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More detail about account,please pay attention :

[Suspicious link removed]irk@yandex.ru, azimovairina2@yandex.ru and frostdan@hmamail.com and ecurrency info as below. Be more careful, please!
PM USD account number: U13709770
Bitcoin wallet add. is 1ADZYGY6sRMzKWRqNkf2P3aArSpX5UZ2u
Payee_Account is U13709770
IP: 80.79.114.99

Happy New Year 2017!

No way Lauda would leave negative feedback to this powerful guys. Lauda was a coward and corrupted woman. She will only leave negative feedbacks to accounts who can't hit him back.

An example of this her negative feedback to memorydealer. She was the one who first leave negative to memorydealer. But once memorydealer neg rep her back she remove her negative feedback in instant.


@KWH Don't worry about your thread about selling account. Lauda would never leave negative feedback to guys like you.

It is weird that someone hacked your account, created a thread entitled AUCTION - Member account, attempted to sell an account in your possession, then lost your password.

A few more examples of account sellers that Lauda/Lutpin has failed to leave negative trust for:

achow101
blazed
mexxer-2
KWH
shorena
zazarb
redsn0w
yahoo62278
grtthegreat

EAL (buyer, not a seller)

I would like to know why Lauda/Lutpin are not going to leave any kind of a negative trust rating on any of the above.

KloseT
MrShieet
RepeGang
BitGambler
XCube
UrkelBit
CoinDestroyer
CryptoL0rd
Ragnarr
Brutel
The Imp
Mihails
Swaggity
Shafiq
Braavos
Drupada
IronBank
WealthyBit
Coineror
Dracaris
Lurai
LiteCoinWow
Sarpedon
Balbinus
Aravindi
Veeti
Yehoshua

Femmi
Cornelou
Levente
Gebahard
Neirin
Venteslav
Remigo
Kroshna
Pharamond
Sylvestre
Spurius
Strawman15
Cenhelm
Orvokki
Gerulf



You get all of them

Auction starts at: 0.01BTC
Min bid increment: 0.001BTC

Auction ends January 5th 12:49 AM
And prolonges for 1 hour after each reply (if time is up)

Yes they have began to allow it. They've even partnered with Coinbase. Coinbase actually has a Paypal account.... You can look it up.

If you are not interested in having electronic devices then how about having my paypal account that is having around 1100$ approx.

Care to elaborate?
I'd really like these a!-holes away from this forum if possible.

My laptop

My hard disk.

hi there. found humbertin19 on bitsler. spanish chat. Go there now.

So, I shouldn't pay?


Seems here is corrupts already with the way you guys sound here



So, if am buying Bitcoin, won't I pay?

How am I to reverse payment when confirmed by you already?
You know how online transfer work at all?

I got red trust without cause.
They have not proof. This not fair.
This is his opinion only.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1732739

I have proof that i'm not scammer.

How can clear red trust?
Who can help me?

Maybe I should leave counter ratings then. After all, its just my opinion that these ratings should not be given. I prefer discussions where both sides are open to change their mind. It seems they almost never happen here.

Today, after almost one month of absence (forced) online I am back and I noticed that messages were sent and post with my account, now came under the possession of my account and I do not know how and when it has been violated. Who received contacts in November December from my account it is false.

I wonder whether it is possible to put the second password security to prevent these things.

Defining of some Terms

I think its easier to understand if we use a slightly different terminology, so I'll be doing so in my explanation here. I'll start off by defining a few things. The system as a whole I will continue to call the Trust System. I will refer to comments left by someone through the Trust System as Feedback. There are two parts to the Trust System. There is Feedback and Trust. Feedback as I just defined, is the comments you leave on someone else's trust page. Trust, is when you decide you value someone's opinion as an extension of your own, and add them to your trust list.

Feedback is what most people are talking about when talking about the Trust System. It is exactly as many people have said, it is your personal opinion. Default trust starts at branch 0, these are people who Theymos have personally added to start the branches of the trust system. They were picked based on years of showing good judgement on related matters. When one of those people sees another user who's opinion they trust; someone they believe will leave accurate feedback for others, they are added to that user's Trust List. That is the difference between Trust and Feedback. Trusting someone is in a sense giving another user an extension to speak for you when they give someone feedback.

Trust is more strictly watched over by members of the Default Trust group. If I Trust someone who is making bad calls when leaving feedback, that means I am giving them license to poorly represent me. On the other hand, the feedback they leave for others is representative of their own personal beliefs. If I don't agree with their personal beliefs, I wouldn't trust them.


Now that that wall of text explanation defining the difference between Trust and Feedback is done, I'll move onto responding to your post quoted above. I bolded the points that I'm addressing.

Response to quote

1) As I just mentioned, your "Trust Rating" - Feedback should always be your opinion. Whether or not people agree with your opinion decides whether or not people choose to take your rating seriously, or disregard it as worthless. If you gave someone negative feedback for being German, anyone who disagreed would disregard your feedback. If someone on Default Trust was leaving feedback because someone was German, they most likely wouldn't stay on the list long, because that is generally viewed as a poor indicator of trustworthiness. To expand, if I Trusted someone who left Feedback because someone was German, I would stop Trusting them, as that isn't my personal view.

2) Staff members have no real impact on trust. Trust isn't moderated, and staff member feedback isn't more heavily weighted than anyone else's.

The reason the Trust System is set up like it is, is because its far more flexible to have all of the rules set by the community. What is acceptable to leave positive/negative feedback for is constantly being discussed, and changed as situations change. For example, at the start of the trust system, it wasn't necessarily common that people involved in Ponzis would get negative trust. As the community opinion has changed, that has become a more prominent thing. Morals are constantly changing. What is acceptable and not in a community changes very quickly with an evolving technology at its center. In a week, there might be a new thing that no one had ever heard of that needs a judgement. A few years ago, if you said mining to someone, they wouldn't know what you are talking about. A few years later, cloud mining became an entirely different thing. Next we are going to have atmosphere mining, and a new trust ruling will need to be made for that.

The Trust System is without rules, so that eventually the system can branch out into something that approaches decentralization (for a lack of a better term, though decentralization isn't quite right). Right now Default Trust layer 0, 1, 2, and 3 are most prominent. In time, branches 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 etc will be far more widespread, and to the point where the people on layer 0, 1, 2 etc can relax and let branches 6, 7, and 8 regulate themselves. Lets say there are 5 people on layer 0. Each picks 5 people to represent them. 25 people on layer 1, they each pick 5 people to represent them, so on and so on. By layer 5, we have 15625 people enforcing the community set rules. If someone on layer 5 abuses the system, the person on layer 4 deals with it. So instead of having 5 people setting the rules, we have thousands who can represent Bitcointalk's community.


Sorry that was such a long read: TLDR;

1) Feedback is not the same as trust, feedback is one's own opinion, trust is an extension of one person trusting the feedback of another user and allowing them to speak for that person.

2) "Trust ratings" - Feedback is always opinions, if you don't like someone's opinions, disregard it.

3) Trust and Feedback aren't moderated by the Staff here, Staff opinion's are exactly the same weight as other users.

4) The "rules" of the Trust System are set by community opinion. There are no official rules set by Theymos so its easier to adapt to new things. Theymos' personal opinions also mean less this way.

5) The trust system branches out so those at the center at Default Trust depth 0,1,2, etc become less important. They just need to find people that they would like to represent their opinions. Then the thousands of members at branch 5, 6, 7, 8 will be more in charge of distributing feedback that people can use as a baseline of trustworthiness.

Ofcourse i understand that 1BTC is too much we can start from 0,1 or 0,2 BTC for 1-2 weeks

https://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=fk24gb90
User Id: 520285
Name: March
Posts: 126
Activity: 126 (Full Member)
Potential Activity: 392 (Potential Sr. Member)
Weeks to Next Potential Rank: 13
Potential Activity to next Potential Rank: 88
SMAS Blacklisted: No
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.04662000

Bid : 0.015BTC
Inc : 0.001BTC
Bin : 0.02BTC

Please PM me for more details, thank you all.

I don't know how to do that haha. Anyway you can help me out? I'll continue searching in the mean time.

Zepher, KWH:

He has paid back the bitcoin that I have sent to him.

Closing this thread because it has been resolved.
Just a complete waste of time on my part.
Will be more careful with whom I deal with in the future and not let someone play this BS game that was being played with someone's money.