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2241  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.25/GH & 0.51W/GH on: February 23, 2015, 07:46:03 PM
how much high grade ram do you think the controller will need? 8gb of ddr3 or 4gb of ddr5.  the controller will cost $$$$.  So the s-5 will not be 340-370 it will be   440-470.   A shit coin can have 10000x the shares of a bitcoin.

BTW I would like a better controller myself.  Maybe a new quad core rasp pi  x 2 has enough to  do it.

It appears you're throwing numbers around.  I don't know what memory the S5 is using now and I don't know what the actual problem is. Perhaps it's a little early for your speculations?  Let's see what Bitmain has to say and try to avoid speculation!

I have a feeling that its to do with westhash and generally altcoin mining as a frozen controller isn't a typical error we see. What could be happening is that on coin / block / whatever change, its flooding the controller with inappropriately low difficulty shares which is causing it to lock up.

Do we know that the described Difficulty issue is a known controller lockup cause?  This is not an attack, it's just not clear Bitmain has described what the misbehavior might be with a difficulty mismatch.  My view of this issue is obviously going to be different between a compatibility problem with Nicehash/Westhash Vs a generic problem.  If it is a compatibility problem, I think it reflects back on Bitmain to try harder to match their products to real world product usage.  My intent is to purchase a general purpose SHA-256d miner, not an exclusively BTC miner!  Mining is just too expensive to be limited to BTC.

Well, philip is right. It doesn't matter how much resources you give a controller, if you try and use it inappropriately it will still fail to do what you want it to. This controller is designed for something around 200+ difficulty shares at the lowest, and even that will likely start throttling. If you're pool, coin or whatever else is throwing significantly lower difficulty shares at it then there's no way its going to cope, regardless if you gave it more resources and made it more expensive.

The best analogy I can come up with is like trying to dump a swimming pool's worth of water into your bath, then complaining to your landlord that he hasn't given you a big enough bath. There is nothing stopping you from mining other coins or on other pools, they just have to be sensible.
2242  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.25/GH & 0.51W/GH on: February 23, 2015, 07:41:05 PM
When I turn on my C1 (yes, the water cooled model) it kicks up the fan to high speed while it initializes and boots. Is that how loud a S5 is, or is it much louder than that?

I see several videos on youtube from users replacing their fans to silent type fans, is there a particular setup that works the best to quiet these S5's? I saw that one video where the guy was using a white silent fan from AAB Cooling, which I couldn't hear from it at all. What is everyone buying to keep their rigs more quiet? I assume they are adding another fan on the other end and switching both fans to other brands. There are hundreds out there, ranging from 1600-2000 rpm's mostly....what's the best setup for this S5 to make it quiet?

That's the last thing I would want to do. I saw a video on youtube where the dude has his S5 running with two silent fans and it's only 43 decibels. That I can live with. I doubt no one wants to spend another couple hundred dollars on a water kit. Just more work and watts.

No, an S5 is much louder. The C1's fan is an 'S3' fan which maxes out about 1600RPM lower and has a different sound profile to it on top.

I'd be very scepital about users 'silencing' an S5 without running it in a cold ambient or extremely hot. There are a lot of board components other than just the ASICs which require cooling and reducing airflow disproportionately affects these component. The closest you're going to get to 'silent' is 2x Corsair SP120s (high performance editions). They're not silent, but they're not horrendous either.
2243  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.25/GH & 0.51W/GH on: February 23, 2015, 07:36:59 PM
can we finally get BFGMINER support
Serious miners don't speak of BFGMiner...

The U1 is supported by BFGMiner but that's about it. Luke won't develop the S, C or U lines further without hardware and at the moment there really isn't any need for it. Cgminer is supported both officially and unofficially [Bitmain's] on two different branches.

Why specifically do you want BFGMiner? Its not as if we can run these on anything but official controllers running prebundled firmware.
2244  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain tech support and warranty on: February 23, 2015, 07:30:55 PM
I've been eyeing an S5 and it's nice to know the company is trying to improve its service and not just its product.

Systems and teams are being implemented all over the place. Its not easy growing from 0 to $XXM in a year.
2245  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Next consumer model miner on: February 23, 2015, 07:30:02 PM
If I can get our current project working well, I definitely want to look into building some home-scale miners if none of the big guys do. Certainly won't be easy but if what we want to do is possible it could be pretty decent.
There doesn't seem to be a shortage of people who would be willing to work on that sort of thing, either on their own or in a collaboration.  If only chip availability weren't such an issue.

Avalon4 chips are and have been open for 3rd parties since release. Spondoolies often opens their chips up but availability is a bit behind actual release. I'd assume if you can put in a big enough order that Bitfury might consider taking your money as well, even Bitmain.
2246  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Have access to 800 amps on: February 23, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
That seems like a good setup and you are close to us as well.  If you want to get into mining, this is a decent start.   Unless that ventilation system has cooling, you might find it tough to run on air cooling during the summer (as you know).   

-D

I guess that depends just how much air cooling he has in relation to the 800A. If its a facility that's ready for 3400A then there'd be plenty of headroom.
2247  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is Bitmain retooling its labs for a die shrink to anything below 28nm?? on: February 23, 2015, 07:26:20 PM
Doesn't it seem "natural" that if there is an S6 it will be using S5 chips? That's pretty much their style for the previous miners they produced e.g. S1/S2, S3/S4).

[Speculation] Almost certainly the S6 will use S5 chips, its not time for a gen shift yet.
2248  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [17th Dec] on: February 23, 2015, 07:23:03 PM
Hi Dogie's, this is scam or not? (www.minerslab.com  https://www.achilleslabs.com aryadutaminer.com ) really need advice I want to buy  .

Obviously scammer

The first two both have threads on here, both suggesting they're scams.
2249  Other / Meta / Re: BitCoinTalk hidden pages on: February 22, 2015, 10:36:04 PM
I guess that mods can see that

Why do people assume that mods are God and can see or change everything?

You have a picture of a kitty cat. I feel in my bones that I do not like you *growls*
2250  Other / Meta / Re: [REQUEST] Please extend maximum lenght for hero/legendary member signatures. on: February 22, 2015, 10:33:53 PM
BTW. there was also a bug spotted by me. When you paste into "Profile Information" a code, there might be written "xxx chars remainging".

That's usually its inability to count 'special characters' which includes line breaks and other similar things.
2251  Other / Meta / Re: [REQUEST] Please extend maximum lenght for hero/legendary member signatures. on: February 22, 2015, 09:11:58 PM
OP want to have signature length doubled to be able to put pixelated logos in them, soon after you make a proposal to have images added too. All graphics take a toll on data traffic; but, most importantly, here on bitcointalk ,we don't care to the shiny signature, we look for the post content! It's nice to have a signature, it's nice to have the possibility to rent it to a signature campaign but we should not allow a mine is bigger than yours mindset to overcome the whole forum.

Check dogie's signature for instance, we can make it a bit attractive and add more contents which would help the forum but yes, more than helping sig-ads are used.

   -MZ

Yeah. My sig is 2300 characters and its literally just text with links in it. This type of code just isn't that character efficient and its something we have to work around regardless of if its for flashy reasons or just sensible practicality.
2252  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: How to monitor a 36 pcs SP20 Farm ? on: February 22, 2015, 08:44:30 PM
Right for the moment im using Ms-miner and it works very nice. I have also tried crypto glance,  local version and not the nas version.  Thats going to be tried out tomorrow.
If i need a very guick overview i would say Ms is the best solution so far. Does the job,  but still haves some bugs,  like if the program is closed down,  it dosent save the present miner setup..
Spondoolies has a program Huh

I thought they did but by the lack of replies maybe not.
2253  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.25/GH & 0.51W/GH on: February 22, 2015, 12:28:44 PM
Have had two S5 running flawlessly for three weeks and today experienced an issue (batch four, OE file system, CGminer 4.9.0, 306.25 MHz clock).  One of the two appeared to have frozen.  Perhaps half a day elapsed while both controller and Hash appeared stuck.  Discovered the problem by observing lower than expected Hash on Eligius and traced it back to the specific S5 by addressing it, whereupon it displayed the miner status page (without my logging in or selecting it), but was unresponsive to GUI selections.  I shut down the PSU for sixty seconds, fired it up again, and back to normal.  It now once again appears fine.
Noticed today my Westhash account was down ~2TH/s.  Did a visual on the miners and all appeared fine.  Tried addressing the two S5s and neither responded.  Power cycled both, checked their status (as well as the S3s), and all was back to normal.  The temps are 42/44, 46/46 and neither has been o/c'd (at least, not since Bitmain shipped them.)  The power supplies are CX750M with all four PCI-E connectors populated, the file system is the Jan 7 version, CGminer is 4.9.0, and the clock is 306.25MHz.

PS. Took a look around and it appears Batch 4 is sold out and I see no mention yet of a Batch 5.
Just discovered another failure, just one of them this time -- was frozen displaying the miner status page. Just raised both clocks to 312.5MHz, can't imagine why that would make a difference, but trying it anyway.

I have a feeling that its to do with westhash and generally altcoin mining as a frozen controller isn't a typical error we see. What could be happening is that on coin / block / whatever change, its flooding the controller with inappropriately low difficulty shares which is causing it to lock up.
2254  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive RockMiner New R-Box Setup [HD] on: February 22, 2015, 10:17:31 AM
Hello all.

Been fighting with my new Rboxes.  I am running them with BFGMiner 4.8.0.  My computer seems to only recognize one box at a time.  I have three.  Each of them will run independently but not with them all plugged in at once.  I have gone to the windows device list and when all three are plugged in two show to have yellow exclamation points on them.  I tried everything I know to get these conflicts resolved to no avail.  (windows xp btw.)  Note:  I have the CP210x_VCP_Windows drivers installed. 

Also when I do get one running my best speed is around 77 ghz.  I have changed clock setting from 310 and 330  with no noticeable change in performance. 

I guess my question is this.  What am I missing on getting multiple rboxes to work on my windows XP system.  I can live with the 77gh for now, as I attempt to figured out how to run cgminer.

All advice will be appreciated.

Ron.

Try the cgminer with zadig instructions, it will likely fix both your issues.
2255  Other / Meta / Re: Why Bitcointalk don't use Google Adsense ? on: February 22, 2015, 09:11:54 AM
Not to mention that Adsense typically doesn't pay as well as other monetization methods (ie direct ad sales like the forum is already doing)

Actually I ran the numbers and for vast swathes of time it would provide more $s. It takes a very high btc price to take the crown from simple CPM adsense.
2256  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Have American hasher producers surrender? on: February 22, 2015, 09:09:40 AM
I've got some ideas, mostly sprouted from discussions around the BE300. I'm contemplating fetching some sample chips from Spondoolies to see what we can do with 'em, but I don't know if we have the tools required to work with BGA properly. Just guessing Bitmain doesn't sell chips, since I've never seen a third-party miner with their chips on it, but the current gen would be super nice to play with in the design idea Novak and I came up with.

Avalon have the latest gen chip that is still accessible to integrators.
2257  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Next consumer model miner on: February 22, 2015, 09:07:51 AM
Since they've made exactly one home miner ever. Granted it's a really freakin' good one...
Lets be fair, if it wasn't priced to clear then it wouldn't be nearly as popular compared to S5s

I like both miners myself.  I do think price is important part of a miner.  I don't think saying it is partially based on price is a bad thing.  If anything I give them credit for their pricing.

Selling at a loss (clearly) is not good for any of us though. It's not sustainable and everyone loses in the end.
2258  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Next consumer model miner on: February 21, 2015, 06:43:36 PM
Since they've made exactly one home miner ever. Granted it's a really freakin' good one...

Lets be fair, if it wasn't priced to clear then it wouldn't be nearly as popular compared to S5s [if they didn't also have jet fans] or the Avalon4. Really the Avalon4 is what the SP20 should have been in terms of design.
2259  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: How to monitor a 36 pcs SP20 Farm ? on: February 21, 2015, 10:29:50 AM
I thought Spondoolies had their own propriety software for larger clients? CC definitely does (its pretty cool), not sure on Bitmain.
2260  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.25/GH & 0.51W/GH on: February 21, 2015, 10:14:51 AM
Because many people do have free or next to free power, and most people aren't looking for a 50 day ROI.

I've been wondering about free or low cost power.  I've  been to trying research and figure out how to find exactly that for a few weeks now, but to no avail.  No one I know has unlimited power included in their homeowners or something similar.

I'd love to hear some solid advice on how to join these many people with an edge on power costs.

Thanks.

Europe requires a hell of a lot of heating, which is elec/gas that would have otherwise been burnt for free.
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