It depends on how many posts you make, I guess. If you don't usually do many posts, you might want to look at a campaign that pays for a fixed amount of posts, usually something like 50 a month; these tend to pay better, but you only receive payment for those 50 posts. This campaign on the other hand pays per post, with a high maximum limit of posts; so if you usually do more than some 70 posts a month, then either this or FXO is probably more profitable.

Take a look at this thread to get a better idea of what each campaign has to offer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0.

I didn't mean to say that your posts were in any way bad, nor did I try to compare them to mine; I just meant to say that anyone could easily tell of your intentions to join another campaign by looking at them, so there was no need to beat around the bush, so to speak. After all, everyone else signed in this campaign is probably thinking the same thing already.  

That's certainly an interesting idea; if you are lucky enough to refer a heavy spender, I'm sure those 25% will pay far more than the sig campaign. 

On the other hand, sig campaigns don't depend as much on luck, so I suppose most will prefer not to take the risk.

That is a good point. It makes sense for campaigns that pay for a fixed amount of posts, and in that case it serves as a maximum and minimum amount. I can only guess that for campaigns that pay per post however, it is either a residue of previous times when the forum rules were different and they wanted to ensure the participants were active, or if it is just a way of saying that if you don't post at least that much, you're not worth the tx fee. And they all have a maximum amount, I think; it's just that in the race to see who could pay more they got carried away and the limit is too high for anyone to actually reach it (3000 posts a month for Ritz for example).

It isn't? I thought it was the newly discovered Neuland.  

As for me, and like most others here, I spend most of my day on the internet; certainly over 12 hours a day, with some exceptions.

You forgot to include the alt text for that comic:

So, would you be willing to use escrow with this, perhaps by sending in adequate collateral? Otherwise, no one is going to trust you.

Regardless, they now have the money to go through with more rigorous tests like they planned, and potentially even start the project on a small scale. I guess we'll find out soon enough how well this will work. 

Just a little more and you'll be using Lynx. Keep up the good work. 

That would be a considerable annoyance, and to be honest, I don't see how it would solve the problem; the bots would be unable to post as often as they do, but you'd still get hit with most of the spam.

EDIT: I guess you could ban users who repeatedly failed the test, but that seems extreme (and with the potential to affect real users). On the other hand, maybe simply flagging those users for closer check, could help find the bots a little quicker.

Wow, they are currently at $1,256,771 raised, out of the $1,000,000 they requested, and there's still 6 more days to go. Not bad.


I read an article today about that; it goes into how other campaigners have in the past been bought off by large companies, leaving the initial investors with little or nothing to show for their support, and how that could be avoided: http://falkvinge.net/2014/05/26/solar-roadways-please-learn-from-oculus-mistake-and-become-a-co-op/.

That's a crude oversimplification of it... so, here's another: if it is always the same person and he takes notes of everything you do all day long, you might be dealing with a stalker. Better be careful.

I think you two can just be honest about it and say that you want to join one of the other campaigns as soon as possible. After all, anyone who looks at your recent posts will know that already.

For actual immortality, I don't see how you could possibly find a way to kill yourself; it would be in contradiction to the whole concept if you could. Of course, this being mostly a "magical" attribute, as no organism has ever been found that was effectively immortal (tardigrades being close, but not quite there ), I guess there is plenty of room to imagine how this could work, and how one could get out of an unpleasant situation derived from it.

Now, something simpler, like not aging, would have some of the same benefits of immortality, plus you could still die by other means if the need arose.

That's why you can sneak in using a sub and launch the nukes from off the enemy's coast; the very short flight time will ensure there is little to no defense. This option is limited to only a few countries, though. But in relation to the anti-missile systems, I was under the impression it was mostly for show, with the system having very low hit rates. I guess part of the controversy about the missile shield installed in eastern Europe some time ago was because of this, and I remember a more recent American test that produced the same disappointing results. I suppose this hasn't really changed all that much in the meantime?

No, if you can get at them only after the fact, capture them and bring them to trial, like it should have been done with Bin Laden; no need to murder anyone else.

And in a sense you are advocating indiscriminately killing anyone who you suspect will be the next Bin Laden. And up to a point that's what is already happening with drone strikes; too bad it's poorly gathered information that ends up "killing" the phone of a suspect, plus anyone unlucky enough to be nearby, innocent or not. But again, I have to stress these are suspects that are being killed. Call me naive, but when possible and in the presence of evidence of their plans, I would like to see them captured and brought to an international court, where the evidence against them had to be presented before they were punished, instead of leaving their fates to the whims of a small, unsupervised and unaccountable group of people that gets together every Tuesday to decide who to kill next.

It could have happened that you posted the correct value of starting posts, but some of your older posts were deleted in the meantime, or a thread in which you had previously posted was deleted. This would lower your total post count, but not affect your posts since signing up to the service again.

As for whether or not this is the case, and if it is, if you will be paid for the posts, I have no idea.

No, as I said, you couldn't change the signature midterm, which is what he was caught doing. So, if you sign up to Ritz on day 1, you have to stay a month with the signature (until payday). If you change it before then, like he did, you don't get paid. But nothing ever stopped you from collecting payment from PD on the 17th, then signing up with Ritz and collecting on the 1st of the month, then signing up with PD again and getting paid on the 17th (and so on). That's perfectly fine as far as the rules stated in either of the campaigns.

Basically, what surfer43 was caught doing was trying to signup to both campaigns at the same time, and just change the sig back and forth on the paydays, to receive for the same posts from both campaigns. That was obviously against the stated rules of both campaigns.

No, neither Ritz nor PD banned anyone from doing what he was describing, that is, as soon as payday comes for one campaign, change to the other. What you obviously couldn't do was to change your signature midterm to receive from one campaign then change back to the other and get paid for the same posts.

But it could be a good idea to impose some limits on the campaign, either on the total number of participants or a smaller limit on the total number of posts one can make per week/month like FXO has done. I guess this would also help cut down on the spam a bit.

The weekly payments, as well as the upfront btc for Hero Members, are only happening during the first month of the campaign though.

As you can see in the OP:


But let's hope UpDown decides to keep this, as it really is much better than waiting a full month before payment.