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2061  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 02, 2019, 11:46:34 AM
"Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Timestamping Machine For Useless Data To Fake Network Activity System"

Useless for you - accepted  Cheesy
2062  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 02, 2019, 11:36:57 AM
Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.


Stats - yep

Dynamics - nope

Dynamics: yes



Nice - red Dragon is coming after the yellow winter

 Grin

WeatherSV is responsible for over 3,200,000 transactions in the past 30 days. BSV's growth is a complete joke.



Public scientific data storage / processing is a decent thing for a time stamping machine. More to come
2063  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 02, 2019, 10:26:25 AM
Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.


Stats - yep

Dynamics - nope

Dynamics: yes



Nice - red Dragon is coming after the yellow winter

 Grin
2064  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 02, 2019, 08:33:44 AM
Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.


Stats - yep

Dynamics - nope
2065  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Burn Satoshis coins to end the threat of prices crashing - Paxful Founder on: September 02, 2019, 08:02:15 AM
What about legal implications with this?
2066  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-08-27] Craig Wright loses Kleiman case—billions in Bitcoin awarded to on: September 02, 2019, 07:03:53 AM
Nothing really happend here: The default 'order' from the Magistrate to the judge is very usual  a 50:50 in a civil case, where they have no clue who is right ...

 Roll Eyes
2067  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 02, 2019, 06:01:25 AM
Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.
2068  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 02, 2019, 05:01:37 AM
Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
2069  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 01, 2019, 06:50:32 PM
The limit only has sense in case of 0 Bitcoin value, at the beginnings. This is only spam protection where it costs 0 to send.
This is somewhat true if you want to restrict adoption of node hosting, but what would have stopped users from mining -> tx spamming in the beginning? A larger block size would make it more difficult for users to bloat the network, wouldn't it? After all, that's what you want, right?

Now it will be removed to enable true open competition between all the network participants.

Any limit / rule you introduce has a dictatorship / comunism like origin / effect and is strong sign of central power (like a dev team + PoSM has).
Perhaps, but by increasing the block size, you also centralize the nodes for Bitcoin. Then, they can arbitrarily dictate the broadcasted transactions, they can monitor transactions and track your information...

Any profitable business is 'centralizing' per definition like the masses by gravity. Thats the reason why we have highest tech mining. But only open competition and highest op risks are able to break up the 'central' powers over time, see bitmain!
Even data centers compete but at higher level.

(Thats also why PoS is crap since there is no such brutal competition and it leads to stable oligarchy)

Laptop mining and raspi relays are outcompete by years now. Adjust your level of sizes and scale. The world is growing.


So the best thing you could do to counter the permanent centralizing force (profit) is allowing max openess / competition (break up other 's profit)

Less rules but clear and stable ones ( no need of central governance) keeps BitCoin 'decentralized' enough over time
2070  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 01, 2019, 09:14:17 AM
The scaling by block capacity was always a no brainer.
Then why ever limit the block size? Hmm?

The limit only has sense in case of 0 Bitcoin value, at the beginnings. This is only spam protection where it costs 0 to send.

Now it will be removed to enable true open competition between all the network participants.

Any limit / rule you introduce has a dictatorship / comunism like origin / effect and is strong sign of central power (like a dev team + PoSM has).

The less rules, the more open and true competition allowing a system is and its not governed by a central entity.

Watch BSV, the roadmap is here and no need of Satoshi is included any longer, cause he initially set the rules in stone.


That is actually the reason why so many start crying against, since they want that power, and want to alter rules. So open competition is not what core teams like ...
2071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 01, 2019, 08:24:51 AM

Hypothesis: What people have not understood is that they buy and develop crypto or make ico Token (often illegal) under ETH and others by creating tokens in a few minutes, but finally it amounts to centralizing their multiple babies "crypto" under a single system if "Ethereum or crypto to create unnecessary tokens stop" then it is thousands of "corners" that will also stop, think about it when you invest... That said, if ETH and its offspring are released... then the global Marketcap will be updated... Ideal for creating a new generalized ATH.... Once this general recovery event is produced it will most likely bring in new investors or old ones can be oriented in this way, it will be possible to direct them towards the "right technology" already updated and tailored for scaling up like BSV for example.



For the global adoption some major points needs to be ensured

Cheap and simple base layer, easy to understand and low risks that the base will change or enable illegal stuff ON PURPOSE.

That makes it easy to implement anything computers can do ON TOP

ETH was a nice experiment or still is, to let ppl get into such devs and risk analysis but pretty much as eMail is for sending text messages and oops attachments (like smart contracts containing exe files) those exe files are NEVER EVER automatically executed neither at send time nor at receiving time nor at open/ reading time , rather blocked, filtered out or checked against viruses etc.

Global adoption of autoexecution of code that can do Turing complete just anything - wont happen, especially if coded by poor script lang, that hase no proper compile time checking as java or c have.

First only sending txs at scale incl most simple defined conditions needs to be save and scaling, all the rest might come many years down the road...

2072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: August 31, 2019, 11:50:54 AM
One of the bests intervies here and also why there was a poker game in the first version of BitCoin

https://youtu.be/mBNT7X5sjPM
2073  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: August 31, 2019, 11:48:52 AM
Nope, such big block doesn't change how it all works together.
I guess you're right then. Where are my 1TB blocks? If we're to be prepared for the future, we need to scale! Immediately!
And... why was the original limit set at the value it was? Why wasn't it larger? We should have started scaling back in '09, not '17!

The scaling by block capacity was always a no brainer.

Interesting was why was there a poker game in the first version?

The guy here explains it a bit later


https://youtu.be/mBNT7X5sjPM
2074  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: August 30, 2019, 02:46:28 PM

You would'nt ask such Thing from Satoshi, would you?


I think you'll find that is exactly what this community would, and does, ask of anyone asserting themselves to be Satoshi, that they sign a message with one of his keys. While that doesn't necessarily prove without doubt that such a person is Satoshi it would transfer the burden of proof to us to then show that they are not the original owner of the key they signed with.

So, seeing as Craig has not provided such cryptographic proof, what evidence do you have which would even serve to show he was aware of Bitcoin prior to 2013?

I'll answer that for you. You have zero evidence because there is no evidence. You are merely choosing to believe what you want to believe and that is solely derived from Craig, himself, making claims without proof.

Believing in claims that lack any evidence whatsoever is otherwise known as 'blind faith' and is not a healthy or reliable way to define the world around you.




There is no 'evidence' even if anyone signs with such old keys (it just proves, one was just able to sign - nothing else)  - also not any proof for the 'community' where it appears that there are very different ones with different views and backgrounds & understandings to CONCLUDE who might be Satoshi and who not - guess we cannot fix that.
2075  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 30, 2019, 11:07:33 AM
Next 12 hours are critical.tm  Or is it 8 hours?  Hairy?

Next 12 years are critical

True
2076  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: August 30, 2019, 10:52:04 AM
and what only CSW is able to Report from the beginnings

I've not seen any evidence that CSW was even aware of Bitcoin prior to 2013. Do you have any that wasn't supplied (or 'leaked') by CSW himself?



I take it that's a no, hv_?

CSW has a history of 'assignment' of value to bitcoins he claims to own which are then proven to be other people's addresses. He has used this 'assignment of value' to claim rebates for cash from the ATO and, as seen in the Kleiman case, to pretend he owns addresses which are known to belong to Satoshi, none of which he has ever proven beyond his own assertion.

So I ask you again, what evidence do you have that CSW even held bitcoin prior to 2013, let alone was its creator?



You would'nt ask such Thing from Satoshi, would you?

So - nobody really knows that, except a few or only one guy.

I just look who acts / says / writes what and how(!). That's all a decent guy (with a big blocker brain  Smiley )  could do here out in the eFields.

Come up with some proper proof another guy fits better, and no - its neither Hal nor Nick...



2077  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: August 30, 2019, 07:30:26 AM
Rats are leaving the sinking BSV boat.

Announcement from Kevin Pham (https://twitter.com/_Kevin_Pham/status/1167234860198445056)

"I have announcement:

I'm officially retiring from being a Bitcoin Civil War general.

I've been fighting, arguing, & trolling for almost three years now and I'm tired.

I just want to be a normal person again.

I'm going to return to my phamily & till my crops.

I bid you adieu."

Then precises

"I'm not going anywhere, I just retired from trolling and fighting.

My focus now is on using BSV technology to build products that help people."


After the Florida Barbecue Party, he can't shill and promote Bitcoin Shit Version anymore.

Wow - what a victory. Or did you get it as one ?

Lol
2078  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: August 29, 2019, 08:50:09 PM
Read and try

https://weiblock.app
2079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum SCAM? on: August 29, 2019, 07:23:08 PM

All your posts are similar to trolling. But I have one question for you. Name at least one not useless coin  Huh

There is only BitCoin bsv able to scale properly and could be the timestamping engine for any sort of 'smart contracts' u might think of, all in a decent risk averse manner, such that companies can easily access the risks they must take with an open blockchain system, but not such a high one, as eth or any othercrap I ve seen yet in this space.
2080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: August 29, 2019, 07:18:21 PM
If some of the little baby trolls herein would have some balls, they could come up with their pricky faces
And try to talk their "facts" in same manner as these decent ppl are capable of.

So show us ur counter facts (lol) pls

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/cx0vmh/kleiman_vs_craig_wright_getting_the_facts/
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