Hi there
I was wondering how I can get a loan without a collateral. I heard providing ID is possible ? I'm looking for $100 worth of bitcoin load in a time span of two weeks.

Looking to buy .68 BTC for Paypal. I'm a verified member of Paypal as well. Thank you.

If paypal accounts are ACTUALLY hacked, there is a high chance the account will be limited. After all, Paypal can check the IP history. You're telling me you can claim you got hacked when 1. your ip is the same and 2. your account is not limited

I am absolutely positive paypal can check your IP to see if a hacking actually

Never have I said that paypal can't be charged back when sent as a gift. I'm saying I would not be able to chargeback because I'm not using my credit card. You can't open a dispute when a payment is sent as a gift, did you know that?

Look if you're not interested you don't have to reply anymore. I'd rather not spend more of my time arguing about this.

I'm sending as a gift, you can't exactly charge back that without a credit card (but I'm using paypal balance).

Um, no I'm just looking for a simple paypal btc transaction thanks

Hi I have a verified paypal, have rep on steam, and am looking to buy $44 dollars worth of bitcoins. If you are a trusted seller I will go first.


Edit: I'm marked as a scammer by Vod for some reason. I messaged him about it but he didn't respond. I've actually never done any trades here before

So i assume you sent funds as a gift so you can't charge back? Anyway it's not a good idea at all to use PP for digital currencies...sorry to hear that.

Small figure...was not concerned about such a minuscule amount.

LOGS -

[5:16:57 PM] Marcchernandez: What's up
[5:16:59 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ill tell u when to go
[5:17:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ready here in a minute i think
[5:17:09 PM] Albert Gonzalez: partner said home, signed into messenger
[5:17:11 PM] Albert Gonzalez: then logged
[5:17:13 PM] Albert Gonzalez: waiting for him to relog in
[5:17:19 PM] Albert Gonzalez: then u can go on lunch and we can complete this
[5:18:51 PM] Marcchernandez: Ok
[5:19:00 PM] Marcchernandez: How many moneypaks total
[5:19:09 PM] Albert Gonzalez: they will be 500~ codes
[5:21:34 PM] Marcchernandez: Ok
[5:21:41 PM] Albert Gonzalez: so you hav
[5:21:43 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 2000~ in btc now
[5:21:45 PM] Albert Gonzalez: in hot wallet?
[5:21:48 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 2k flat worth
[5:25:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: go on lunch
[5:25:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lets go
[5:28:13 PM] Albert Gonzalez: Whenever you are ready, go on lunch...got your codes lock and loaded marcc.
[5:30:40 PM] Marcchernandez: Yeah. I have 11btc in my hot wallet right now
[5:32:19 PM] Marcchernandez: So 2k is around 6.2?
[5:32:28 PM] Albert Gonzalez: yeah
[5:32:31 PM] Albert Gonzalez: we will do 500 increments
[5:32:36 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ill buy your full hot wallet
[5:33:39 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok 500 worth of bitcoin
[5:33:41 PM] Albert Gonzalez: pm me
[5:33:42 PM] Albert Gonzalez: can u?
[5:33:50 PM] Marcchernandez: Seriously? Ill only sell
[5:33:52 PM] Albert Gonzalez: say doing $500 trade (my btc for your mp) now
[5:33:55 PM] Marcchernandez: You 7max lol
[5:34:00 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok, ill take the 7 then
[5:34:02 PM] Albert Gonzalez: pm me
[5:34:12 PM] Marcchernandez: Pref with receipts
[5:34:12 PM] Albert Gonzalez: Doing $500 trade with you now (my btc for your mp)
[5:34:17 PM] Albert Gonzalez: no receipt on this batch
[5:34:22 PM] Albert Gonzalez: if u want to do receipt, got to wait
[5:34:25 PM] Albert Gonzalez: but i need at least 2k now
[5:34:30 PM] Albert Gonzalez: then the rest of the coin after
[5:34:31 PM] Marcchernandez: Ah okay, hold on
[5:34:33 PM] Albert Gonzalez: kk pm me
[5:37:10 PM] Albert Gonzalez: sooner the better, my partner is in rush; sorry for rush on you
[5:37:48 PM] Marcchernandez: Hold on. Give me 5 min
[5:37:50 PM] Albert Gonzalez: kk sure
[5:45:08 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ?
[5:47:07 PM] Albert Gonzalez: there?
[5:48:29 PM] Albert Gonzalez: marcc
[5:48:45 PM] Marcchernandez: Okay
[5:48:49 PM] Marcchernandez: Sorry
[5:48:51 PM] Albert Gonzalez: its ok
[5:48:54 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ready?
[5:49:13 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i have vanilla for u
[5:49:14 PM] Albert Gonzalez: per ur request
[5:50:17 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i guess msg me when ur here, dunno where u keep going
[5:52:09 PM] Marcchernandez: Okay I'm locking my office door
[5:52:15 PM] Marcchernandez: So no one can bug me lol
[5:52:32 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lool okay
[5:52:34 PM] Albert Gonzalez: sure thing
[5:52:34 PM] Marcchernandez: I can just take the mp bro
[5:52:40 PM] Albert Gonzalez: can u not do the vanilla?
[5:52:42 PM] Albert Gonzalez: if not, i got mp too
[5:52:45 PM] Albert Gonzalez: but would prefer vanilla
[5:52:45 PM] Albert Gonzalez: up 2 u
[5:52:57 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ur call
[5:52:57 PM] Marcchernandez: Wait so you want vanilla?
[5:53:02 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i can give you vanilla
[5:53:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: or moneypak
[5:53:08 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i prefer to give u vanilla
[5:53:12 PM] Albert Gonzalez: which do you want
[5:53:12 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lol
[5:53:17 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i want your BTC
[5:53:24 PM] Albert Gonzalez: You inject some morphine or something?
[5:53:27 PM] Albert Gonzalez: Only kidding, lol
[5:54:54 PM] Marcchernandez: What?
[5:54:56 PM] Marcchernandez: 697 said
[5:55:08 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 697?
[5:55:08 PM] Marcchernandez: You said you prefer mp lol
[5:55:20 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i got a batch of 10k vanilla
[5:55:22 PM] Albert Gonzalez: so want to offload some
[5:55:24 PM] Albert Gonzalez: but whatever you want
[5:55:27 PM] Albert Gonzalez: do you want vanilla or mp?
[5:55:39 PM] Marcchernandez: I'll just take MP lol
[5:55:42 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok sure
[5:55:47 PM] Albert Gonzalez: how fast will this be?
[5:55:51 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ur response seems to be slow lol
[5:56:31 PM] Marcchernandez: Now it will be wuick
[5:56:36 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok ready for 500$ code?
[5:56:39 PM] Marcchernandez: I told everyone not to but me lol
[5:56:43 PM] Marcchernandez: Bug*
[5:56:54 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ready for first code? $500
[5:57:32 PM] Marcchernandez: Yeag
[5:57:36 PM] Albert Gonzalez: XXX XXX XXXX XXXX <---- code given
[5:57:37 PM] Albert Gonzalez: $500
[6:00:14 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 1.5464 owed to me
[6:00:16 PM] Albert Gonzalez: tell me when redeemed
[6:01:21 PM] Marcchernandez: Okay
[6:01:29 PM] Albert Gonzalez: redeemed?
[6:03:22 PM] Albert Gonzalez: marcc, need to speed process
[6:05:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: need a response, partner is on stand-by waiting
[6:05:23 PM] Marcchernandez: Redeemed
[6:05:28 PM] Albert Gonzalez: kk
[6:05:36 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 1.299 to ---> (wallet address)
0.2474 to ---> xxx (wallet address)
[6:05:41 PM] Albert Gonzalez: make sure u double check addresses
[6:05:46 PM] Marcchernandez: Okay
[6:08:44 PM] Albert Gonzalez: sent?
[6:09:20 PM] Marcchernandez: Let's do 2 at a time
[6:09:22 PM] Marcchernandez: So it's quicker
[6:09:28 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok send this 1
[6:09:30 PM] Albert Gonzalez: then will send 2 more
[6:09:59 PM] Albert Gonzalez: when i send next 2, be quicker
[6:10:02 PM] Albert Gonzalez: sent??
[6:11:03 PM] Albert Gonzalez: marcc, why is the responses so slow?
[6:12:05 PM] Marcchernandez: Because these guys keep knocking I'm so sorry man
[6:12:14 PM] Albert Gonzalez: is btc sent???
[6:12:25 PM] Marcchernandez: Yeh
[6:12:39 PM] Albert Gonzalez: its not
[6:12:39 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lol
[6:12:46 PM] Albert Gonzalez: did u really just scam for 500$?
[6:13:21 PM] Albert Gonzalez: Wow, didn't know people scam still for pennies
[6:14:05 PM] Albert Gonzalez: nothing to say?
[6:15:12 PM] Albert Gonzalez: hello???
[6:15:58 PM] Albert Gonzalez: you account was really worth only 500 to scam?
[6:15:58 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lol
[6:16:02 PM] Albert Gonzalez: leaving negative feedback now
[6:16:19 PM] Marcchernandez: Oh shit
[6:16:22 PM] Marcchernandez: Sorry msn
[6:16:26 PM] Marcchernandez: Man hold on
[6:16:44 PM] Albert Gonzalez: what the hell is going on?
[6:18:21 PM] Albert Gonzalez: marcc, im leaving negative feedback in 10 mins if no btc is sent
[6:23:34 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lol wow
[6:23:35 PM] Albert Gonzalez: for 500
[6:25:09 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ur negative feedback has been left
[6:25:14 PM] Albert Gonzalez: enjoy hope it was worth it

Escrow doesn't protect the seller of BTC. It protects the buyer / the person sending the paypal payment. If you're going to sell for paypal, why not use escrow? It's not like them sending first will prevent a chargeback.

Better off staying away from paypal unless both parties can be trusted. 99% of the people selling BTC to new accounts for paypal are going to scam by not sending the BTC after receiving payment.

I have sent to LYCAN 50 USD via paypal 3 days ago.
Still no codes from him.

If its an escrow I've used in the past it just makes me feel more confident that I'll receive my BTC (or Collateral) at the end of the loan.

You could do that if you want but I get to pick the escrow.

I do know how,but  I can send as for friend and can't claim paypal to dispute

Hey, my name's Cainy. I've been a member here for a while but haven't been too active in recent months. I've decided to come back and start up an escrow service to get myself involved again.

Obviously since I'm new to this I don't have anyone to vouch for my services but a few people will be able to confirm I am a genuine member and I've written a couple posts about programming and such in the past. I did a reasonably comprehensive guide to CPU mining DogeCoins when they first came about after I found the process a little confusing myself to begin with, for example.


Down to business:

To begin with I will charge no fees in order to establish my legitimacy. This is only an introductory offer and I intend to charge 1% for standard transactions once I get started.

Any security requests such as multi-sig or offline wallets, I am happy to oblige to.


Please feel free to comment with any questions/requests. If I escrow for you I'd appreciate some feedback here too to let people know. Tips are also welcome, my tipping address is 1CainyGGK2yeA7Niwps8z3xj3n4iUdkHXW.

I also deal with DogeCoin and a few other coins, feel free to ask!


Have a nice day!

^^ Particularly since they implemented the extended reversal, which is significantly longer than the previous length of time, although I can't remember off the top of my head the exact number of days.

I buying 50 USD  worth BTC via paypal (veriefed)at bitstamp USD prices.
available in small portions.

I can go first with members with more trust than me but others will have to go first or use escrow.

Thanks