1. So? Bill Gator openly admitted he bought the account himself, he wasn't caught doing something shady by a 3rd party.
Right, so the exchange took place, that's why its different. He also bought it from a professional account seller and not from the original owner. 2. Yes, and we are forced to take your word for this aren't we?
3. See number 2.
Your "proof" is nothing of the sort. If in fact your account was sold there is absolutely no reason all of this additional information could not be transferred along with it.
Just put aside your grudges and think rationally for a moment: If I would go through all that trouble to sell my account, transferring over control of several coin addresses and an email address, so nobody could/would notice that it had been sold, why on earth would I attempt to sell it under my own name? I know at heart you're a conspiracy theorist and nothings going to stop you from holding some pretty wacky beliefs, but to anybody capable of entertaining a rational, unbiased thought, the discernible evidence at hand points to me still being the original owner. I see, forgiveness for thee, but not for Bill Gator in this case eh? Thanks for demonstrating the hypocrisy of tagging Bill and not you even more completely. Keep that brown on your nose, its good luck.
Once again, you walk away having learned nothing and doubling down on your own arrogance -- a tactic which has yielded nothing but unfavorable results for you in the past. I just explained to you the difference, for the 5th time. There's nothing hypocritical about it at all. There is only your inability to think rationally. Again, all we have is your word. There is literally no way for you to prove you haven't transferred your account. This has nothing to do with a grudge, this is a simple fact. If your account had been sold, the new owner would have plenty of incentive to cover up this fact and would want to pretend the transfer never happened now wouldn't they? You trying to sell it under your own name was just dumb, not proof of innocence. This is all besides the point anyway, the point being you get a pass because you suck all the right dicks, Bill Gator slaps the dicks away and he gets red marks. |
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Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I can't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it.
As has been explained to you by different people several times already, there's giant differences between my situation and others: 1. I attempted to sell my own account. Didn't hide the fact that i was doing it. 2. I couldn't find a buyer, so I kept it. 3. I would now never sell my account. There's several ways I could prove to you I've always had this account and you would reject every one. For instance, I once won 0.02 from BiPolarBob during one of his giveaways, but I deleted my BTC address from his thread. With enough hunting, I could probably find it and sign a private message from it. Its not a staked BTC address, and nobody outside of Bob or that thread knew about it. I also have a NEM address I can still sign from -- I was one of the original NEM stakeholders and heavily active throughout its launch. I also one time paid for a t-shirt using NXT, could probably dig up that address as well. At least some of the other DT are probably taking theymos' guidance into consideration upon unleashing the trust system from his direct control: - You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.
Obviously you very deeply give a fuck because you've brought this topic up several times already. Its not a black-and-white issue and your attempts to turn it into such have proven futile, even after persisting for months. Kind of like CH, you're becoming unhinged over your obsessive desire to fit a square peg into a round hole. Sorry for taking this discussion off-topic, marlboroza. 1. So? Bill Gator openly admitted he bought the account himself, he wasn't caught doing something shady by a 3rd party. 2. Yes, and we are forced to take your word for this aren't we? 3. See number 2. Your "proof" is nothing of the sort. If in fact your account was sold there is absolutely no reason all of this additional information could not be transferred along with it. I see, forgiveness for thee, but not for Bill Gator in this case eh? Thanks for demonstrating the hypocrisy of tagging Bill and not you even more completely. Keep that brown on your nose, its good luck. |
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There was no reason to share that PM without LFC's consent, he was being friendly to you FFS, total dick move. As usual, your standards only apply to everyone else, not you and yours. With Thule, CH, Quickscammer & co.  Your forced memes are a very transparent effort to cover your abuse with schlock in a pathetic attempt to put googley eyes on the turd that is your behavior and pretend it is just a funny emoji. You are a pile of shit with googley eyes stuck on it. Its not cute, it smells and it needs to be cleaned up. |
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So the IRS potentially kicking in your door is not a significant consequence? Everyone here likes to imagine this forum is just like a video game with no real world consequences. The fact is many people depend on this forum for income and this mob behavior can and does do damage to ones ability to trade here. This place is so rife with fraud building up a reputation is not an easy or quick task. It takes time, money, risk, and effort to build your reputation here just for it to be destroyed in an instant in retaliation for criticizing the wrong people. You poo poo at the idea and say people will just ignore invalid ratings and the like, but who actually takes the time to validate these ratings? Almost no one, and the ones who most need to are the least likely and the most populous. In effect this has serious repercussions on ones ability to solicit trade here among other real world consequences imposed by these control freaks.
I don't think its a reasonable risk, so not worth worrying about. When it comes to forum drama, I agree that there is no real world consequences, just an absolute waste of time. Every single day real businesses get slandered by fake reviews. Restaurants will hire people to leave fake Yelp reviews for competitors. That is the world we live in, yet they manage. I understand that it takes time to build a reputation here, but considering that the circle jerk of people complaining are not involved in business here, and those that are don't seem to have any inconvenience cast upon them, I'm hesitant to feel bad for them. Its a moral crusade for them, they have not been cut off from their income. Even despite years of this same stuff going on, I haven't seen anyone suffer any unreasonable repercussions. If I could leave negative feedback saying "Tecshare is an evil purple alien, avoid his laser beam at all cost!" and that has any effect on your business whatsoever...I really don't know what to say about that. There is absolutely no reasonable solution in that case. For the record, I'm not saying I support anyone's behavior, I'm just saying its not worth your mental health to get too involved in it. People are going to think whatever they are going to think, if you must control the narrative, you'll go insane. I am not sure what you are agreeing to, because I do not agree that none of this abusive behavior here has any real world consequences. Legitimate users often spend YEARS carefully and laboriously building up their reputations, taking risks all along the way in order to do so. Then a band of obsessive compulsive control freaks come along and strip that reputation with no examination, recourse, or accountability for ANY REASON they can dig up or manufacture in an instant. Are you saying your reputation is worthless? Are you saying that everyone who considers trading with people carefully examines the validity of ratings before deciding to trade? Are you saying it is likely that users whom the trust system was designed for most, new users are able to tell the difference between a real negative rating and a manufactured baseless one? Oh well shit, you manage. I am sure everything is great for you in mod land. I am sure that offers you no additional protection from this sort of harassment right? In that case since it is not a problem for you personally it must not be a problem for anyone right? You are totally avoiding the point and essentially saying the trust system doesn't matter. The point is the lack of accountability. The point is it is totally convenient for PROTECTED people such as yourself to brush this off because you don't have to worry about it in the slightest, and pretending it is a non-issue is a far easier solution for you personally seeing as it has no cost to you. The point is double standards, selective enforcement, and ambiguous ever changing unwritten rules. Essentially what you are saying is this place is a big fucking joke and no one should invest any time money or effort into it because some retards LAARPing Game of Thrones can take it all away at any time. If you think the internet has no capability to have real world repercussions on people, I am sorry but you are either a fucking moron or totally disingenuous. |
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So the IRS potentially kicking in your door is not a significant consequence? Everyone here likes to imagine this forum is just like a video game with no real world consequences. The fact is many people depend on this forum for income and this mob behavior can and does do damage to ones ability to trade here. This place is so rife with fraud building up a reputation is not an easy or quick task. It takes time, money, risk, and effort to build your reputation here just for it to be destroyed in an instant in retaliation for criticizing the wrong people. You poo poo at the idea and say people will just ignore invalid ratings and the like, but who actually takes the time to validate these ratings? Almost no one, and the ones who most need to are the least likely and the most populous. In effect this has serious repercussions on ones ability to solicit trade here among other real world consequences imposed by these control freaks.
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https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.76.6.661Socialism doesn't work 7% of the time. Do the poor people get the absolute best health care modern technology can possibly give, as soon as possible, money no object no matter if it costs $100mm?
I highly doubt it..
I live in Finland, as long if it's possible to provide, and necessary then yes. Also what the hell costs $100mm per person? Nothing. How necessary? Is the rich guy allowed to buy products or services that may not meet your definition of necessary? Like, if an Xray is recommended and will probably do, but the guy also wants a CAT scan and an MRI to be extra sure.. Can he pay extra for that? And also go to another doctor for a 2nd opinion? Wanting a scan is not how healthcare works. The experts determine what is needed and get a 2nd opinion if they aren't sure and only recommend what is needed. By experts you mean employees of the government? So what you are saying is under socialism you don't choose what kind of health care you get, the government does? Sounds wonderful. Tell me, did you eat lots of paint chips as a kid? |
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Socialism creates disincentives to work and also to maximize productivity when working. It fails every time it has been tried and each time it has been tried, the country’s people see lower standard of living and the state has had to use violent force to compel people to participate in the socialism.
Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people over the past 120 years.
Capitalism has killed more people than socialism. "The thing is most deaths of the last 600 years since neo liberalism and colonialism merged into a single destructive ideology is attributed to capitalism and the capitalist and elite political class need for profit and power. Yet its become so normalised that many wont link it to capitalism" "Just the distribution of resources, something that is a factor to add to the Communist death toll, is disregarded when addressing Capitalism. I wonder how many people die a year from not being able to afford basic necessities." I SEE! Now every death due to starvation is now a result of Capitalism! Maybe you can expand that net even further and blame Capitalism for the fact that we are not yet immortal. It is too bad we didn't discover how evil Capitalism was back in the days that humans were hunter gatherers, it could have saved so many lives! |
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This is a good sign. I am curious why Elwar would post at all and not make some kind of statement. I think he probably posted that bump because CSW recently got the bitcoin white paper copyrighted in the US. I am not sure where he is now, but I presume he won’t give an update until he believes he is in a country that will not extradite him back to Thailand. That is a reasonable assumption. I would think that he would play it safe and not even log in again until he is though. If he is not in a safe place yet logging in or posting is probably not a good idea. |
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Wow, his hiatus lasted an entire week this time. I guess he feels there is sufficient distraction now from his behavior for him to return unnoticed. P.S. Why is it this thread belongs buried in Reputation, but Vod's op is special enough to stay in Meta? |
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To be honest, I am not getting the exact point on their additional terms for second week.
It was pretty simple... In the first week, a lot of users had just signed up to the various forums, added the signature to their account and then never actually used any of the forums... so, no "free" signature advertising for blender.io as there were no posts  So they added in the additional requirement that if you wanted stakes from having forum signatures, you had to post at least 10 messages on each of the forums... otherwise no forum stakes. This seems to have been too much work (I guess no one wanted to spam 10 messages on 10 different forums) for most people... so only two people qualified for forum stakes... blenderio then apparently decided that wasn't enough free advertising and just called the whole thing off. If two did actually complete the requirements and they did in fact renege on the actual give away I would in this case support a negative rating. If there is evidence of this I would like to see it. I believe they did complete requirements. The task wording here implies that you must have a 'Member' rank to do the Bitcointalk tasks, and there was no global rank restriction. rat03gopoh's twitter account @FaranisaRatu did retweet and like their tweets (linked is one example). For Quickseller's statement about how future weeks were not guaranteed, this post does very very strongly imply that another iPhone X would be given away: Good luck and we will see who will be the owner of another iPhone X after the New Year!  This is the main reason I've switched to a neutral for now: The first round started Dec 21, and ended on the 28th29th. The second round would have ended on Jan 5, which is 7 days later. There were two entries posted on Jan 5, one at 12:34 AM and the other at 9:54 PM. I didn't see anything in their thread announcing the specific cutoff times for entries. Technically speaking, they could argue the cutoff was before anyone completed their entry. However they do imply that there were entries before the cutoff point: (archive)No, I meant the ones who didn't make 10 posts won't be counted as a participants. Unfortunately, there were too few ppl for 2nd week and none of them completed requirements. Stay tuned for the next event, it will be as big as this one, if not even bigger.
So I'm leaning towards negative trust being deserved at this point. Again, it appears this is your interpretation, I have not seen evidence to back this up. Please see my previous statement: The requirements were somewhat ambiguous. I am not sure I would support a negative rating, though I agree this could potentially be interpreted as shady behavior. I would make this suggestion for a solution. The terms should first be clarified, then the people who participated but did not meet the post requirement should have their stakes rolled over to the next drawing after meeting the new clarified requirements (assuming the program is still active). This IMO is an equitable solution for all parties and is mutually restorative for all.
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This is a good sign. I am curious why Elwar would post at all and not make some kind of statement.
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I was just thinking that some clown music that plays every time you log into the forum would be a nice feature. It would go well with the atmosphere here and would do a good job translating the reputability of this forum across all language barriers. This tune would be my first pick. This is also a close runner up. |
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@TECSHARE if you want to talk about nutildah create thread about nutildah. Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I an't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it. Finally someone who stands up and speaks the truth against these dickheads which have made this forum a total mess. Thumbs up for standing up and speaking against this communist lobby of bullshit propaganda which has taken this forum to the worst possible level yet because it will become worse as long as someone who is clearly accused and accepted extortion like Lauda , TMAN and others are on DT not giving a fuck about the forum but only thinking about their personal gains. I can confidently say that they already started to look back TECSHARE's history to find something to remove from DT network and also to tag. I hope this fella stay safe. I doubt that but it can happen, TECSHARE reputation is in Computer Hardware he is a great seller and has contributed much more to the forum than these dickheads who are in power now, if they do this will only show that this is indeed a gang and will go miles in length to discredit everyone who disagrees with them. I have been speaking out about this kind of behavior for a long time. They have actively been harassing me for years and use any opportunity to take retribution for my insolence of speaking out about them. The only reason this has become so openly discussed now is because they increasingly get more extreme and blatant about their abusive behavior as time passes and their victims begin collecting and speaking out. |
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@TECSHARE if you want to talk about nutildah create thread about nutildah. Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I can't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it. |
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I’ve received numerous messages of support from high ranked accounts. This has actually given me confidence that I do a good job around here & must be appreciated (a little).
I won’t be such a pussy in future & will follow the rule book.
Thanks to all who have messaged, it means a lot.
bill, I don’t hold grudges. I get why you posted my PM, it’s pissed me off a bit but if I wasn’t so soft you wouldn’t have had anything to post to embarrass me.
CH, Thule etc - Go fuck yourselves.
Thinking for yourself and having your own opinions doesn't make you a pussy. Being subservient because you fear the repercussions of having your own opinions makes you a pussy. |
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Can you name something that I've done against you Hhampuz? You've been awfully quiet in Meta for awhile now, but after going from trusting me to distrusting me without any explanation - here you are making it seem like you've been being harassed by me. Either your post is irrelevant or it's fan-fiction, can you help me pick which?
I don't lump people together in attempts to stir up drama. When I say "the ones calling "them" out" it necessarily doesn't mean you. I've decided not to disclose why I Add/Remove/Exclude people from my trust list as someone will always be angry and send you nasty messages. Quite convenient you never need to explain yourself because feels. And why exactly would he have to explain himself? Maybe because publicly he insinuated I was sending him nasty messages and privately we had perfectly friendly conversations and his public and private persona are inconsistent. Hey there. Just wanted to maybe give you a friendly warning, this whole VOD thing is going to have fallout, he went way too far. I would advise you to disassociate yourself from him and this event. Again this is just a friendly suggestion as I see it this is going to go south pretty quick. If you would like I can talk to TeeGumes we have done trades in the past. If you were to first make a statement to the fact disassociating from this it would probably help me go a long way toward arguing for him to remove the rating. I don't agree with him leaving it, but I don't think what VOD did was at all acceptable either. Feel free to let me know what you think about all of this, or not if you want. Have a good one.
Hey Tecshare, Thank you for reaching out, hope you are enjoying this BTC rally too! I understand that me leaving merit to that thread may have been stupid and my judgement was clouded by my disliking of og. There is no way for me to remove merit but even if it were, as the thread stands right now, I'm not sure I would remove it. No need to argue on my behalf with teegumes, although it is much appreciated! I'll take his neg and wear it as a reminder to always think twice before taking any action here which can also be a good thing. After beeing down and feeling shit for a couple of months I've come back now and have found joy in the small things, doing much better and will just try and be hard at work. Again, thank you for reaching out, I appreciate it  . Hope you are doing ok, too! WOW. MUCH NASTY! SO ANGER! |
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Can you name something that I've done against you Hhampuz? You've been awfully quiet in Meta for awhile now, but after going from trusting me to distrusting me without any explanation - here you are making it seem like you've been being harassed by me. Either your post is irrelevant or it's fan-fiction, can you help me pick which?
I don't lump people together in attempts to stir up drama. When I say "the ones calling "them" out" it necessarily doesn't mean you. I've decided not to disclose why I Add/Remove/Exclude people from my trust list as someone will always be angry and send you nasty messages. Quite convenient you never need to explain yourself because feels. |
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