His figures are a bit off. I'm mining about .18 a day with 80 GH/s. The psu ain't that big of a deal, though.
If there is a pool that will pay 0.18 BTC/day for 80gh/s I'm switching!  I believe you meant 0.018  pfft. yeah. sorry about that. I am under the influence of an 11 day old child. |
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I am mining at eligius with BFL 60GH/s miner. Usually (several months, actually) it averages to 60.7 GH/s, but starting last week it shows 59.9 GH/s
Anyone noticed something similar? If it was hardware issue like one core dead, I believe hashrate would decrease significantly more
Did you cycle the power before this happened? In a BFL 65 nm device, you'd like see a drop of more than ,1 GH/s if you had a blown core. I've noticed that the hashrate can differ by 1-1.5 GH/s after powering it off and on. After several hours, it often climbs back up to the usual rate, but sometimes sticks at the lower rate for several days. I then try cycling the power again if it annoys me, but this can leave me with the lower rate that annoyed me. About the only thing you can try is 1) wait a while, or 2) cycle the power. If it were to drop to a steady 54% you could contact them for an RMA, but for a less than 1 GH/s drop, they would likely say the same thing I am. Coincidently, I got this same suggestion from their tech support several months back due to a similar issue with my 50 GH/s unit. Good luck. so how many btc a day do you get with this pool running 60gh/s? I'm curious because I really want to get into this stuff bad. I think I can get a 60gh/s miner on ebay for $600-700ish I can't remember I saw them earlier today anyway. edit: I just saw this one right now: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/butterfly-BFL-60-GH-s-mining-rig-fast-ship-/171228601992?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item27de051e88edit2: this "burnt out power supply" issue these BFL miners have seems super annoying His figures are a bit off. I'm mining about .18 a day with 80 GH/s. The psu ain't that big of a deal, though. |
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I'm hoping someone can help me with merged mining. I cannot get the signature to pass when I add my nmc address. I've used multiple programs to sign and verify including mtgox, bitcoin-qt, electrum, and just about every other app out there. The sig passes on the application but fails on the website and I've even manually typed in every character rather than copy/paste and it still fails. What am I doing wrong ?
Are you sure you selected the correct address to sign with? I thought I did but the whole thing has me confused now. I put in my NMC address in the appropriate box, which I assume is different from my BTC mining address. I copied and pasted the signing message to electrum, signed it and pasted the results in the signature box. It fails every time. Maybe some strange browser? Try it in another one clearing cookies/caches first
I used Firefox but I'll try something else. Thanks. I use Electrum as well. Highlight the receiving address and right click on it. Choose "sign message". Copy the entire "this is the signed message you need to send" line into the message box. Hit sign message, enter your password, then copy the output back into the box on eligius. I've adjusted several times now, without error. Hope this helps. |
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someone using this address stole my coins from http://eac.poolerino.com/ eZE11vdpGVEdsfkLUzsC19iGT1sym8p7kg when is someone going to make a new style of pool or password and user name keeper its impossible to remember every different password I use Keepass2. http://keepass.info/you only have to remember the master password to unlock your passwords. It can generate passwords that would give the NSA fits. Keep your shit locked with that, and if someone does hack it, be sure to recruit them for your own criminal enterprise, cuz you sure don't want that genius on the other side. Edit: somebody above beat me to the punch. That's two endorsements |
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ever get that sinking feeling that dodge will overtake ltc and make all the ltc you hold worthless
don't think that will/can happen - I mean - that would make plenty of people multimillionaires overnight its mostly hype, i wouldnt worry bout doge much and def no chance of overcoming ltc thats the thing with cryptos, they have no worth outside what people are willing to pay for them. Get enough hype anything can happen That is somewhat true but you are completely missing out on the understanding of the entire technology. Paper notes have NO WORTH outside what people are willing to pay for them as well, and further more they are worse in the sense that their value is artificially regulated by manipulation of the money supply for the "betterment of the many" so rockets can be built to go to the moon, nuclear battleships can be constructed to provide protection from an invisible threat and the NSA has a budget to spy on its own people - would you knowingly pay a portion of your income to those projects??!!! The system exists now to maintain control and enslave the rest of us - that is my opinion of course and although I try to remove it from the literature I use to promote EarthCoin, I think it is evident so I might as well say it. 130 years ago, while you were chewing your chewing tobacco, hammering shoes over an anvil, and your neighbour was putting on the hinges to a coffin in his mortuary and the whore house down the street was sweeping the front step, a clean suited man came strolling up the dusty street with his briefcase in hand. He looked sharp and crisp, new, government type - not a lawman. He walked into the Saloon to a general audience and politely introduced himself as a disciple from the Federal Government. He politely explained how all of you over the next few months had to turn your Gold into him in exchange for his paper notes which were now going to be considered legal tender for trade instead of you shaving bits of your Gold off out of your pocket which was a crude way to do business in his opinion. Instead, they were going to take your Gold put it in a vault at a fixed rate they determined and they would give you some debt notes that were related to that Gold you have given them and you would use that for trade. He was laughed out of the saloon and escorted kindly to the town limits. However he returned with force the next time and it was written by decree or fiat, that you were to give up your Gold in exchange for paper notes under the threat of imprisonment!! It took 20 years for people to finally accept the worthless paper money but enough education had passed that it was easy to correlate the idea of Gold in the vault to the serial numbered issuance of paper money so it began to be believed it had value. Everyone became enslaved during that moment and over the years following, the treasury note was leveraged, fractionalized and derived magnitudes of order of its original value as the Government printed more and more and more with you powerless to do anything about it. You simply must work harder and harder now to have the same thing as 50 years prior. BUT the people who adopted paper money with out a fight and saw its future were rewarded accordingly. People like the Rockefellas and JP Morgan and many others because of their early adoption they were allowed loans and credit and leverage for providing credibility to the paper note. This extraordinary wealth through borrowing allowed them to build their early empires and benefit immensely where the people last to adopt its use benefited less. EarthCoin and crypto currencies in general will follow the same path of reward BUT they are much different in the sense that everyone will benefit from them over time regardless of when they come in, as they only become more and more valuable over time providing a base to build for the next generation. The early adopters will of course benefit more but not through its fractionalization, instead through its proliferation of acceptance. EarthCoin's supply is finite and limited and does not place the power of the creation of the money supply in a few hands, it awards that privilege to a decentralized mechanism that ensures its authenticity!! Simply incredible. Hype is not required! Education is. And you are right, with proper EDUCATION each one of these currencies if not abused will form a massive market capitalization as people turn in their paper money for a crypto-currency and abandon the broken system. Each coin will represent the underlying trade in which each was created for. Many will find their own niches, even Sex Coin for its use on porno sites possibly and its market cap will be correlated to the amount of trade in that classification. EarthCoin will find its niche hopefully with everyone, an identity that can unite us all regardless of color, religion, race or nationality. The Earth is a much better symbol of strength as it is the medium, the agar, the life-blood, which supports all of us! Much more appropriate than an Eagle or All-Seeing Eye that represents the beliefs of 300 million people in the United States. When you compare the two stores of value it is almost laughable that anyone in their right mind would even consider accepting those worthless debt notes. Do you want to cause a revolution! A real revolution!? When crypto-currencies reach a critical mass of ownership (We are currently approaching 10 million), I am talking a few hundred million people, you would organize decentralized masses to converge on city centres, withdrawing as much paper notes from the banking system in their respective nations as possible and you would pile it in a mound in the centre of the mass of people at which point you would simultaneously light it on fire and watch it turn to ash, removing all belief that it had any value what so ever. It would be a dramatic end to slavery. The very next day, most commerce would begin in crypto-currencies and believe you me the World would work just fine. The people who have used the debt model to become wealthy would not be too happy though because their paper money would barely pay the hydro bill. I like Warren Buffet though, I would take care of him! Quoted for posterity. Outstanding, sir. 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I honestly have no idea what you're saying. I'll just keep mining BTC and buying more gear. And when I've had enough, I'll sell my ASICs for even more profit. But thanks for trying!  Super, Good luck! Let us hope that you have no idea what i am talking about because my English is not native, not because you are refusing to understand what is all about. Best A bit of both, I guess. Just curious... why do people like you feel the need to post this "you'll never ROI" nonsense in the Custom Hardware forum when there's a whole section devoted to Mining Speculation. Because I want a fair price and the only way to get it is to stop paying the ridiculous amounts for the EOF hardware. Only way this to happen is to try to convince people like you. That is why I am posting occasionally here and there. Please do excuse me for that, but all this nonce is leading us to nowhere. People have been saying that from the beginning. If you go back and look at early 2011, when I started GPU mining whether I came out ahead mining or buying bitcoin depends on when I would have bought them. I made way more BTC from GPU mining then I would have from if I had just bought bitcoin for around $5-10. unfortunately I ended up selling a lot of those bitcoins around $10... I did still make a pretty big USD profit, though and I had enough bitcoin left over for a B2 Avalon, which again more then paid for itself. The thing is, I made most of my bitcoins in the long phase where difficulty leveled off before the first ASICs hit the network. Eventually the same thing is likely going to happen with ASIC miners, margins are already getting pretty thin, but the difficulty is going to have to go up a long way before they're unable to pay for their own electricity, and when prices go up the margins on that electricity go up as well. So for example, my Avalon is probably still making about $15/day, while using about $1.26 in power. So, even though the difficulty has gone way up, the usable life has been extended. Please think of ROI in BTC.... not in fiat. The point is spending BTC now and you're not gonna get back that amount of BTC. Price goes up, your stash value goes up, contrast to mining.... price goes up, difficulty will continue to rise due to noobs, your mining gear's value goes down, getting harder to get back that initial BTC. What i've learned since mining is that simply buying BTC and hold would gain alot more. I think of ROI as a Return On Investment, because that's what it means. The formula is somewhat simple, the data are not. But your oversimplifcation, which I see all the time here, is ridiculous on it's face and even more so if you analyze it in depth. Let's look at reality, shall we? If you are mining or buying BTC, you absolutely ARE BETTING ON IT'S EXCHANGE RATE. The only way this would not be true is if you are deluding yourself into thinking that bitcoin will replace the Dollar or the Euro as a reserve currency on the large scale in the near future. If you are holding that delusion, I'm sorry. It's a nice fantasy, but short of the utter collapse of either of those currencies, it isn't going to happen. Thus this game is one of exchange. You hold in hopes that the exchange will rise. You generate coins on the same hope. If you invested 10BTC at 10 bucks back a couple years ago to get back 1 BTC today, you made a massive profit. Not merely a ROI, but an actual, spendable, tradeable profit. The form it takes is truly irrelevant, unless you are beholden to some sort of cult mentality. Me, I trade BTC for dollars on the high side and dollars for BTC on the low side. I also will trade anything of value for anything else of value. This is the nature of trade. Supply, demand, and the differential betwixt them. Purchasing power trumps numerical value or labels. Yeah, I'd like to see the world get away from government fiat monies. And eventually, it will. Or at least they will have a lot of open competition. But while that's a nice dream and even a worthy goal, I live in the now, and so do you. Plan for the future, of course, but base your plans on the real, not what you think "ought" to be. |
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Also, Antminers are not currently for sale from stock. And wasn't the 2.65BTC price just an introductory offer from the new BitMain website and limited to only the first 30 units sold?
No, first 30 units were priced at 2.40. At current price and BTC/USD ratio, a full rig will not break-even.spiccioli Why do people always insist on offering that same piece of "advice" over and over again? If I had heeded that advice I wouldn't currently have 2THs of mining gear with another 4THs+ preordered mining gear. All of this has been paid for (with the exception of the first 200GHs or so) from the BTC I mined. And I still have approximately $20,000 worth of BTC left in my wallet. And no, I wouldn't have even more if I had bought and held BTC instead. I tried doing that and I failed miserably. Like most people, I panicked at the first dip and lost a good chunk of my modest investment, lol. "Buy and hold" isn't in my nature. I'm a miner and proud! Give this man a cigar! Plus many. I'm a miner by nature. In the 80's it was real gold. Made a bit of money at it, had a blast. Probably spent more on gas, explosives, and equipment than the gold justified. Wouldn't change it for the world, unless that change was hitting the mother lode. Digital mining? Same deal. It's what I enjoy. My monetary profit is secondary to the emotional profit. It's worth it. I AM making money. Not a great deal at the moment, but enough to justify it from an accountant's perspective. I'm not an accountant and don't give a tinker's damn about their bean counting perspective. Prudent men do nothing, ever. It's another word for "coward". |
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I received my miner today and I am looking for the password to log into the client portal. Anyone that got a miner know where to find it. I thought it might be on a sticker because there is no documentation inside the package.. They did include a Ethernet cord though, that is a first for me when getting mining equipment from a manufacturer. Although an extra board would have been nice! The case looks super sleek, like a lyan li case or however you spell it. It is a lot lighter than i would've thought as well. Let me know about the password if anyone knows where it is...
Maybe here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=403223.0Or ask him  Contact Jim at AMT, but last I asked the portal was broken. It's supposed to be fixed. I'm not sure I'm allowed to give out the passwords I was given, but they didn't work as of a few days ago anyway I'll ask again. I've been futzing with the settings for a few days now, though, so I can probably help with any issues you run into. Have you logged into the machine yet? |
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Thats good ...but why my last payout from Eligius stays Immature  Because you're paid directly from the mined coins (most secure, as pool doesn't get to touch your coins) and mined coins take 120 confirmations before they can be spent (immature). This is normal. Ok it gone 1 day to confirm - does it depend on how much btc must be confirmed ? Also why we have 0.04 payout step when even at 0.08 it still not going in payout queue - btc rises - delay stays 5-6 blocks Newly minted coins do not mature for 120 confirmations. About 20 hours. As to the payout queue, it's designed so that it does not pay out until the pool has mined enough to cover it, regardless of your threshold. You'll get your coins. Besides, BTC is down in the exchanges right now anyway. What's the rush? O tnx ... its not a rush - im new thats why ask lot No sweat. I've only been mining a few weeks myself, though I've been involved for a bit over a year. I watch the prices pretty obsesively myself, but this is a slow downtrend, nothing major. It'll likely correct upwards. I think there are a couple of things driving it down right now. The article mentioned in another post talks about the Chinese new year, which makes sense, but also we just had a difficulty change. There is always a bit of a selloff from miners just before a diff adjustment, and I think this is partially good sense and partially emotion. If you've made enough to take profit and buy more equipment, then it's wise to do so before your mining income drops, so you try to time it as close as possible. If you panic, you'll sell too low. Bitcoin is young. Five years old, to be almost exact. In that time it's gone from being worth literally nothing to (briefly) over 1000 USD. a drop of 80 bucks over a week just before the difficulty change is not unusual, nor worrrysome. If it drops like a rock, it's still not worrysome to me. I look on that as a buy opportunity. If I'd had some spare cash when Silk Road got busted, I would have made a LOT of money on the buy opportunity. It dropped damn near in half, but rebounded within days. I've now tried three of the major pools. Couldn't connect to ghash.io, no matter how closely I followed their instructions, so they're out for me. I found BTCguild made me less profit and was just not my flavor. Eligius is the best pool out there to my perspective. As I get more equipment, I may point some of it elsewhere to see what happens, but this is my main pool. I like Whizkid, got no problem with Luke-jr, and the pool works good. Even when the stats and payouts were broken it kept working. If a quick buck is all you're after (nothing wrong with that), you might consider mining an alt and trading it for btc. I'm going to try some of that come february, though it's more for fun than for profit. (I aim for both, of course). |
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Thats good ...but why my last payout from Eligius stays Immature Because you're paid directly from the mined coins (most secure, as pool doesn't get to touch your coins) and mined coins take 120 confirmations before they can be spent (immature). This is normal. Ok it gone 1 day to confirm - does it depend on how much btc must be confirmed ? Also why we have 0.04 payout step when even at 0.08 it still not going in payout queue - btc rises - delay stays 5-6 blocks Newly minted coins do not mature for 120 confirmations. About 20 hours. As to the payout queue, it's designed so that it does not pay out until the pool has mined enough to cover it, regardless of your threshold. You'll get your coins. Besides, BTC is down in the exchanges right now anyway. What's the rush? |
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I heard the same chips this week, already vetted a few board designs with pre-order chips earlier from Jan with a few partners, it's looking more likely that late January ship date is becoming real ... I have 2 x 1.2's from early Oct order, so expecting it to be in one of the first shipments. If I do get it at the end of the month, happy to get pictures and maybe a video of it running, I'm no videographer so don't expect anything better than Biomech's great video effort ;-)
Hey! I resemble that remark... I have a better camera now. Next time I have some time, I'll do a better video |
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While I knew that you could donate manually to the pool, I didn't know you could set it up to take a fee. Someone above had posted that info. Can't recall who it was, but you know who you are, so thanks! I set it to 1 percent, 33/33/34 respectively. Whizkid, if you do the accounting as I believe you do, and think it would work better set differently, please tell me so and I'll change it accordingly. I would encourage everyone to do the same. It's on the configurable options link under the "my eligius" tab. This is a great pool, and deserves to be supported. 1 or two percent is cheaper than most other pools, and if enough of us do it, wk can quit his day job |
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So no stats mean no track so scam. I free to pay opinion 100%
This sounds suspiciously like another poster.... hmm... Until I see stats, I say my 500BTC come form anybody, no proof you pay out It ain't working. Your Engrish is better than his  |
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Here and blocks ceased to be displayed in statistics Hashrate: 1,668.15 Th/s Round Time: 35:04:20 Round Shares: 20796011706 Round Luck: 8.6% 281514 14 minutes 158 3,993.74 BTC BTC Guild 96.91 281513 17 minutes 167 1,528.61 BTC Eligius 127.54 281512 16 minutes 135 3,890.15 BTC GHash.IO 117.73 Hashrate: 1,668.15 Th/s Round Time: 35:04:20 281513 17 minutes 167 1,528.61 BTC Eligius 127.54 How to understand it? "Pool is up and running! Please continue to mine as normal. Stats are stuck, but shares and earnings are tracked properly. Stats and payouts will be caught up as soon as possible! -wizkid057 Forum thread: Updates here" it should be red and blinking I know that was said in jest, but I actually think it's a good idea. |
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payment received, right as rain here.
However, pointed my miner back at Eligius with a different address (I'm using electrum now, didn't feel like jumping through the hoops to import an address...) anyway, stats are saying it's not in the database, but the pool is connected correctly and accepting shares. Can I assume this is just the backlash from all the mess?
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Purgenum on the sweet ! Any game with purses strain, problems with the statistics and the more payments, am I right ? So ghash also stop working... nothing to tell, jumped to eclipse...
For users of your intelligence level, I recommend dogecoins. Memes are probably closer to your native language. Hey, you damn scammer! I've been mining your pool for the last few days, and you only paid what you said you would. What the hell is wrong with you? (lol) Sarcasm aside, I actually like Eligius better, but anyone calling the guild a scam is selling something. I don't selling anything, i just want to understand what's going on ! Without going into specifics that I don't have access to, I can break it down. Maybe not to your level, but here goes. (observers, yes, I'm feeding the troll. I've never had an issue with stepping into a battle of wits with the unarmed). One. Somebody mounts a deliberate Direct Denial of Service (DDoS) attack at a vulnerability in the pool. It apparently fails for the most part, but knocks part of the system out of whack. Two. The system administrator (Whizkid, since you clearly have NOT read what went previous) puts the pool in failsafe mode. This suspends stats and payments, as they are vulnerable during the problem. Three. Problem seems deeper than first thought. SysAdmin notifies everyone on this very thread that it will take some time. Four. Problem seems easier to solve by migrating to a new server. SysAdmin AGAIN notifies everyone. States several times that when all is copacetic, manual payout will be done to catch up the queue. Five. He encounters more problems. He works on fixing them. Again keeping us updated. With, as you noted, over a million dollars worth of BTC in his care, it behooves him to NOT be in a greater hurry than necessary. Me, I'd rather wait than get shafted due to sloppy repairs. tl:dr (this is specifically for YOU) Shit broke. The expert is fixing it. He's known to be good, and known to be honest. You're an illiterate idiot. It's actually Distributed Denial of Service, meaning it's extremely difficult to avoid as it's difficult to filter good/bad traffic based on source's alone. Oops. I was thinking a ddos directed against a suspected flaw, and kind of got it jumbled. My bad. I stand by my tl:dr though. |
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Eligius still don't pay and nobody know when he starts pay.
Reyhs: You're an idiot. I think it's time I close this thread and start a new one self-moderated so I can filter crap like you. In any case, everyone DOES know when they're getting paid. Learn to read.And I also offered to directly pay you your balance. Why are you still here? Get off of my pool. Who said that the government does not care about the disabled? For the mentally retarded, for example, all produced: and movies and music, and books. I'm not the ONE I'll give you this much: You are good at pushing buttons. counting before and after registering, I've been reading this forum for about a year and a half. I don't think I've EVER seen wk tell somebody to get off his pool. But I agree. You're diluting my earnings, assuming you are actually mining. Oh, get the snip. You are FAR too stupid to be allowed to reproduce. |
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Purgenum on the sweet ! Any game with purses strain, problems with the statistics and the more payments, am I right ? So ghash also stop working... nothing to tell, jumped to eclipse...
For users of your intelligence level, I recommend dogecoins. Memes are probably closer to your native language. Hey, you damn scammer! I've been mining your pool for the last few days, and you only paid what you said you would. What the hell is wrong with you? (lol) Sarcasm aside, I actually like Eligius better, but anyone calling the guild a scam is selling something. I don't selling anything, i just want to understand what's going on ! Without going into specifics that I don't have access to, I can break it down. Maybe not to your level, but here goes. (observers, yes, I'm feeding the troll. I've never had an issue with stepping into a battle of wits with the unarmed). One. Somebody mounts a deliberate Direct Denial of Service (DDoS) attack at a vulnerability in the pool. It apparently fails for the most part, but knocks part of the system out of whack. Two. The system administrator (Whizkid, since you clearly have NOT read what went previous) puts the pool in failsafe mode. This suspends stats and payments, as they are vulnerable during the problem. Three. Problem seems deeper than first thought. SysAdmin notifies everyone on this very thread that it will take some time. Four. Problem seems easier to solve by migrating to a new server. SysAdmin AGAIN notifies everyone. States several times that when all is copacetic, manual payout will be done to catch up the queue. Five. He encounters more problems. He works on fixing them. Again keeping us updated. With, as you noted, over a million dollars worth of BTC in his care, it behooves him to NOT be in a greater hurry than necessary. Me, I'd rather wait than get shafted due to sloppy repairs. tl:dr (this is specifically for YOU) Shit broke. The expert is fixing it. He's known to be good, and known to be honest. You're an illiterate idiot. |
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Purgenum on the sweet ! Any game with purses strain, problems with the statistics and the more payments, am I right ? So ghash also stop working... nothing to tell, jumped to eclipse...
For users of your intelligence level, I recommend dogecoins. Memes are probably closer to your native language. Hey, you damn scammer! I've been mining your pool for the last few days, and you only paid what you said you would. What the hell is wrong with you? (lol) Sarcasm aside, I actually like Eligius better, but anyone calling the guild a scam is selling something. |
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