That's on them, some people don't like preorders but I'm fine with it, the way I managed to get the funds with buying and selling stuff. I can easily say my cost is nil. So technially everything I do make when I get the units would be solid profit bu even looking at the $1,867 I spent, $1,912 after bank fees. I'll break even in a month, month n  half with a bitch of a diff by the time I receive the equipment.

I havent done much warning, just talkin bout stuff like the guy lookin for BTC for kids. One person said somethin bout buying it and showing them a receipt. Then I said something about it wouldnt be hard or that person to do that, get the BTC then just go back to the store and return the items. If I get my loan great, if not then at least I tried, but unlike a lot of other people here. I dont harp on it with please please please, trust me ill pay back and all that jazz that a lot of ohers do. I'm not hard up for the loan, just would be cool if I got it.

Def a good read, but that only helps with part of the thought.

Lets for sake of argument say I'm diving by 1.4.

If I have 100gh x 4 whicch gives 400gh and I divide by 1.4 that gives 286 if we round up. However, if we divide by the singular (100gh) we get 71 if we round down.

So the question is, regardless of if we divide, multiply but either 1.4 or 1.8 or w/e. Is it done as a whole or by the power of a single unit. Since in some cases it might be 400gh with 100 x 2 and 200 x 1.

I wana say it's a per unit basis which means diff workers.

Ex.

100gh x 4: One worker at 71 since theyre all the same

Ex. 2
100gh x 2: One worker at 71 since theyre all the same
200gh x 1: One worker at 143.

See where I'm going with this ?

I ask because, using the 100gh x 4, if we set one worker to 286, thats what each unit would try to run which seems to high where as using a diff of 71. That would seem more appropriat for a machine doing 100gh.

Workin on some other things to try and get this done, but in the meantime, just givin a bump to bring it back up even if I end up needin collateral which is one of the other things I mentioned.

Either way I'm hopeful.

So what can I do to check the balance of a NMC paper wallet then, and sped em should I choose to.

I use the blockchin app on my android to monitor BTC wallet balances an even send out payments. I was wondering what the Nameoin version of blockchain would be assumingg one exists.

Ty.

Finally heh... I know this might seem trivial, but in the next update. Might you consider ormatting like I have done ?

1 BTC = $984.46 USD (24hr W.Avg)

Except in the case of the dollar sign, this could be the denomination set by the user in the one confi file. Then there's the adiion of the (24hr W.Avg)

As you saw, I hadd some confusion about why that figure was off as wwell as some others until you told me it's the weighed average figure.

Docs a busy busy person today, maybe when he's less busy he can solve a curiosity ;-p

Hey Doc, without going too many replies up... can you shed some light on this ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27062.msg3898860#msg3898860

Didnt really get the clarification I needed but ty.

So if you have 4 machines running 100gh, then wheater your multiplying or dividing it's done per 100 / machine and not the combined total off 400 ?

If fthat's the ase, then one would need a worker for each of the 4 machines.

In case this got missed, just wana be sure I'm looking a this right even though I guess you'd have to be sort of dumb to not understand take x and divide by 1.4.

I've seen other sites say to take your hash and multiple by 1.4

Ex: 10 x 1.4 = 14

I seriously doubt it's my server, there's nothing special about it, its a cloud. It runs 5 websites and a number of minecraft servers.

So we can forgo the guessing game, what can we do to see what it is, or isnt ?

Edit: In what file(s) am I lookin for the avg thing ?

Edit 2: Most of my sites have SMF installed and cookies run fine for them.

Edit 3: Not sure if this helps - http://www.eojmarket.com/php_info.php

Just tried 10 times in a row to no avail, in two browsers.

So if I wanted it to be as close as possible to whats shown on Gox, what do I need to do ? I assume something will need to be rewriten to pull from their API directly ?

Did as sugested in previous reply and this as well. Admin pass seems to take now, but upon hitting the submit button the admin login page just sorta refreshed back to the enter password screen. Is that what its supposed to do ?

I suspet this is going to come back down to me missing something since I didnt wah the full install video, but as I said before. I'd rather wait for the updated video before proceeding.

Edit: Just ran /goxgrab/mtgox_update.php manually, shows price now as $763.31 but the price on gox itself is $843

Tried it in two different browsers with cookies enabled to the same effect... wrong pass. I went ahead and changed it from the default, will wait the 2hrs and try again and will post back here.

As far as admin goes I keep getting wrong password, using the set default admin. Didnt chane it yet because I wana get stuff running before I start changing settings since there's no point in changing too much til I go live.

Maximum number of login attempts exceeded. Please try again in 2 hours.

As for the rest, will look in to it. I stopped watching the youtube video about 6 minutes in to ome here and post about the admin issue.

Edit: Comee to think of it, I'd rather wait to continue on that video til you get the new updated one up that you mentioned you were working on, foret where I read that.

Still setting up but I got it to the poin where I have a running index.

Noticed this top left...

BitShop v0.9.5b (fixed)
Exchange rate (mtgox):
1 BTC = 187.0525 USD

1) How do I add the $ preceeding the value of BTC ?
   1a) 1 BTC = $187.0525 USD

2) When the prices bet back in to the thousands, do you use number_format() so values display as 1,000 and not 1000 ?

3) Would really like to see the 1 BTC = thing update automatically from the MT Gox API or w/e exchange is used.

4) Default admin pass admin doesnt seem to let me get in to admin area.

Ty.

Its a business, it's already public knowledge, so by keeping it a secret here isnt protecting it... it's just making things fishy. Besides, something of the nature to which you were looking for would be best suited somewhere that can get you the voulme your after. By posting ghere, your just hoping to get some dumb shmuck who just smoked a really good batch of weed that doesnt come off his high for a week. Don't get me wrong, im not trying to bash you even though it does seem like it but even you have to admit that your "proposal" is fishy coming from a guy fresh off the noob boat. By that I mean Junior memer with 3 posts, activity level of two and just registered Dec 6th.

My investment right now now is less than 2 grand so it's not as big of a gamble hence my stance even though yes I could go belly up still.

Edit: Just checked my excel sheet, I'm all in right now at $2,225 for 600Ghs but that includes money for other mining stuff. The atual equpment costs were $1,912.

Like I said I don't know alot about startum or getwork but that is good to know.

Good to know but I wouldn't be anywhere near that for a while.

Like I said when I mentioned 2.5Th it was an example. I am still curious though that ragardless of whether it's now or 10 years from now at what hash rate might one look at gigabit internet. I assume from whats been said so farr that it would be more of a business thing running in the Ph.

Part of that is the whole bubble thing, dont know what will happen at any given point. I'd rather mine he BTC and then spend out of that whatever I have to for whatever I want. If the bubble grows I gain more value for what I have mined. If the bubble pops well you have the opposite. I just feel mining for me any way is better than playing the market with buying direct.

I have 600Ghs coming soon and plan on upping to 1Ths at some point and continuing to increase over time. So please don't assume what I can or cannot afford. The question was very simple and doesn't seem to have been answered yet since what I specifcally asked was at what point might a gigbit internet connection be required in terms of hashrate since the higher the hash the more data you have coming and going.

So, if someone can put a realistic number on this that would be great.

Ex. I would think that once you hit the 2.5Th mark that you might wana start thinking about gettin a gigabit connection.

Also, getworked is being phased out for stratum from what I hear but I dont pretend to know anything about stratum let alone getwork. I don't plan on hosting a node for the good it bitcoin, so as you said yes, this is about mining.