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4361  Economy / Reputation / Re: Tomatocage wakes up, posts a ref link... be careful on: June 07, 2019, 12:30:40 PM
There’s no way the original Tomatocage is in control of this account any more. Coming back after so long & posting a referral link is out of character.

Take precautions when interacting with the account.

No Red Paint TM on their trust wall to serve as a warning?
Done. Tomato shouldn't be anywhere near DT, so this is fine.

What a savior. What would we do without you?
4362  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Zealand ChristChurch mass shootings >:( >:( on: June 07, 2019, 12:18:27 PM
Sure, I made an assumption (one I didn't actually even explicitly state BTW), and so did the article. So your assumption is some how more valid than my assumption? LOL, K.

Yes, my assumption is more valid than yours because mine stems from quotes from people actually affected by the issue (you are not affected). Your assumption is based on the desire to wedge a news item into the context of your own tired talking points.

I love the hypocrisy as you simultaneously call me a hypocrite. What I said is very much on topic. You are a fearful little man, and you form your opinions from a position of Pathos, not Logos. Your emotions rule you to the point you are unable to use simple logic to see how your own statements are self contradictory.

Wow dude. You just described yourself more accurately than I've ever seen anybody else do.

OOooO they are "allowed" to keep the rest of their guns. How gracious of them to "allow" them to have an inalienable human right.

Inalienable human right my ass. Only in spoiled pasty class America are people that delusional.

I will let all the people know who have had "the rest of their guns" taken, up to and including air rifles. I am sure they will be glad to hear they get to keep a handful of pea shooters.

You're not perhaps letting your emotions rule you to the point that you are using ridiculous hyperbole here are you?

BTW, what the fuck is a "military-grade weapon" anyway? Let me guess, the black scary looking ones? You don't have a fucking clue what you are even talking about, please stop pretending you know shit about firearms.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/10/711820023/new-zealand-passes-law-banning-most-semi-automatic-weapons

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Less than one month after a gunman killed 50 people in an attack on two mosques in Christchurch, the New Zealand Parliament voted Wednesday to ban most semi-automatic and military-style weapons.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/20/asia/new-zealand-christchurch-gun-ban-intl/index.html

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All military-style semi-automatic weapons, assault rifles and high-capacity magazines will be banned in New Zealand following the mass shootings at two Christchurch mosques that killed 50 people, New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced on Thursday.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12234959

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That reform banned most semi-automatic military-style weapons and their parts

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a26895169/new-zealand-ban-semi-automatic-guns-mass-shooting/

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New Zealand Is Taking Away Its Citizens' Military-Grade Weapons. Good.

Jacinta Arden, New Zealand PM:

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“Today I am announcing that New Zealand will ban all military-style semi-automatic weapons. We will also ban all assault rifles. We will ban all high capacity magazines. We will ban all parts with the ability to convert semi-automatic or any other type of firearm into a military-style semi-automatic weapon."

I don't need to know much about guns to know that you're an asshole.

By that logic your opinions mean nothing as well. I can find quotes from people living there that agree with me too. Furthermore it does directly effect me because weak minded people like you will use policies like this as justification for stripping my rights here. This was even explicitly the intent of the shooter as stated in his manifesto.

Yeah, what spoiled Americans we are with our highfalutin rights to not be subjects to the violence of tyrants and criminals. Also "pasty class" is that a racial reference you fucking bigot?

Not hyperbole, fact. You quoting the New Zealand law doesn't magically impart knowledge of firearms to you. I am well aware of the language of the law, and it consists of completely arbitrary standards designed to make the nation defenseless and dependent on the state monopoly of force. Just because other retards use the term "military-style weapons" does not magically make it less of a totally arbitrary terminology. You seem upset. Didn't you just get done accusing me of being motivated by my emotions?

4363  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion] Disable rights to edit Subject titles if posters are not OPs on: June 07, 2019, 10:19:21 AM
I think a good middle ground would be to automatically make all quotes within an OP mirror the OP title, and still allow anyone to edit it. This way people can still choose to edit it, but they will not be unknowingly repeating edited titles.
4364  Economy / Reputation / Re: Never argue with an idiot.... on: June 07, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Yeah, I included the entire sentence from the original quote since you selectively edited it. What part of this makes you less illiterate?
4365  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Zealand ChristChurch mass shootings >:( >:( on: June 07, 2019, 10:01:18 AM
LOL! Let me get this straight Nutilduhh... you chastise me saying I didn't read the article, then say TL;DR, shortly after claiming I am making assumptions directly after parroting the assumptions in the article for reasons why people aren't turning in their firearms.

Just admit you didn't read the article. Your version of the article is making assumptions that its reader base (you) want to hear. That's how that website supports itself: constructing fearmongering, conspiratorial narratives that resonate within the echo chamber hive mind of its readership, reinforcing absurd and religiously-held beliefs. Your article didn't say peep about the fact that maybe (just maybe) the gun owners are waiting for clarification on how much money they will receive for forking over their military-grade weapons. What you and the story you quoted fail to mention is, they are allowed to keep the rest of their guns!

The rest of your comment is just too petty, ridiculous and hypocritical (and off-topic) to respond to.

The fact is very few people complied. Sure, I made an assumption (one I didn't actually even explicitly state BTW), and so did the article. So your assumption is some how more valid than my assumption? LOL, K.

I love the hypocrisy as you simultaneously call me a hypocrite. What I said is very much on topic. You are a fearful little man, and you form your opinions from a position of Pathos, not Logos. Your emotions rule you to the point you are unable to use simple logic to see how your own statements are self contradictory.

OOooO they are "allowed" to keep the rest of their guns. How gracious of them to "allow" them to have an inalienable human right. I will let all the people know who have had "the rest of their guns" taken, up to and including air rifles. I am sure they will be glad to hear they get to keep a handful of pea shooters. BTW, what the fuck is a "military-grade weapon" anyway? Let me guess, the black scary looking ones? You don't have a fucking clue what you are even talking about, please stop pretending you know shit about firearms.
4366  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Zealand ChristChurch mass shootings >:( >:( on: June 07, 2019, 09:19:13 AM

You clearly didn't read the original article sourced by your conspiracy enthusiast website:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12235230

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New figures show gun owners are holding back on handing in their firearms, because they're waiting to hear how much the Government will pay for them...

There are around 250,000 licenced firearm holders in New Zealand and it's estimated as many as 300,000 guns could now be illegal.

It comes as gun owners are waiting on any details around compensation for their guns...

"If they are being serious about their considerations and ensuring that there is fair and reasonable compensation, then firearm owners will wait a bit longer to make sure it is just and it is fair when it is received."

She said that people were likely to still be considering if they would claim their firearms as heirlooms or sell them to collectors.

McKee expected most people would comply with the laws, but she said that there was no trust in the system whatsoever among firearms owners, and that people felt blindsided and blamed.

"We are effectively being punished for the acts of a foreign terrorist, and we want to make sure that our personal and private property is adequately compensated when it is confiscated."...

McKee said firearms owners were looking for compensation for parts as well as the weapons themselves.

TL;DR: has nothing to do with "the right to self defense." Your story took one fact and spun it into a narrative that has nothing to do with the original news article.

LOL! Let me get this straight Nutilduhh... you chastise me saying I didn't read the article, then say TL;DR, shortly after claiming I am making assumptions directly after parroting the assumptions in the article for reasons why people aren't turning in their firearms. How do you even function in the real world with that kind of inability to use simple logic? I think you are just a fearful little boy afraid of real men willing to stand up for their natural human right to self defense (yes this is directly related to self defense). Weak men often feel the need to attack stronger men because they are intimidated by what they will never be, some one with a pair of nuts. Of course when there is blood in the streets you are the first to run and hide behind them. As usual, nearly every gun control argument comes from a position of Pathos.
4367  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialism is so bad that it allows poor people to live. Horrible true story on: June 07, 2019, 09:13:29 AM
Socialism creates disincentives to work and also to maximize productivity when working. It fails every time it has been tried and each time it has been tried, the country’s people see lower standard of living and the state has had to use violent force to compel people to participate in the socialism.

Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people over the past 120 years.

I wonder how many people die a year from not being able to afford basic necessities."
Absolutely.mate since poor people are dying because of being denied from basic necessities most specially in the third world countries and those who are in mountain places
They are the one whose mostly needs this services but the sad thing is they are not in priority for health services..because just like what the poster above said that doctors are aiming for higher payments than to serve poor with small income at stake

Anyone can point at a problem. You aren't providing a solution, you are just saying what is, is not good enough. Socialism is not a solution, as history shows. In the end even more people end up lacking basic necessities. Way to fix it.
4368  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Zealand ChristChurch mass shootings >:( >:( on: June 07, 2019, 07:54:04 AM
NEVER give up your right to self defence. EVER.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/after-new-zealand-banned-guns-only-530-of-300000-people-turned-them-in/
4369  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Youtube starts campaign of mass censorship and demonetization on: June 07, 2019, 07:52:59 AM
Another related article: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/06/06/journalist-and-educator-among-those-caught-youtubes-latest-attempt-purge-online-hate
4370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialism is so bad that it allows poor people to live. Horrible true story on: June 07, 2019, 07:40:27 AM
Despite the obvious fact that a privileged person in capitalism will be personally better off than they would in socialism without their privilege.

This statement pretty much sums up the mentality of Socialists and Communists. It is not really about improving the quality of life for themselves or others, it is about coveting what others have and wanting to take it from them to create some sort of perverted sense of "equality" where everyone is equally impoverished and enslaved. This is why Socialism and Communism are inherently totalitarian, because they can not exist without taking from people what they have, earned or received by chance of birth.

No it doesn't have to take away.  Socialism can start by fairly allocating everything that is produced going forward.
That would be taking away the means of production from those that own it. If someone previously invested in equipment that produces goods, "fairly allocating everything that is produced going forward" would reduce the value of that equipment down to zero.

See Venezuela. American companies funded a large portion of their refining infrastructure, they nationalized it, then it rotted into a completely useless state because Communists are not good business managers and are totally inefficient. Now they are all starving because the nation depended on that refining capacity and Maduro is blaming the US for doing this to them. What a joke.
4371  Economy / Reputation / Re: Tomatocage wakes up, posts what looks like a ref link... be careful on: June 07, 2019, 06:45:31 AM
Conspiracy theorist.
Man, somebody is in control of that account *edit: i.e., not the original owner* and has been for a long time.  My money has always been on Quickseller, though he's vehemently denied it.  It was Tomatocage and OgNasty who got me booted off DT in 2017(?) via their exclusions, which happened pretty close together if I recall correctly.  Someone on the anti-DT/anti-Lauda's gang team has control of the Tomatocage account, and I'm pretty sure of that.

But who knows.  Maybe it changed hands again.


Suddenly you all care about default trust list collusion? Interesting.
4372  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Youtube starts campaign of mass censorship and demonetization on: June 07, 2019, 06:40:29 AM
It is incredibly ironic that Google announced their censorship only one day after the 30th anniversary of Tiananmen Square.

I bet those cunts probably wanted to do it the day of, and some PR weasel had to talk them out of it.
4373  Economy / Reputation / Re: Tomatocage wakes up, posts what looks like a ref link... be careful on: June 07, 2019, 01:34:55 AM
Its too bad the timing of him coming back has nothing to do with integrity, and I am confident the tides would change in regards to his inclusions.

This is nothing more than a smear attempt because how he acts compared to you and who you support would highlight the level of your corruption.

Whatever you say, Tomotaface. We all know you control that account you slimy pos. Roll Eyes

Conspiracy theorist.
4374  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales on: June 06, 2019, 04:58:35 PM
Saudi Arabia is a proxy of Israel. Once you understand this, all of this makes a lot more sense. Look into the bloodlines of The House of Saud.
4375  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Youtube starts campaign of mass censorship and demonetization on: June 06, 2019, 04:19:50 PM
"Hate speech" is a really anti-freedom concept which too often amounts to just "unpopular speech". Unfortunately, a lot of people believe in the idea, on both the political left and right. In the end, YouTube may end up losing too many creators with these kinds of actions, and they may suffer financially for it. YouTube Premium's original series for example are all completely soulless corporate boardroom creations -- if that's what they envision as YouTube's future, then they're going to be out-competed eventually.

If I was YouTube, I would make in-house monetization much more selective, but give creators the ability to add their own advertising using the exact same systems (eg. text pop-ups, wait-5-seconds, sidebar ads, etc.) for a monthly fee dependent on the view count. Then all creators would have the option of negotiating ads out-of-band, and YouTube could more reasonably position itself as just a platform.

Are there any good YouTube alternatives? https://d.tube/ is one which seems vaguely decentralized, though its underlying steem and ipfs platforms are naïve "do the first thing which comes to mind" systems. I have zero confidence in the robustness of these systems, and it's not even a "perfect is the enemy of good" situation, since dtube is also pretty janky. It's disappointing, though I guess there just aren't enough people interested in this stuff to put enough man-hours into it.

I really doubt that YouTube is bad enough at this point for any centralized YouTube clone to become popular enough to be profitable. Delivering video is expensive, dealing with copyright complaints is expensive, and YouTube has the advantage of a huge historical library, a pretty good AI, and network effect. IMO you could throw $100 million at the problem and still not out-compete YouTube at this point, unfortunately.

I think people have come to notice that no one on the internet is as good for video streaming. Youtube and Google may have their flaws, but all the good content is on youtube -- it's the only place you can go if you want to make any money making content.

The alternatives don't have that yet, you can't make any money at all on other platforms and their payments are shoddy at best (this is being compared to youtube competitors, not youtube live competitors like twitch)

Youtube should really open up their advertising platform, and allow people to make money with their own ads on their own video -- though I don't think Youtube wants this as it opens up an issue of if they should also be censoring the ads that are on their platform which arent their ads. Should they be taking a cut of these ads as well? I would think yes, but what's a fair number.

Many things to think about, and I don't think Google wants to spend the money at the moment to fix this issue -- they would rather just demonetize and move on. It's a lot easier and cheaper, less media coverage.

I think both of you are largely missing the point. This is not about profit, this is about power and control. Just look at the classic corporate media. Are they profitable? Hell no. They are subsidized and exist because they serve and deliver certain narratives that give those in power more control. They do this at the cost of their reputation and their bottom line because they are now completely dependent on these subsidies. This is about maintaining propaganda, not profit. Everyone is losing their minds because Russia bought some Facefuck ads, meanwhile these companies are very openly meddling in our election process by silencing anything but the corporate mainstream narrative. I am sure it is just a total coincidence that so many of them are so cozy with China. BUT MUH RUSSIA COLLUSION!

EDIT: http://www.bitchute.com seems to be the leading alternative video platform of choice so far.
Related article: https://off-guardian.org/2019/06/05/youtubes-latest-purge/
4376  Economy / Reputation / Re: Never argue with an idiot.... on: June 06, 2019, 02:22:54 PM
We all know you don't have the self control to ignore me forever (as your comment shows), but one can only hope.
Nah, it's not what you said.
Definition of ignore

transitive verb
1 : to refuse to take notice of

I am sorry neither of you learned to use the English language. Keep reaching Stretch Armstrong.
4377  Other / Meta / Re: inline comment in trust setting. on: June 06, 2019, 05:45:17 AM
I would say this was a great idea if anyone cared to justify their actions on the trust list, but they don't.
Anyone is free to use it, there are no push.

That is kind of my point. The people who should be using it most aren't going to because they would have a hard time justifying their actions objectively.
4378  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Youtube starts campaign of mass censorship and demonetization on: June 06, 2019, 05:43:26 AM
i think youtube just make the rule just for decreased number of amateur youtuber and keep the good quality youtuber to make them have money

lol "good quality". If it was good quality they wouldn't have to burn their competition off of the platform, they would have organic viewership. This is the corporate media desperately gasping for air before it drowns in a lake of it's own bullshit.
4379  Other / Meta / Re: inline comment in trust setting. on: June 06, 2019, 05:28:17 AM
I would say this was a great idea if anyone cared to justify their actions on the trust list, but they don't.
4380  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How to not care what the society thinks? on: June 06, 2019, 05:26:32 AM
Not giving a fuck what anyone thinks about you is having true freedom.
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