I don't know if I am supposed to show the posts on here if they were deleted. Yet, I can't find a single thing wrong with them.
Where did you post these? I dont see any relevance to bitcoin. Posting off topic replies or answering to off topic replies is a common reason for the removal of posts. Meta is the correct section for that. If it is not bitcoin related, shouldn't it be in Off Topic? |
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I am waiting for my bank account to verify with coinbase but I don't want to wait. Anyone interested in selling a single coin and being payed with paypal?
Thanks!
Could also pay with a mastercard if you have the capability to take it! (Bank debit card)
A must read for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0 |
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As for account farming, there are no limits to the accounts you can own as far as I know. While account selling is discouraged, it is allowed.
Spidy, you are being cordial and logical and I respect that. KWH, This is the point: discourage account selling. There seems to be no good way to do that other than leave negative trust. Am I missing something? Do YOU think I should remove the negative? (ACCTSeller, no offense but you have a clear bias on this topic as you seem to be in the business of selling accounts.) While I am not for the buying/selling of accounts, it is allowed. If you want to leave a negative for this practice you also need to leave negatives for the buying/selling of LBC, Paypal, Ebay, Facebook, Twitter and other accounts bought/sold for various reasons. A huge task indeed. IMO, a negative is not warranted here. I don't know if I agree. buying a Twitter account seems more legit. PayPal? shady. likely stolen. and bct? that directly impacts THIS forum , is higher probability it will used to scam HERE, and again, if not used for scamming, probably will be used for selfish sig campagin (same person getting paid multiple times)... to me I still think it's generally bad. What is done with these accounts? To further the illusion people are who they claim. Linked to LBC and such to help in their validation? Why are they validating their LBC and other accounts? Possibly to prove their ID? Bought accounts to verify an ID that is false so when someone defaults or scams there is nothing to lead to their real ID. There are those that buy accounts to deceive others into believing they are someone else, all for personal gain. Buying/selling these accounts is generally bad and leads to more paranoia on a forum that is paranoid to begin with. But if you are going to mark one you gotta mark em all. mostly agree but since I don't have time to find and mark them all, why not do the obvious ones I come across. am giving spidy the benefit of the doubt here and buying into his claim that 'he didn't know there was anything wrong with it' and has no intentions of scamming. still, at the least, I think it is selfish profiteering that doesn't help the community. I unfortunately expect a similar controversy may arise in the future when someone else complains for a similar reason. Sure it will but you would have to get the community to agree to make this practice a negative offense and I don't see that happening anytime soon. But as of now, IMO, leaving a negative for this action isn't warranted as the practice is allowed. |
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As for account farming, there are no limits to the accounts you can own as far as I know. While account selling is discouraged, it is allowed.
Spidy, you are being cordial and logical and I respect that. KWH, This is the point: discourage account selling. There seems to be no good way to do that other than leave negative trust. Am I missing something? Do YOU think I should remove the negative? (ACCTSeller, no offense but you have a clear bias on this topic as you seem to be in the business of selling accounts.) While I am not for the buying/selling of accounts, it is allowed. If you want to leave a negative for this practice you also need to leave negatives for the buying/selling of LBC, Paypal, Ebay, Facebook, Twitter and other accounts bought/sold for various reasons. A huge task indeed. IMO, a negative is not warranted here. I don't know if I agree. buying a Twitter account seems more legit. PayPal? shady. likely stolen. and bct? that directly impacts THIS forum , is higher probability it will used to scam HERE, and again, if not used for scamming, probably will be used for selfish sig campagin (same person getting paid multiple times)... to me I still think it's generally bad. What is done with these accounts? To further the illusion people are who they claim. Linked to LBC and such to help in their validation? Why are they validating their LBC and other accounts? Possibly to prove their ID? Bought accounts to verify an ID that is false so when someone defaults or scams there is nothing to lead to their real ID. There are those that buy accounts to deceive others into believing they are someone else, all for personal gain. Buying/selling these accounts is generally bad and leads to more paranoia on a forum that is paranoid to begin with. But if you are going to mark one you gotta mark em all. |
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As for account farming, there are no limits to the accounts you can own as far as I know. While account selling is discouraged, it is allowed.
Spidy, you are being cordial and logical and I respect that. KWH, This is the point: discourage account selling. There seems to be no good way to do that other than leave negative trust. Am I missing something? Do YOU think I should remove the negative? (ACCTSeller, no offense but you have a clear bias on this topic as you seem to be in the business of selling accounts.) While I am not for the buying/selling of accounts, it is allowed. If you want to leave a negative for this practice you also need to leave negatives for the buying/selling of LBC, Paypal, Ebay, Facebook, Twitter and other accounts bought/sold for various reasons. A huge task indeed. IMO, a negative is not warranted here. |
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You're kidding, right?  This really makes a joke of your accusation. As for account farming, there are no limits to the accounts you can own as far as I know. While account selling is discouraged, it is allowed. A cruel joke, indeed. Check out my trust ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=446446), all I said is true. All I ask for is one cent for being kicked when I was down. One cent. That is not unreasonable. Plus, I'm not demanding money from him. It is a request. and the request for one cent can be dropped if he refuses to remove the negative trust and apologize! That's how negotiations work!... right?You may as well forget this "request", it won't happen. EDIT: If you are this easily offended, the internet and specifically this forum may not be for you. |
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Is giving negative trust to further an agenda (noble as it may seem) mostly unrelated to preventing scams an abuse of the trust system?Before we get started, I want to say that agenda is not a bad word. It has no negative conotation in this context. TL;DR: jonald_fyookball unfairly gave me negative trust for "account farming". The IntroThat is what I want to discuss today. Hello, I am BlackSpidy. Some of you might recongnize me from the Wall Observer thread as the guy that makes some remarks on the price and throws a joke and/or prediction in once in a while. I will provide a signed message (with a shitty format, sorry, I will change to the more largely used P[something] message next time I need to sign a message) at the end of this post. The BackgroundAnyways, I got a bit of drama to share with anyone willing to sit and read through the backstory of this dispute. I lost my charger, my laptop had run out of charge and I needed the bitcoins held within. I decided to get a loan for a charger, 0.1 BTC, overshooting the price a bit in case the shipping was too high. Then jonald_fyookball simply responds "account farming" and gives me negative trust for that same reason. Someone responded that its sad to see assholes use their accounts as collateral and never pay their loans back (I'm paraphrasing, I'll be doing that a bit). Thinking that is what "account farming" was, I PM'ed jonald_fyookball, asking if he would remove the negative trust once I successfully completed my loan. He simply replied "I dont aprove of account farming". I solved the money issue my own way, getting a BTC0.01 loan for another reason. The ArgumentAnother trusted member came in to say that there is nothing wrong with selling accounts, as he did it himself. jonald_fyookball responded "what you did is totally different!" (I call bullshit). He then provided his reasons: -Scammers might buy accounts. (I should not be held responsable if other people use something I sold in an unethical or illegal manner. Knife salepeople are not held accountable for killings via stabbing and I should not be held accountable for hypothetical future scammers) -It's unfair for signature participants that someone is getting paid more than once. (none of my accounts are participants in signature campaigns I can prove that for my main, Blackspidy account and another account, if the lender I got some BTC from decides to back me up on that) -It's unfair for companies that run signature campaigns. (same as previous point, he has no proof whatsoever I am on any signature campaigns. He has no proof that I participate in any signature campaign, making this point meaningless speculation!) -It encourages others to farm accounts. (so!? Why am I being called untrustworthy because of what other people might do [which I think is an honest and non-scammy thing] when I'm doing something completely honest and non-scammy!?) -It makes the ranking sistem meaningless. (isnt it already kind of meaningless? You registered your account in 2013 and posted at least one comment a day since... does the fact I make it a bit more meaningless make me not trustworthy!?) -It encourages spammy low value posts. (I'm being held accountable because of what other people might do, got it, what I dont get is: How does that make me not trustworthy!?) -It doesnt add value to the community. (that is completely subjective, and say it with me: How does that make me not trustworthy!?) So far, he has provided absolutely no reason (other than his sorry excuses trying to make account farming into a form of scam) to give me negative trust. I have not scammed anyone, I have not tried to scam anyone, I have not aided in a scam, I will complete my loan without delay on September 1st. Hence, he abused the trust system, giving me bad rep to further his agenda. Speaking of agenda... The AgendaI undestand where he's coming from. He wants scammers to not be able to get their hands on accounts with trust. I agree, and I am not acting against that goal. None of my accounts (other than my main, apparently) will ever be used for cryptocurrency-related business or signature campaings. He wants Bitcointalk to be home to quality discussion. So do I, I do my best to inject some intelligent discussion into the opinions I express in this forum. We all should. But that is not what the trust feature is for. The trust feature is there to help see who is trustworthy or not, and none of what I've done makes me untrustworthy. The SolutionI now formally request that jonald_fyookball remove the negative reputation on my account and provide me 0.00005BTC as compensation for kicking me when I was down, disrespecting me and being one of the reasons a loan was cancelled. I also request that he provide a public apology via a post in Meta that contains a signed message. I believe that is a reasonable compensation for the stress he caused me and hours he cost me. The Relevant Threadshttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1145172.0, original my loan request. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1144224.0, my successful loan request. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1144347.0, slightly highjacked thread where I and jonald_fyookball discussed his possible abuse of the trust system. The Signed Mesage[Message]The account posting this August 7th of 2015, "FishBones80" is an alt for the account "Blackspidy", created in order to discuss possible trust abuse by "jonald_fyookball". I sign this message with the address 1bHPh41CeaBqPqT8zqzjgwcXmyKL67khe, as seen on the following meta post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.1160[/Message]
[Signature]IN5HDqqHq/AaDcB7WTsNJU5FWEESjyrypbmaXoRxmRyqLDgVfFJgMj2J31nxutvDedmrJsAevcHS5ZD6KB6Zfmw=[/Signature] I leave that to you. PS: I apologize for the length of the text and any spelling errors (my spellscheck isnt working). You're kidding, right? This really makes a joke of your accusation. As for account farming, there are no limits to the accounts you can own as far as I know. While account selling is discouraged, it is allowed. |
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You emailed 3 hours ago, then again an hour ago. You're being unrealistic and impatient.
I'm not being impatient. I'm asking how long so I will know. I don't like waiting if I don't know how long will I wait. LOL of the day right here!  Wait is all you can do. |
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Negative trust should absolutely not be removed when an account is sold. Engaging in this practice would take away the financial incentive not to scam as a scammer could scam, or try to scam and then lose zero value on their account when they go to sell it.
Negative trust shouldn't be allowed to be given for such petty reasons such as a disagreement especially when the person giving it offers no proof that what he believes is trueThe trust system is not moderated. If you disagree with any negative rating that you have then you should try to discuss the situation with the person who left you the negative rating. Trying to potentially fake a sale via a loan is not going to help your cause though. I have no idea why people lie or only tell part of the truth. Do you think I am incapable of keeping a PM? Do you not read anything but your own posts? Lets examine your claim here: Offering short term (less than one month) for amounts totaling no greater than 0.2 BTC. Must have collateral and trust. Offer may terminate at any time.
Don't forget to have a trusted escrow hold all collateral. You failed to mention you PMed me awhile back asking me to remove a negative from your 07/02/2015 thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1107510.msg11777576#msg11777576Your PM feigning innocence and my reply on 07/25. Can you please remove your negative trust rating? I was new and didn't know how it all worked here but hasn't had any other issue since then and don't want to create New account
You still have not corrected your errors here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1107510.0This is where your negative stems from. No reply until 08/02, your PM and my reply: That is not grounds for negative trust. No one has said anything in there that says PayPal sent as a gift from money in the PayPal balance is reversible.
It's everywhere you just don't want to see it. Rating stands. See Post #20 from your thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1107510.0No clue what FUD or that person is. Where has what I said been disproven. It hadn't been. No one here has said how a PayPal gift from the balance can be reversed because it can't be said
I did some searches on google and found things which are very unclear from the point of view of reverse transaction , some say that they do have reverse stuff if you call the credit card issuer and do a charge back/Payment reversal. Have a look to the thread:https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Refunds-and-cancellations/Gift-payments-reversible/td-p/462611This has been discussed a lot of times here, there's no need to go again trough it. One way to charge back anything on PayPal is to claim the account was compromised. PayPal can always be charged back, there's no way to guarantee it won't, therefore it all depends on trust and reputation and OP doesn't have any. OP if you want to take a loan then offer valid collateral, if you want to buy BTC then don't use PayPal or other reversible method, simple as that. Let's look at another outburst: Reason? I'm sending money to family or friends
This option cant charge back!+ i have verified bussines account!
Quite the wrong bit of information here.
From your own PM you justify your erroneous post because no one else has said anything different. I blocked your PMs because you don't want to discuss anything, you just want to argue; truth be damned. I explained the Paypal stuff in your thread but you won't hear of it. Most here know the workings of Paypal and how easy it is for a scammer to get your money. If we lived in a perfect world where everyone was honest, Paypal would be wonderful for buying/selling BTC but sadly, we live in a scamming, plotting and scheming society where the scammers constantly change methods to free us from our coin. |
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Will use account as collateral if I can . It has ability to be a member I believe with just a few posts This just until Friday Will pay back .02
I can give you the loan you are asking if you can provide other collateral and not this one that you are using. Trust rating of this account doesn't look good. (Trust: -2: -1 / +0) Have no others but I think the person causing my red may remove it in the case of default and you took over accounti dont think the negative trust feedback will be removed incase you default, some users in the past tried to fake a change of ownership just to get the -ve trust removed but failed No. |
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Removed all drivers,
hard shutdown computer
re-install driver...
keeps moving to port section..
"Silicon labs cp210x USB to UART Bridge (Com4)"
still failing on it doesn't know device
You can try to uninstall the drivers, and remove the actual driver from the system then reinstall. Via the device manager?? I have it running now on my second hard drive... This "silicon labs" bullshit is messing up my stuff.. Do I have to regedit.. god I hope not. I didn't have to, just removed from DM and it had an option to completely remove (uninstall). |
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Removed all drivers,
hard shutdown computer
re-install driver...
keeps moving to port section..
"Silicon labs cp210x USB to UART Bridge (Com4)"
still failing on it doesn't know device
You can try to uninstall the drivers, and remove the actual driver from the system then reinstall. |
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It keeps fucking moving it to the fucking ports.. it's.. how do I stop the POS from thinking it's a fucking serial connection?
Are you seeing this before or after the Zadig installation? It just keeps auto installing something.... :S Plug 1 in and run the Zadig driver. Check DM and confirm the miner is there under USB devices. It keeps jumping to the serial port..... Every time I run the program Are you going to the Options menu and select List All Devices? Then reinstall? Mine show as: CP2102 USB to UART Bridge Controller. |
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It keeps fucking moving it to the fucking ports.. it's.. how do I stop the POS from thinking it's a fucking serial connection?
Are you seeing this before or after the Zadig installation? It just keeps auto installing something.... :S Plug 1 in and run the Zadig driver. Check DM and confirm the miner is there under USB devices. |
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It keeps fucking moving it to the fucking ports.. it's.. how do I stop the POS from thinking it's a fucking serial connection?
Are you seeing this before or after the Zadig installation? |
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No, but when they were not working, they did not show in DM. Once they show in DM, they should work.
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I've been mining with an Rbox for some time.. I just formated my computer.. now after I installed the driver via zadig it's giving me some crazy ass errors... "Icarus detect <8.2> failed to initialise <incorrect device?> anyone know wtf this means? I followed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cATJVLb1P1A&list=UUcqRbsp96-Z3BAu_oSG-TCA worked every time except now...... Had the same issue. I unplugged all miners but 1, reinstalled the Zadig drivers and one at a time, plugged the devices back into the PC. Look in your Device Manager to confirm they are all there. If not, go through the procedure again, one at a time. Sometimes I have to unplug power, wait a few seconds then plug back in. Usually they start again with in 1-3 minutes. EDIT: Hat tip to dogie |
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If i send money as friend or family and do not mention that I buy bitcoins how can i proof to paypal that I bought bitcoins. So in this case I can buy enything with paypal open dipute and say that i bought bitcoins and i thin a case. This is not logical.
I am not scamer for firs time I can send money as to friend or family with paypal for small amount so i will not have any paypal protection and can't do a reffund. So how can i scam if i can't open a dispute in paypal and get reffund and sending money first?  ? Lock this thread if you have no reputation to show (ebay, localbitcoins, etc.) |
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please respect my topic people who can help me I just have to postearme
Deal, if you respect that most of us are not fools. If you made an account just to ask for a loan, you will look very shady in doing so. Why not use your 2 year old account? It must be more credible that a brand new one. |
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