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541  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: September 11, 2017, 06:26:47 PM
BTC  can not be defeated,  many  country once  banned btc , but  all those country  re-accepted  btc  at last.   btc will  be the  worldwide coin in future.

this is already very certain ,, but in the last two days bitcoin has decreased enough to worry ,, and I think more to continue to buy bitcoin so we can see bitcoin back to the track with an expensive price ..
and this will benefit us in the future ...
The decline of bitcoin may be due to the Chinese state issue will ban the exchangers, but I also don't follow the news and how it will be now?. After this problem is finished I think bitcoin will go back up hopefully bitcoin demand will rise later.

Its only speculations war for on both sides. But china did ban ICO. Why? In China if you invest and lose you can prosecute the state and get your money back cuz of this they ban many lost a lot in many ICOs so they ban it for good. Wait for a few weeks price of bitcoin will return in same direction.
542  Economy / Marketplace / Re: how earn btc from online??? on: September 11, 2017, 06:23:45 PM
On this forum do signatures or social media campaigns for ICOs, or offers some service in marketplace. With good skill you can make good amount of coin.
On top of this many freelancing sites offer payment in bitcoin so check them to. Many ways to earn and this forum is only staring point in everything.
543  Economy / Marketplace / Re: how earn btc from online??? on: September 09, 2017, 06:26:10 AM
1. If you join this forum, you can join signature campign, sosial media campaign etc. No need money to start it, only need time, knowledge, good attitude and dont lazy  Grin
2. Trading If you have capital, you can do it. For example trading bitcoin or altcoin. Just buy / sell coin. Its simple but all of it need experience and have risk.
3. Mining Investment, but need high capital.
4. Skill If you have more skill in graphic design, you can sell them into bitcoin. You can make signature design, avatar design etc.

Yes these are the skill that you need but still its divided in some part. Here on forum you can use 1 and 4 even if you are low lever rank you can make and create good stuff here. For 2 when you gain some coin from, example 1 (mostly from ICO coins signature campaign) you can trade. Mining requires investment first in rigs then after some time you start earning after you pay your rig or rigs.

Mentions, gambling is here for some very profitable some even get much from this, and faucets of any kind are WASTE of time for any rank.
544  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: September 09, 2017, 06:18:20 AM
More like the future because i don't think in the future people will pay with cash but instead of cash all people will pay with cards and you will have a card of bitcoin and all your other coins.

It is a world of technological development as the digital coin dominates the globe. But it is still just a baseless hypothesis.

Hypothesis or Compton art or even some bigger plan but still we can speculate on this topic. Many factor and thing must be in perfect order for cashless society to exists not just to to work like we think or speculate. This isnt something that can be done in single day or one year. Think that Japan will be model for this cashless society cuz they accepted bitcoin in day trade. And any possible mistake or setback will be implement in this cashless society some day.
545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Speculating A Bad Thing? on: September 09, 2017, 06:06:21 AM
i don't think that speculating is a bad thing because as far as i know, with speculating we can make decision for our own price and with some analysis, sometimes our order can be filled or we can make profit. i admitted that sometimes i am using speculation when i am uncertain to determine the price.

True. Every speculation is based on single user and what he think that is good for him or her.
Speculation is something that individual user see as his/hers opinion the subject in matter. Was this price speculation or something else.


Speculation is an individual opinion in a topic and nothing to do with anyone. If you wanna believe in someone's speculation it's all up to you. It's not bad to speculate as you just trying to make a prediction in some matter. Yes sometimes it make something to hype and other people use this as a tool to make a chaos. Otherwise, speculation has no scientific basis and people just base it on what they seen and heard.

I think it's not a fair thing all about making speculations because making it as a tool for chaos is a big mistake, and unrighteous to all people. However it's agreeable that it has no basis of any reasons to be reliable and not a good source of informations which we can depend on how we decide on the situations in either ways selling or buying bitcoins. That sometime had caused the btc price to fluctuate even more which made other investors into regrets afterall because strong holders really invest and take risk despite of negative specualtions.
Speculating is normal, it will be fine to predict the value as long as we have our plans and that we believe that btc will pump as much as it can. Some were speculating too rude that they make fast decisions that will regret soon.
When you become to trader, you also are speculating because nobody can predict the price of any cryptocurrency exact in future. Therefore, speculating very normal with me, even I love speculating because it look like as try my luck.

True. Traders do this all the time even in the mind they speculate what will it be, but you cannon precit how it will be every time. You guess in one of many possible scenarionr or way to increase your income. Also speculating is more better after some experience in some field or for some particular coin.
546  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: September 09, 2017, 05:57:44 AM
But never quit your regular job, you never know what awaits you there.

Quite true about this this. Day job or full time job is something to be concentrate and most are using bitcoin as passive income. i this i will not count miners cuz in this situation they have more income from the ones that are here in signature and any other campaign here.
547  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin a road to 10k. on: September 08, 2017, 12:13:54 PM
It is true that the bitcoin price will reach up to 10k dollars. In your speculation, in what year?
There exists a possibility for such a marvellous thing to happen indeed. You never know what will happen it might be difficult for bitcoin to reach 10k usd per coin because people are saying that now that China has banned ICO it somehow is going to affect the future of crypto currencies, but I do think it's possible for bitcoin to reach 10k in a year .

Word that China is banning ICO dont mean anything we have seen in past that almost always they spread false rumors so that they control more and more coin. But price to 10k this year is impossible maybe 6000 or even max 7000 but that price would be hard to achieve to. First thing first crossing and remaining on price over 5000, and after that we can guess and speculate for next price change.
548  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: September 08, 2017, 12:04:29 PM
For those that buy  last week when the price fell and was dump to $1,785 can now take profit as from https://coinmarketcap.com is currently $2,750. Thank God for another blessing!
If they are holding still now probably they have crossed moon and have reached near the mars
i think this is the best time to invest and those who have invested in the bitcoin at time are very lucky to do that decision or have enough investment that they are able to make enough profit through it. at that time i also said to my father to invest and you will be very happy to do this in the end but he didn't and i think we have missed the oppertunity.

True, the ones that bought even on 1400 have smile on the face. Price went almost 4 times and that is big step.
Hopefully we will not see any downfall in price for upcoming period and for this i mean this year end. For next many predict huge pump n price but for the moment think that crossing 5000 and keeping it there is huge success.
549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Speculating A Bad Thing? on: September 08, 2017, 12:00:08 PM
Speculation is both good and bad, there is no easy way to say this but that is the truth my friends.
Speculation sometimes help pump the price of certain coin when people hear some great news about that very coin.
In the other hand, speculation may also be used to create "Fake New" to destroy or dump certain coin by competitors or big whales.

You can look in to this from both angles. And this is true its good and bad.
But this is just opinion if you look little bigger yours/mine/his/hers and in the end it will be like we want to hear it or read it. You can take this or that speculation what you want cuz in the end speculation is form of a theory without any hard evidence.

550  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: September 08, 2017, 11:54:07 AM
Have you ever wondered how would the world's economy be like in the future as a cashless society?

Perhaps, with the increased traction of blockchain acceptance nowadays, could lead to the creation of digital fiat currencies powered by blockchains that are managed by governments themselves. With this in mind, there would be no need for physical cash, as digital fiat currencies would provide many advantages such as quick settlement, global payments, full transparency, implants use on citizens to make payments, and more.

If this becomes a reality, which I'm sure that it will, it would radically transform our lives for the better and reduce criminal activity as a result of the full transparency and auditability that a digital fiat currency would have thanks to the power of the blockchain technology.

Also, it makes me wonder if cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin would exist by that time, or will they co-exist with digital fiat currencies.

Nevertheless, I would like to know your opinion about this.  Wink
The possibility of the cashless society that you are saying is 30%. I think the 30% is very small possibility because I think in the future many people will still prefer fiat than digital currency.
I don’t even think that there are 30% chances of this thing to happen. In fact it will be very much odd if we’ll see this scenario in the future. Digital currency and paper money are entirely different and had no effect on each other. So we cannot expect a society without paper money.

This may be true, but think little off the grid, figuratively speaking. It would be great to see cashless society no question about it in any way possible.
But this is just concept and maybe concept is much bigger then anything else but still would like to see this. Maybe they will test on some small country or something.
551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 07, 2017, 11:14:55 AM
There is no smart way  of gambling and the only smart guy in a gamble are the gambling owners. They lure you more by making you win with a small amount and then making you lose all because of addiction.
You will be lured if you are hungry for the money, the operators will do everything to attract people to play and they will make a profit.
That's what gambling are made for, we play and we pay and at the end of the day they will make profit to continue running their business, we can be considered as smart gambler if we have a limit and we do it effectively, we will lose but that is alright because we can afford it.
Exactly, there is no smart way of gambling since we only end up losing money unto it. Even if we limit ourselves with an especific amount of money to gamble, we will still end up losing it.
So I suggest that the only smart way to gamble is to not gamble at all or rather just stop gambling already.

Some say there is smart gambling some say they don't. This is still something that this individual, I mean gambler would know.
BTW smart gambling isn't not to gamble style, but way to go in take money and go out, well not that simple. Some play to take 20 of money they came, other play on 3 out of five wins in sportbet. This is something that is hard in both ways not to gamble and smart gambling.
552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: September 07, 2017, 11:01:59 AM
$15k Bitcoin is only 3.5X from where we are today, it is a complete forgone conclusion that BTC will hit $15k without a 50% pullback, it is written in stone. It is going to happen easily.

3.5X Bitcoin also puts the price at 1/4 AAPL stock valuation, a paltry and pathetic valuation. Ask yourself which will have a larger impact on the planet Earth, AAPL Corp. or Bitcoin? Anyone that has a clue knows that Bitcoin is becoming the world's store of value, AAPL one day will be a fragmented dream torn apart by anti-trust and corruption.

What does stop a growing exponentially $200 Billion dollar bitcoin train?

As the valuation grows the more it becomes the store of value everyone is seeking. It is the ultimate self-fulfilling prophecy. Bitcoin will hit $1 trillion before it has any serious pause, then back down to $500 billion before launching itself into the permanent history of the entire planet. Yes Bitcoin will be worth so much that every single person on this thread will be wealthy if only they can hold long enough. My guess is half of you will lose your chance chasing alt-coin wet dreams or buying a sports car with your precious BTC.

Very optimistic prediction. Its possible but think that is hard for price to go that much, how at this current price. I not saying that i wouldnt like this to happen but realistically think that price between 7-10k is quite possible for this years end and first half of next year.
553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Can be $5,000 Again? on: September 07, 2017, 10:56:27 AM
I feel that bitcoin will reach 5000$ again soon, if the number ever passed 5000$ it will be easier to reach that number again, it indicates there are alot of investors are putting the money in bitcoin and they sold the coin to get profit, but once they got profit they will be back again, and this volatility will attract traders and buyers to be more active

This month is test for this price cuz I have some feeling that even 7000 is reachable for this year, not be over optimistic and saying even this month.
5k is easy hit and score and this will be very good ni just month but this year for us all. Price is going up and down and so far Im trying to use this to my advantage and take some addition coins and its working so far. But think that we are to see another up and down for this weekend before price goes really above 5k this month.

554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 07, 2017, 10:51:47 AM
Gambling is not addicting it self.
It is the money that is addicting to us. When we are winning a nice amount we think that it can make us rich but that is not true, Gambling at first gives us profit but in long run we will lose from it. Sometimes, When a person starts losing some money he/she thinks that after losing 5-6 bets he/she will then bets and they lose all of the money. But, they will still not stop gambling. They are addicted and they can get rid of it by locking there money and using few dollars on gambling you cannot lose your addiction at once you will need time.

money is attracting people to playing gambling and because of money, people is trying to win the games but sometime they don't realize that they can lose their money too. and for the money, people willing to continue playing gambling and soon people become to be addicting person in gambling. but if people can realize that playing gambling in long term can makes them to be addicted, then they must control their emotion to pursuit the money because in the end, they only making mistakes and makes them to lose their money.

Yes possible that we can win easily money is always too tempted, even is so hard to resist that we always end up with some even small bet on something.
Money will always be key factor in gambling as well as greed, and even despair to gain fast money (in reality lose money), this is something that been in motion for ages and most of the time we lose.
555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: September 07, 2017, 10:27:02 AM
Trading is a tool to generate cash flow just like a any business, but if you understand the business of gambling, then you can easily understand the business of trading.

Many say this line "Trading Is Like Gambling". Well is it?

If we invest in Stocks, its a little like Gambling.
This reasoning causes many people to shy away from the stock market. Why is that, cuz investing in stocks is inherently different from gambling, we need to review what it means to buy stocks.

On other side, we all know that Gambling has a fixed odds system for all major games, while trading in the markets is truly unpredictable and sometimes even worst then Gambling, we all know that sometimes markets crash.

If you are able to exercise let say main factor for me in both cases and that is "GREED"  then you can do it only with focus on your trading/gambling strategy, you can profit in the market/casino/sportbet.


556  Economy / Economics / Re: List of Bitcoin Hostile (and friendly) Banks on: September 07, 2017, 10:18:29 AM
Op can you update a little.

For Hungary citizens announcement. OTP bank is know that accepted bitcoin payment not they dont, but there is a catch.
Open credit card account in this bank you can receive 2000 dollars a day max without any checking from bank and transactions are instant, with no trace that is from bitcoin exchange.

557  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: September 06, 2017, 08:27:03 AM
I'm sure fiat will still exist in the future. Not every people in this world has the money to buy a cellphone and they will buy food instead.
You can never expect to see a society having digital currency only. Both paper money and crypto currency has their own places. Yes, this might be possible that usage of paper money become less. But you cannot say that there will be no more existence of paper money.
I second your thought. It would be pretty difficult to make the world go digital in all aspects. There are millions of people who are not willing to use digital currencies even when it is latest trend in the market. According to them, digital currencies are not trustworthy. What I see in the near future is that we will be utilizing both types of currencies.
It will take developed countries almost a score to go digital and I think countries like Japan, USA, Korea etc will do so because they are ones who have legalized bitcoins. Developing countries are all at least one century behind these countries in technology so they will need a complete century or more to go cashless.

Yes. Legalization is first step. Japan made second when they accepted bitcoin as payment in every day. For me Japan solution is test to see how will it be to pay with bitcoin and for them to see if this is worth the time. Off course everything that is new requires massive speculation and fear from the new users that never use or see bitcoin as concept. So think that for this will take much more time to see some effect and some result. For fully cashless society it will take much more time.
558  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: September 05, 2017, 12:02:24 PM
Keep day job always, bitcoin is meant to be side job or investment not to be full time job (unless you have huge mining farm), focus earning bitcoin on some skill that you are good and make coin with that skill. If you are skilled programmer then you dont have to worry much, other jobs will take little more effort involved in earning additional coins.

559  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin the new gold on: September 05, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
bitcoin is new gold, I agree with this statement, the price in a matter of days can go up to 3% and never price drop until a long time. bitcoin is a new gold for the future.
Gold is a jewelry, in contrast to Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is money, and everybody is interested in money, it's like a dollar.
all hunted him and raced to get it.
Bitcoins are not like dollars rather far better than dollar. Dollar is nothing in front of bitcoins. Bitcoins at the moment are the best international currency. The amazing fact is that bitcoins are not only currency but investment as well. No other currency has this honor yet. Gold is also beaten up by bitcoins.

True on this. More and more are involved now cuz massive surge of price of bitcoin in last few month. But bitcoin is not pure gold, its ok to compare them but bitcoin is not physical and as such can be only digital gold.

Off course the more price goes up the more value will be but still dont think that its good idea to compare it to gold, think that there is much more valuable things then gold.
560  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: September 05, 2017, 10:43:29 AM
In some way we could say yes to this topic. Bitcoin is global currency, why is that, mainly cuz of high price. No one expected to see this price in such a short time, if we look from just may this year we could see almost 1000 dollar price increase in month base. Not bad for bitcoin, and this is main reason that bitcoin is going global.
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