hi,
urgent need 0.3btc, can pay with PP as for friend or familie(don''t worry about chargeback)
I look forward to your proposals
With Paypal, you always have the worry of a charge back. Friends and Family won't save your bacon. |
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How can I make a collateral? I do not know how to
Collateral needs to be something greater than the value of the loan you are asking for. It needs to be easily sent and held in escrow for the duration of loan. Usually ALT coins are used and they fit the requirements. |
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LOL, from .1 to .01
Mate, I need as soon as possible. No one understands... We understand you are new, very few posts, no Trust, no track record and wanting a loan. If you default, there is no way to track you down. there is no incentive for you to repay. This account was made just to ask for a loan. We understand very well you are high risk at best. Put up some usable collateral, Paypal account won't cut it, and you may get your loan. |
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Hello,
I just need 0.1 BTC for 2 Hours.
I need to send it to my friend who really need it and he will send me back within 2 hours. I know my posts are not that much but you can believe me, I will add you on skype and can give you all my contact information for security.
Thank you very much for looking here.
Regards,
Phyzic.
What are you offering for collateral? Hm, I can send you my Paypal E:mail / password. Basically i have about 2 BTC but i sent it to my friend, so in the meantime i have to pay 0.1 to a guy, Within 2 hours i will pay back your 0.1 for sure. I'm fairly certain you could reclaim your account easily and your contact information won't do me any good (assuming it is real) in case you default. You really need something greater than the loan request that can be sent easily and held by escrow for those 2 hours. |
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I'm a student in METU and I ran out of money this month, i need just 40-50 $ for those two weeks. I can give back 0.165 btc after two weeks (%10), or we can negotiate. Anyone wants a guarantee can pm me.
How are you securing this loan? |
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Hello,
I just need 0.1 BTC for 2 Hours.
I need to send it to my friend who really need it and he will send me back within 2 hours. I know my posts are not that much but you can believe me, I will add you on skype and can give you all my contact information for security.
Thank you very much for looking here.
Regards,
Phyzic.
What are you offering for collateral? |
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Just an update on this thread the matter is in the hands of lawyers as Gmaxwell has chosen to not try to resolve the matter and also explain to us all why he been abusing other members on this forum with countless FAKE IDS etc.... The lawyer that has looked close at the matter and all the posts etc and the many fine examples of this MOD actions on this forum in these FAKE IDS that can be linked together quite clearly is looking froward to going this MOD and this forum... Have a nice day this is the last time I will be making a comment re this matter as it NOW in the hands of lawyers and legal action is under way  Against the MOD in question as well as a number of P2 users. Also a tip to the others in this thread trying to justify the actions of the MOD in question YOU MAY WANT to do some research before posting any further on the matter as a friendly tip.... As it been all one way traffic from the MOD and the P2 users and has been for months on countless posts and the abuse threats of violence etc they have been throwing around at other members of this forum not only related to myself or the BAN pool. But also other pools and users and business etc.... I for one await the outcome as I believe you are full of BS. How many others have claimed legal action in the past 3 months alone and then silence? Proof is going to be very hard to obtain and costly to even try. Good luck though, I hope you find a cure for your butt hurt! |
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I noticed that this user had neg-rep'd me earlier - even though I have had no personal contact with him nor have I ever done any trading with him. I pm'd the member asking for an explanation, and received four very confused replies in quick succession - all of which made hardly any sense at all. From what I could make out, he's under the impression that the whole world & it's solar system is against him for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with me.
I have done many 100's worth of BTC trades with members of this forum, as well as providing a Amazon BTC payment service over the 2 years I have been a member here - with not a single unhappy customer & a 100% trust rate, all done without escrow - based only on trust, until this strange character came along. It is damaging to myself & my business here, something needs to be done about members like him.
I have not replied to any of his confused PM's, and have contacted gmaxwell to see if there is any way to resolve the situation.
Trust is not moderated so the only recourse is to work it out with the person that left it. |
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You are too fixated on Trust = trade when it is not. Had it been for trade only, wouldn't it be called Trade instead of Trust? Feedback can and should be left to warn others of a shady individual or an outstanding character in another. "Would you Trust JoeBlow." To only use Trust for trades is absurd as it would stop the hundreds of warnings from others that were not scammed by a person that has scammed in the past and is likely to scam again. No method is perfect and can also be misused. Besides, you have left Trust for others that were not trade only so I guess it's only an issue unless you are doing it, right? Copy and paste feedback doesn't count! I would suggest you work with gmaxwell to remove his feedback as it's the only way it will get removed. Move past your fixation.  |
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The system views negative ratings as saying, "this user scammed me and no one should trust him ever." People don't need to view negative ratings this way, and I don't think that it's dishonest to give someone negative trust even if you weren't scammed, but that's how the system views it. There probably should be a neutral or less strong negative rating type, but such a thing doesn't exist now. The best thing you can do at the moment to achieve that sort of effect is create another account that isn't trusted by anyone and use that.
With this in mind, I think that it is correct for someone to be labeled as high-risk if they receive many positive ratings for only one month and then they start getting scam accusations. This pattern is very common for scammers: build up your reputation with a few good trades and then start scamming people.
I added a trust system to the marketplace sections. When you're logged in, you'll now see something like this next to Marketplace posts: Trust: 1: -0 / +12(3) The first number is the user's trust score calculated based on how consistently they've received positive feedback. Probably no one will get a score above 0 until the system has been around for at least a month. The second number is the number of reported scams. The third number increases with the number of positive reports, as does the fourth number in parenthesis, though the fourth number is more resistant to abuse. This text changes color depending on the score. Users with a negative score (attainable through scamming) get a red warning attached to their posts. These scores are taken from your trust network. They are not global scores. You can edit your trust network here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trustIf your trust depth is set to 2 (the default), you will trust feedback by people you trust, people they trust, and people they trust. I might change the default in the future; we'll see how this works. Your trust list is public. On feedback pages, you can leave trade feedback. There are no rules for this, but here are some guidelines: - List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score. - Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts. - Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it. - "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting. - It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating. If your trust list is totally empty, you trust "DefaultTrust", which includes some trustworthy people that I'll select. But if you add anyone to your trust list, even if they don't trust anyone, DefaultTrust will no longer be considered part of your trust list. In the near future I'll add these same ratings to PMs. Tell me if you see any bugs. I didn't test this much yet. |
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I will go first with trusted traders, i will send it as a gift. Thanks.
Paypal is risky, gift or not. |
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Looking forward to buy up to 0.2 BTC with Paypal.
Please post here or send me a private message.
Willing to go first since I'm not trusted here.
You going first offers no security for a charge back. |
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Of course! Have another beer and turkey leg, eh? |
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This is setup to try and help the community. What about your outstanding loan with Bitcoins101 has that been repaid yet? .this guy tried lend from me and tried to explain that his defaulted loan was repaid and this should be take in to account when making decision about new loan. my suggestion is to leave users on list even when they repaid. WHY? Because new lender have better view about person he might deal with. He did default in first place so there is risk he might default again. just my two satoshi.. Latest PM from likl3sfuhjh: No, YOU caused your own problems by breaking your agreement. It took you a lot longer "For less then 2 Weeks". I don't care how you justify it to yourself, your actions caused your problems, don't blame others for that. Secondly, That's why these deals are supposed to be transparent, so scammers have a harder time getting away with things and the honest people can be seen as such. Public post on a public forum, it is anyone's business that cares to read. How do you think I knew you were in default? I was reading your PM's?  People refuse to mind their own business on this forum. We did buisness in PM and people now look at this thread negatively. . Does this sound like a Trustworthy individual? He still has an overdue loan. |
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Looking for 1 btc via paypal asap.
Thanks
Will be a hard sell due to Paypal's nature. You may want to explore other ways to buy. |
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I guess you taking so long to repay had absolutely nothing to do with it, am I right? Has everyone been repaid all that is owed by likl3sfuhjh? |
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I want to buy that small amount. If everything is ok, I'll buy more. Its just for trust issues. PM me.
Using Paypal for purchase of BTC incorporates a lot of trust issues. |
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Have you tried: localbitcoins.com
Thanks for your reply. I have. The only problem is I have to provide ID for the PayPal account which I don't have since it is stealth. You may be in for a rough ride as Paypal is reversible. |
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I have a little over $300 stuck in a stealth PayPal account. Is there any way I can get this out?
Skrill, BTC...anything would be fine. Just don't know how to get the funds out of the account.
Have you tried: localbitcoins.com |
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Give us some viable solutions instead of quoting the same thing over and over.
I told you already. Ban account selling. You banned kiddy porn right? Treat account selling like kiddie porn, knowing full well your users are going to trade it anyway. Porn can be traded in private and you wouldn't have a clue. Won't work as has been explained to death.Don't give me that crap it won't be effective. It will make it harder for people to buy and sell accounts if they can't use this forum as an advertisement platform to do so. Fallacy. Won't change a thing. Period.EDIT: Personal attacks do nothing for your credibility.
As you are defending abusers of the trust system, you are the last person who should be talking about credibility. You say it's meaningless, why do you even care? All your spittle spraying, rantings, crap shoveling and plain FUD have shot your credibility to hell, if you even had any. What's next, are you going to fling feces and hold your breath?I was interested in how you would credibly start a list of account buys and sells but I am no longer interested in anything you have to blather on about. |
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