Nah. They're sellin' 'em just like the other whores

It is odd. But I have seen it before. (not this exact issue). I've seen things that worked great for multiple things just refuse to work on one particular model. Electronics seem to have problems with daemonic possession

I have also seem quality brands put out one model that just sucked. Anybody remember the first run of USRobotics 28.8kbps modems?

Not the point. He's talking about hot plugging the PCI-e connectors. Doesn't matter what the device is, that's a good way to let the smoke out.

Edit. others covered this. Oops.

I see both sides, quite well. That being said, I won't do business with a company without knowing who their principals are and how to contact them. This was why I was (and am) a supporter of KnC, and to a lesser extent (due to lack of proper diligence on my part, no actual prejudice), Cointerra. I'm a bit leary of HashFast, as they keep changing their claims. But even so, they state who they are and make it verifiable.

That being said, were I trying to get into the manufacturing/marketing side of this game, I'd be a bit afraid. There are some... marginal personalities on these fora. Granted, behind the anonymity of an internet handle you can be a bit over the top without repercussion. But still, one has to wonder how much of that pent up crazy might leak into the real world. With the kind of money changing hands here, I'd be very leery of going public, and if I did, part of the money generated would go into some serious personal security. Like an ex SAS bodyguard or the like.

I really hope these guys turn out to be legit. The fact that they are working with Marto certainly helps their reputation from my POV, but they need to have proper contact information. Hopefully they'll get there.

brb, gonna go study electrical engineering for a few years and then ask a question that by then I'll already know the answer to. Thanks for clarifying, at least I asked first, instead of frying my stuff.
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Good on you! This place is not newbie friendly. I know. Not long since I was in the same boat. (I wouldn't have made the mistake you did, but I made plenty of others!)

Seriously, though. Nearly all ac to dc power supplies are NOT hot pluggable. Not just computer equipment, that's across the board. You can get away with it on a lot of things, but the only one I can think of that's designed to be hot pluggable is a USB phone charger.  That's not a slam on ya, btw. Just sayin'.

I think you missed one important aspect, and it does teach a lesson. Not a good one. In most cases, contrary to "pop culture" bullshit, the bully is a popular kid. Often a jock. He don't get suspended. The wimpy kid does.

Yet ten years later, if the "wimpy kid" gets his anger under control and dedicates himself, he's running a successful company, and the jock is pumping gas.

Your last sentence is so spot-on that I think I'm going to put it in my sig

...and then people would bitch about not having a specific date. Truth is they are in a race, and the only way to win is be first.

I didn't preorder simply because I didn't have the money. I would have bet on that horse (and not bitfury, so I got it half wrong ). I think KnC has delivered well enough. As in my previous post, I think there are people who you just cannot satisfy, regardless. I would be happy with what they have done, and I'd be faking patience if I were one of the people who's miners didn't make the final announced spec. I'd certainly be on them about it, but not mean. Just "hey, here's what it's doing, what next?".

I think for the next gen of chips, manufacturers would be wiser to work totally in secret and have a consumer grade product ON HAND before opening their order books, even if it's just a small batch. It's a safer model for all involved. But there is danger there, as well, due to the time sensitive nature of this race.

On topic, I'll just say that there has never been a mass shooting at a private school.

Also, I have to correct myself, as you pointed out. It was someone else who had mentioned teacher's pay scale at private schools, and I got mixed up. Your point is noted and acknowledged. Charter schools didn't exist when I was in public school, so I actually have no opinion on their efficacy. I do object to being taxed for them, but I object to the existence of tax. I am an anarchist. Nevertheless, as far as it goes and given the world we live in, I have no experience of charter schools.

I will say that both statistically and in my own experience, your results are atypical. While high school does to some extent prep a person for college, it does nothing for your real world life. I would go so far as to say that the vaunted "socialization" that seems to be the only remaining fallback of those who object to homeschooling is detrimental to your real world life. It's the socialization of a prison. You are FORCED to interact with people who you have nothing in common with, and that's the least worse part of it.

If you are a geek, or any other "marginal" grouping, you WILL be bullied. I experienced this in EVERY school I went to. (My dad is an electrician. We traveled like military people do)The only "positive" I could derive out of this is that I learned very young how to fight for my life. So, from my experience, the only thing I got out of this vaunted socialization is the ability to kill with my hands. Is that really what the social engineers want? Granted, it's a valuable skill, but they overtly discourage any sort of self defense, so obviously they are either lying, or this is an unintended consequence. By the time I got out, I was convinced that being in a group larger than five people was likely a deadly peril. I went from being a friendly, if somewhat awkward, kid to an angry outcast who HATED my species. Took me a number of years to get over that. You can keep your socialization. There is no way my morals will allow me to inflict it on my children.

As to the rest, Moonshadow Ninja'd me again, so I'll leave his words to stand for me as well.

a) LOL
b) supposedly being addressed. We will know in a few days
c) agreed
d) compensation was offered and in some cases received. 1 bitcoin per day not hashing from expected delivery, and 1 month free hosting.

My personal thought on this is that they made a hell of an effort, and hit some unforseen (largely due to optimism) speedbumps. So far, they have been very up on things up to sep 30th, after which they somewhat dropped the ball. According to Bitcoinorama, they've all been working themselves ragged trying to fix everything. I suspect they'll get it all ironed out to the satisfaction of most of their customers. Having followed their development since the day they posted their proposal, I will have to say that there will be some who are not satisfied no matter what. I think those few can be discounted, because there is no scenario under which they would be satisfied.

The extreme variance in hashrate is troubling, and I suspect there are hardware problems that have not been addressed by KnC, though we simply don't know what they're doing. Again, I think they will bend over backwards to make it right. These boys have pride, and skills. That's a dangerous, but usually useful combination of traits.

I was going to reply the public school issue, but I got pretty well Ninja'd by Moonshadow. While my circumstances are not the same, my conclusion is.

I graduated early via the California High School Proficiency Exam. Supposedly, it was indicative of what you should have learned by 12th grade. I have NEVER taken an easier exam, on anything, including the laughable written tests that pass as driver exams. That was 2 and a half decades ago.

I have worked in food service most of my life, which can be cause for ridicule, but it also put me in close contact with the results of the public education system. It has gotten HORRIBLE. 18 year old children in today's America don't have a skill set, unless you count texting... badly. They are not fit for ANY job upon exiting high school. As a manager in that field, you pretty much have to start with basic reading comprehension and what would have been third grade maths when I was in school. And it was awful then.

But they can talk up the "merits" of social welfare, and various war related fantasies. And they can play the hell out of video games.

They are taught to NOT question ANYTHING. We have at least two generations of engineered morons. The few who manage to get an education usually did it by non traditional means, or just plain ignored the curriculum like I did. From third grade until I escaped, the only things of value I learned were during my (frequent) periods of detention. I quickly discovered the bias that teachers have against books. Their idea of punishing me for asking inconvenient questions was to send me to the library. Which was where I wanted to be anyway, so this was hardly "corrective" action.It did, however, allow me to self educate and find that the "exam" that had a 75 percent failure rate was the easiest fucking test every put in the english language.

Hit rewind a couple of decades, and public schools were alright. My dad learned two useable trades before he graduated high school in 1954. I graduated in 1984, and everything of value I learned was outside of or in spite of the system. It continues to get worse.

There were some good teachers, too. But they were universally hated by the establishment, hamstrung on what they could teach, and most gave up in disgust within a couple of years.

As for the pay in public schools being greater than that in private schools, I have seen no evidence of that. And I have looked. My preferred model is homeschooling, but right after that is private. Because I have some say in what and how my child is educated. They still idolize the state entirely too much, but they do at least teach some subjects of value, and teach them well.

With this I will drop the derail, as this is a subject worthy of it's own thread.

+10000

Horseshit. I can put 10 on target in less than 2 seconds with ANY decent autoloading pistol. If you do not shoot, and are unaware of the capabilities of guns, you should educate yourself before making blanket statements.

Hell, you can put 12 .32 caliber balls in the head and neck with ONE shot, if you're using .00 buckshot in a 12 gauge at less than ten feet.

Also, you should bear in mind that small cal bullets do not necessarily STOP an assailant right away. Forget tv. In reality, the physics of the situation make it impossible to blow an assailant seriously backwards without doing the same to YOU.

I've been shot in the leg with a .25. Went clean through my calf muscle. Didn't even slow me down as I was running the fuck away. Didn't even hurt till the adrenaline wore off. Guns are not magic. They are constrained by physics. A follow on shot, or multiple follow on shots, could be very easily justified if the assailant don't STOP. A .38 special is not a particularly powerful gun. They're a compromise between recoil and penetration power. If it's not a dead accurate shot (which is highly unlikely in such scenarios) then follow on is not only justified, it's inevitable.

Dunno where you're coming from, but my take is this. Schools are disarmed. By law. "gun free" zones. Which in reality means that only the criminals/crazies will have guns.

This is just one of about a zillion reasons why my kids will NOT go to public schools. If no crazy shoots them up, they will have their minds filled with meaningless tripe that drives out reasoning skills.

I have yet to find ONE example of a mass shooting occuring where there were armed people capable of a response. They have all been in places where it is illegal to defend yourself. I regard such laws as an affront to civilised behaviour. Such laws should be ignored on the basis of reality.

Despite the rhetoric in the so-called news, cops do not have any duty to defend you. I am personally aware of at least three supreme court cases where this has been explicitly stated. In point of fact, even if they had such a duty, they would be unable to perform unless there was a one to one ratio of humans to cops.

Making the fantastical assumption that cops had the best interests of the sheep in their hearts, they are at best agents of vengeance after the fact. Given their abysmal 3-4 percent solve rate, they aren't even good at that. Most cases are broken by citizens. This is even obliquely admitted in the shows that glorify the police on ID and similar channels.

In the event of a sudden, armed attack, your two best assets are a cool head and a gun. Contrary to all the bravado and bullshit I frequently hear, in such an event you SHOULD shoot to kill. Not a head shot, though, unless you are insanely skilled. I'm a very good pistolero, and I would still shoot for the center of mass. Head shots are tough, and in that split second decision you do not have that kind of time. If you do, you can probably defuse the situation without shooting. The cooper pattern is your friend. (two to the chest, safety to the head. Quick.) Should the assailant survive, sure, let 'em live. The gun and you did their jobs. Said assailant is highly unlikely to try it again.

Again, contrary to popular opinion, a headshot is not invariably fatal, as demonstrated by the article in the OP. Dead center between or just above/below the eyes, pretty much. Deviate just a little, and the frontal sinuses do their job, absorbing impact and deflecting the bullet. Obviously less likely with more powerful bullets, but the most common pistol is a .22. Nasty little bastard, but not much peripheral damage. It's like being hit with a heavy needle. It either hits something vital or just punches a hole.

For home defense, especially for women, my recommendation is a shotgun. 12 gauge with a pistol grip, as the recoil is less likely to knock her down than a traditional buttstock. With a shotgun, you don't have to be real accurate, and the sound of the slide racking will put any potential assailant in a cold sweat. Up close, there just is no substitute unless you are an expert.

Personally, I prefer two pistols, but I am an expert shot. For my wife, I want a mossberg 500 "persuader" at easy reach.

Hopefully, she'll never need it, and I won't need my pistols except at the range. But it is better to be prepared. I would rather be heard by 12 than carried by six.

LOL!

I'm not an idaho native, the jokes don't bug me. I called Boise "spudville" for the whole 14 years I lived there

The perception of "hickville" does bug me, though, just because it isn't true. It's true of a lot of Idaho, but Boise is a serious modern city. Pretty nice place, actually.

Right now, I live in Mountain Home and work in Boise. That needs rectification. Mountain Home has no mountains, no entertainment, little commerce, and no charms. It's only virtue is it's cheap to live here. Ok, two virtues, the 'Net service here is pretty spectacular compared to most small towns I've been in. Unfortunately they're all dead, but the people who picked the flattest spot in Idaho and named it Mountain Home ought to be killed. And resurrected, and killed again. And again.

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Uh, really?

Google Micron Technology.

Boise/Treasure Valley area is a high tech mecca like Silicon Valley. There was, of course, no internet because there was no internet anywhere But we had tech. That was why it was so hard to get an apartment. Zilog, HP, Micron, and several startups were hiring like mad. Boise doubled in size in the early 90's on a high tech boom.

Less likely to bring official attention at least

Best solution on that end of things would be for the people of the former America to rise up and smite the TSA goons. Fatally. But I think my Dad's generation was the last one with the balls to do it

Are you insane? TSA would have kittens. And you'd never see your miners. Plus those nice Friendly Bong Inspectors would probably show up on your doorstep demanding why you were shipping explosives from sweden...

@O'rama: That FedEX news saddens me. In my years of management, DHL and FedEX ran neck and neck. Never had a serious problem with either one of them, and on the minor problems, FedEX made good and then some within hours of the problem being brought to their attention. But it has been ten years since then.

Glad at least one of them still has quality. UPS has sucked for my entire life. USPS, though probably not relevant, is the best example of "random' you can find.

Yeah, postcard is a good idea. Also, if any of you know where he lives and are somewhat nearby, maybe drop by. He's been off a rather long time. Obviously, I don't know the man, but this seems odd. Hope he's ok!

I'll start this with a disclaimer. I know shit about Sweden.

But I do know University towns. I'd go to the university student union and check the bulletin boards. There are usually a bunch of places that never see the papers or craigslist or any of that, and they are often cheap.

In Reno and Boise, that was about the fastest way to find a place. When I moved to Boise in '90, there wasn't a place to be had on any of the "official" channels. I found a place in two hours through the above method.

Hope it helps.

That was also true of a little currency called the Euro, not very long ago at all.

Gotta start somewhere.