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2641  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2018, 06:24:33 PM
Fortunately, I don't have any BTC in Kraken... But I do have 12000 € worth of altcoins... Let's hope we won't get Gox'ed!

It sure looks like a mammoth upgrade. Not normal. Not a good sign.
2642  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2018, 06:41:25 AM
It's not a sophism. The key word here is "liberty". Are you willing to compromise Bitcoin's decentralization by HARD-FORKING it to a bigger block size, so that you can buy your coffee at Starbucks and keep a permanent record of it in the blockchain? Bitcoin's enemies will still exist, and will still spam the network. Then what? Increase the block size even more, to accumulate more garbage? Another hard fork? Where does it end?

[ ... ]
I have yet to see anyone explain how increasing the blocksize increases centralization. It seems to be some idea that just took hold and that everyone believes in, because they believe in it.

And it doesn't end. There will always be a need for improvements because there will always be competitors ready to take over if we stagnate. stagnation is death.

[ ... ]

Of course it doesn't end. The "it" in my "Where does it end?" rhetorical question refers to the endless hard-forking, not to progress in general.

I don't think there's any point in analysing it any further. Some of us are conservative and choose the slow, scientific approach. Others are more impatient and want a solution "right here, right now". We can agree to disagree.
2643  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 06, 2018, 09:51:09 PM
BIG BLOCKER nutjobs REEEEEEEEE!
Suggest a better (implementable in the real world) alternative for getting more throughput. Any of you.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

Just replace Safety with Throughput.

Be patient, people! The scaling problem will be solved, and it will be solved in the right way, and for the long term. Nobody wants a temporary "patch" that requires a hard fork and compromises decentralization. When there are valid reasons to increase the block size, it will be done.
Except that's not even an analogy, that's just replacing one word with another in an unrelated sentence.

Also define "valid reason". We dislike sophism around here.

It's not a sophism. The key word here is "liberty". Are you willing to compromise Bitcoin's decentralization by HARD-FORKING it to a bigger block size, so that you can buy your coffee at Starbucks and keep a permanent record of it in the blockchain? Bitcoin's enemies will still exist, and will still spam the network. Then what? Increase the block size even more, to accumulate more garbage? Another hard fork? Where does it end?

What's needed is a solution that is inherently scalable by design, such as the Lightning Network (or better ones that will surely come). It just doesn't make sense to do a hard fork that merely alleviates the problem temporarily while compromising decentralization, when a much more elegant solution does exist, has already been tested and is almost ready to implement. After LN is implemented, there may be a need for a moderate increase in block size. That's the "valid reason" you are asking. A reason that comes from scientific method, not from a thoughtless "bigger is better" mentality.

The blockchain simply cannot hold every little insignificant transaction that is ever made. It is a waste of resources and totally inefficient. Back in the days when transaction volume was low/moderate, this could be tolerated. Not anymore. Have you kept every little note you've ever made in every little piece of paper since you were born? Do you keep all the shopping lists you make every time you go to the supermarket in a log book for future reference? Should every blackboard on every classroom be made to permanently preserve everything that's written on it?

There has to be a garbage collection mechanism in Bitcoin. We've reached a point where the garbage has become too much for the network to keep storing. The solution is NOT to make more room for even more garbage, but to find a way to destroy them and keep them out of the network. That's what LN does. Thousands of "coffee-sized" transactions aggregated to a single transaction that only takes a small fraction of a block instead of flooding the network. No loss of significance of information, because such information is not significant. No hard fork needed! Want to do an important transaction on-chain? You can, just like today. And you will pay much less fees than today, because LN will free the network from all those millions of petty cash transactions that would otherwise flood it.

Sorry for the long post. It just infuriates me when people fail to see the moon and keep staring at the finger pointing to it...
2644  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 06, 2018, 02:24:09 PM
BIG BLOCKER nutjobs REEEEEEEEE!
Suggest a better (implementable in the real world) alternative for getting more throughput. Any of you.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

Just replace Safety with Throughput.

Be patient, people! The scaling problem will be solved, and it will be solved in the right way, and for the long term. Nobody wants a temporary "patch" that requires a hard fork and compromises decentralization. When there are valid reasons to increase the block size, it will be done.
2645  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 06, 2018, 10:46:15 AM
thought that mouse/monkey thing not cute, maybe edible lol, but more determined, hence posted here
this is the finger i will hodl, no matter how wild a ride finger might give, no matter what occurs, i is hodl here

It reminded me of a documentary I once watched, which showed that small mice are a delicacy in certain regions of China, and are often eaten alive without cooking! Yuck!

I like your explanation. That little mouse is a true HoDLer!
2646  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 06, 2018, 10:19:00 AM


What a cute little thing!

I want to eat it alive!
2647  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 04, 2018, 12:24:17 AM
I'm guessing the above post by Dabs is very much related to the first paragraph of my comment above...  Wink

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I didn't get any Ripple or Stellar. I got other ones instead.

Fair enough, and congrats on your gains, which, after reading your long reply to JJG, I'm sure are well-deserved.

I'm jealous!
2648  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 03, 2018, 11:21:48 PM
Ripple? The FOMO is hitting me... but I can’t swap my Bitcoin for.... that!!! What the hell is wrong with these people?
I don't know if I even want to swap my fiat for... that...

It just doesn't make any sense  Huh

That's what I thought too, and didn't swap... But was that the smartest choice? After watching my friend's Kraken account balance going from 2000 € to 30000 € in a matter of weeks, I can't help but wonder, what if...

But, let's keep the spirit positive!

Something tells me I'll be the winner of micgoossens' game this time. Which means we're going to reach $24777 on the 10th of February. Which makes us all winners I guess!

Go BTC go!


Edit:

Wheeeee! My double digits is halfway to triple digits. Hodler for hire.

I'm guessing the above post by Dabs is very much related to the first paragraph of my comment above...  Wink
2649  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 03, 2018, 08:04:16 PM
I think you're friend was actually right that btc was too expensive though . how ironic
The irony must be so subtle that I can't see it.  We're not talking "The Gift of the Magi" ironic here; I think it's more a case of shit luck.  The exchange AlcoHoDL set up his friend on just happened to have the mix of the alts that would prove to do well and only those alts in fact.

What's ironic is that AlcoHoDL calls this person friend yet sets them up on Kraken.  Friends don't let friends do Kraken.

Thankfully it all worked out.

LOL, you're right about Kraken, but it worked OK at the time...

Good thing is that he is now a HoDLer! A Ripple/Stellar HoDLer! He just logs in to Kraken to check his balance. Every other day he calls me and thanks me for what I've done for him. And whenever we go out for dinner or drinks, he always insists on paying the bill. So I got something out of it too, thanks XRP/XLM!
2650  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 03, 2018, 01:01:55 PM
It’s just the great crypto rotation. Next week it will be Raiblocks, Iota and NEM.  

Notice how everyone has forgotten about Bcash?

A few months ago I helped a friend setup a Kraken account to buy some BTC. This guy is completely tech-/crypto-illiterate. To him, Bitcoin, Ripple, Stellar, DOGE, are all equivalent.

A few weeks later he told me that BTC was too expensive for him to buy (a common newbie reaction). I explained to him that 1 BTC = 1000 mBTC, etc., so even 0.1 BTC is still a good investment. He ignored my advice. Using common sense, he concluded that the only chance he has to quickly multiply his investment would be to buy cheaper altcoins, because, according to his thinking, if they're cheap they have the potential to grow much faster and much more than BTC.

He bought a few altcoins. No BTC. His two biggest purchases were 10000 Ripple and 10000 Stellar Lumens. He paid about 2000 € for both purchases.

Today, his crypto stash is valued in excess of 30000 € (a 15x gain), with the majority of the gains coming from XRP and XLM. All this in just 4 months! Had he followed my advice, he would have less than 1/4 of what he has now...

I told him that he should consider buying some BTC, but he's blinded by his unexpected gains and is now determined to ride the Ripple/Stellar wave until the end. I just hope he won't be disappointed when the trend reverses and the bank-coins start losing value (or BTC does a 10x again this year)...
2651  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 11:24:09 AM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST       

MERRY XMAS TO Y'ALL     AND GOOD LUCK

Nice, so plopping all the dates into Excel and converting/calculating gives:

4/3/18      Average
2/19/18      Median



We love you, Santa Geek!   Kiss

Haha maybe to turn into eastern bunny geek after hitting 24777 ( if we get iT in time)

We will! Grin

And many thanks for the cool games!
2652  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 09:21:52 AM
Cardano is a threat to Ethereum.  It is a smart contract platform.  Ethereum uses Solidity as its programming language.  Solidity is immature as a language and potentially quite dangerous due to poorly understood behavior.  Cardano uses Haskell which is a mature programming language.  I don’t know enough about Haskell to comment further.  

Haskell is a functional (as opposed to procedural) programming language that is well established and with an excellent track record in the scientific community. It's a good thing.
2653  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 09:06:07 PM
Nah, just an old supporter from times back and still holding so far. Interesting by the way how a proponent of X is always 'a shill' in this world. As if every BTC supporter would be a 'shill' as well.
People have differing interests, and some are more right than others: there is not much more to it.  The fact that you insist on calling me 'a shill' is further proof to the in group/out group cultism that this community has tended to show for years already.

I think it has to do with one's frequency of posts about coin A, in a thread that talks about coin B. It's not about what one posts, but where he/she posts it.

This is a general comment, not about you.

Edit: bitserve beat me to it.
2654  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 05:46:08 AM
So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

Do yourself a favour. Get a TREZOR. Seriously. I don't think you want to expose yourself to the risks of owning and maintaining a paper wallet. Write your 24-word seed on 2-3 small pieces or paper, laminate them, and store/hide them safely in 2-3 separate places. Also, use an additional 25th word/phrase (passphrase), so that even if someone finds your seed, it will be useless without the passphrase.

All done! You can sleep peacefully at night. Definitely worth the 100-something € to buy the TREZOR.
2655  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 12:01:56 AM
Sorry for posting way off topic this morning, I was in panic mode. I know you guys are always on here, and I appreciate your help. Looks like I actually got my coins back now. (mind blown) I got on this morning to send a transaction, I was watching it on the blockchain, 2 hours later. A separate transaction appeared sending my remaining coins to unknown address. Which turns out, is one of my own hidden addresses. I know change can be sent back to hidden addresses, my understanding is it's always in the same Transaction ID though. This transaction shows on the blockchain with it's own ID but doesn't show in my wallet.

That's the first time I've ever seen a backdoor virus detected on this pc and I definitely did not turn defender off myself. Maybe that's just a coincidence and it was leading to draw the wrong conclusions. I dunno. I did a format and reinstall of windows 3 days ago because windows was reporting corrupt system files when trying to update. I've only installed programs I consider trustworthy since, so I'm really surprised to find a backdoor got on here. Anyway, think I'm going to take a nap when my blood pressure returns to normal.

Congrats man! That was close!

Losing 0.1 BTC is nothing compared to losing $45k...
2656  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 12:00:12 AM
Yeah, Trezor. My only question there is what happens if they get hacked, and is there a way to run your own trezor server on your own system (so you don't every have to depend on the Trezor company to be in business)?

No need to worry. If the TREZOR company goes bust, just enter your seed in a Ledger. They are compatible. It's a standard. There will always be a way to get to your coins from your seed. Plus, the servers of these companies don't know (and can't know, by design) your seed or your private keys.

Which HW wallets do you like more? I have a ledger and have not used a Trezor.

I own both TREZOR and Ledger h/w wallets. Well, TREZOR was my first, and hence has seen much heavier use than the Ledger. I like both. The good thing about the Ledger is that it supports many more coins than the TREZOR, and the Ledger team is usually quicker to release support for forks, updates, etc. Also, the Ledger contains a "secure element" that is supposed to improve security. I think both are more or less equivalent for most users, and they are currently the best you can get, but I tend to like the TREZOR slightly more, probably for sentimental/subjective rather than technical reasons...

jojo69 has posted a comparison video. Watch it for a more hands-on comparison.
2657  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 28, 2017, 11:18:51 PM
Yeah, Trezor. My only question there is what happens if they get hacked, and is there a way to run your own trezor server on your own system (so you don't every have to depend on the Trezor company to be in business)?

No need to worry. If the TREZOR company goes bust, just enter your seed in a Ledger. They are compatible. It's a standard. There will always be a way to get to your coins from your seed. Plus, the servers of these companies don't know (and can't know, by design) your seed or your private keys.
2658  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 28, 2017, 09:33:13 PM
He got a confirm. 45k lost. Sad

Oh man, really sorry to hear that. From the moment I read your first post about this, I knew it was a losing battle. It's tough to outrun the network (even the slow and overloaded Bitcoin network). It was inevitable that he would get a confirmation before you could act...

Some advice to help avoid situations like this:

1. Buy (and use) a TREZOR or Ledger h/w wallet.
2. Use a good Anti-Virus s/w (not M$ SUCKurity ASSentials or DAFTender).
3. Train yourself to sense intrusions (needs years of experience).
4. Be paranoid about the organization of apps and files on your PC.
5. Don't use Windows 10 if possible. It significantly compromises (3) and (4) among other negatives.
6. Online and PC/phone wallets are to hold small amounts of coins, and only temporarily.
7. Buy (and use) a TREZOR or Ledger h/w wallet.

Again, really sorry for the loss, and I hope it was a small percentage of your total portfolio.
2659  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 28, 2017, 06:31:16 PM

Sorry... Post corrected!

Thanks for the batch file link jojo69! Worked great!
2660  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 28, 2017, 05:59:00 PM
Edit: maybe the xvitaly thingy posted by NiceSoft12 jojo69?

That was a great post. I found two more batch files for the removal of telemetry updates from a Windows 7 installation. Didn't keep the links unfortunately, but you can find them easily by Googling for them. Applied them all, to all of my PCs. No side effects. And hopefully a cleaner, more secure system.

Thanks NiceSoft12!

Edit: Thanks jojo69!
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