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841  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: BitcoinETF لادارة الاصول تتقدم للحصول عل BlackRock ىشركة on: June 20, 2023, 01:51:36 AM
 BlackRock ليست اول شركة تحاول الحصول على موافقة ال SEC للحصول على BTC SPOT ETF وجرت العادة ان مثل هده الاخبار ماهي الا بداية لي هبوط عنيف في السعر حيث ان صغار المستتمرين يحاولون ان يشترو البتكوين ضننا منهم ان سعرها سوف يعانق السماء بمجرد قبول الطلب, ومن ثم يحدث الهبوط ولا يتم قبول الطلب ويتم نسيانه بعد بضعة اشهر وكأن شيء لم يكن, لذلك يجب عدم التسرع وتوقع ارتفاع السعر فقط بناء على مثل هده الاخبار.
842  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Recommended chip temperature - Antminer 17 serie? on: June 20, 2023, 01:32:41 AM
Keep it in the 70s unless you want it to break and have a short life

Or maybe just abuse them till they die  Grin, personally, I did not have much difference between running those low-quality gears cold vs hot, they all died way too soon. Cheesy


I think the Asic chip max temp for the 17 series is usually around 110c-135c.

Mind sharing where you got those numbers from? I am almost certain that no Antminer 17 series miner could run for over an hour at anything near 110-120c, let alone 135c.
843  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: اريد المساعدة لاني مبتدئة في المجال on: June 19, 2023, 09:13:39 PM
لدي رغبة كبيرة في مساعدة المبتدءئين في المنتدى خاصة المبتدئين في القسم العربي و ارشادهم لكي يتمكنوا من تحصيل قدر لا بأس به من المعرفة في هذا المجال و تطوير عضوياتهم، و لما لا الكسب من خلال كونهم أعضاء فاعلين.
لكن للأسف لاحظت ان الاغلبية همهم الوحيد هو الكسب بدون بذل اي جهد سواء للتعلم او لإفادة غيرهم.

اتفق معك اخي خالد, الاغلبية يريدون ان يكسبو المال من اول يوم لهم في المنتدى وينتهي بهم المطاف الى الحظر الدائم او عدم الحصول على المال ومغادرة المنتدى مع الوقت, لقد امضيت سنة او سنتين في المنتدى قبل ان افكر حتى التفكير في كسب المال منه عن طريق حملات التوقيع, كنت استخدم قسم البيع والشراء فقط, اما بخلاف ذلك كان تركيزي كله على التعلم ومشاركة ماتعلمته, عند تفكيري في بدء الكسب من المنتدى نظرا لاني اقوم بالمشاركة على اي حال, وفقني الله في دخول اشهر واقوا حملة توقيع في وقتها, وعندما انتهت تلك الحملة, لم اتوقف عن المشاركة حتى تحصلت على فرصة اخرى مع الحملة المنظم اليها الان.

الخلاصة, عليك التركيز على بناء حسابك وهدا الامر يحتاج الى سنة على اقل تقدير, عندها يمكنك التفكير في كسب المال, بخلاف ذلك فأنت تبحت في المكان الخطاء.
844  Local / التعدين / Re: كيف تستأجر قوة تعدين من موقع NiceHash on: June 19, 2023, 08:39:57 PM
في اخر مرة زرت فيها هذا الموضوع و التي كانت منذ اشهر عديدة قبل ان اسجل الحساب على المنتدى رسميا كانت الصور تظهر في الموضوع الرئيسي و هي تساعد كثيرا في تفسير كل المعلومات خصوصا للمبتدئين. لماذا لم تعد تظهر الصور و مكتوب مكان الصور: bitcointalk.org image proxy: Invalid image

تظهر لي الكتابة باللون الأحمر


لقد قمت بتعديل مسارات الصور وهي الان تظهر بشكلها طبيعي, يمكنك التعليق هنا ان كنت لازال تواجه صعوبة في رؤية الصور, بالنسبة للموضوع اعتقد انه قديم نسبيا وقد ويحتاج لتحديث نظرا لتغير بعض الخصائص في موقع نايس هاش نفسه, لذلك ارجو من اي شخص يلاحظ ان الارشادات الحالية لا تتماشى مع الواقع ان يخبرني بتعليق في هدا الموضوع لكي اقوم بتعديله فأنا لم استخدم موقع نايس هاش منذ فترة طويلة.
845  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: June 19, 2023, 08:31:42 PM
Would like that price jump to 45k very soon.

Would love that too, but I think it's asking for too much as far as this year is concerned, but ya, 45k BTC would certainly make life a lot easier. Cheesy

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Current Pace:   101.0126%  (604 / 597.95 expected, 6.05 ahead)

Well sadly this isn't the case anymore


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Current Pace:   103.1520%  (794 / 769.74 expected, 24.26 ahead)
Previous Difficulty:   51234338863442.89                            
Current Difficulty:   52350439455487.47                            
Next Difficulty:   between 53460683085040 and 54127429091203
Next Difficulty Change:   between +2.1208% and +3.3944%

still a bit early to judge anyway, but ya, those 1-3% jumps will be the norm until one of the large players starts feeling the pain, I believe that 60-65T difficulty will be the limit for this price range, we are not way too far from that, so we will find out in a few months.
846  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Is there interest in a standalone low power miner? on: June 19, 2023, 12:25:21 AM
Well, the pool needs to send new work every 30s/60s, whether you are mining with 1MH/s or 100PH/s..
The few bytes that get send back from the miner are irrelevant

Not sure why you think the data from the miner to the pool is irrelevant, I think it requires more computational resources than the former, and the block template/work sent by the pool is nearly identical to all miners (with some pre-determined minor changes), the submitted shares need to be checked individually and thus probably require a lot more resources.

So while the "traffic size" from the pool to the miner is larger, the "computation power" is higher for the return route, correct me if am wrong.

With that said, we are talking about a few hundred bytes exchanged every "MERKLE_REFRESH_INTERVAL" which is probably 30/60 seconds for most pools, any decent pool should be able to handle hundreds of thousands of miners regardless of their hashrate, I am not aware of any mining pool that requires a minimum hashrate, they all have minimum difficulty and that's all about it, you can mine with a Pentium 1 CPU if you wish, it's all just matter of getting any valid hashes or not.

On a side but related note, posting consecutive posts is against the form rules and might get your posts deleted if someone reports them or a mod sees them, please edit the first post to include the other 2 replies and delete those.

Good luck.
847  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Is there interest in a standalone low power miner? on: June 18, 2023, 09:21:56 PM
(*) I'm not sure if any (solo) pool will support low hash rate miners in the future. Pool operators have to pay for their hardware and connection, and a low hash rate miner costs them as much as a complete mining farm. Maybe CK can answer that.

I think 0.2th - 0.25th is and will be for a good period of time enough hashrate to reasonably connect to any mining pool, it's completely fine if I get a valid share every 5 mins instead of every 5 seconds, the pool manages its resources through share difficulty and the hashrate of the device is irrelevant to them, they maintain certain traffic between their server and your miner/proxy by raising/lowering the difficulty.

Now the real question is, what is the price tag? I know you said you don't know, for you to get answers you need to find the answer to that question first, i might be interested in buying a few if it was $50, maybe buy 1-2 if it was $100, ditch the idea altogether if it was $200, so ya, sadly, it all boils down to the price.
848  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: The downside of using Nicehash and the likes of it. on: June 18, 2023, 08:51:42 PM
not to bash any pool service but each have thare pro-side and con-side

Indeed, I am not saying nicehash is worthless, or that people should not use it nor am i promoting another service, this topic is not even intended for how and what you should use nicehash for, this topic was to "expose" the marketing lies made by nicehash, which also reflects well to all other hash rental services, i find it annoying that when just so happen that some other x sha256 coin is paying well and suddenly NH is paying 6% more than mining directly to a BTC pool, you see NH posting that shit all over the internet, bragging about how you will make more profit when you mine to their service.

On the other hand, when THEY are paying 20% or 30% LESS than the average pool, they keep silent and don't mention anything about it, I am not asking for too much, not expecting them to come out and say (we are paying less now, use something else), all am asking is for them to stop doing these marketing lies, in other words, to keep their mouths shut in all cases, including those of which they pay more.

If any thinks that's a fine way of promoting your pool, then any pool that gets a lucky streak for 24 hours and post on their Twitter and here about how they pay 20% more than the average pool, and then on another day when they pay only 80% they act as it has never happened and everything that is left for the newbies to see is that "we are paying 20% more" which was true for x period of time, but despite it being accurate then, it is still a marketing lie.
849  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Exposing the Energy Mafia: Help Needed in Kyrgyzstan on: June 18, 2023, 05:32:18 PM
Pretty wrong to refer to power consmption as X wat per X time, so this part

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500 MW of power is dedicated to mining. Every winter,

It is either just MW or MWh (mw hour), only the latter cab be linked to time, you probably want to decide which unit to use so that you can strengthen your position and be taken seriously.

Now, with all the things in the post, you are likely going to need a solid proof first, then, try to reach out to independent media in your country, it would be more affective than just posting here.

Hope you find other people here who are willing to support your case.
850  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S19j Pro 104th chips state is "normal" but wont hash??? on: June 18, 2023, 01:13:57 PM
I got my sd-card adapter. Apparently its USB 3.0 but luckily 3.0 is backwards compatible all the way down to 1.1.

I flashed the image onto the adapter, stuck it in, booted it up and nothing. I go to the ip address and its still the old firmware.

From my understanding, it should have auto-installed after boot-up...

It could have flashed the firmware but just so happened that it is the same version, to confirm if it went through or not, you would check your pool settings (should go back to default settings) and the miner's ip settings (back to dhcp).

Try BraiinOS, it should boot from the sdcard without flashing to nand.
851  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S19j Pro 104th chips state is "normal" but wont hash??? on: June 17, 2023, 07:21:27 PM

But in the first kernel log he posted it was not showing 0 asic for the bad hashboard, which is why we started talking about the EPROM, if shows 0 asic then that is a different story, it is likely the hashboard is dead and needs repair, in other words, it is unlikely to be software related.
852  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S19j Pro 104th chips state is "normal" but wont hash??? on: June 17, 2023, 02:39:27 AM
Wait, the new logs you posted is telling a different story from the one in the op

Code:
2023-06-16 22:31:38 Chain[2]: find 0 asic, times 2
2023-06-16 22:31:38 Chain 2 only find 0 asic, will power off hash

This shows that the 3rd chain is dead, in the op it was chain 0 ( labeled 1 in the GUI), did you swap these two hashboards?
853  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Free electricity, just the equipment left. on: June 16, 2023, 12:44:15 PM
All legal stuff aside and assuming you got that handled, the real question is (how much power can you use?) This is will be the most important factor to decide what gears you should buy, buying just whatever is cheapest is a terrible idea, when you answer this question I can suggest a few models that would fit you best.
854  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S19j Pro 104th chips state is "normal" but wont hash??? on: June 15, 2023, 04:54:59 PM
I pulled out the two good boards and now its telling me "No data yet! Data is currently unavailable".

This could very well be an EPROM related issue, it would have been very helpful if you were able to install custom firmware on this type of control board, there is probably a way to get in using SSH or something else, I'd try to contact BrianOS and Vnish folks (AwsomeMiner to ASIC.to) and ask if they have a way to burn their firmware on this weird control board.

Custom firmware ignores that voltage setting stored in the EPROM and can many times fix such issues, if there is no option, you are going to need a pro to fix it, they will probably start by copying the hex from a good board to the bad one.
855  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: June 15, 2023, 01:09:27 AM
3-4%
63 blocks ahead of pace maybe 4-8 hours left.

It was 2.17% , the last 60 blocks were found pretty slow, slow enough to bring the pace from 103.3% to 102.17%, either bad luck or a lot of hashrate left at the end of the epoch, still 2% is a lot of new gears, price has fallen slightly below 25k, overall, a bad month for miners compared to the a few previous months.
856  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: June 13, 2023, 08:17:17 PM
Price needs to go up 🆙.

Looks like all the big farms are making that bet.

Indeed, and that's a very risky bet to be completely honest, I mean, we all are betting on the price to go up long term, and that's pretty fine, but betting on both price and time has some serious consequences if x doesn't happen before y is asking for too much, they are going to need a price jump BEFORE the halving, none of these large guys will be doing fine post halving, and then it's only a matter of time before the great collapse if the price doesn't make up for the halving.

It will be fun to watch to watch these things unfold.
857  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 275 blocks solved! on: June 13, 2023, 02:20:43 PM
I'm in Europe and the latency is always constant at 114, it strikes me that I have less latency in other pools in the US, honestly, I've been in ckpool for a while and it gives me a lot of confidence and since this is a lottery, if a block arrives welcome be!!.

How do you know your miner is connecting to a server in the U.S when you use other pools? It could be connecting to EU server since most pools have one there, besides the U.S is rather large, servers located in the east side of the country will have lower ping time than those in the west (as far as EU and Africa is concerned).

That p.s many other technical reasons that could affect your ping results,  114 is pretty decent, way better than my average for sure, don't worry at all, keep mining.
858  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 275 blocks solved! on: June 13, 2023, 12:06:49 AM
Thanks for the answer, now I understand how the ports work better, any ideas to lower the latency?

Ckpool is one of the few addresses that gives me high latency, I am beginning to believe that it will be from my ISP, but I have few options to change providers.

It's highly unlikely to be an ISP related issue, it's mainly about your geographical location and the distance between your miner and the pool's server, someone who lives next door to wherever the server is located will have less latency then someone with 10x faster internet connection but lives on the other side of the world.

As far as I know CKpool has a single server in the U.S, the other large pools have different servers in different locations which is probably why you are getting better results in terms of "ping", but, you need to be really far and have a shitty connection to have a ping high enough that would affect your mining operations, it isn't exactly accurate to just ping a pool's website, but it's good enough to get some results, so if you ping Ckpool and it doesn't take more than 200ms or so, you are good.

I personally tried mining to a PPS pool while being behind a VPN of another country in a different continent, mining to a pool in a completely different continent on the other side of the planet, and my rejected/stale shares were close to zero, the overall ping for that route was no less than 300-400ms and it was all good, I am not telling you it's perfectly safe to mine with 300ms, most pool operators won't take the risk of giving the green light because nobody wants to be held responsible, so they will generally tell you to try and keep it below 200ms (most of them won't even give you a number, to begin with), but based on my own personal experience, you will be good with up to 300ms, if you could bring it down to 30ms, ya even better, if not -- still works.
859  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 275 blocks solved! on: June 12, 2023, 12:35:48 PM
A question to the group with my ignorance on the subject, with an S9j as is my case that I play the lottery solo, which port should I point to 3333 or 4334 since I see that in 4334 it is very difficult to work but when it works, works better than port 3333.

Different ports handle pool difficulty differently, there is no way your miner would work better/worse just because of that, using high difficulty means fewer shares reported to the pool but every share is worth more, reported hashrate will fluctuate when you use high diff on a slow gear, eventually it will catch up and average out, but it would be pretty normal to see a 100th gear reports 500th and then 5th, but that doesn't change the fact that it's nothing but a 100th gear.

You and the pool want something in between, something reasonable, not too low that submits every share every ms and puts stress on the server, your router, and everything involved, also not something too large, where your miner needs 30 mins to find a share above the set difficulty and gives you all those wired readings and then you don't know what's the real hashrate your miner is getting.

Note that, all of that has exactly no effect on your chances of hitting a block, any share that hits a block would be greater than the difficulty set by any port/pool, but to ensure a smooth operation, always just use the ports specified by the pool operator, if it tells you port x is for rental, it really means it's for rental, using it to mine directly could create issues along the way.

860  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: June 12, 2023, 12:12:15 PM
But 22k for mara could lower next quarter as they may not be adding gear for a while.


It could go up if the difficulty affect is greater than whatever interest they pay for the gear, right? I mean if difficulty is 1 and you need 1 S19 that uses 100$ to mine 1 BTC then your bare cost is $100, if difficulty jumps to 2, you will need 2*19s to make 1 BTC OR run the same S19 for twice the time which also means double cost, so in that case the bare cost is $200.

I believe it will only get worse for them because the difficulty increases more than they can afford to expand, a 10% increase might be 9% from other players and only 1% comes from your company, in order for them not to be affected by the difficulty they will have to keep adding gears every 2 weeks that matches whatever the overall network increase, I would imagine at such scale it would be pretty difficult to accomplish.

Mara has at least 13.5EH, to match the next 3% spike they need to add 0.4EH or 2,857 S19 XPs and 8MW worth of power, there is no way they can keep doing that every difficulty epoch, so until all those large players sit together and decide to stop taking away from their own profit, they will keep making things worse for each other, if they add gears they increase their debt and loans they have to pay, if they don't, they will make less BTC and that will increase the overall cost of their operations, I don't see how things can get better without either a difficulty drop or a price increase.
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