@KWH: Was not addressed to you, was it on the part of my reply to you? Was for Joel. What I am referring to was the difference of LEGAL + FROWNED UPON vs. ILLEGAL.

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@Joel: Uhm why would you need a "supreme body in the States?" No state controls how this forum works.

Regardless, the legal and frowned upon statement is entirely different from illegal. Like your question here "Who said it's 'legal?" You were stating that it was illegal to trade, sell, hold as collateral, or transfer ownership of BCT Accounts. Please point me to a document which said that holding BCT Accounts as collateral is illegal. Isn't it true you're here just to spam? Does your butt hurt? You just got hurt from my statement that's why you replied here again.

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Again why are we all still discussing? We all agree to disagree. End of story. Peace out.

Show me which signature campaign I am enrolled with?

To add: Scams are not removed and why is that? Does it make them "legal"? Maybe you need some of this education you post of?

Do you know what's the difference with legal+frowned upon and illegal? Go educate yourself. I bet you're just here for the purpose of your signature campaign.

@KWH and Lauda: As I said there is nothing to discuss here. We all agreed to disagree.

@Lauda: I get why you denied my request and already accepted your answer before in another thread. No point again in discussing it again here. It's all over.

Just lock this. The purpose of this thread has been realized and no further discussion regarding its purpose is necessary.

Nonsense and lack of proof.

@KWH: Here we go again with BCT accounts. First of it's legal. Second, there is no immediately reliable collateral available for lenders to take. I don't want to discuss these anymore as there is no point. This has been heavily debated for quite so long and I think we all have agreed to disagree.

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@bL4nkcode: It's done, nothing I could do about it now. I lost 0.005 here without recourse as collateral is also lost. Charge to experience yet again. This venture, lending, has proven to be a charity than a business and I am probably will look into shutting it down.

Anyway, since we don't have anything else to discuss here. I would recommend just locking the thread.

First of all, I would like to thank you bL4nkcode for lending him and not posting it publicly nor did you tag his account with a neutral trust.  This allowed him to scam you and me. You privately gave him a loan, hence there was no record of your loan anywhere and because of this I lost money and I also lost the collateral because it was tagged with red and made worthless. 

On to this scam accusation, I reviewed the collateral I am holding (hackahammer), the messages between you two were there and saw the conversation regarding the loan between you two. Indeed you loaned him 0.005BTC and I loaned him 0.005BTC as well in my thread here. As I have a policy that the transactions, contents and private messages of the account I hold as collateral will be private, I do not read their private messages.

After you (bl4nkcode) and I sent the BTC he cashed both of it to this BTC address 3PRuTkHi7tPQJCdJWGgv8t986yjWNeJfoY.

Hackahammer Received Funds to 112UA3vd6419UQ2v6ca7Ptyirr6hzz538S

1. bL4nkcode send to Hackahammer
2. Lone Shark Send to Hackahammer


Cashed it out to 3PRuTkHi7tPQJCdJWGgv8t986yjWNeJfoY.

1. Cashing out bL4nkcode's money
2. Cashing out Lone Shark's money

He previously used the address 3PRuTkHi7tPQJCdJWGgv8t986yjWNeJfoY and got a loan from condoras here.^[1]

End note: I got scammed. Nothing to do about it anymore. I did my homework. I background checked the borrower, googled everything about the person and still got burnt.

For the record and to caution everybody, reasons why I got scammed:

1. Did not check the transaction history of the btc address. (If the btc address has extensive history tho, this is not possible).
2. Did not check the private messages of collateral before sending loan. (If it has extensive hisntory (again) too much trouble to check and it's against my policy)
3. Someone loaned the person without publicly posting the loan agreement and transactions. (It is fine to give a private loan if you were friends or you trust each other, but if you don't know the guy you should have posted it. But regardless, friends or not, posting the loan agreement is for the public to know.
4. The account was not tagged. (There was really no signs that the person had a previous loan. How will lenders check this if there was not even a neutral trust on the account about a loan).
5. Took BTC account as collateral.*


[1] Thanks jaceefrost for pointing out the possible alt of the scammer.

So if my car gets stolen and the thief robs people with my car, I have to pay back those people? Haha you guys are crazy.

I am offering trusted Bitcoin Escrow Services:
I will also offer escrow in other cryptocurrencies including Zcash, Monero, Litecoin, Ethereum, DASH and Shadowcash upon request.

I am providing these services for ZERO fees for a period of time for feedback here on the services. Please PM me to setup any escrow deal.

Some Ground Rules:
- I will consider the escrow of anything in principle but reserve the right to decline if I feel that it may be illegal.
- I will only refund to an address if you can sign a message from the sending address.
- If you want a long term escrow or a complicated one that requires some work then I may negotiate a fee.
- Zero fees on all 'normal' escrows

The below Bitcoin address is the escrow address for all Bitcoin escrows:
BitGo multiSig Bitcoin address w/ keys held in cold storage
3KW2x8NVcQ15JpgYVgMfPMeA4ZqDCmpYzz

PM should include:
Seller: John Doe
Buyer: John Doe
Amount (BTC): x BTC
Release address (BTC): 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Conditions of sale: 1,2,3,4

Include seller, buyer and me in the PM.

Being a Hero member here doesn't mean anything except for some extra styling allowed on the signature space.
Also moderators don't remove scam threads unless its against the forum rules.

I will send a PM to DT members in a few days if this thread is still unnoticed.

I would strongly suggest you read the whole thread and you see I link to another thread where I signed 3 addresses. Do you have a request of an address that I sign?

Just a heads up , OP changed his password recently :



Stib.co is also not that known and the fact that they don't use an SSL certification while there is login details and escrow involved makes it even weirder.

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I don't see what made you choose this website but If you are honest and you want to do some transactions here then using an escrow like OgNasty or Devthedev should be more then fine for you.

I think crunck needs to reply on this accusation, at least refund the btc, or deliver the coins.

I have considered creating a thread about this for a long time now. I am really tired of seeing users who haven't even read the sticky threads create a loan request thread.

Wouldn't it be better if there was a requirement to read the sticky threads before one can post/create a thread in Lending? It would definitely reduce the number of loans requests without any collateral's.

I am a long time member of the community. I had projects on the crypto scene, some went well, some not really.

Looking for a small loan to help cover digital expenses on a new project I am building.

I can repay in 3 weeks or so, max. As for collateral I can mail physical goods or temporarily give away my account.

Thanks.

hi there
beware of this scammer Woultries cards
he told me i open a bank account for you in Europe and it has Wire transfer capability with Iban.
and i will mail to you the Physical master cards.
it never happened and answer my pm.
i told my freind add his skypeid and he answerd him but when understand he is from me stopped answering.
beware of that son of bitch scammer

No problem here, and i apologise!
I have been pulled out of country, and will address this when i am back home, im staging through Malta at present , I appreciate someone has lost out here but there are bigger things

I can do perfect English but why do that? Most of the time those who speak/write in 99+% Gobbledigook dont get red trust. Justice, spammers? My posts are way better than some, always on topic. Why red trust? Why Why Why? To let me learn my lesson, well do it on everyone else all at the same time. You are not a campaign manager to be removing people from their rightful claims. There should be chain of command, you should let campaign managers do their job.

I am preparing to go cloud mining with Hashflare. I will use them for awhile and then get mining hardware myself. I am planning on renting 7.5 terahashes ($900) (BTC1.23076923) of mining power. It only makes since that the collateral is the Hashflare account itself. According to coinwarz mining calculator I will make enough back to pay off a loan. Please respond for more information so we can negotiate a deal. Thanks!http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=7500&p=0.00&pc=0.34&pf=0.00&d=281800917193.19600000&r=12.50000000&er=738.62990000&hc=900

I made my last post on 25 November and I last logged in yesterday. I think a few hours before this hack.
 
It's easy for you to say pay back. That is 1.05BTC I need to send for no fault of my own.
The victim need to take major responsibility here. He didn't use escrow. He didn't pay heed to the warning on my profile: "email address changed recently", he didn't verify keybase.io which was visible on my bitcointalk profile.
If Bitcointalk.org was not using this crappy forum software with no two-factor verification for accounts, we would all be safer.

I'm really hurt for the member's loss. And I'm not saying no to helping him out as much as I can but I would need more sensible views from the bitcointalk community in this regard.

Ahmedjadoon Legendary Member profile link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=141466

I send him 1.5 Bitcoins but he is not sending me 1206$ in Neteller https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=141466

I have no 1 year to wait him. I am waiting him 2 weeks now