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1721  Economy / Lending / Re: Small business loan on: October 28, 2014, 06:50:46 PM
I'm seeking a loan for 30 days for our new startup company. We are ordering components and packaging this week and are seeking a whopping 3-5 BTC. In return for the length of the loan, I will repay .4/.5 BTC If interested, please reply with your preferred terms / collateral needs. Once an agreement has been made, the potential lender will receive all information on both me personally, and the business. The business does have an ecommerce site up and holds 6 patents in the U.S. so that you can be assured of our validity.

Also, would anyone know of people / places for larger long term BTC funding? Ie. $10,000 US and up over the duration of 6 months? Thanks in advance.

Cart before the horse. You need to post much more than this to be considered. You forgot one very important component: Collateral.
1722  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Buy small btc from October 28 to October 30 (<.2) on: October 28, 2014, 03:54:11 AM
I want to buy some btc, smaller 0.2, during October 28 to October 30 or until full 1 BTC

I can pay through Paypal. Thanks for your attention!

Paypal will be a hard sell since it is easily reversible.
1723  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 27, 2014, 01:38:33 AM
I gave you a positive because you seem very nice and honest.

KWH is very nice and honest.  I trust him.   Smiley


I think you were maybe nice and honest to at one point but perhaps over time with all the bad people and so many scams it has gotten to you.



We see scam attempts daily here and usually several per day and we see the same arguments along with them. If someone fits that profile we do our best to warn others as best we can.
Vod is on my Trust list as I do trust him.

The difference is though you were nice about it and have explained things and didn't leave negative feedback right away.



I have good days and bad like everyone.
How about a compromise? Edit your OP to a loan here, omit BTCjam and offer collateral. Maybe a few coins and use escrow? An account this old may even be considered.
1724  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 27, 2014, 01:35:10 AM
I think it shows trusted.

I won't abuse my feedback privilege though.

I gave you a positive because you seem very nice and honest.



No, no change for me. You are in my Untrusted list and I am using default Trust.

Well that's weird because when I click your trust link it shows me as a trusted feedback and it made your number go up one?


Understanding the Trust system can be a pain. Look under your Trust settings and see if you are on that long list.
1725  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 27, 2014, 01:33:56 AM
I gave you a positive because you seem very nice and honest.

KWH is very nice and honest.  I trust him.   Smiley


I think you were maybe nice and honest to at one point but perhaps over time with all the bad people and so many scams it has gotten to you.



We see scam attempts daily here and usually several per day and we see the same arguments along with them. If someone fits that profile we do our best to warn others as best we can.
Vod is on my Trust list as I do trust him.
1726  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 27, 2014, 01:27:06 AM
I think it shows trusted.

I won't abuse my feedback privilege though.

I gave you a positive because you seem very nice and honest.



No, no change for me. You are in my Untrusted list and I am using default Trust.
1727  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 27, 2014, 01:21:38 AM
Feedback good or bad will show up for you but unless you are on someone's Trust list, not to others.
1728  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 27, 2014, 01:17:08 AM
It also sucks now everytime I post I see that big red negative 6 next to my name.

How can that VOD guy leave me a negative 6? Why not like a negative 1?



He is on the Default Trust list.

How can I find out if I am on the trust list? I think I might be.

I don't go throwing around feedback as easily as him and I will refrain from leaving him negative feedback for now until I get this sorted.

Truthfully though that guy needs to be banned as he is threatening me and leaving me and others bad feedback for no reason.

He may have been useful here at some point but perhaps with so many dishonest people he has just gotten so cynical he can longer be objective.





Leave me a negative and we will see.

No I don't want to leave you negative feedback for no reason. That would be wrong.

I also didn't buy this name or this account. This is my account since 2011 and maybe that can be verified with Bitcointalk and the moderators somehow?



You can delete it as easily as you left it.
You may be able to verify the original ownership through a wallet address.
1729  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 27, 2014, 01:13:10 AM
It also sucks now everytime I post I see that big red negative 6 next to my name.

How can that VOD guy leave me a negative 6? Why not like a negative 1?



He is on the Default Trust list.

How can I find out if I am on the trust list? I think I might be.

I don't go throwing around feedback as easily as him and I will refrain from leaving him negative feedback for now until I get this sorted.

Truthfully though that guy needs to be banned as he is threatening me and leaving me and others bad feedback for no reason.

He may have been useful here at some point but perhaps with so many dishonest people he has just gotten so cynical he can longer be objective.





Leave me a negative and we will see.
1730  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 27, 2014, 01:06:54 AM
Not true. Not sure why my past posts aren't showing up but here they are.

Anything you throw at me I will respond to. I don't feel I should apologize for lack of collateral. I guess it is a misunderstanding still that you keep saying I need some and I keep saying I don't and I have given the reason why.

You started posting two months ago.   I obviously don't count the single post you made three years ago.  You don't have much invested into this account.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19534;sa=showPosts;start=40

You don't want to give collateral?  That's your right.  I don't trust you for not giving collateral.  That's my right.

All the feedback is saying is that I don't trust you.  People are free to make their own decisions on what to do.

If you feel this is just a misunderstanding, then I will give you a single chance to cancel your BTCJam loan request immediately.  Then my issue with you pretty much goes away.  But right now you are attempting to collect 0.5 btc that I don't think you will pay back.  

I am not going to be canceling anything and I won't be bullied into it either.

I already contacted a moderator about you with the negatives you are throwing around and will take further action if necessary.

If it is one thing I have learned about message boards there's always that one and I think I have found it with you.

Like I said research me and whatever but don't be making false claims about me.





Maybe you don't realize it but you could have bought this account and are using another person's posts/accounts for credibility. We see this quite often and is a common tactic on the internet. BTCjam, well, you could have used another person's credentials to make the account. Identity theft is rampant in the internet world and any chance for personal gain ensures a plethora of the same.
Offering collateral really resolves many issues as most do not care what you do with the funds as long as you repay on time. Collateral ensures this will happen.
As far as contacting a mod, they will tell you: "Trust is not moderated, work it out with the one that left it."
1731  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 26, 2014, 11:43:36 PM
It also sucks now everytime I post I see that big red negative 6 next to my name.

How can that VOD guy leave me a negative 6? Why not like a negative 1?



He is on the Default Trust list.
1732  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 26, 2014, 11:20:54 PM
The silver would be sold to cover the loan if I didn't repay.

Don't believe it.  You've made sure to verify as little info as possible on btcjam, now you are coming here and insulting this community with such bullshit.

You are untrustworthy.


Well no offense but I have been in this community a few days longer than you according to our registration dates.

I don't have as many posts but I also don;t go around accusing people of scams for no reason.

I am very trustworthy and if you bothered to actually take the time to search my name you would see that.




It all boils down to collateral. The vast majority of those gambling or cloud rental requests you posted about go unfilled, in case you have not noticed. Either put up adequate collateral which can be held by a trusted third party, or close this thread.

I asked in another thread if it would be ok to post a BTCjam loan here and was told yes. I don't think any BTCjam loans require collateral which makes that both good and bad.

In another situation if it was a larger loan I would have no problem sending collateral, as I have said with this loan since it is so small and the collateral would be actual silver coins it would not make sense to send these coins back and forth through the mail because of the weight and amount of postage that would be involved.

I simply posted a listing that I had on BTCjam and thought maybe someone here would be interested.

I am not a scammer or a dishonest person and hopefully you can tell that just from a simple google search of my username MRBONG411

I wish that VOD guy would research more before just leaving negative feedback for people. What he did to me now with my feedback was just insane.

I mean what was my master plan here? Register this account back in 2011 when bitcoins were just $2 each and also register the user name MRBONG411 all over the internet years ago on various forums and message boards and websites just so I could ask for a half a bitcoin loan now and take off to a private island?

I mean really?

I won't be closing this thread because I have just as much of a right to post here as anyone else and I have not broken any rules.





You may not have broken any rules but to steer your loan to another site where there is no recourse if default occurs is not generally well received, as you found out. Akin to someone plastering yard sale posters on a billboard you paid for.
1733  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle on: October 26, 2014, 11:01:18 PM
I also think global warming is a swindle

Back when I was in high school in the mid 70's, "We're entering the next ice age." was all the rage. But later, after a few years of a warming trend, some vice president had the neat idea of starting an exchange to trade carbon emissions, thus a heavy polluter in some Eastern European factor can trade his shares to some Amish dude in Ohio having a lesser pollution footprint. Genius!

Ref.: http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/11/03/blood-and-gore-making-a-killing-on-anti-carbon-investment-hype/

As with nearly everything; follow the money.
Manbearpig FTW!
1734  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 26, 2014, 10:57:14 PM
The silver would be sold to cover the loan if I didn't repay.

Don't believe it.  You've made sure to verify as little info as possible on btcjam, now you are coming here and insulting this community with such bullshit.

You are untrustworthy.


Well no offense but I have been in this community a few days longer than you according to our registration dates.

I don't have as many posts but I also don;t go around accusing people of scams for no reason.

I am very trustworthy and if you bothered to actually take the time to search my name you would see that.




It all boils down to collateral. The vast majority of those gambling or cloud rental requests you posted about go unfilled, in case you have not noticed. Either put up adequate collateral which can be held by a trusted third party, or close this thread.
1735  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Jam loans on: October 26, 2014, 07:16:54 PM
All I ever hear about BTCJAM is scams...how can you advertise "you dont have to worry about being scammed"

Because my income info is verified. I even have an "A" rating. I'm not sure how much more legit it can get.

Too legit to quit? The info submitted was verified, but was it actually the borrowers info?
1736  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC-E USD codes for my Paypal on: October 26, 2014, 12:45:16 PM
Good question. Please offer the way to gain trust. I don't think it's a problem as you say.
Trust - is a result of long term cooperation. We have to start from something.
I'm ready to send funds first, and accept hold, that's why I wrote about negative feedbacks.

P.S. Excuse me my English. It's not my native language.


You are willing to wait 180 days for your codes? You may not think Paypal is a problem but I believe there are at least a few that would disagree.
1737  Other / Meta / Re: Need help from user in DefaultTrust list. Please put -ve trust! on: October 26, 2014, 12:11:48 PM
Please put a negative trust on this user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=389644 . Reference : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=828319.msg9334087#msg9334087 . I don't know whether he will send fake PMs again but it would be good if a -ve trust feedback is put by a DF user. Thanks! Smiley

   ~~MZ~~

Make sure you report the PMs.
1738  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 1 BTC 1 Days on: October 25, 2014, 05:38:36 PM
But I do not know what I have to offer as collateral

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0

Very first thread in the Loans section. Did you not read anything before posting?
1739  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 1 BTC 1 Days on: October 25, 2014, 03:13:29 PM
Hi I need a loan and I know that because I am a new user you will not believe me but I'm not sure how to provide a collateral and prove that I am not lying.plz help me Sad

Supply the proper collateral and you are virtually guaranteed a loan. Easy.
1740  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for a Loan on: October 25, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
Do you have a valid collateral ? I think it is so difficult to seek a loan without a collateral.

Yeah, it is already had enough since that asshole gave me negative Trust without even knowing me and shit *facepalm*

He knows you are trying to scam - what else does he need to know?

Yeah, im trying to scam, he doesnt even knows me.. sure

I don't need to know you to see you fit a pattern. Had you read the threads from the link I sent you, instead of firing back with snarky remarks, you would know this. You can't tell me you read them in all of 4 minutes it took you to reply to a previous post. I would suggest offering adequate collateral or lock this thread and try a new account.

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