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821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which of these betting Statements Do you Agree or Disagree With? on: March 03, 2024, 08:14:59 PM
Don't bet all your money on one bet because that can make your money lose all. Many people playing gambling using their money and expects to makes money from gambling. However, all of that reasons needs to avoids for all gamblers because they will loses their money and the worst thing that can happens is they will become addictions that can comes anytime. That's why all gamblers needs to holds themselves and not playing gambling every day to avoid losing their money.

Unfortunately, many gamblers don't remember about that and playing gambling excessively which makes them forget to using self-control to playing gambling. That's makes them using much money more than usual and losing that money.

I'm not going to say that using all the money on one bet will make someone lose, because obviously the possibility of winning is still there and maybe if they are lucky or lucky comes at the same time then they will be able to get a big win, but one of the reasons why we are prohibited from betting all the money on one session is because we prioritize risk management or mean minimizing the possibility of losing, in the sense that this prohibition leads to precautions that are better taken for safety, because obviously I think it's not easy to completely ignore emotions when you are in a big losing situation.

Yes that's right, unfortunately most gamblers don't think in that direction, or I mean don't think about what if they end up losing, because obviously the risk is losing all the budget they have. So of course this is the reason why we are always advised to make gambling as nothing more than an activity for entertainment only and along with always applying controls and limits when gambling, all for our own security and safety in the long run.
822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: your perception about gambling on: March 03, 2024, 05:11:07 PM
Why not promote responsible gaming instead of demonizing it? Gambling can bring fun, delight, and financial discipline, but it can also bring misery and loss. All gamblers are doomed is a harmful myth. It disregards personal responsibility and educated decision-making. Nigeria, like every country, faces societal attitudes and support systems that make gambling difficult

Healthy gambling requires transparency, limitations, and support. Change the blame discussion to one of understanding and support. Gambling itself isn't the problem; it's how people view it
That's right, gambling is not a problem, it all depends on people, how they perceive it and use it for themselves. With the same success we can say that driving a car is also very dangerous, but at the same time everyone understands that if you do not break the rules, if you do not exceed the speed, then most likely the this will not pose any danger to you, and If a driver exceeds the speed limit several times, he will greatly increase his chances of getting into an accident.


Well that's the main point, if basically you are able to drive a car well along with knowing how to brake in certain situations then I think there is little chance for you to experience things that are not wanted, just like in gambling which depends on the person who treats and responds to this gambling activity itself, if basically they have the right and proper understanding of gambling then I think there is little chance for you to end up with addiction and experience many problems as a result of the wrong approach to gambling.

But the problem is that most of the gamblers always drive over the speed limit, they always want to be at the forefront without knowing and thinking about the risk of possible accidents, and these are the gamblers who always overdo it because they have the wrong understanding of what gambling really is, they drive on the wrong road and also in the wrong way so that in the end it creates a lot of problems.
823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don’t play gambling with drugs or in half sleep on: March 03, 2024, 04:24:14 PM

However gambling is an activity that can stimulate the nerves in the brain to always want "more", meaning that it is very careless if someone decides to consume drugs or other drugs that can eliminate consciousness, because obviously the effect is as you said that it will greatly interfere with any decision making because consciousness is in trouble. This situation has great potential to trigger many new and bigger problems such as losing amounts that they didn't intend to allocate for gambling, and that's the effect of taking something that can lose consciousness, in the sense that you do it without a reasonable and rational mindset.

Honestly, I don't know what the reason is for them to consume drugs, alcohol or anything else that can lower their level of consciousness. I don't understand, because what should be done is the opposite, which is to avoid consuming things like that that can reduce consciousness because gambling is always about how good and how good you are at making decisions to avoid unwanted possibilities.

Gambling affects the thoughts of a gambler in multiple ways, taking other substances that controls the brain against our will isn't right. Psychologist in their work, mentioned that gambling contains same effect as drugs or alcohol, meaning that adding alcohol to gambling is very wrong and affects the brain a lot. That could be quite disappointing on the long run as the gambler may not stop doing it. Hence, anybody who is undergoing this trouble, could disappear from the sight of his loved ones, as he may not want to accept the reality. He'd be installing more alcohol upon his condition, to stay away from his mistakes, psychologically. Thereby, endangering his life to a more painful level, where he wouldn't make it out easily.

Yes, as I said before, to be honest, I really don't understand and don't understand the meaning and reasons for consuming illegal drugs, which in fact can eliminate the level of consciousness when they have started their gambling phase, of course, as you explained here, that is - this is not true and is very likely to have a worse impact on a gambler where making decisions without prior consideration is an action that they are very likely to do. Honestly, I don't see a good enough situation when someone consumes something that can lose consciousness, because even if you win, it is possible for you to take decisions that you are actually unable to account for, such as applying greed by placing a larger multiplier which in the end will be partly Most of the gamblers experience defeat when trying to implement greed.

If indeed they are still under the influence of the drug then perhaps they will not feel too disappointed about their loss but if the influence of the drug has worn off in the sense that they are already conscious then obviously I am sure that they will be surprised to see everyone run out, if indeed they are one of the gamblers who responsible enough then maybe yes they will be able to accept reality, but what is worrying is when they are not able to accept it and it is clear that things are out of their control they might do it as a form of frustration. Therefore, in my opinion, it is an unreasonable decision if you consume something that can make you lose consciousness when you want to gamble.
824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 03, 2024, 03:58:49 PM
All of that really wouldn't be a problem if your wife/husband basically had a formula for maintaining a balance to prevent unwanted things or situations, but for the most part, they can't do it, it's easier said than done and that's a fact. It is gambling that ultimately is likely to make a person experience rapid changes in many aspects, whether it is in terms of the allocation of money at stake or also in terms of changes in behavior and traits.

Even if you treat gambling reasonably and gamble in moderation at first, there is always the possibility of increasing interest, many people who enter this phase of change end up betting something that is far from "reasonable" or "unreasonable", And of course this is a situation that can interfere with your relationship with your partner in a family where the main problem will be in terms of "money", losing balance in terms of money especially caused by really bad habits such as gambling of course it can trigger new problems such as divorce, so I think this is a problem that is very possible.
That's right, sooner or later the habit of gambling can change a person character due to a simple factor, namely addiction. I think that even though financial balance in a household can be fulfilled, it is not enough to make a family relationship run harmoniously. What I mean by this is that gambling apart from spending money also takes up time, which should be spent with husband/wife and children, this will not happen. So avoiding gambling activities if you are married is indeed better, in order to maintain a peaceful household integrity.

We rarely see a wife experiencing an addiction to gambling, in most cases it is dominated by men. Even if there are maybe only a few women, but if these women have children then it is very fatal, because it will affect their interactions with children directly or indirectly. Therefore, I think it is better for husbands/wives who have a gambling habit to stop, because family values and goals can be lost due to this bad habit.

Yes because there is no word "stagnant" in the desire to gamble, meaning that change will always be something that may occur and be experienced by some people, one of the reasons why this can happen is because gambling is an activity that can stimulate the human brain and mind which in the end we usually call it an addiction where someone is already at a very high level of curiosity so that they cannot ignore the slightest time not to gamble. In addition, the victory in gambling is "money", logically everyone needs money, especially if the financial situation in a family is in a "concerning" phase, obviously it can increase a person's interest to be more crazy in gambling because he wants to realize something he always hopes for.

On the other hand, what you said is also true that the impact of gambling not only causes problems with money but also it can be very draining on your time that you should spend with your family. However, this is a fear that should have been thought of earlier, and if you are not married or single then yes, obviously a pretty good solution is to try as much as possible to stop gambling before you enter the household phase which basically you will have a big responsibility from the need factor that will not be tolerated.

For the problem of women, yes, I think we all agree that it is rare for women to be involved in gambling, I think one of the reasons is in terms of socialization where women usually spend more time at home with homework activities, while men, you probably already know how they are, they hang out more outside the home with a friendship environment which means it is very possible for a man to find new things as an influence of environmental factors, whether positive or negative and maybe one of them is gambling. The bottom line is that if you are married and one of your partners is gambling then I think you should immediately think of ways to stop it, that's the best preventive measure.
825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has this ever happened to you as a gambler? on: March 03, 2024, 03:35:49 PM
I think this is both. You need to be careful yourself only while gambling. Be it physical or virtual gambling, you need to always set a budget or balance for the gambling. Don’t gamble beyond this limit. Moreover gambling is all about game of luck, hence it’s alright to make losses. To be honest, I have always kept this thing in my mind while gambling, hence I have never landed in such a situation.
We should apply wise decision in any condition we find ourselves. I know it's never easy to make the right choice every single time. Gambling is not easy task to anticipated, I've come across gamblers that have lost themselves in the space due to gambling and making gigantic losses. There's this fact about gambler, when they're losing, they fumble and lose confidence while the ones winning always proves to be formidable and buoyant in the system, they're not holding any doubt because they're keen on printing money from the system.

One thing that can help you to really make wise decisions is when you look at and consider something rationally and sensibly, the question is whether you are able to maintain this level of awareness? if not then it will obviously be difficult, but if you are able to maintain awareness within yourself when you are in a certain situation, especially perhaps defeat, then I think it will not be too difficult for you to really choose the wisest and best decision in some situations.

Basically, in my opinion, if you have a healthy approach to gambling then maybe everything will go well, I understand that the problems that occur in gambling are problems that are quite difficult to overcome, one of which is addiction, but you won't experience problems. like that if you initially have a correct understanding about gambling and you will be able to have this when you always look at things rationally and not just from one side, as you said regarding people who end up going astray and experiencing big losses. , and I say that they are people who are too tempted by what is called winning in gambling, ignoring the possibility of risk in gambling is a very wrong mindset which ultimately leads themselves to a much worse situation, this is not about profit but more about balance because after all gambling is always risky.
826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling still pays regardless of our losses on: March 03, 2024, 02:37:25 PM
First is to understand that gambling always have a risk behind, next is about the amount that you are willing to let go, there are pro gambler who can really manage well and have  a decent outcome each time they place their bets and same with you I guess the amount that they will charge you just to have their prediction is pricy though there's no assurance that it can be a accurate prediction as there's no such words as that when you are dealing with gambling.

More on how will you set your limitations and how good you are in following that, as there's always a price when dealing inside gambling, more on self assessment and controls and how you anticipate the potential outcomes.

On the long run keep in mind that gambling never pays and you will have trouble dealing with continuous losing effort.These losing efforts are further emphasized when some of the reputable casinos go and change the RTP of their slot games,most of them call this as a normal maintenance work which in fact is nothing else except the change of the RTP and I am talking changing it for the worse as there may be specific cases where they have won a lot and they increase it a bit in favor of the players,in such case I am thinking that they decrease the RTP toward the players.

For sport betting no matter how good you are there is always the referee factor which can impact the game one way or another.

Yes, that means we can't say that anyone will never win at gambling, but unfortunately the problem is that there is absolutely no consistency in terms of winning, it will only happen occasionally and by "coincidence" which means of course in the long run it will end up happening. more detrimental because as we know that this is a business for casinos and it is also a fact that the percentage of losses is much greater than wins, it confirms that gambling is a lucky activity especially in slot games. Regarding the machine RTP percentage, maybe what you said is correct, that when many players managed to win at that time, the casino immediately made changes to the machine RTP percentage, specifically reducing the percentage of the game to make it worse.

I don't really know about this, but what I know about RTP is that the RTP percentage doesn't always matter. I've been to several online casinos, especially slot games, where when the RTP percentage in one of the games is above 95%, but when I tried the game it turned out that the spins looked very bad and all the balance in the account ran out in a short time, but there are also some casinos that do have quite accurate RTP percentages, but most of the casinos try to fool the gamblers through this RTP percentage because it is clear that there are also many gamblers which makes this RTP a reference for choosing games. On the other hand, I cannot say that sports betting is the best, because it still cannot be denied that cheating is always possible to ultimately make the game one-sided and one of them may be the referee factor.
827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How your feels? on: March 03, 2024, 02:16:27 PM
It's wonderful that you see gambling as a sort of fun rather than a source of revenue or a means of making money. It's all too easy to get caught up in the excitement of the game and chase losses, so your strategy of creating a budget and gambling in moderation is smart. I think your attitude of not caring if you lose the money you set aside for gambling is also a really healthy way to look at it. If you're having fun and not risking more money than you can afford to lose, I believe you're doing it correctly.
In fact, it is foolish to see gambling as a source of income and a means of earning because those who have chosen gambling as a source of income and means of earning are the ones who have suffered the most and ruined their lives with gambling addiction. Gambling is essentially a part of entertainment and gambling should never be seen as a means of earning. It is wise to always budget a small amount of income on a gambling platform as those who spend all of their income quickly ruin their lives and end up in a lot of debt. That's why gambling should be treated as entertainment and it is best to use a very low income budget

Of course, it is a very stupid mindset if you conclude to yourself that gambling is a place to make money, however the actual facts are not like that and quite the opposite. I'm sure people like that are those who misunderstand what is meant by the chance of winning in gambling, they think that it is something that is easy to come true, maybe I would say yes you can win even with large amounts perhaps, but what certain and the problem is that you or anyone will never know when you will win, because gambling does not have any certainty that it will always produce results.

As you said, the fact is that many people have ended up suffering as a result of using gambling as a place to earn money. Basically, something can be called a means of income if it has certainty and guarantee to actually produce it, like work in general. And gambling is not like that, there is absolutely no consistency in terms of producing wins because after all this is an activity that has risks which means it can lose any amount of your money in a short time, this is also the reason why gambling is recommended as a means of entertainment. when you are in a situation where you are bored with having an approach full of restrictions.
828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which of these betting Statements Do you Agree or Disagree With? on: March 02, 2024, 07:25:21 PM
All of the above as a gambler the list above is a good example to follow you (we) to maintain a healthy gambling conditions, as I looked from the statement if a gambler abide to them then he wouldn't become a gambling addiction because they are a good measures to follow in order to avoid and limits a gambling addiction, since most gamblier doesn't follow those statements it's easier for them to become a gambling addiction. Therefore, I agreed with all the statement above for a good gambling conducts.

True, the four points above that are in the list are very good statements for advice, but maybe this is more specifically for those beginners who have just come and got involved, because usually gamblers will determine from the beginning about how they treat gambling in the future, and if at the initial stage as a beginner they never know about the good advice that must be had and applied to their involvement in gambling such as the four points above then I think addiction is something that they are very likely to experience in the end.

However, some of the suggestions I think would be easier to do if they were still in a beginner's situation where the excessive interest in gambling is still not fully formed in the brain, meaning that this is the reason why gamblers who are already addicted always have a hard time doing the recommended things which are all for their own good,. On the other hand I'm not saying that someone who is already addicted means they are too late to enter the healing phase by implementing some of the suggestions as the OP said above, but the problem is as we know that it is very difficult to reduce or minimize involvement in gambling by implementing many restrictions because of course the interest of an addicted gambler is already quite high in his gambling activities.
829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Patience can help alot on: March 02, 2024, 07:02:09 PM
My own experiences support the idea that life's challenges teach patience. Despite life's unpredictable tides, I've learned that fatigue and irritation are part of a bigger story. As you so well said, spirituality is my refuge and source of strength. I am convinced that our lives are planned but interactive. This idea inspires me to face life's obstacles with patience rather than negativity.

I understand how consciousness and the subconscious affect our ability to tolerate life's ups and downs. This realisation makes me accept that external factors will shape our trip.
It all matters in someones acceptance when we do speak about risks taking but since we are dealing up with gambling then it would really be just that different and there are indeed
conditions on which you would really be needing up to have that control on the times that you are really that doing gambling. Self realizations + control and moderation would really be always the key.
If you do have that patience and emotion control then this is something that would really be significant if we do speak about control specially if you are barge in with tons of loses.
Once you do lose your cool then you would be finding yourself that impulsive but if not then you would really be able to handle up such situation or condition.

Self-control is very important when we are involved in the world of gambling and I think we all realize this, but the problem is "easy to say but very difficult to do" and that's the majority of gamblers where they always suggest something good and good for the sake of safety to other fellow gamblers but on the other hand they also make the same mistake in the sense of violating or even ignoring important aspects of self-control. But it doesn't matter because we as humans are not always on the right path, or that means we are never free from mistakes and in addition this is gambling where there are so many things that look tempting so it is quite natural that we have difficulty in applying and emphasizing the application of self-control along with several other restrictions in the gambling activities that we do.

I think one of the things that can minimize the occurrence of things related to out-of-control decisions is to always reassure yourself along with emphasizing that gambling is always nothing more than a "possibility" activity which means there is no certainty about the outcome at the end of the session, and also by always remembering that this is a high risk activity, because with this I think you will be able to develop the ability to accept the fact of losing at the end of the session, and this can minimize the occurrence of emotions or out-of-control decisions.
830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: your perception about gambling on: March 02, 2024, 05:51:29 PM
When it comes to hearing the general or public opinions about gambling, people can come up with diverse interpretation for that because they think its all about the way they only feels about it while some other people as well will do same in letting others know that gambling is all about the way they feels as well, but we should be mindful that anything that involves gambling should buttress the fact that comes with having fun along in it, the friendliness and sharing of common ideas while playing is what birth to gambling that people will have to stake their money for this same purpose of betting.

Yes it is true that each person or individual has their own perception and maybe most of them are different from the perspectives of other people or other gamblers, but mostly and overall I think the point of view of gambling is negative in the eyes of society, especially in the eyes of those who never gamble and always avoid gambling activities, And none other than the slogan about the badness of gambling was born from most irresponsible gamblers, in the sense that they always experience a lot of problems as a result of gambling itself, even though the problem is that they are wrong in treating gambling and instead put excessive expectations on a place that actually provides nothing more than "possibilities".

Gambling is nothing more than a game of probability which means that there is absolutely no certainty in terms of the results at the end of the session, and of course as you said above that we really have to support the idea of "gambling for entertainment", because only this perspective can make us in a safe situation and avoid bad possibilities such as addiction, sharing ideas or suggestions is a good thing and is allowed as long as it is based on a basic understanding of the actual facts that exist in gambling, such as sharing ideas for safety.
831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don’t play gambling with drugs or in half sleep on: March 02, 2024, 05:30:41 PM

Yeah, it's more like playing video games, where we don't have to wager anymore, unless a friend is close by who bets money on behalf of the game, then playing demo can't be considered gambling. However, most often, gamblers who are tired of losing money or are drunk can be playing the demo mode to keep their brain busy. I think that mode was made for the drunk guys, not to waste money while not on their right sense of mind. Hence, recommending that they use the demo, is great.

However, when a player is on substance, he may not be controlled to do anything, except what he actually wants to do. Doing away with that thought of gambling on alcohol will help a player to gamble safely. Imagine people who find it difficult to gamble on their right sense, and get into problem gambling, even without alcohol, what then would be the problem of the gambler who take alcohol for gambling purposes? A huge trouble, that has to deal with curing his drive for alcohol separately, then gambling addiction.
The main problem is impaired decision-making, not gambling mode. Deep-rooted issues demand more than a workaround

Self-awareness and control matter. Alcohol fuels irresponsible gambling. They are fighting an addiction battle in addition to their gambling problem. Responsible gambling education and resources should be prioritised. Set limits, know when to step back, and comprehend the implications of their actions. Mental health and financial security are at risk

However gambling is an activity that can stimulate the nerves in the brain to always want "more", meaning that it is very careless if someone decides to consume drugs or other drugs that can eliminate consciousness, because obviously the effect is as you said that it will greatly interfere with any decision making because consciousness is in trouble. This situation has great potential to trigger many new and bigger problems such as losing amounts that they didn't intend to allocate for gambling, and that's the effect of taking something that can lose consciousness, in the sense that you do it without a reasonable and rational mindset.

Honestly, I don't know what the reason is for them to consume drugs, alcohol or anything else that can lower their level of consciousness. I don't understand, because what should be done is the opposite, which is to avoid consuming things like that that can reduce consciousness because gambling is always about how good and how good you are at making decisions to avoid unwanted possibilities.
832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: March 02, 2024, 05:07:05 PM
I still don't understand how a gambler could possibly give it up. However, there is a hope that if a responsible person becomes addicted to gambling, I understand what to do. If one gambles for fun then he can certainly come back, on the other hand if it is for personal gain or greed then he will surely face ruin no matter how responsible a person he is. That's why I can say that someone will get addicted to casino because it gives a good amount of people a chance to earn a small amount of money which later responsible people can get out of it while others get ruined in it.

You are talking about being a responsible person like of having hair of white colour or a big nose. If you are a responsible person you simply can't ruin your life with gambling, it just can't happen to you. If "all of a sudden" you have become a gambling addict, it means you are not a responsible person. It's as simple as that.

You're looking at it from the other side, but that's fine and dandy, your statement could open everyone's eyes more to what the idea of "responsibility" really is from another, simpler perspective. Logically and simply if you are a responsible gambler then there is no way someone would ruin their life just because of gambling like you said. Responsibility is about balance, or meaning that by having good responsibility in any activity such as gambling then obviously the possibility of significant bad things should not be felt if they are truly responsible.

This is the formula or ability of a person in terms of accepting any situation or situation in the engagement in order to remain in a good balance situation, because obviously responsible gamblers they will not put the amount that is beyond their ability because their priority is to avoid the possibility of adverse effects such as a large amount of loss along with feeling a little fun and enjoyment from the gambling session that is done. But sometimes there are also some who lie to themselves by saying that they are responsible for whatever will happen but on the other hand they are often unable to accept the fact of losing, and that means nothing more than nonsense, and maybe I would call them people who hide behind the suggested idea of "responsibility".
833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 02, 2024, 04:44:57 PM
All of that really wouldn't be a problem if your wife/husband basically had a formula for maintaining a balance to prevent unwanted things or situations, but for the most part, they can't do it, it's easier said than done and that's a fact. It is gambling that ultimately is likely to make a person experience rapid changes in many aspects, whether it is in terms of the allocation of money at stake or also in terms of changes in behavior and traits.

Even if you treat gambling reasonably and gamble in moderation at first, there is always the possibility of increasing interest, many people who enter this phase of change end up betting something that is far from "reasonable" or "unreasonable", And of course this is a situation that can interfere with your relationship with your partner in a family where the main problem will be in terms of "money", losing balance in terms of money especially caused by really bad habits such as gambling of course it can trigger new problems such as divorce, so I think this is a problem that is very possible.
834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has this ever happened to you as a gambler? on: March 02, 2024, 04:24:55 PM
So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?
the situation must be that he is a gambling addict with no control over the game. he does not have and does not know a definite limit for quitting the game. it is a bad situation for a gambler. when they don't have any money but still insist on betting until they run out.
such people may have to be blacklisted by the casino. so they won't create any problems in the future. what you said makes sense and it is realistic in a gambling environment. Maybe even worse, the gambling addict forces himself to play by borrowing from his friends even though he has experienced a losing streak until his money runs out. and that will cause other problems once the gambling is over.

Yes, the person is too focused and too tempted by winning that he always persists with the idea of "one more time" and so on until in the end he has to sacrifice everything he has such as a smartphone, this is a dangerous addiction situation which is basically not impossible for him to eventually risk something much bigger than a smartphone such as maybe a vehicle or even his own house. But this is the behavior of a person when he has entered the addiction phase, there is nothing else on his mind but gambling.

What is feared in this situation is when a gambling addict turns into a criminal when he really no longer has money to gamble with, because obviously he will use any means to get money just to gamble, such as maybe stealing, robbing or cheating others. If indeed they make trouble inside the physical casino by coming without bringing money but boldly ordering games until in the end it becomes a problem because they can't pay yes maybe the casino can blacklist them, but if basically such out of control actions are done outside the casino such as doing everything even though it doesn't make sense to get money to go to the casino then it is a situation that will be more profitable for the casino, because this is a business for them by utilizing people who are excessive.
835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling still pays regardless of our losses on: March 02, 2024, 03:53:29 PM
Whether a professional or a beginner gambler, they all chases after winning as long they've their funds staked on it. And yes, there are serious and unserious gamblers which the unserious gamblers are those who gambles once a while and if they looses the bets, they feels like yeah, I just wanted to have a tasted of it today because people has been talking so much about gambling and if they wins, they says wow. I'm a  lucky guy but those serious gamblers tends to fell some grieves about when they looses and if they wins they feels like one of the super gamblers who won due to how good they're in the gambling.
But of it all, once a winner always feels good and forgets about their past losts in the main time

True, all gamblers will never refuse a win, but maybe the difference is that some are too "pushy" and some are waiting with "patience", and this is the difference between gamblers who gamble based on "hope" and gamblers who are based on the idea of "moderation". And for the problem of impact, it is clearly different, where those who push too hard will have a greater chance of ending up with addiction by experiencing many financial problems or even being able to spread to the people around them.

In this case, I think the difference is "obsession" where those who are too insistent at all costs to win have excessive obsession and end up putting very high hopes and beliefs in a place that actually only provides "possibility" and not "certainty", as in the winning situation you said here, where the typical gambler who is already addicted will react in an exaggerated way that they even claim that the victory comes from their greatness in running the session, when in fact they are just being "lucky". However, being a responsible gambler is always recommended in the sense of being able to accept the fact of losing and not overreacting when getting a win.
836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: March 02, 2024, 03:32:46 PM
As I said above, it really doesn't matter what kind of money you use, or I mean whether it's borrowed money or even stolen money, you still basically have the opportunity to win like any other gambler, and if luck comes at the same time when you gamble using borrowed money then obviously you will also be able to win. So let's be clear here that what is dangerous is "the way you make money to gamble" which is clearly dangerous in the long run when your interest in gambling is getting worse which means you will never feel hesitant to eventually return to borrowing just for something that has absolutely no certainty, and obviously the risk is that the debt will accumulate. If the situation ends up winning, that's great, but sometimes there are a lot of people who always act greedily which in turn triggers new problems.

All you think is nothing more than hallucinations that come out because you put your hopes and ideas of earning on gambling, many people are too sure that they will really win when in fact it is nothing more than their feelings as a result of putting their hopes on victory that always runs randomly to determine who wins.
There's no such thing about proofs about using up loan money or money or funds came from your own pocket or stolen on which luck factor would really be just that the same on which if you are lucky then you are lucky and you would definitely win at that moment but if not then you would really be ended up on being miserable. Using up some loan money just for you to gamble?
Just like on what most people been saying on here is that you are just basically doing up some suicide on which this is something that you must avoid in the first place because
if you do make use of a loaned money to gamble then you arent that just losing those loan amounts but also you would really be paying it up in due time + interest.

Who would really be on their right minds you that would really be doing such suicidal act? Unless if that addiction is so severe that even thinking up well is already impossible or hard
then you would really be coming up with this kind of solution or condition on which we know that this is something that not putting you up in any advantage situation
but rather it would be ideal that you should always play on the amount on which you can afford to lose. If it all bust up then simply quit or call it a day.
Dont look for another fund for you to deposit on.

Yes, it means that luck will not see where the money to gamble comes from, but in the end the odds are still the same as I said above and I think this is a fact and people I think understand this. The point is that it's the borrowing alternative that's going to be dangerous in the long run, where you might get so used to always borrowing money just to gamble when you don't have your own money. It's important to understand that gambling stimulates the brain and mind and that makes it difficult for most gamblers to quit in time, meaning that it's very likely that you'll continue to borrow mindlessly and without any hesitation and end up getting yourself into debt.

This is proof that treating gambling the wrong way will cause a lot of problems and adverse effects on a gambler, losing is the risk of all gamblers, but most gamblers always try to expand their gambling activities with actions that they think are hard work to actually be able to realize victory when in fact it will unconsciously trigger many new problems, such as getting into debt which ultimately triggers stress or depression until you might commit suicide due to not being able to handle the pressure. Therefore this is the reason why we should gamble moderately and reasonably, gambling is not that serious, you must be able to balance everything according to what is provided by the casino where they only provide opportunities or "possibilities" and that means there should be no seriousness in gambling.
837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How your feels? on: March 02, 2024, 03:03:42 PM
I want to know how it feels among those of you who gamble using altcoins or bitcoins, basically the crypto you are using today has increased significantly, we know that in 2022-2023 coins that are small are not so valuable, and how does it feel today? Is there a little regret or do you not care because the money you lose in gambling is a necessity for you, so you don't care about the crypto you have lost in gambling for the past two years?
I have a separate budget for gambling. So I will not regret gambling with that coin in this sense. Also I don't do gambling only for earning money. Gambling is a part of my entertainment. To me, investing and gambling are two different things. Market conditions may be better today where almost every coin has seen a massive increase in value but that doesn't stop me from enjoying gambling. Gamblers must prioritize their gambling. They have no trading or investment value. And those interested in both make different plans for the two platforms. I deposit a limited amount of money into gambling and if I lose that amount I pause my gambling for a while and try to keep that amount again at a certain time. I think my gambling doesn't affect my investment.

Yes separating or dividing the focus on each thing is good management for a balance, like you did which is where investing and gambling are another different thing, these are two places that are almost the same in terms of loss but maybe the difference is in terms of potential gain because investing is an activity that can be a little learned compared to gambling which is completely floating. It's best to split your focus accordingly if you're involved in these two things.

I quite agree with you that these two things are different, some people do both or are involved in both gambling and investing but they are able to divide their focus on each of the two things, I can't rule out that in this case it may be true that there are some people who gamble using the investment assets they have maintained, but after all this is each individual's freedom of choice, And the main point is that it doesn't matter what currency you gamble with as a condition of gambling, the point is that if you put a sum of money that you can afford to lose then it means that you will not have a problem because you are able to balance everything, of course it is the balance that can keep us safe even if we are involved in both of these things simultaneously, gambling is part of entertainment and investment is another thing.
838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: March 01, 2024, 11:00:11 PM
Greedy is a real problem of the gamblers.
Many gamblers never feel satisfied although they won a big price. They always want more prizes and bigger prizes. This leads to sever losses at the end, it is because there is no guarantee to win even if we keep gambling with bigger funds.


I agree with you. Most unwise gamblers often want to win even more. They are very greedy and aim for wins with a multiplier of tens of times. You can see how greedy gamblers aim for the jackpot. They spend their money just to hit the jackpot. Even though this will make you lose your money again and again. And ultimately it will destroy their lives. I think someone needs to regulate their emotions and be able to limit themselves in gambling before deciding to gamble. Because what is most dangerous about gambling is that you will become addicted if you cannot play wisely.

Yes, they continue to drive without paying attention to the brakes or even without having brakes at all on the vehicle, meaning that they are always chasing victory, and usually typical gamblers like that are those who when they get a win, they continue the session with a larger budget and multiplier, as you said that they are very greedy and always chasing something bigger. Actually in terms of chasing numbers, you can never chase a truly large amount, because the name of desire will never end in any case. This also happens in gambling where if you always pursue a larger number of wins then when you get it, of course you will have higher expectations.

While on the other hand gambling can never be separated from the name of risk, meaning that what happens instead you will experience the amount of loss that is sometimes much greater when in the phase of chasing the big win, but only a few of them realize this, and even if they realize it usually they will reason that everything they lose will be replaced by a much bigger win, "nonsense", it is too high a belief because they put their hopes on winning, too obsessed to fool themselves, right? Of course, and the key is that restrictions are really needed, whether in terms of money, time, expectations and also not forgetting that understanding must be restored.
839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling still pays regardless of our losses on: March 01, 2024, 10:06:35 PM
Congratulations on your win buddy but your message doesn't sit right with me!!

 I don't know for how long you have been gambling, but hope you understand that there is what is called beginners luck and just because you won the first one doesn't mean you will always win ...and saying regardless of losses it still pays mean you are always going to be in profits.

And if I ask veteran gamblers they all say not everyday is a rainy day and we need to keep it at that.


Btw, those that can boast of being profitable are numbered and not everyone can say this proudly!

It seems that he doesn't really understand that gambling is an activity that provides opportunities and risks, meaning that whoever it is, not only you, but all gamblers involved in betting will always end up with one of two facts at the end of the session which is between winning and losing, all gamblers must experience and feel such results. I agree with the idea of "gambling still pays regardless of our losses", so what's the problem here? Gambling does pay, but as you said that anyone will not always end up winning in every session they do, meaning "it doesn't always pay", the reason? because gambling does not have any certainty that can guarantee you or anyone to always win.

And it also means that there is absolutely no consistency in terms of getting good results such as winning, so I don't agree if anyone brings the idea of "earning" in gambling because these words are more directed to something that has guarantees and certainties such as work, and more precisely you "get / win", this is more suitable to be applied to the results of gambling because gambling always runs randomly in terms of determining who the winner is.
840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: March 01, 2024, 09:44:21 PM

Honestly for myself I can't say that borrowed money will make you always lose at the end of the session, I can't confirm that because after all if you are lucky enough then obviously even if you gamble using borrowed money you will still win in the end, But the thing about why it's so forbidden to gamble using borrowed money is because it's an action that will lead to a new and much worse habit, which is that you could potentially experience new problems in your life such as getting into debt, because I doubt that when you've tried taking out a loan then you're not interested or addicted to trying to take out another loan when you don't have the money to gamble.

Indeed, in this case the loan money will sometimes not make you lose, but on the other hand we must be aware of the risks and conditions that will be obtained.
We know that the concept of gambling that we can confirm at this time is that there is more probability of losing than winning, so by looking at this condition, we are definitely aware that sometime taking out loans just to gamble has a greater risk than your own money because in the end besides In the worst case scenario, we lose, we also have debts that must be paid and that is the consideration for not gambling with borrowed money because after all the risk is much greater and will give you a headache.

In fact, if you feel that you will be more profitable and not be bothered if the worst possibility happens then it is not a problem, it's just that we don't know what will happen with the gambling we do because we hope for luck by forcing our will to gamble i think that's too much.

As I said above, it really doesn't matter what kind of money you use, or I mean whether it's borrowed money or even stolen money, you still basically have the opportunity to win like any other gambler, and if luck comes at the same time when you gamble using borrowed money then obviously you will also be able to win. So let's be clear here that what is dangerous is "the way you make money to gamble" which is clearly dangerous in the long run when your interest in gambling is getting worse which means you will never feel hesitant to eventually return to borrowing just for something that has absolutely no certainty, and obviously the risk is that the debt will accumulate. If the situation ends up winning, that's great, but sometimes there are a lot of people who always act greedily which in turn triggers new problems.

All you think is nothing more than hallucinations that come out because you put your hopes and ideas of earning on gambling, many people are too sure that they will really win when in fact it is nothing more than their feelings as a result of putting their hopes on victory that always runs randomly to determine who wins.
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