB, on the other hand if only at that time Bayern Munich did not slip then maybe it looks like their point difference with Leverkusen will not be too far away now, but the rice has become porridge and the important thing is that they do not lose their winning mentality to continue fighting.
1713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 19, 2023, 06:05:20 PM
I’d say that gambling addiction has to do with the inability to do without gambling. So if you gamble all day or night because you can’t just stop then you’re addicted. But then, it is possible for someone to gamble very often but they aren’t addicted (they are trying to make more money but can sincerely stop if they wanted). With this, we can say that it doesn’t mean the time spent (though it can show in the time spent). But society thinks of it as addiction when you’re losing. If you’re always winning, they’ll talk about you and say good things and how you’re able to win so much. But when you’re losing? They’ll say you’re useless and just addicted to gambling. I don’t think this is uncommon.

An addiction is basically any behavior that is causing you problems in any areas of your life.

So, for example if you are spending too much time or attention on gambling, even in the theoretical scenario where you are not losing money, then you would probably not spend enough time with your friends, family, work, entertainment, etc.

It's not a one size fits all approach, some people might be addicted at different levels.

So what is the difference between an addict and a hobby? Even though they have the same meaning, they are different in terms of words.

Someone who has a hobby of gambling can also spend whatever money they want depending on what that person does, sometimes it is very difficult to separate people who are addicted or have a hobby from stopping it, but they can just wait for their money to run out, but there are many ways for them to make money by borrowing it. or sell as many items as possible to stimulate curiosity in achieving victory in gambling..

Sometimes I like to hear some suggestions from people including some here, they suggest that make gambling a hobby and not the main focus for earning, the purpose of them saying that is indeed for the better but the ideas and alternatives they convey are really not a solution, which means I think it's not a good idea at all when they suggest making gambling a hobby, you have explained a little here that even if gamblers address gambling as a hobby but it still costs money and has the possibility to lose money, there is no change in the context of that idea for a gambler.

I think what is better is that if they really want to quit then somehow they should avoid and never touch gambling again, borrowing money is not recommended at all and it will only make the situation and conditions worse, instead of wanting to get a lot of money by winning but what happens is the opposite is that they lose a lot of money, and it becomes a new problem if the money they allocate is borrowed money.
1714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: December 19, 2023, 05:05:34 PM
in conclusion all types of gambling games can be addictive and all have a big boost after getting a big win. but it all depends on the mindset of each gambler and in my opinion the type of game that can encourage someone to become addicted more quickly is usually slot games. because this game has a big chance of getting maxwin so when you get maxwin someone will become more curious and keep trying it.
I have many friends who are addicted to slot gambling so it is true what you say that only slot games can make people addicted because the maxwin they are chasing is difficult for them to get so they spend their money until it is drained with nothing left, games like sports betting and others can also It makes the addiction come back to the user because curiosity and greed can make someone addicted, but the ones I encounter most now are slot gambling addicts.

True, in my country there is also now popular online-based gambling, especially slot machines, almost 90% of people are involved there, I don't really know what the initial cause is so that more people are interested in getting involved in this gambling, but what is certain is that this casino has crazy promotions, maybe you have also proven that they always do big promotions on several social media platforms which is where people spend their leisure time, and that seems to be the main reason why more people are involved in this type of gambling.

In addition, as you said, slots have a promise of a sizable win and that is thousands of percent of the amount of capital we bring, such as the maximum win you mentioned or what we usually refer to as (maxwin). I think this type of gambling is more dangerous and that has taken many victims of addiction compared to several other types of gambling, one of which is like sports maybe.
1715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: December 19, 2023, 04:41:15 PM

If you want to stay responsible better to focus with your bankroll, both time and money are important but most of the time its the money that you are using that leads you to overstay inside the house, when you are losing there's a chance that instead of stopping you will add more money and keep trying to recover as quickly as possible.

Wrong move as you are just following how the house wanted you to use their services, if you got hook expect that you will suffer to more losing amount, you need to be very careful and you should stay with your plan.

By putting an amount that will not be too big a problem for your finances if the final result is really losing, bankrol management is very important but in my opinion not only that, but at the same time you also need to have the right understanding of gambling, because of course your management will not be useful if you basically have an aggressive approach to gambling in the sense of always overdoing it in search of victory. The right understanding will be useful to minimize everything including not losing too much and reduce the attraction to stay longer and get carried away in the cycle because the right understanding will be able to push you to a good awareness.

Restoring the situation to break even I think most of the actions will only end up in vain, very unlikely because when you do a new session then obviously the situation will also return to the beginning which means between winning and losing, while the house always wins.



Yeah, right, having that good understanding of the game is also a factor. Apart from bankroll management, the selection of games that you're going to bet will have that influence on the outcome of your session. If you know well, then it can be a positive outcome. It can be an edge for you while doing well with your money management. I can say that the chance that you may bring out some earnings can possibly happen if you know what you are doing, and you understand how gambling works.

However, if you fail to win, with that understanding, it can save you from being aggressive and stop you from keeping adding more money from your bankroll.

Yes, in conclusion, of course, it is not only bankroll management that is needed in this problem but also the management of a directed mindset and the right understanding, because I think that's the only thing that will be a big driver so that they can manage well and maximize.

For the problem of earning maybe I don't really agree with your assumptions and ideas, it's none other than because after all even though you have excellent planning, management and bankroll management it all refers only to a prevention so that you don't suffer too much defeat with large amounts, and not that way then you will be able to get a decent or definite income in gambling, for that matter it will still depend on how lucky you are in every session you bet. So don't misunderstand the odds, the right understanding and also with good bankroll management only refers or is useful to minimize the risk of losing and does not mean that you can get more wins with such an approach.
1716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: December 19, 2023, 03:59:13 PM

On the other hand what you said could be true that although the casino's goal is quite humane by providing the best service with the aim of reducing the level of addiction for the community but it is not wrong if we put a little suspicion about whether there is no other goal that is targeted and focused on by the casino itself. Hmm yes maybe I can also say that this is a new marketing style that will indirectly attract more customers because they feel they will stay safe with such services.

I don't think that the main purpose of casinos doing this is to increase revenue, because obviously the services they provide are to reduce the level of addiction which means that with the reduced interest of gamblers to gamble then obviously in terms of casino revenue will also definitely decrease, but what is more certain is that I think this is a new marketing style to increase the popularity of the casino itself to be more trusted in the eyes of the public.

Apart from this, in my country cigarette companies also open smoking cessation services for cigarette addicts who want to quit. Previously, they were pessimistic and thought what the heck this company was doing, instead it was acting ridiculously. However, after I researched it, after this service appeared, the number of cigarettes in circulation remained the same and actually increased, even many underage children in my country were smoking.

Considering the high cost of advertising on television, this smoking cessation service is like a new style of advertising that can be conveyed to other people, even non-smokers, through word of mouth. And I imagine if this happened in gambling, it would be the same, wouldn't it?

Well after reading your ideas and assumptions about banning people from smoking honestly I remembered something and I found the reason why cigarette companies in your country provide rehabilitation services for addicted people to quit or just reduce it, I explain a little here that they sell cigarettes and maybe if you are also a smoker then I think you have seen that in the cigarette package there is a warning along with a picture that shows the dangers of smoking for health, so that means they sell but make a statement like prohibiting people from buying, for some people it may seem like a silly and unreasonable way of doing business, but the main point here and what we don't realize is that there are two kinds of income that can be generated by cigarette or gambling companies, first they get income from people who buy cigarettes or people who are involved in gambling as usual and the second is that they also get money from addicted  people who will certainly choose to enter the services provided by the company.

This doesn't really affect the number of people involved, because even though they know the dangers,  the company will still promote to keep the balance of the audience coming and even more. I think it's more of a new style of marketing that people don't think about what's behind what the company is doing.
1717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: December 19, 2023, 03:38:22 PM

For them greed cannot be concluded as the main problem that will make them feel more regretful at the end of the session, but usually in the early stages when they are able to achieve victory then they think that greed  becomes an alternative that must be chosen for the sake of a larger amount. Yes of course, luck is always unpredictable after all, as you said and I also admit that greed does not always end in disappointment but there are also some who manage to get a bigger amount because luck is still there, but stilll everything is still gray because there is absolutely no certainty and luck is always unpredictable.

The prohibition against greed refers more to minimizing actions so that you can enjoy the previous victory, because usually something that is done in excess is always bad, especially this is gambling which always depends on luck. If there is certainty and assurance then there is obviously no problem if you want to apply greed. We must understand that the name of satisfaction has no end point, which means that  even if you  are able to get a large amount then obviously after that your hopes  and expectations will also be even greater while on the other hand gambling still depends on luck. That's why we should emphasize limits and control, because the more often you receive results that are not in accordance with your wishes, the deeper you will fall into the abyss..
Greed may be charming. It's thrilling to push boundaries and feel like you're about to win! However, moderation is essential. You stated it - excess is the enemy. Probabilities, not guarantees, are used. Why not play gambling skillfully instead of recklessly? While pushing limits is enjoyable, learning when to pull back distinguishes smart players from irresponsible ones. Satisfaction is an unending pursuit - yes! We're wired to seek the next great win. Gambling's charm is its unlimited 'what ifs' Remember, it's a game, not a certainty. The attraction of bigger rewards? Yes, tempting. Smart players know when to take their riches and leave. Try to play the game, not allow it play you. Gambling thrills, entertains, and offers enormous wins. You should enjoy the ride, not just the goal!

Yes being in a winning situation is exciting but if greed is what they choose to continue the session then I think everything will return to square one where it is not certain that they will get another win, and the large amount they imagine is nothing more than a hallucination that comes out of a mind that is excited because it managed to get a win before. As I said before, everything is still gray if they want to go back to playing with greed, because there are no guarantees and everything is just about probability, and maybe you will really be able to smile broadly when luck still survives at the same time or means when you apply greed.

Seeking something bigger by applying greed that is driven by a reckless approach also with no consideration before deciding is an action that will only make you / them trapped in a situation with a much higher level of disappointment, you have also said that the name of satisfaction is always not going to be your end, it's like a desire in real life that is also never finished. Thankfully, it's much better to decide to cash in on previous winnings than to end up disappointed and regretful because of greed that shouldn't have been.
1718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 19, 2023, 03:07:12 PM

Same here, i find it very stressful watching a game when you have a bet on either team. Most of the time, i won't watch it live, i will just watch the replay so i can see how the players were doing on that particular game as a reference for my next bet on them.

I bet to win, not for fun lol, but if my bet loses, i don't have regrets because that's my choice and i just put it in my mind that we will not always win in gambling, we win some we lose some.

The way you do it is quite good in finding which team is better and better to choose by waiting for the match to finish and seeing which team is more likely to be chosen in the next bet by looking at the depth statistics of the two teams, that's good but do you think that it's not possible that in the next bet you lose even though you have got references from replays by choosing a better team? of course, the top class team is still very likely to be defeated by a medium or below average team, the point is that any result can happen and including for results that we never expected.

Everything happens i gambling and that includes thing you never or least expected. But choosing a team with a higher percentage to win is better than just guessing on who will win that is why i use some kind of statistics on my bets but even that is not a guarantee that my bet would win. That's the beauty of gambling, you never know who will because if we did know then we all be millionaires  in just a short period of time.

In gambling, the name of risk always cannot be completely avoided or even will always exist even though it is only a possibility, it is true and that is the actual fact that exists in gambling because everything is still gray or cannot be predicted. Of course and I also seem to have to try the way you do, it seems that it can slightly increase the chances of winning rather than coming without bringing any plans and ways of approach in the sense of coming by just guessing and not doing any calculations to just make that consideration.

Yes maybe what should be better understood is as we discussed earlier that after all this is a gambling activity where no matter how smart you calculate or how skilled you are in the world of sports the final result is still I can't fully predict, or that means we can't completely eliminate the risk of our gambling activities, but if you do realize this then I think it's fine and maybe you won't feel some pressure as a result of losing because you have a point of view like a responsible gambler.
1719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 19, 2023, 02:39:18 PM
The conclusion that the OP is referring to is that usually someone will experience a change in mindset if at the beginning of their involvement they immediately get a win and that is what is meant by the first win trap, and that means not every gambler who just entered will always get a win but still in gambling everything cannot be predicted whether you will win or lose.

As for your statement about what casino they play at, or do you mean that winning depends on how good the casino is, I honestly never thought of it that way, I never thought that losing was caused by irresponsible or scam casinos, unless you are mentioning that casinos don't pay gamblers their winnings, well if that is what you mean then I guess I would agree with your idea, but as for the difficulty of finding winnings I think it is just about luck and I would say that if there are people who gamble without winning then I would say that they are very far from lucky.
First win trap is somethin that would really be that those casinos would really be trying out to be happening specially these method would really be that effective majority with those noobs who are really that having that greedy approach towards gambling. Yes, you could really be able to make those initial wins but on the time that you wouldnt really be abel to to make those winnings and experiencing those losses then this is the best time  that you should really be quitting. Dont believe it on the first place? Easy to say but majority would really be failing to do so specially if that someone is really that expecting something positive with gambling then
most likely you would really be falling into that trap.

Somewhat if you are a type of person who do have that strong will and discipline or simply with those awareness at first place then you wont really that get easily hooked with those first win traps.
You would immediately be quitting up if ever you do see that you are spending up money that much.

But as I said above that in this problem especially for a win it is still difficult to predict, and maybe the title that the OP wrote is more referring to the change in mindset and perspective when novice gamblers get a win at the beginning of their involvement, increasing budgets, hopes and expectations for something much bigger than what they have won before is something they are likely to do if they come with the wrong perspective or if indeed the first win succeeds in changing their perspective on gambling.

It's hard to stop when it's too late, or when the mind is completely focused on winning, and they may end up gambling more aggressively instead of thinking  of some limits or plans to stop when some indications of something worse happen. Of course only awareness can bring it all back, or I mean bring their point of view back to the right path, but maybe if they have already experienced such a change in the beginning then I think it might be too late.
1720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: December 18, 2023, 05:15:19 PM

No matter how good or professional a gambler can be, there's are still chances that he's surely still go broke and that's why it is called gambling. No one knows it all in gambling and nobody can authoritatively say that since he started gambling, he's not had bad days where he losses a lot of money in gambling. There are many professional gamblers who at some time went totally broke as a result of their numerous losses in gambling but still later got back to their feet after learning from their mistakes. So no matter how professional a gambler can be, there are days where he losses but what makes them more professional than others is their ability to manage the times of losses without allowing them get the better of them unlike regular gamblers who fails to manage their emotions during those times of losses.

The casino will never see or even notice your background, whether you are a casual gambler or even a professional, still if you go in and get involved with money then you will be one of the many gamblers who will feel the impact of gambling itself especially the possibility of losing or even going broke as you said. It all goes back to the original setup and concept that gambling is about probabilities and those who win are the lucky ones.

But maybe the difference is in terms of risk management, where professional gamblers they already have a lot of experience related to the world of gambling which means that he has felt a lot of things especially various situations whether it indicates something good or has the possibility of something bad happening unexpectedly. Unlike ordinary gamblers or even those who have just been involved, they do not have any experience so they do not realize if some indications for worse things happen, so they continue to get carried away and end up experiencing many bad effects, professional gamblers will emphasize more self-control and good limits gained from their own experience, and if we look in terms of loss, it is clear that usually professional gamblers will experience less loss, but still for the problem of risk will always lurk. Wink


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