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2541  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [17th Dec] on: January 28, 2015, 08:05:08 PM
When is the last sale made from bitfury to the general public?

About 6 weeks ago last I checked

Bitfury sold gear 6 weeks ago?  Where?  To who?  A retail consumer/small miner?  I'm not being facetious, I would like to know.

Openly on the market. You can [could] drop them a message and find out their MOQ and hardware very openly.
Did not answer my question.

I did?

Bitfury sold gear 6 weeks ago? Up until 6 weeks ago they sold the BF3500, yes.
Where? [If to where] Globally [If from where] Bitfury.org when you contact them
To who? Anyone with enough money.
A retail consumer/small miner? I don't see how that's relevant to my thread.
I see.  So your guide is for institutional or large commercial miners.

It is a "manufacturer trustworthiness thread", interpret that how you will.

What it ISN'T however,
1) is a resource that can be tampered with just because one company is anxious to get their 100 rating faster than the system allows, for motives that are NDA'ed and not able to be revealed.
2) is a resource that can be swayed to expel a perfectly legitimate company simply because a competitor determines that they don't fit on the list.

I'll take whatever shit anyone wants to throw at me but I hold myself to ethical and moral standards that aren't compatible with 'corporate pressure'.
2542  Other / Meta / Re: Mods killing an hardware manufacturers poll on: January 28, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
- You've used technicalities to shut down a poll you didn't like for some reason

I did not, a forum administrator did. Unfortunately it seems that by the administrator in question not showing their face, you're instead blaming me.... great.

On a personal note, Dogie, I'm truly disappointed by your action and the inabilities to admit an error.
You're trying to hide behind an imaginary crowd of "people who made a report". It's pitiful and pathetic.
I thought you're better than that.

And while I respect that you might be under stress or annoyed by the matters which we can't speak about on the forums, I too am dismayed by you turning this needlessly personal.
2543  Other / Meta / Re: PM restriction for new accounts is needed on: January 28, 2015, 05:58:02 PM
I get 5-10 PMs a week from newbies / literally just signed up accounts asking legitimate questions or asking for help. These are accounts that more often then not become useful members of the community. You can't paint everyone with the same brush.

Is there a reason why they can post the question publicly?

Well they could, but I'm sure there's a myriad of reasons why someone may want PM rather than just make a thread. If you require a specific answer and know a certain person can answer it it seems silly to create a thread and hope they answer it.

Yeah we'll never cover all the reasons by speculating, or by trying to make workarounds. Maybe they're coming to one of my guides / the forums for the first time via Google, maybe they're embarrassed. Whatever the reasons, we can't simply block all newbies from PMing.
2544  Other / Meta / Re: Mods killing an hardware manufacturers poll on: January 28, 2015, 04:48:00 PM
I can't prove it of course, but without Dogie's hypocritic complaint, the poll would have continue without interruption.

Multiple people have said now, that's just not true. If I was included within the many people who made a report, or not, or was dead, those threads would have still have been deleted.
2545  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.25/GH & 0.51W/GH on: January 28, 2015, 03:45:25 PM
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8612/15970380880_6900bfc2fa_o.jpg

dogie I pm'ed you with a bitmain question in regards to clearance problems with FedX, could you check.

On it.
2546  Other / Meta / Re: Mods killing an hardware manufacturers poll on: January 28, 2015, 03:37:45 PM
To the mods, please use more judgement when you see reports from Dogie. I believe the mod action here were totally wrong.

As I said above, your concentrating on me when I have absolutely nothing to do with it. If I'd gone to bed a bit earlier and not reported the one post, we'd STILL be waking up to this meta thread because your threads STILL would have been deleted.

A mod still would have attended and done the same due to other reports, or a few hours later a patrolling mod would have seen them and done the same.

Go seek help or life. Stop ruining good things other people tries to do in the Hardware subsection. You suck the life out of it.

Guy

Sad That's not cool
2547  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [17th Dec] on: January 28, 2015, 02:15:23 PM
When is the last sale made from bitfury to the general public?

About 6 weeks ago last I checked

Bitfury sold gear 6 weeks ago?  Where?  To who?  A retail consumer/small miner?  I'm not being facetious, I would like to know.

Openly on the market. You can [could] drop them a message and find out their MOQ and hardware very openly.
Did not answer my question.

I did?

Bitfury sold gear 6 weeks ago? Up until 6 weeks ago they sold the BF3500, yes.
Where? [If to where] Globally [If from where] Bitfury.org when you contact them
To who? Anyone with enough money.
A retail consumer/small miner? I don't see how that's relevant to my thread.
2548  Other / Meta / Re: PM restriction for new accounts is needed on: January 28, 2015, 01:19:25 PM
I get 5-10 PMs a week from newbies / literally just signed up accounts asking legitimate questions or asking for help. These are accounts that more often then not become useful members of the community. You can't paint everyone with the same brush.
if you force users to make at least one post before sending a PM then this problem would be solved.

Forcing someone to post for the sake of posting will likely feed the other forum issues of low quality / spam. Also that user would then have to wait 10 minutes before being able to PM me.
2549  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive RockMiner R3-Box Setup [HD] on: January 28, 2015, 01:16:31 PM
Hi dogie, i`ve just got a R4 and ive loaded up the latest cgminer for it but i can only get 1 blade working and the other 3 dont show up on cgminer, but they all have the right drivers in using zadig
please could you tell me where i have gone wrong
Many thanks mike

this is the start bat
cgminer.exe --icarus-options 115200:1:1 --rock-freq 350 -o stratum+tcp://stratum.f2pool.com:3333 -u 12345678.5 -p 12345

What LEDs are you getting on the individual boards? Are the mini usb cables definitely plugged in well from each board to the hub?
2550  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER U3 Discussion and Support Thread on: January 28, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
I have to install the winusb driver again if i unplug it, even if back to the same port.

If i start cgminer with both connected, it fails.

I only had the winusb driver issue when I was running a new R-box at the same time, not seen it in isolation before.

I went to buy 5 of these yesterday; and found Bitmain had removed the option to buy only 5.

Will see whats going on with that.
2551  Other / Meta / Re: Mods killing an hardware manufacturers poll on: January 28, 2015, 01:10:08 PM
Well, you admitted that you reported the poll thread questions, so it's not.

I reported one post of 6 threads, alongside many, many others. You posted / had something posted in an inappropriate form (as mentioned by 3 admins now) and so it was removed.
I'm not sure why that is on me...
2552  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [REVIEW] AVALON 4 1000GH/s@694W on: January 28, 2015, 01:06:16 PM
I changed the voltage of the chip to 8000. It gave me better hashrate and lower watt. I will post a picture of the wattmeter tonight.  Grin

If you leave auto voltage on I'm not actually sure what will happen to the final voltage, or if the 8000 will just act as a starting voltage.
2553  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.25/GH & 0.51W/GH on: January 28, 2015, 12:56:44 PM
Sensors in a standard S5 are also cooled by the fans, thus a lower reading, whereas in a water cooled setup, not much air movement is concentrated on the boards (aka sensors), so the readings are going to be higher.
In any case, if this were not the case, then we'd see that reflected in the other stats- hashrate, HW% etc, but we don't.

Cooling isn't there just for the chips, so if you're saying that its okay that the other components are too hot because the chips themselves are cool, you're gonna have a bad time.

To answer your other statement, we don't usually see temperatures reflected in those other stats anyway. Plenty of people using low RPM fans run at similar temps without any noticeable effect on the telemetry.
2554  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [17th Dec] on: January 28, 2015, 12:54:03 PM
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The irony of Bick choosing to use most hated character on a reality TV show to post his view Cheesy
2555  Other / Meta / Re: Mods killing an hardware manufacturers poll on: January 28, 2015, 12:51:20 PM
Edit: I didn't raise "conspiracy theories" levels questions - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938256.msg10285563#msg10285563

Well, yes you did, both of these are older than the post you quoted (at the bottom)

I can't prove it, but I'm hearing sinister dog barks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g92VWIu8NQ

...
Please  note polls were deleted  by the forum mods.-----------

 I would still prefer to do a survey of current miners / gear.
Dogie, is it you barking again to the moderators ?


Truly sad to see it closed.  I will not post my thoughts, just that I think someone has a lot of pull on what happens. Apparently this poll he did not like.
2556  Other / Meta / Re: auctions section spammed by crap domains on: January 28, 2015, 12:41:26 PM
Implementing changes is down to the admins not mods so BadBear and theymos are the only people with any weight for change regarding this matter.

Else you'll get things like the forum's advertising thread still smashed under 500 domain topics.

Maybe, but maybe theymos could sticky the advertising slot thread.

True, but then anyone else selling legitimate digital goods (including some of my stuff even if it is low traffic) would still be back to square 1. The problem isn't being caused by digital goods, its being caused by domains and so you can nip the problem entirely in the bud with a domains subforum.

Another viewpoint is there are 100s of platforms specifically designed to auction domain names on, and there appears to be zero interest from anyone on here actually buying them. People are creating these domain threads because they're a free way to advertise.
2557  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Philipma1957's attempt to rate current Manufacturers of Asic for home mining. on: January 28, 2015, 12:35:04 PM
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I can't set it up any other way. I would prefer to do an 8-10 question survey.
 Keeping the 8 polls with 8 questions is too long. But I don't have any other way.  right now I have 6 .
 5 are open to the public and 1 is blind until feb 6
 If I do 2 more they would be blind to the public until feb 6.
 I don't really want a war but it is plan to see there are a lot of strong behind the scenes discussions occurring.

Survey monkey, as I use. Might cost $30 if you go over 100 responses but you can always just open a second free one.
Why taking the route of "reporting to moderators" instead of suggesting it to philipma1957 before ?
Don't you think you're using "report to moderators" too quickly ?

Because moving what he had to survey monkey still would have led to him deleting those threads. By reporting to mod, users are summoning a mod to decide if the content infringes on forum rules and if so allow them to fix it. Its not on the user's head to fix that.

[Lets head over to meta now]
2558  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Philipma1957's attempt to rate current Manufacturers of Asic for home mining. on: January 28, 2015, 12:32:50 PM
I consider you a friend and I believe you're doing positive stuff to promote and help the industry and the home miners. You need to separate our arguments from the rest. I'm not trying to hurt you in anyway.

My problem with that is we have loooong discussions on skype which include all sorts of information we can't talk about publicly. That discussion then ends, and I keep coming on here to find fresh posts provoking the same discussion on the forums, knowing full well that because of the NDA [which I hate, and wouldn't sign again in its previous form] I can't say the same things we just discussed on skype.

Dogie admitted he reported the poll questions to the moderators.
I kindly ask a global moderator to move the questions threads from Trash to Archival and let the poll continue.

The results until the poll was interrupted by Dogie's actions:

I reported ONE post with a 6 word comment, as did other users because it shouldn't have been posted over 6 (which we were later told would turn into 9 threads). I don't see 'moderator' or 'staff' next to my name and I certainly didn't delete your posts.
2559  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Philipma1957's attempt to rate current Manufacturers of Asic for home mining. on: January 28, 2015, 12:26:49 PM
EDIT: IMO though I do think Dogie might need to consider handing off the review thing to someone else who is willing to take it on that does not give off a biased appearance. While I personally do not think he is, I can see why people would considering his affiliation with bitmain.

Someone else is free to try, but they soon realise that its not worth the aggro it causes. Unless you do a Bick and start a monologue to yourself, running round the forum quoting dogie things Wink


I can't set it up any other way. I would prefer to do an 8-10 question survey.
 Keeping the 8 polls with 8 questions is too long. But I don't have any other way.  right now I have 6 .
 5 are open to the public and 1 is blind until feb 6
 If I do 2 more they would be blind to the public until feb 6.
 I don't really want a war but it is plan to see there are a lot of strong behind the scenes discussions occurring.

Survey monkey, as I use. Might cost $30 if you go over 100 responses but you can always just open a second free one.
2560  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 28, 2015, 12:12:38 PM
Spondoolies-Tech any chance of a water cooled miner in the future?
I really don't want to buy an s5 to upgrade it with watercooling!
+1 !!! The more silent the better for me !

A watercooled SP20 would be awesome !

'Dual sided' PCBs don't play well with blocks as you'll have to make either a really weirdly shaped one for each board or individual ones for each chip. And then you still have the problem that those board components require airflow, which they won't get due to the jungle of waterblocks. Would be interesting to see but I think a different layout would be easier to work with.

And would a $600 SP20 still be awesome if its water cooled? Adding in watercoolings ads in costs across the board unfortunately.

You don't need water cooling to have quiet. You just need to stop designing for maximum density. Spread the chips out and use nice quiet slow big fans. That's really all water cooling is.

If the SP20 was twice as large (same number of chips, without putting 2 chips in line of the airflow) it would run much better and quieter with 2 fans.

I agree with the sentiment on spreading chips out, in every product other than the SP20 though. The SP20 has other issues / coexisting hurdles required to get it silent at stock speeds which wouldn't necessarily be solved with a decrease in density. On the SP10, SP30, SP31, SP35 though, almost certainly. Of those only the SP10's fans were actually loud, everything else was PSU noise from using 1U PSUs.
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