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381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: October 21, 2017, 09:58:20 AM
Yes. If you cannot control yourself then answer is yes, definitely. If you can manage to control you emotions in gambling or trading then you can be good.
But if your ego and wins comes to you, you will end up in serious trouble after.

382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Another hard fork coming in October. New Bitcoin name is "Bitcoin Gold" on: October 20, 2017, 03:16:21 PM
Any wallet that will help you redeem this "bitcoin gold" after the fork?

Received mail from yobit that they will start trading in 70 hours. So my estimate is that they have something prepared for this but dont really trust them.
Search a little for anything else but think that there are some information on official site from bitcoin gold.
383  Economy / Economics / Re: New rich people thanks to BTC on: October 20, 2017, 08:02:56 AM
This is what I really believe is to be a new rich with bitcoin invest, seems simple because we need only capital, then be patient to wait so we get a huge profit. there is still a chance for us to become rich because of bitcoin.

True if someone just a month ago bought bitcoin when it was 4k he is now good for decent profit on just one bitcoin bought. Image if he bought more. Bitcoin is something that not just rich ones can be involved but anyone who have access to internet. This is good concept cuz with bitcoin anyone can make and save bitcoin and when it good for that person he can sell and have some money from this.

384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Are Now Used in Crimes on: October 20, 2017, 07:59:22 AM
Probably the most that worries government is that bitcoin is anonymous. That why they are saying that bitcoin or any other crypto is used for criminal activities. You cannot blame them cuz of that its theirs opinion on this subject. However this dont mean that all use this for that we here dont use this for that purpose, we trade buy invest. If this is criminal activity then we all criminals if government this like that.

Off curse few years back there were some lines that dark coin back then i think was used to transfer large amount of cash to US and they didnt do anything about it cuz they didnt know ho send it and for who was send. This is probably the major thing that government want to know everything who is sending and who is receiving that is why they wont accept this as future money.

385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: altcoins bounty campaigns are waste on: October 20, 2017, 06:52:35 AM
not all bounty campaigns are waste. You have to choose them carefully. Recent hedge token campaign was great in terms of campaign management and value of bounties collected. Also the campaign i am part of right now looks quite good. The guy running the ICO and the campaign is one of Iconomi DAA managers, and they had to bring 150k eur to the table of their own funds to get their position. I think that is quite a fact in terms of security and non scam regarding the ICO and also bounties about it. Keeping the long story short choose wisely and you can earn something.

You are right about that. Some can be jackpots in all the way, some even get you more then you are payed in BTC but this is hard to pick when and which one is good one.
ICOs now dictate this trend and its very hard to know and to choose the right pick in this let call this mess. We have several pop out every day and to be honest you need to risk to get some in return.
386  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin Ever Be Shutdown? on: October 20, 2017, 06:38:59 AM
One this will made this happen. No electricity. With this everything will go dark. No internet no bank transfers no tv no nothing everything is dark.
This is one of possible ways, other involves that in some crazy scenario all countries go bankrupt then maybe bitcoin would fall to or will go up so high that you could buy state for 1 bitcoin.
387  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What do you expect from cloud mining? on: October 20, 2017, 06:35:30 AM
You cant expect anything cloud mining is dead and you will make almost as with faucets right not. Bottom line is that this was more less good when it was introduced but now dont waste money into this better invest in bitcoin or try your luck in upcoming ICO you will have better income from this.
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: $6000 comming through on: October 20, 2017, 06:08:47 AM
Regards the BTC price at the moment I assume that the price will fail back to 4300$ after the fork. I believe in bitcoin and I believe it will go up again after the fork, but for now it keep going down.
Another thought is the price goes down due to the amount of people selling their BTC since they don't wanna face the fork I am not sure if that has an effect, but I will not join the fork. I will sail after it

I have just opposite opinion on this, many buy cuz they know it will be bitcoin to bitcoin gold ratio 1:1 like with bitcoin cash.
They hope that with this they can earn some free money and that they will have some more bitcoin after this.

Price movement is small and for the moment expect, 6000 will be broken after this fork.
389  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can cryptocurrency make real money disappear? on: October 19, 2017, 09:24:37 AM
What are the chances of living in a world with no actual money ?  Shocked
People everytime are mostly using real money for any transaction. I do not think that cryptocurrency can make real money dissappear if that happen what we will use to transaction in the real world and only available to transaction on internet. Although cryptocurrency very popular right now but do not mean they can beat real money.

For start it could be used for internet buying like you mentioned but this also will give multiple problem cuz then it will be what crypto to use f they choose bitcoin price variate all the time if they pick some other then most will have to change bitcoin or some other to that particular one. To create another then is also problem will it be clean altcoin or it will be eth based token. Many problem we will have with this but in time we will solved them eventually and then we will see how money is going to history, but this we wont see.
390  Economy / Speculation / Re: $6000 comming through on: October 19, 2017, 08:47:51 AM
The price of bitcoin is close to 6,000 dollars, but can not reach this mark. But I am sure that after the New Year the price will sharply rise and we will see 10 000 +
I'm a confident about this, we will see 6k maybe even more. what will happen during or after the fork this is different story. This uptrend won't be harmed so 10k here we comes.
The Price as of now have a hard time to conquer and breach the $6000 line. But we must be still hopeful for this. October 25 is a week ahead and we might see more significant changes on the price ( of course positive changes).
Between two spikes up we must rest a bit, this is why we are still beneath 6k. After fork we might see panic buying.

Yes,  saw a positive significant changes after the fallback of the price, bitcoin's price is now on uptrend and it would likely breach $6000 before or after the fork, we should really be optimistic on this changes.

More will be after the this fork. Dont expect to see this in next few days price had recovered yesterday after small drop and this is good sign that price wont go down so easily this time. Expect to see maybe even higher mark broken by this year end but for the moment 6000 is good mark point.
391  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Patience and Holding on: October 19, 2017, 08:44:46 AM
Ugh. I've lost so much potential profit by not being patient and not believing in bitcoin--but I don't dwell on it, since none of us knows what the future holds.   And that's the main reason why I don't trade altcoins.  The market volatility is insane, and I don't have the stomach to be patient in a market where you could potentially lose literally everything in an instant.

Once I get my debt settled, I'll be buying some bitcoin to hold on to.  But no altcoins for me.
Holding of bitcoin and being patient is the key to earn more bitcoin. If we know how to wait then invest today. For sure bitcoin price will going to rise again. Just be careful on next fork.

Correct. The more you/anyone hold the better will be at the end, when you want to withdrawal. Sometimes is hard to be patients when price go up and you/me/he see the opportunity to make money and try to sell but then in few day price goes again and you see wasted opportunity. Both patience and holding need to be crucial here if everyone want to get more out of this.

That's true, that's already happens to me. I've withdraw my bitcoin since I think that is already the highest rate of it but I am wrong. It goes up so high and I am wasted that opportunity.
No, you should not think like that. Too much greed can make you end up with empty hands. If you want to avoid this disappointment then try to set your targets with bitcoin, whenever you reach that target sell off or cash out your bitcoin.

I have seen many cases where people keep waiting for bitcoin to raise further but they end up with dump. So whatever you had then, just be thankful to God.

Yes, thinking that way is sometimes very bad. When I started investing with Bitcoin, even I used to be like that, which resulted in a sad mood, and often my mind was distracted effecting my life. So I was advised by my elders and I followed the same path of making a target and follow that.
I make both type of target, small period and long period. So I hold accordingly till the time I might reach the target.

This is good example you have made many have some target in bitcoin or cash when they converted. My goals is the same but when i started wanted to have 100 bitcoin now i reduce this to much less cuz price jump far from that time when i said this. So im trying to hold as much as possible and when i really need cash(fiat) then i withdrawal some small amount.

So basically best is collect or buy as many as possible cuz we will experience many price rises in future and when time is right then its time go get all out.
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Another hard fork coming in October. New Bitcoin name is "Bitcoin Gold" on: October 19, 2017, 08:23:48 AM
It looks like some people are expecting the same price action to happen as when Bitcoin Cash forked. I think the market never does exactly the same thing twice, so we may see very different price action this time, perhaps even negative and catching people unaware.

Yeah, people just look to the last similar situation and assume the same results with no regard for market cycles or other fundamental factors. Last time around, I don't think Bitcoin Cash had much effect on the market. The BIP91 signalling and lock-in ended market uncertainty around the potential BIP148/UASF chain split, and the market rallied accordingly. Bitcoin Cash just rode the coattails of that rally.

So in that sense, I don't think Bitcoin Cash serves as precedent at all. It could go either way. All I know is that Bitcoin Gold doesn't have nearly the support from big companies/personalities that Bitcoin Cash had (Bitmain, Bitpay, Roger Ver, John McAfee). And they also don't have a working wallet yet, nor have exchanges said a word about it. So I suspect Bitcoin Gold will be much, much smaller than BCH.

Support this. Also would like to add that I personally dont expect nothing from this and think it will be scam in the end. For BCH we had good preparation but for this I dont see anything except the word bitcoin gold. No big news just some rumor, with this i suspect that it will end up like big scam and many will lose coins if they invest in this.

Many rush to buy bitcoin cuz they expecting to see same free coins like with bitcoin cash but dont think it will happen any time soon or will happen at all.

who does not want to get a free snapshot without buying Bitcoingold? Many people buy bitcoin because of that, do not be too complicated to predict the coin will be better and stable than anything, because the volume that he got in the first month will prove a worthy and very profitable price portion. Support can not be done before seeing the birth first.

True many rushed to but bitcoin cuz they expect and it probably gonna be like that that how much bitcoin you have you will get bitcoin gold in same amount like with bitcoin cash. Ok some expect to see this happening smoothly but i have doubts that it will not be like bitcoin cash. For support that is something different we dont have anything to support except the name.
393  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Coming Fork(s) Safety For BItcoins on: October 19, 2017, 08:19:44 AM
If you have your private key stored, you're perfectly fine.
You can import this any moment in any Bitcoin wallet client, make sure it is verified safe. You can find a whole list here: https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet. So uninstalling won't be a problem as long as you have your private key stored. The fork can not accidentally change your BTC to BTG, the fork is a copy of Bitcoin's current blockchain which will split after 25 October. Every BTC you have now will correspond to one BTG. Both wallets will have the same private key, so make sure you import it to a verified BTG client. Otherwise your key can get stolen. A good solution for this is sending your BTC to a new wallet after 25 October and then importing the old wallet key in a BTG client. The safest wallet is just personal preference, Armory is in my opinion the safest wallet. But it is quite complicated. Electrum or Core are more user friendly.
That seems to be a prett good point to me about sending your BTC to a newly generated address after a fork, one other small point, that may or may not be practical is, if possible to avoid making transactions around the time of the fork.
Two or three days before the fork , exchange and other site, that transact with bitcoin cease to transact so we can expect transaction to slow down before the october 25 fork just like what happen last August when Bitcoincash was released

To be honest i dont think this will slow down anything. We dont have any exchange that is confirmed that it will do this as well we dont have any wallet, then main question is if this is happening in few days who will get it when there is no wallet. For bitcoincash it was well announced but here no words at all.
394  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better investement right now, bitcoins or Altcoins. on: October 18, 2017, 10:18:44 AM
Bitcoin is the mother of all crypto and Altcoin price is ruled by bitcoin trend. Bitcoin investment is made on a long term basis and it would give high returns. But altcoins are mostly pumped and dumped coins and mostly investments in altcoins are made in a short term basis.
You are right for long term investment bitcoin is very good but if you can do analysis and research then investing in altcoin is also not bad at all but need too much work instead of bitcoin as you have to watch market and read some charts for bitcoins because keeping eye on these things can increase your profit

Long term investment bitcoin for sure, short term research little all ICOs some can be very good and promising with huge income.
Off course this is risk cuz many are turn out to be scams after all but with good research you will see that it can be make good income with off course right pick on the right one.
395  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: October 18, 2017, 10:15:02 AM
Simple putted answer is yes. Early buyers (on this i mean when price was much lower in 2014) made huge profit price back then was around 200 dollars if i recall.
So we all expect to see price goes high, so is it good time to buy probably but not in small amount cuz price is high for someone and for someone is low.

Is bitcoin good investment, yes and probably the best one ever.
396  Economy / Speculation / Re: $6000 comming through on: October 18, 2017, 10:11:48 AM
The last split did not reduce the price of bitcoin. On the contrary, we saw a sharp price increase. I hope that thanks to this split we will see a very high price. And also we get a new free coin

The free new coin can be dumped, but there are risks involved. You have to ensure that you safely 'harvest' the new coin and don't lose out because of replay attack. Some people are lucky enough to dump the new coins quickly and profit.

Yes but dont expect to see this happening again. Cuz what is known about bitcoin gold almost nothing, ok if you get free coins but this time wont be that much maybe this bitcoin gold will be worth something 100 dollars maybe but this is free at the end. No wallet not a single exchange have made some announcement that they will hold them, so this will be nothing at the end.
397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can cryptocurrency make real money disappear? on: October 17, 2017, 06:33:38 PM
What are the chances of living in a world with no actual money ?  Shocked
Yes cryptocurrency will become an actual money through the help of different exchanger. So i think just earn a lot of coins and exchange it with real money. With that it can help you with your financial needs.

No in some time. Only option that can be at the moment is to be alternative value that is accepted globally and with government and bank supporting it. Without this bitcoin or any other crypto can replace or be in the path of replacing real fiat anywhere in the world. It not something that is done over night or just with slap of fingers.

398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Dogecoin. 2017 will be $ 1 in December. on: October 17, 2017, 05:26:05 PM
Attention ! The winner who invested in Dogecoin. 2017 will be $ 1 in December.

While I wish you would be right, I fear I have to disappoint you. The chance that to happen is 0. Absolutely 0.
Of course, you can continue to hope.
Dogecoin will remain for many (me included) a wonderful experiment to learn about cryptocurrencies, but price wise it was a joke... a bad one..

i think he do joke like difficult $1/doge in desember because in fact decrease the price of doge for last month
i hope it can happen although its so difficult

That wont happen it would be good to see some previous prices, that would be good for holder to see but to expect to see DOGE at 1000 satoshi or little more unreal.
Last time when DOGE was at his price was around 180-200 satoshi, if somehow comes to shis it would be major success but even if it comes to 100 that will be excellent.
Dont give much hope for it but this is reality they had good community and support and now all are in other coins.
399  Economy / Economics / Re: JP Morgan buys Bitcoin (after Dimon crashed the market) on: October 17, 2017, 05:20:55 PM
Jamie has already turned back on many of his promises. He started by stating that Bitcoin is a fraud. Then changed that to Bitcoin's underlying technology (blockchain) might be actually useful. Next he said that he'll never talk about BTC again, and the next day, he starts talking about BTC again saying how useless it is (since it's not backed by a legal institution/government). In my opinion the  man has no idea of what he's talking about. He might be good in finance, but he's old, and out of touch regarding technological evolutions. Stay at what you're good at Jam

Market and price manipulation you say one big lie to drop something that you want to buy in large amount then you say opposite and price is boom.
And you are right he dont know what he is saying and what that is even mean if he need to answer a single question that is related to crypto think that he would say to buy it.
400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Being Manipulated on: October 17, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
I think so too, it's one of the big financiers or whales, by making negative news about bitcoin and following the big selling panic, that's where the game is started by the financiers by buying cheap prices, my advice for bitcoin users should not be easily affected by panic selling.

Panic sell/buy have been around for quite some time. Many use this tactic to buy/sell bitcoin at the right moment.
Off course many follow news and make moves on what they read or hear sometimes this is good but we saw that news many times comes out late when all is over.

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