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661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: August 10, 2017, 06:36:25 PM
I think that its bit late to buy bitcoins now as price is already above $3k so not all can afford to buy at this price so if you want to buy then better to wait for some more days and see if price falls and if it goes below $3k then that can be a good price to buy bitcoins.

Dont think price will go lower then 2800 maybe if even go down at all. Think we are witnessing new age and new high every day and this trend will continue for next few months then we will see will it price stabilize for a bit or will go down rapidly. But there is no bad time for buying bitcoin any time is good.
662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins that might survive in the future? on: August 10, 2017, 06:26:41 PM
If we are talkng about alts not token i will be surprised if any alt will appear and be real not hype.Most alts are shitcoins,hype scam coins,enough to look yobit to see all that crypto miracles

ICO is something else most dont survive more then 6 month, but for real alt most popular ones are ETH, LTC, ZCASH, MONERO, DASH, RIPPLE, and not to mention few more but on top of this we could say 10 to maybe 15 alts that will be here for long time and will remain there. This is good cuz most are here long and many are stable, good for some saving in crypto, but some follow bitcoin in price and that is something that need to be good looked when price jump to be among first to follow this and make good profit.
663  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: August 10, 2017, 04:46:19 PM
I don't think so. Bitcoin is money and not a kind of job. To earn bitcoins you need to work, and the real problem is to find work. Bitcoin can help to make easier to receive payments, especially for online jobs, on this point I agree bitcoin can help.
For crypto traders it can help too if they consider trading a kind of job, I, myself, don't consider it a job.

Agree with you, Bitcoin is money and not a kind of work, as many online jobs pay using bitcoin and people take the job to earn money through bitcoin

   We must agree with him, he elaborated this so can any one understand what is bitcoin about. I need to work to be paid, today it is hard to find
good paid work and many of us forced to work two or more jobs to have enough money to get trough the month. Bitcoin do not offer more jobs,
what bitcoin offer uneng said, easier payment processing.
   Let`s not fool ourselves and others, bitcoin can not solve problem with poverty. Some people had chance to become rich with help of bitcoin,
when it was cheap people bought and now they have a lot, now bitcoin is becoming a tool to make already rich people more richer, they can
buy more bitcoins then I can.

True bitcoin is money. Also this kind of money is only one that can be mined paper money is printed by governments and so is used according to each of them. Bitcoin can be earned is many way from working and trading to gambling.

On making someone rich with bitcoin this is so true. Nice mentioning that they most got when it was cheap, and now they enjoy in happiness of it. Who could blame them cuz they made right move in right time.
664  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: August 09, 2017, 06:10:34 PM
Keep working while you are healthy, when your income at this time from bitcoin isn't enough. If you want to enjoy faster time, learn trading and after understand, you can invest in bitcoin using savings. And you can focus on bitcoin without worrying about decreasing income.

Do both. Everything can be done i made if person who want it is capable of doing it. I have regular job i use free time to research when i have to trade and do here some small tasks involving signature and social media. Here can be done even on my regular job by sometimes its hard to be in two places in same time. Off course i think of bitcoin as a saving when I see opportunity for good investment i use small amount and try to gain interest from it. Trading is good investment is little harder cuz most ICO dont end like developers indeed to so good research is key factor.

665  Economy / Economics / Re: How long could bitcoin last? on: August 09, 2017, 06:02:54 PM
As of right now, the bitcoin price is expected to keep going up in the next 20 years. But can it last that long? I believe it's possible. But can't it crash at a random time? Like the price going down hard.
Today's society bitcoin can last longer if alot of people encourage to join. Bitcoin is unlimited to everyone and bitcoin is easy to earn so plenty of people to encourage to earn so the bitcoin now is going to be stronger and highly in price . And the price is not going to crash anymore because of this high price and users and consumer.

True. Today society is just like bitcoin. More bitcoin is created to be used by all who dont want to have any interest with bank and influence from governments. On top of that we see that bitcoin is going in right direction, for this I mean that countries are allowing bitcoin to be used in every day transaction and purchases, like we have Japan. They made first step and next year we will be hearing from more and more and by 5 year major countries will use bitcoin in every day trade.
666  Economy / Exchanges / Re: who would have thought: Btc-e coming back this soon! on: August 09, 2017, 05:45:10 PM
i'd put the odds in favor of the owners disappearing and no relaunch. but there is a definite non-zero chance that btc-e comes back in some form. russian big balls are in play here now; there may be no turning back. Tongue

whatever the case with vinnik is, the indictment wasn't very condemning of btc-e. i'd be curious to see what evidence they have to pin him as an owner and/or principal manager.

a domain is just a domain. poker site domains get seized; they pop back up on .ag or something similar. the important thing is the money. how well was the fiat hidden, how much can they move (i.e. get into crypto and USDT or similar), and was much crypto lost? this is what matters. if btc-e really wanted to relaunch, they could do so as a TOR hidden service or play whack-a-mole with domains like the pirate bay did.

I go for this to. If they have all this why they didnt relauch and return funds to owners. They had quite the amount from this market BTC LTC ETH DASH, I mean cmon if they really want something done it should be done by now. And true domain is just domain they could use another any from a to z dot something, ANN in official tread here and social media and return to normal.

Bottom is this wont be relaunched, sorry for all that have there something, myself had few ltc if i recall no more then 2-3 so hell with it.
667  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: August 09, 2017, 01:26:57 PM
Being a cashless society is simply hard, but if it's created then the ease in tracking and all other things happen and each and every user will be under the eyes of the government which is a major flaw in cashless society. Also this suits the less populated countries rather than the densely populated nation, because to go cashless everyone needs certain amount of knowledge. With little population somehow they can be taught which is quiet impossible with the highly populated nations.

Yes this could be flaw so called big eye in some lines that i have read. This could be another thing to track how much you earn on yearly bases, how much you spend, why you spend more then you earn and tons of this kind a question. But this is still hard to accomplish even on paper, cuz many still really on the paper money as paying. We have increase in use of payment card yes, but this wont bring us any motion to this happening sooner.
668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: In 13 hours Bitcoin Cash mining more profitable than Bitcoin !!FLIPPENING WARN!! on: August 09, 2017, 01:22:54 PM
price never goes up with mining and its easiness.

if anything price of BCC should come down hard when the mining becomes easier, because an easy mining means a lot of random small miners will start mining and all that reward will be dumped on the markets fast because first they have no faith in the coin and are all scared it may fall and second is because random small miners dump on exchanges but the big miners usually sell off the market.
Indeed, the easier it would be mined the easier it would really be dumped and as you said even small scale miners would really able to do such thing which is really a good thing for them and people would really just see BCC as a milking machine which can give more profits on them and theres no other than that. I wont believe on those people who said that it has potential i dont really care at all because people would really still stick to the original which is bitcoin even though mining difficulties are high but it doesnt really matter at all.

Price is going down BCC will bee active for mining for next few weeks then all will return to what they mined. This is just another attempt to mine something od greed, like OP mentioned. But lts get real will this coin survive yes as any alt with good development, but price wont go so high as it was on the start. For some its profitable for others its not, you/me/anyone cash judge if someone want to mine it.
669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Future of Cryptocurrency world on: August 09, 2017, 01:09:48 PM
The future is actually very unknown.

Some of the ICO's look promising but we just don't know if the global public will accept these technologies.
There are also a lot of ICO's which are selling air. They are enriching themselves and will probably stop updating soon.

I suggest you do the research on each project to look if it's viable or not.

I'm pretty sure about 90% of current coins will disappear in the next years.

Nobody can look in the future Smiley

I share some of your sentiments, bro. Projects using ICO should better be sure and certain about what they are entering into. Haphazardly created projects will for sure end up dead in a short while. I hope developers and the entire team of projects stick to their projects even if the ICO and all the preliminary steps have been done already. Marketing should always be there until the end.

Studying each project will really help you a lot.

I don't agree though that about 90% of current coins will just disappear in the next years. That figure is too pessimistic.

This 90% can be on ICO project that are pup up every day with some new and unique stuff. But this is 50-50 chances that you will get lost your investment also other 50 is that will regain your investment or get something bigger in return. This is main problem with ICO most dont last long. Like line from T2 Judgment day "Future is not set". Any crypto is not set and we dont know how will it effect in this future for any coin.
670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the BCC dump? on: August 08, 2017, 08:38:16 PM
Bitcoin Cash is heading to $1000, you can make much more profit in investing into Bitcoin Cash now, I suggest to invest 5-20 % of your bitcoins to bitcoin cash. If it doesn't win the bitcoin war, I'm quite sure it will become the dominant alt coin.

Have you hit your head in the wall or something for BCC to go on 1000 xaxa. This is probably worst possible coin that is invented. Ok we all get some from it no doubt but this coin is failure and on top of that when will you all learn that no single alt can come near bitcoin in price. Sold then all didnt regret single second, after all this was free money.
671  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitstamp ... all you need to know? on: August 08, 2017, 08:27:44 PM
If i recall correctly think that they are on black list, meaning that you cant withdrawal cash from then to any bank in Europe as far as I know, if something didnt change in last several months. Unless you know some bank that will be able to pay you. There were best option for bitcoin fiat transfer for most of us, but we search alternative for each country. You have topic here about it and most post here some good or bad experience https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264679
672  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the Biggest problem you have with trading / exchanging? on: August 08, 2017, 08:26:24 AM
Current problems are that btc-e is down and poloniex is having bad times with several coin, users are not happy with this.
So mainly problem are exchanges overall, hard is to find good one. And what then to keep them on exchange or to keep them on wallets.

This is individual decision. But before this speed and key factor on exchanges, lack of speed and transaction confirmations.
673  Economy / Speculation / Re: crypto and eternal september on: August 08, 2017, 08:06:49 AM

obviously crypto is a financial instrument and subject to the same human psychology as everything else, but it's also an idea and still an unfamiliar one to most. because of this its establishment may not behave in the way everyone's expecting. there might be wave after wave of interest rather than peaks and lulls.


Like mentioned you expect fall in price. Hardly. We finally put bitcoin on right track and hope that price will continue to rise like it was in may this year. Dont expect anything big to see in November only like when we experience splitting price to drop a little then rise continues to go. We will see that this year is best possible one for future of bitcoin and just that but all cryptos.
Many waited so long to see this and on top of that dont expect to see any changes, on the contrary I expect to see bitcoin go beyond any border we have in out mind.
674  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: August 07, 2017, 08:34:56 PM
A good point is that you may not even need internet to transact bitcoin. Maybe if you have the weakest of signals, that's all you need to verify a private key's balance. I think in the future, infrastructure will be much better and internet connectivity will be extremely fast, stable and available.

There is no doubt that the internet is a game changer. It is still changing our ways of life now.

I believe so too. Technology is improving every single day of our lives, helping our society grow for the better. With this in mind, I'm sure that the internet will become improved and expanded to areas of the world where it lacks the infrastructure, so that people within those regions can get a grasp of this technology.

Once this becomes achieved, then the only thing remaining would be to educate the masses about cryptocurrency use, to help bring forward a cashless society. As governments explore the technology underlying cryptocurrencies, this may not be far from becoming a reality soon.

The world will be empowered by automation, smart contracts, and improved financial settlement and security, with the blockchain all within a cashless society worldwide. Just my opinion Smiley

For technology this is correct every day we have something new and unique and in some way something that will ease our life in future years. Watches some documentary on discovery channel and they predict that by year 2020 we will have one thing for everything to be our smart solution. One device that will be our phone, PC, TV and car navigation.

So who know what will we expect in this 3 years from now. Maybe will be paying with our mind.
675  Economy / Economics / Re: it is possible fiat currency will crashed? on: August 07, 2017, 08:25:28 PM
As of now, maybe fiat cannot be crashed easily, but maybe someday it will be totally diminished and be replaced by something else. We don't know what might happen, but still i strongly believe that this is not yet replaceable even when the time comes.

What make you think that. Look what happen with GBP when they exit EU. Price of single pound went to historically lowest value since late 1880s this was a shock for them. Still they didnt recover and question is will they. Every fiat can collapse as well as any coin here on exchange. This is cycle that is always in motion only need to know when will it happen.
676  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin hits $1,600 and one investor says it could rally to $4,000 in few months on: August 07, 2017, 08:21:13 PM
This is very possible in fact bitcoin is now heading to $3500 and still continue rising...I am confident it could reach that amount by the end of this month...if it will continue to pump more investors will be very much happy...I guess that's the effect of fork since the bitcoin crash many was able to buy and now that the demand is getting higher again they need to adjust the value of bitcoin

Its quite possible that we will see this price this month. We have all right signs for it and price is on right track. This is good it will bring lot of new users to crypto world. After pump of bitcoin cash bitcoin is going up in price as predicted. Hopefully we will all enjoy and after this price may go down to stable 2700-3000 range.
677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: August 06, 2017, 06:44:00 PM
Race results from the 2017 Czech Republic MotoGP at Brno, round 10 of 18.

Marc Marquez dominates the Czech Republic MotoGP at a drying Brno, after a clever switch to the soft wet rear and then early pit stop for slicks put the world championship leader into a 20-second lead. While Rossi made same mistake as he did last year shame he could take maybe win here or podium position.

1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 44m 15.974s
2. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 44m 28.412s
3. Maverick Viņales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 44m 34.109s
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 44m 36.440s
5. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 44m 36.866s
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 44m 39.233s
7. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac (Desmosedici GP17) 44m 40.053s
8. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 44m 46.533s
9. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 44m 46.728s
10. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 44m 49.210s
11. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 44m 49.264s
12. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 44m 50.569s
13. Karel Abraham CZE Pull&Bear Aspar (Desmosedici GP15) 44m 50.671s
14. Jack Miller AUS EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 44m 54.036s
15. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 44m 56.074s
16. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac (Desmosedici GP16) 45m 0.350s
17. Tito Rabat ESP EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 45m 1.428s
18. Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 45m 9.950s
19. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 45m 39.320s
20. Hector Barbera ESP Reale Avintia (Desmosedici GP16) +1 lap
Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) DNF
Loris Baz FRA Reale Avintia (Desmosedici GP15) DNF
Alvaro Bautista ESP Pull&Bear Aspar (Desmosedici GP16) DNF
678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Bitcoin Cash overcome the original Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2017, 06:36:20 PM
Its crashing, We will see

It crashed too hard, most people dumped when more exchange open deposits for Bitcoin Cash

Lets see

Nothing will happen he is going to his right place to be under ETH and he will even go below LTC in price. He will be among few that are worth something but he will never ever go to higher then bitcoin he might not even go higher then ETH. For more exchanges this mean price will drop again and again. Who ever exchange it when all started made profit rest hope for something big.
679  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: August 06, 2017, 06:27:20 PM
Cashless society means, everything is done electronically. For now its not possible, but may be in the future.
Its risky knowing that there are lots of hackers around you. Snatchers and robbers will decrease but online hackers may increase.
Yep! Cashless society will absolutely promote hacking. I believe that electronic money should be used side by side with paper money. That would make a better society to live in. Cashless society is not possible practically. Many people are going to oppose this idea because of too many risks.

We're already largely there. Most people I know don't carry much cash, if any at all. Nobody I know uses change (coins) at all. Most people (except for day laborers and field hands getting paid in cash) use credit and debit cards instead of cash now, and I've read that some European countries (like Sweden) are aiming to eventually phase out cash entirely. Further, from Applepay to Paypal to Venmo, paying with one's smartphone is becoming the norm. Smartphone apps like Uber are plugged right into your cards. As I see it, a cashless society is not only practical, but it's where we are heading.

Its ok that most users here dont use or carry much cash we prefers more card and that is cashless. For the moment we are going in that direction more and more is done with card or payed online but still we have some part of this world that is not effect by this in any way. I mean they dont use card and they didnt hear about bitcoin. So for next year that are ahead of us we will be more and more to fully cashless society at least in part of the world where is possible.

680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: BCH (BitcoinCash) and Gambling on: August 05, 2017, 01:05:54 PM
it is just another alt coin and i am positive it will be treated as such and nothing special will ever come of it!

True. This will be just another alt and if he is lucky they will accept it with good support. If not just another alt like we all say.
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