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3521  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 14, 2019, 11:00:43 PM
My "lies" and "trust abuse" are only documented in your minds in the form of suspicions and posted accusations. I have been one of the most if not the most vocal opponent of trust system abuse. My crime is resisting your minuscule amount of authority given to you by an apathetic user base, not lying or "coordinated trust system abuse". Having found no actual malfeasance no matter how hard you look over years, you are now forced to just pretend it is true and hope people are too dumb and lazy to actually check for themselves knowing no one wants to get involved in the drama you create.
3522  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 14, 2019, 08:09:42 AM
I've never been called a jellyfish. I'm just fed up with juvenile bitching, and attempts to turn Bitcoin Talk into a clone of the UK parliament in Westminster. I think it's time to stop throwing bread rolls at each other ( reference to the English public schools system ), and get on with the real mission, and I think that this is to encourage economic change in the world.

That's the end of my comments on it, and I don't want to be drawn any further into discussing specific members and problems that they may or may not be causing. I'll leave that to the BT police.

Of course you don't, you just prefer to take easy potshots from the side lines then run away at the slightest hint of push back. Its really easy to criticize when you aren't the target. It is way easier to just turn a blind eye to systematic abuse then poopoo at the results having personally done nothing to change it.

“No matter how much we ask after the truth, self-awareness is often unpleasant. We do not feel kindly toward the Truthsayer.”

― Frank Herbert, quote from God Emperor of Dune
3523  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 14, 2019, 07:30:25 AM

So you are claiming to enjoy this attention?  

Normally one would think that this was for sig promotion, but this is obviously not the case here. I wonder if many people send tips to Bitcoin addresses in signatures.

If only I could stand aside judgmentally and point my finger with well documented trust system abusers on my trust list like you, things would be so much easier. You cry and cry about the conflict you desperately want to avoid as you enable it.

If Vod doesn't have any repercussions for his actions he is just going to continue his pattern of abuse of the system, and jellyfish like you will stand to the side and point fingers at anyone daring to speak up about it, because you don't want to be targeted next. Much easier to just grab a pitchfork and join a mob than supporting what is right isn't it? That's fine, it is always some one else that is targeted, and it will never be your turn right?
3524  Economy / Reputation / Re: TECSHARE is abusing the trust system on: September 14, 2019, 05:19:54 AM
I used the trust system against you once, that was for you doxing and reporting OGNasty to the IRS, and Theymos himself excluded you over it and said that was a valid case for a negative rating.

Oh, you'll include Theymos in your coordinated attacks against me now?  Is that why he has excluded you "for the first time" for over five years?   You read his mind like you do mine?   No wonder you are obsessed with clowns and circus acts...  Ah techy, your stupidity amuses me,and time you spend making up these theories is flattering.

Smiley

You never did tell me who I am coordinating with, myself? Theymos?

It is a documented fact regardless of what you want to characterize it as. Also, Theymos is currently only excluding one of us right now, so the fact he excluded me in the past is irrelevant.


3525  Economy / Reputation / Re: TECSHARE is abusing the trust system on: September 14, 2019, 03:19:54 AM
Thanks for the support. I just want to correct one thing though. I never gave Vod a retaliatory trust rating, ever. He has given me negative ratings several times over the years for criticizing his behavior, but the community forced him to remove it, and I have never once responded in kind. Then earlier this year when he doxed and reported OGNasty to the IRS, I finally negative rated him for that. Of course a short time later here he is retaliating.

Let me clear things up for everyone.   At no time has the community forced me to remove anything.  I have given techy many chances over the years, but I can't tolerate trust abuse coordinated to ruin my reputation.  One day I may remove it yet again in yet another interest of peace, but right now he needs to know his abuse is noticed and unwanted.

I used the trust system against you once, that was for you doxing and reporting OGNasty to the IRS, and Theymos himself excluded you over it and said that was a valid case for a negative rating. You on the other hand, have left me completely undocumented and fabricated negative ratings repeatedly over the past 6 years, and in order to save face, yes you were forced to remove them. So is your argument now I coordinated with myself to have you repeatedly abuse the trust system against me over 6 years? You didn't "give me any chances", you have been stalking me and demonstrably lying about me to justify your repeated abuse of the trust system ratings over half a decade because I dared publicly criticize your behavior. In the interest of peace... lol please Vod, I can only piss myself laughing so much at your presentation of false moderation and reason. Everyone knows you boil bunnies under a shrine with my profile pic in it every night before bed.

At this point I don't even blame you, I blame this community for continuing to prop you up and enabling your long history of unstable and abusive behavior against anyone who criticizes you. This is exactly the kind of shit that makes me not at all feel bad about poking fun at these circus acts, because this community is too busy hiding in a corner unwilling to take a difficult stand to fix the problem, but they are perfectly willing to bitch about the symptoms of not doing so perpetually and pin the fault on their favorite scapegoats coincidentally designated by the perpetrators.

It costs the community as individuals nothing to leave these abusers in a position of authority, and it costs me nothing to piss in the eyes of these clowns so much they throw entire festivals to try to slander me. In summary, none of this drama bothers me, but I would much rather be doing my own thing instead of dealing with the sad party magician and his clown friends. Unfortunately I don't have a choice in the matter until the community stops pretending these people are in any way respectable and should be in any position of authority over anyone, and starts collectively taking responsibility for everyone they have been turning a blind eye to. Until that happens this place is always going to be 4Chan with an extensive research library, no matter what I do.

Enjoy your desperate attempts to create even more confusion to cover up for your own behavior Vod.

3526  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion] Troll Score on: September 14, 2019, 12:05:21 AM
The price of free speech comes at the cost of seeing words you don't agree with. There is no way around it. The good news is no one ties you down and forces you to read anything.
3527  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 13, 2019, 08:17:58 AM
I think it's best to stop giving him the attention he is so desperately craving. Same as QS, he will just avoid answered questions once confronted and move on to the next imaginary allegation.

Interesting theory, the only problem is I didn't start any of these discussions targeted at me the past few days, the clowns did.

Except you opened this thread. It would have been easier for you to not, yet you did anyway.

Is there a chance we could reduce all these inter-member bitching threads.

I think so.

I did. Yet it would not have existed if the original thread was not created or locked. Apparently according to you though defending myself from imaginary allegations and drama = making imaginary allegations and creating drama. I am sure you would have much rather I just hide quietly while you and the clowns create whatever narrative around me you like as the largely apathetic disengaged community just nods their head and agrees to avoid conflict at no cost to themselves. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of complaints about drama that comes from the primary sources of it. I suppose it is an effective propaganda technique to accuse your opponent of the crimes you yourself are guilty of, I mean it worked for Marx, Hitler, and Alinsky.
3528  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 13, 2019, 06:28:19 AM
I think it's best to stop giving him the attention he is so desperately craving. Same as QS, he will just avoid answered questions once confronted and move on to the next imaginary allegation.

Interesting theory, the only problem is I didn't start any of these discussions targeted at me the past few days, the clowns did. As you can see they are far more interested in generating attention that I am. If you don't like the circus, talk to the ringleader.
3529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Deportation vs. the Cost of Letting Illegal Immigrants Stay" on: September 12, 2019, 11:11:46 PM
Trump Wins ANOTHER Major SCOTUS Victory On Illegal Immigration, New Asylum Rules Will Be UPHELD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGq-GdXavfE
3530  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 12, 2019, 09:16:54 PM
Why should I lock the thread when you are all still busy showing everyone how thirsty to "get me" in any way you can manage?
3531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SF declared the National Rifle Association as domestic terrorist organization!!! on: September 12, 2019, 05:20:46 PM
Don't know why SF wastes the time. Membership in the NRA is dropping way off, mostly because they are a more-or-less useless organization for promoting gun rights - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/267997-2019-09-11-as-nra-membership-wanes-americas-largest-black-gun-group-is.htm.

Cool

Try GOA, a real gun rights organization.

https://gunowners.org/
3532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: New Zealand ChristChurch mass shootings >:( >:( on: September 12, 2019, 05:17:07 PM
"Democrat Pulls The Most EVIL Sh* I have Ever Seen, Calls On Tech Monopoly To RESTRICT Our RIghts"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t5genoPfZM
3533  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 12, 2019, 07:38:47 AM
Excuse my off-topic (if it really is): Isn't it reputation thread?
I do not see anything meta related here.

Yeah, I noticed the original thread.

Its Meta (the original thread, anyway) because it pertains to what should or shouldn't be acceptable criteria for adding/excluding someone to/from a trust list.

Yes, of course rules only apply to those you oppose, even though this is literally about the same topic.
3534  Other / Meta / Re: Topics that should be discussed on "Off-topic" board. on: September 12, 2019, 05:57:06 AM
I think a social interaction "room" is a useful addition to any large and busy forum. It helps to build relationships, and reading non-Bitcoin related posts is a useful way to assess the character of members in my opinion, Post analysis is more useful to me than the current trust system, if one is trying gauge the honesty and responsibility of a member. Topics such as favourite music, and breakfast preferences are standard fillers to build post counts, and can be ignored fairly easily.

I have started a few posts there, and I am considering one related to a vintage rotavator that I am considering restoring. I may sell this, and I would like to receive Bitcoin for it. I would like to see if there is any interest amongst crypto users for such equipment, and, if so, which coins they would use. I believe that it is also useful to indicate that Bitcoin has a general appeal, and is not just a financial tool for bankers and computer geeks.

I agree with this assessment. To a large degree places like Politics & Society and The Wall Observer thread currently serve that purpose, but by their nature kind of tend to lend to conflict by default. I think an addition of a "casual crypto related discussion" area would be beneficial as kind of a town square. Of course this area will be a complete clusteruck with huge page turnovers if it is intended to be less strictly organized, but that is also half the fun of being involved in a living community as it happens. Anything of significant value to other existing forums generated in this area could always be quoted or moved there as well. The serious discussion area was a good attempt at this, but we simply don't have enough higher ranked users to keep the flow of discussion moving. Part of the trade off with that though is we will have to tolerate looking at a lot more garbage.
3535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Democrats Have no Credible Candidate Yet on: September 12, 2019, 03:38:53 AM
Today The Democrat party has announced who they are supporting for their candidate for president in the 2020 race.

3536  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 12, 2019, 03:30:53 AM
Quote from: redsn0w on September 08, 2019, 03:52:40 AM
Who wrote this?

Lets just keep it this way for now.

Sorry Techy, I have no idea what you are talking about ? Why do you think, when I opened thread, that I knew it was you who added BitcoinSupremo to your trust network ?


So you made assumption that I knew that it was TECHSHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to trust list or you know that I knew that it was TECHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to his trust list?

Did you "knew that it was TECHSHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to trust list or you know that I knew that it was TECHARE who included BitcoinSupremo" before you started this poll OP or not? No?

Former is publicly available information, I have no clue about later. How can I possible know what you know?
@TECSHARE, whatever you say, you have been pointed several times already who you have in your trust list, including BitcoinSupremo:
...
Anyway, truth to be told, I started this poll because I wanted to know forum member's opinion, it somehow become discussion about T. It actually wasn't my intention, I was hopping to have poll without members knowing who posted something, who included who etc. Just can't have these things around here without "investigations", eh?...

You knew I had him on my trust list. The fact that you knew months ago is publicly documented. You knew this when you posted the OP, then attempted to give the impression this was not the case several times to distract from the fact this was about targeting me directly rather than about BitcoinSupremo.

You posting it without attribution was just your way of rehashing a subject that we have already been over in such a way as to maximize attention while also not having to take any responsibility for directly accusing me of anything. Then one of your clown proxies steps in shortly after and names me by name, and looky loo you get to deny this was targeted at me while still being the ringmaster of your own personal 3 ring circus.

This is what is known in journalism as "information laundering".  This is the same exact technique DireWolfM14 used to exactly the same effect in this thread. Amazing all these coincidences, you both making a thread "not directed at me" at the same time, using the same deceptive and misleading technique, talking about exactly the same scenario. Of course we can't forget the sad party magician making his thumb disappear too. This is not how organic events by individuals occur. This is how group coordinated planned events occur.

All this is meaningless anyways. The fact is, every one in town can see you brought the whole carnival when a PM would have been any reasonable person's first step. This subject was already raised months ago in a similar 3 ring manner. Just be sure to pick up all the trash from the fairgrounds when all the carnies are done looking for clues in my toilet bowl.

3537  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT everyone? on: September 11, 2019, 10:41:10 PM
If the account is banned, what is the problem? How is a banned account going to effect the trust system? Did they leave a bunch of false ratings or is this just a pathetic stretch for you to give the impression of impropriety?

NOTE TO MODERATORS: This thread is now clearly directed at me individually, please move it to the appropriate subforum of REPUTATION as per my report where it belongs. Thank you.
No, it is not. You are missing my point here. As I said, you see everything as personal attack.

What is point of DT system if hacked accounts are "allowed" to end up in DT?

I am not missing anything. If the account was not used to abuse the trust system, and it is now banned and unable to be used, exactly what is the harm to the trust system? Of course there is no risk
What is the harm of having hacked account in default trust system? Good question. But as you have already answered it, there is no point into continuing this discussion with you.

If you don't like the answer, just pretend I said something else.
3538  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT everyone? on: September 11, 2019, 10:26:56 PM
If the account is banned, what is the problem? How is a banned account going to effect the trust system? Did they leave a bunch of false ratings or is this just a pathetic stretch for you to give the impression of impropriety?

NOTE TO MODERATORS: This thread is now clearly directed at me individually, please move it to the appropriate subforum of REPUTATION as per my report where it belongs. Thank you.
No, it is not. You are missing my point here. As I said, you see everything as personal attack.

What is point of DT system if hacked accounts are "allowed" to end up in DT?

I am not missing anything. If the account was not used to abuse the trust system, and it is now banned and unable to be used, exactly what is the harm to the trust system? Of course there is no risk, this is just another one of your increasingly thin excuses to mount this personal attack and attempt to force me to comply to your demands via mob "justice".
3539  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: [NSFW] - phisical violence in DT - "not safe for work" content on: September 11, 2019, 09:37:12 PM
If you don't like my answers, just make up your own and attribute them to me. The dynamic is the more you lash out at me, the more you give me credibility and lose your own, so I guess I should thank you and all the other clowns for giving me this opportunity to prove my merits and character so publicly and having the grace to dissasemble their own reputations so I don't have to do it.

I didn't add him out of "spite", I added him because he was targeted, and he is staying there because it is being used to target me, there is a difference. It's too bad, you seem just a mite smarter than these other clowns, but your need to belong to the clown car seems to override your better judgement.

I can't think of any possible reason "to belong to the clown car" or to any other of your imaginary conspiracy groups for that matter but I'm sure you'll enlighten me on what that reason could be.

You literally said that you (1) would have removed BitcoinSupremo if you had been notified, which turned out to be a lie (you had been notified months ago and you didn't remove him); and (2) you're not removing him now and others (the "clowns") are to blame for that. Whatever narcissistic spin you're trying to put on it, the bottom line is that you're not only misusing the trust system, you can't even man up and own it instead of resorting to playground excuses.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182672.msg52426883#msg52426883

Quote
To be perfectly frank, if some one had simply politely notified me of this issue, I probably would have just removed him. Unfortunately his words were always just a mechanism to target people for their ideas, be it about life in general or the forum. As a result, you are all essentially assuring I CAN'T remove him from my inclusions, because to do so would be to provide validation to and incentivize these coordinated kinds of reputational attacks. So, good job on making the forum a better place to be Piddles, Bozo, and Shakes.

It is human nature to want to be part of the in crowd. Imaginary? You know for a while just dismissing these accusations as conspiracy theory worked, but you and your face painted friends have jumped the shark. I don't have to convince anyone now of these coordinated attacks, you have all done an exceptionally good job doing that for me, so thank you.

Once again, I wasn't just notified, a tent was pitched, and a 3 ring circus was assembled. That is exactly what I will NEVER respond to positively, because I refuse to incentivize this attack mob type mentality by complying with its demands.
3540  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT everyone? on: September 11, 2019, 09:31:15 PM
And? If I remember right he is some one I traded with a long time ago. I don't like using countering trust ratings. What exactly is your issue other than your obsession with digging through my shit looking for peanuts?
I can't find feedback for trade and you left lots trade-feedbacks in 2013/2014. So banned and possible hacked account will one day maybe become default trust member because you think that you have traded with them long time ago?

Is it original owner who you traded with still owner of account or not? You probably know this because you trust them because you maybe remember that you traded with them?

If the account is banned, what is the problem? How is a banned account going to effect the trust system? Did they leave a bunch of false ratings or is this just a pathetic stretch for you to give the impression of impropriety?

NOTE TO MODERATORS: This thread is now clearly directed at me individually, please move it to the appropriate subforum of REPUTATION as per my report where it belongs. Thank you.
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