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2121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Finally Impeached Today on: January 16, 2020, 11:01:31 AM
It is finally official.

"As expected, the House of Representatives officially voted Wednesday to send the articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump to the Senate and approved the House’s impeachment managers.

The vote to send the articles of impeachment to the Senate and approve the impeachment managers was 228-193."

Gee what were they voting on if it was already official? I guess you tards demanding that it was already official before today were wrong. That is unless you still want to argue this vote they had today was totally meaningless and arbitrary.

"House Delivers Articles Of Impeachment To Senate, 'Trial' To Start Tuesday"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pelosi-announces-house-managers-trump-impeachment-trial

@TECSHARE and that’s how you waste tax payers money first build a trial very well knowing that it has no merits and it’ll not remove Trump from the office, and then follow the rules to show Americans how much they love following the rules. Though we all know how this will end with Republicans crushing them in the senate, but I’m excited to see the drama unfold during the trials and post the trials.

The real waste of money was the unending baseless Russiagate investigations as well as the prolonged impeachment show process in The House. The problem is not the rules, if the rules were actually followed none of this would have happened. Now The Senate has control of the process and they are about to carpet bomb the Democrat party with a plethora of damning evidence and witnesses just in time for the 2020 election Wink
2122  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Finally Impeached Today on: January 16, 2020, 09:17:33 AM
I mean it was official, it just hadn't been sent to the Senate yet. To be honest I had no idea that they had to vote to send them over to the Senate, was pretty sure that the only reason they hadn't been sent yet was because of Pelosi.

But then again, that's government for you. Bureaucracy and a ton of rules is a hell of a thing.

Transmission to The Senate is a constitutional requirement for impeachment is it not? It was not legally completed until it was transmitted to The Senate. Take 2 seconds to think about this. Why would they hold yet ANOTHER vote on it if it was not a technical legal requirement for this process to move forward? Either this vote along with transmission to The Senate was a prerequisite for the legal process to make it official, or this vote was completely arbitrary. You might negotiate and write up a giant contract, but until you sign it, under the law it is just a piece of paper. The same applies here. It is not done until it is done. Now it is done. Now the real fun begins, and the hunters become the hunted Cheesy
2123  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump and Protestors something doesn’t feel right!. on: January 16, 2020, 09:11:07 AM
I suppose so. I suppose the only thing that covertley looking into China does is -- if the Chinese found out they're going to be able to change the narrative from looking into the abuses of China on HK protestors into -- look at what the Americans are doing, they're trying to hurt CHINA. All that does is feed into anti American rhetoric.

I agree with the portion about China should've been reigned in a long time ago. It's disgusting that we went this long without actually doing anything about China. They've broken law after law and deal after deal, and politicans turned a blind eye because they knew that the $$$$$$ was in just letting China do its thing and that MAYBE someone down the line would fix the problem. That leaves Trump in a position where -- you're damned if you do (fix the china problems) and you're damned if you don't.

I'd much rather have some short term pain then long term pain for the next generation of children. I think we should extend that line of thinking into other things such as the DEBT.

The only way the debt is going to be fixed is with a total global economic reset and tearing down The Federal Reserve, and Trump knows this. He is preparing us for this inevitability. The only question is how hard is this reset going to be. He has been preparing us for this moment by incentivizing domestic industry so that we can be more independent, as once the system ends the US will lose the distinct advantage of being home to the printing press.

What does some one do just before they file for bankruptcy? They max out all of their credit cards and take on as much debt as possible to get a hold of anything they think they can keep, then they file. Trump knows the debt trap is an inescapable black hole, but it is also one based on an odious premise of inflationary fractional reserve fraud. Right now he is maxing out the credit cards to get all we can out of this sham system before it collapses under its own weight. These are all strategies Trump has lots of experience leveraging. People suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome often point to his bankruptcies as failures, but actually they are evidence of his economic genius, because if done correctly bankruptcy can lead to a net gain. It is only a matter of time before the current economic order fails. The orderliness of this collapse is still yet to be determined.
2124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Virginia Governor Declares states of emergency because of GUNS RIGHTS RALLY on: January 16, 2020, 08:53:02 AM
Virginia is going to be the dry run for nation wide gun control. The government has no respect for any of our rights. The ONLY thing preserving ANY of our freedoms is that the US citizenry is armed to the teeth. "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

Upon review of more information here: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/northam-declares-state-emergency-virginia-because-armed-militia-groups-plan-storm-capitol

It is clear this "state of emergency" is an unconstitutional and tyrannical act aimed directly at preventing law abiding gun owners from protesting and exercising their 2nd amendment rights. This is just an back door way to shut down the protest by making it "illegal" for the protestors to show up with firearms, the entire purpose of the demonstration. This dipshit is playing with fire. Much like the rest of the left L.A.R.P.ing revolution, eventually if they pretend long enough they are going to get a real one, and they won't end up on top.



P.S. Stop legitimizing self moderated threads in Politics and Society. Only weak minded simpletons need to curate political discussion, and as far as I can tell you don't even use it anyway. All you are doing is giving legitimacy to the toolbags who use it for censorship.
2125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What news sources do ya guys use? on: January 15, 2020, 11:59:59 PM
"#CNNIsTrash Trends As Pushback Grows Against Oligarchic Election Meddling"

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/cnnistrash-trends-as-pushback-grows-against-oligarchic-election-meddling-55d11cea2796
2126  Other / Politics & Society / Donald Trump Finally Impeached Today on: January 15, 2020, 11:58:09 PM
It is finally official.

"As expected, the House of Representatives officially voted Wednesday to send the articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump to the Senate and approved the House’s impeachment managers.

The vote to send the articles of impeachment to the Senate and approve the impeachment managers was 228-193."

Gee what were they voting on if it was already official? I guess you tards demanding that it was already official before today were wrong. That is unless you still want to argue this vote they had today was totally meaningless and arbitrary.

"House Delivers Articles Of Impeachment To Senate, 'Trial' To Start Tuesday"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pelosi-announces-house-managers-trump-impeachment-trial
2127  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Localbitcoins stole my bitcoins just because I'm Iranian on: January 15, 2020, 11:15:20 PM
Why don’t you send them something else as address verification? O.O

I live with my parents and none of the utility bills are registered to my name. I only have my bank account which they don't seem to accept for some reason :/

This might be why. They might be using credit agencies databases to verify your KYC info. See if you can ask your parents for help to use their bank/address info to fulfill KYC obligations if you can. With the new round of sanctions against Iran they probably are crossing all of the Ts and dotting all of the Is as far as regulations.
2128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump and Protestors something doesn’t feel right!. on: January 15, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
Do you think he was behind last year's protest against the Iranian government? Coz if he was then all progress was erased when he had Soleimani killed. Now support for the gov't in Iran is stronger than ever, or at least they no longer hate their gov't as bad as they do America. So no, I don't think Trump was behind that, it's clear that the cause was economic (hence why the mob targeted banks).

Same with Hong Kong, we know the protest arose organically, at least that's how it appears to me. Tension has been building up and the proposed bill that would have allowed HKers to be sent to the mainland for trial was the final straw.

If the US wants they should first start selling democracy in Saudi, the largest sponsor of religious terrorism.


That's cute but I doubt it'll ever happen. All this terrorism benefit the US government. In the homeland it allows them a justification for surveillance and abroad it gives them a reason to intervene.

I think your estimation of the public support the Iranian citizens have for their government is WAY off base. The sanctions against Iran alone have done their job and have sowed much discontent for their leadership. When the economy isn't doing well the government gets a lot of resistance, this is nearly universal. Also I think you are underestimating the modernization of Iran and their citizen's desire to be more moderate. There are lots of signs of this if you bother to look. While I think the Western intelligence agencies certainly are playing a role in the unrest in Iran, it would not be possible if there was not a large popular push for it.


He absolutely could and would dare to openly support the Hong Kong protests, but he doesn't have to. The simple fact that China knows a crack down on Hong Kong would be bad optics for them as well as hurt them at the negotiating table with the US is already quite a bit of help to them. I recently heard some one float the idea of inviting Hong Kong to be the 51st state in the union. I think that would be a great idea Smiley

I mean there's also the fact that if Trump had done such a thing, stressing OPENLY here, then he's not going to get a trade deal with China and the market isn't going to be happy with that. The market isn't a big fan of uncertain and change in regards to trade laws, regulations, etc.

While I do want the HK protesters to be supported by Trump, I think the best way to do it, to ensure stability, is to support HK covertly. Do it through the intelligence agencies.

I disagree. The scenario I outlined in a lot of ways is a lot more hands off. If he was covertly meddling with China, not only would that piss them off more IMO, it would be very bad optics for him as well as de-legitimize the Hong Kong freedom movement. This would also serve to sow even more distrust from them than they already have being a highly suspicious people living in a low trust society used to saying one thing and doing another. This atmosphere is antithetical to a productive negotiation.

Him mildly and publicly supporting Hong Kong could even be interpreted by China as being a political move to satiate the US and world population as long as he is not too hamfisted about it, which he hasn't been. Additionally him giving a bit of a prod over Hong Kong but not full on addressing it is in a lot of ways a power move that creates a lot of leverage for him to use over China in the trade negotiations.

In effect he is saying I could make this much worse for you, and you really couldn't do much about it other than what you are already doing. IMO he has been handling China expertly in spite of the media critique of his approach to the situation. China is hurting a lot more than is publicly being disclosed over the pressure he is applying. This is not without cost for the USA of course, but IMO this needed to be done 20 years ago, and avoiding it would only seal our fate and slowly allow China to start taking control here in the US. This is not just about the economy but preserving our way of life. The interesting thing too is even though short term this is somewhat painful for the US economy as well, longer term it is pushing development of domestic industry putting us in a much better strategic position and creating a more independent North American industrial base.
2129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: January 15, 2020, 05:02:55 PM

The original thread was already "mysteriously" deleted by a mod.
2130  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: January 15, 2020, 02:34:04 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mike-flynn-withdraws-guilty-plea-due-governments-bad-faith-vindictiveness-and-breach-plea
2131  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] Garbage Pail Kids -Pokemon- Magic The Gathering-Baseball Cards - HUGE LOT on: January 15, 2020, 12:34:20 PM
I took some time to look up the values of the holo cards and some of the rare cards and came up with a price above. It comes out to about $0.50 per card. Thanks for looking!
2132  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: January 15, 2020, 12:02:08 PM
This guy was an Iowa field organizer.

He was making ~$150 a day to organize volunteers to go knock on doors in Iowa.  Basically show up in the morning and give each volunteer a route (that someone else figured out).  Volunteers come and go, so paying someone to do the basic management is more efficient.  (They would be trained by someone higher up)

He was probably interviewed and hired by someone 4-5 levels below the actual campaign manager (Faiz Shakir).

Oh, gee, I guess that makes it ok he is advocating for terrorism then. The left are quite fond of imagining themselves as revolutionaries and anyone right of Mao as being Nazis. This isn't an outlier.
2133  Economy / Digital goods / Re: -=< STEAM GAMES MYSTERY BOX >=- on: January 15, 2020, 10:15:18 AM
Give it a spin! You will usually get at least twice the retail value of what you spend! All my games are bought by me personally so there will be no chargebacks due to games obtained through trades that came from fraud. PM me and get gaming now!
2134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: January 15, 2020, 09:37:48 AM
Project Veritas is a very well respected and legitimate source. It is only "fake news" because the work they are doing has been so absolutely devastating to corrupt organizations.

James O'Keefe is a joke, imo.  PV makes cable news (from Fox to MSNBC) seem totally unbiased without any agenda (which is obviously not true).  

They found a drunk Bernie Bro and baited him into saying a bunch of stupid shit - red meat for alt-right blogs like zerohedge - but that's about it.

Like I said, people like you just find it convenient to dismiss it as "fake news" because it is so absolutely effective and crushing to your preferred narrative. That was a Sanders campaign manager field organizer on video advocating for political violence, also known as terrorism under federal statutes. TIL drinking turns you into a terrorist. Who knew...
2135  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: January 15, 2020, 09:35:08 AM

No one wants equality of outcome so lose the strawman.  He simply said more equality and meant less inequality.  Its a sliding scale.  No one wants to strive for equality of outcome but that doesn't mean we want a system that accelerates inequality of outcome until a few people own everything.
  Those are the two extremes of the spectrum.  Socialism is about installing a floor where everyone has access to basic necessities.  We don't want to put a ceiling on how much anyone can earn. With that said, we do want policies that have a secondary consequence of affecting how fast someone like Bezos accumulates wealth.  Bezos having lets say 20billion instead of 120 billion is far from "equality of outcome"

Surprise surprise. More shifting of definitions form Captain Postmodern. Communists and socialists ramble on about "equality" all the time, so save the act. Is the part in bold even in English? What the fuck are you trying to pull out of your rotting cranial cavity here other than jibberish purposely intended to obfuscate the situation?

Oh you don't want to do that? [Immediately then explains how you want to do that]

This is why I have zero respect for communists and socialists in general, but especially you. I find it absolutely revolting and it turns my stomach you might actually be in a position to be "educating" people. You are doing your students and the world at large a great disservice. You don't have logical arguments, you have rhetoric, sophistry, and mental gymnastics. Literally nothing, not one word of what you said makes any sense or has any basis in reality. P.S. Jeff Bezos isn't a policy position.
2136  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: January 15, 2020, 09:12:14 AM
"'Gulags Weren't That Bad': Sanders Staffer Says Trump Supporters Will Need To Be 'Re-Educated In Camps'"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gulags-werent-bad-sanders-staffer-says-trump-supporters-will-need-be-re-educated-camps
gotta find a way to avoid these fake news websites.

Project Veritas is a very well respected and legitimate source. It is only "fake news" because the work they are doing has been so absolutely devastating to corrupt organizations.
2137  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: January 15, 2020, 12:33:14 AM
"'Gulags Weren't That Bad': Sanders Staffer Says Trump Supporters Will Need To Be 'Re-Educated In Camps'"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gulags-werent-bad-sanders-staffer-says-trump-supporters-will-need-be-re-educated-camps
2138  Other / Off-topic / Re: This is my 10000th post! on: January 15, 2020, 12:32:51 AM


For future reference.
2139  Other / Off-topic / This is my 10000th post! on: January 14, 2020, 08:02:30 PM
That is all. Carry on.
2140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What will happen when people realise that the world is cooling and not warming? on: January 14, 2020, 08:00:08 PM
It is not known for certain on whose side the truth is and whether there is any truth here at all.
We have as close to a universal consensus among scientists as is realistically possible, given that there will always be some who are paid off by the climate-hoax lobby, mega-rich oil firms etc. Climate change is real and ongoing and caused by human activity. There is a mountain of evidence as linked to previously.


Remember how it used to be possible to smoke on airplanes, a cigarette advertisement advertised by doctors! And many other examples.
Remember how the entire continent of Australia used to not be on fire?

Always consider what someone's motivation could be. If you work for a cigarette company, or if you're a doctor conducting a study that is funded by a cigarette company, the likelihood is you'll find cigarettes are safe. If you're independent and have no covert interests, you'll find they are dangerous. Same with climate change. Same with everything.

https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/australia-fires.png?w=800&quality=85[
https://time.com/5753584/bushfires-australia-catastrophic-fire-alert/

Of course there are no interests willing to pay off and pressure scientists to push your anthropogenic climate change theory right? Of course not! This is where you claim there is no financial incentive to do so, and where I spank you with the revelation of the tremendous amount of money and control to be gained by pushing this farce.
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