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481  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN hits £3k on: September 28, 2017, 08:32:48 AM
My advice: Sit tight and wait for cheaper prices Wink Maybe in few weeks we will see another pullback towards 2500 level.

Are you really damn serious about what you are speaking about?
We ought to see the prices above and you are saying that it may dump down back? Don't you think that the OP should ride the current swings of the markets? I see no obstacles for Bitcoins to reach 4500 and that could give them 10% easily over their investment. They may sell and wait for November to kick in and buy back (only) if the price pulls back itself towards downside.
What? Could that be possible? 3,000 pound is not a joke! There is a possibility to kick in in November. How interesting! I guess it's not only in November perhaps until December comes. Due to the higher demands of bitcoin investors,there is a tendency that the price will keep on bloating. On the other hand,this means that others will be having hard time to sell specially when the price bloats. Fortunately,trading your bitcoin would be a good idea in that matter soon. If only bitcoin doesn't go down each time or each day,maybe many newbie investors now are lucky enough to be an instant millionaire. Still,it depends on your hardwork to earn.

This will be hard kick. They are thinking to create bitcoingold similar to bitcoincash, but this might be very wrong cuz this is planed for November or last i read late october 25 or 26 october. Price is started to go up, and many look for good ICO opportunity to be rick with minimum investment, and we saw that not many goes as full success at the end.

For bitcoin price this is always unpredictable good news is that is started to go where it was been, going up, many alt have follow bitcoin, now you might look for good opportunity to try to pick the right one and make profit.
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Another hard fork coming in October. New Bitcoin name is "Bitcoin Gold" on: September 28, 2017, 06:14:51 AM
We saw now bad was bitcoincash this wll be worse. We already had divided opinion in this and with this bitcoingold we will only make thing worse then they are.
Dont know why they want to see this happen or not but we have seen that some exchanges had difficulties with this. In my opinion this will only make bigger war with bitcoincash and bitcoingold who will be better worth more, be next to bitcoin.

This is just starting to be war between certain miners group by my opinion, and somewhere in the middle we will lose.
483  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin the new gold on: September 27, 2017, 08:47:17 AM
I like this expression because bitcoin really can be called the new gold of our days.
Yes bitcoin can be called as the gold of this time like gold its prices are also high and attracting to the investor to invest so that when that get more price one should get more profit. Bitcoin also made a lot of people rich by investing in BTC and holding it for the right time, it is more profitable than gold and it owner can enjoy its richness with sake of time.
Actually the volatility of the Bitcoin market is the main of reason makes many traders are interesting. If you compare the fluctuation price of Bitcoin to Gold, you will see Bitcoin has more opportunities make profit than Gold.
The volatility of bitcoin is the reason why people are getting into it and the gold is such a boring investment since it is not that profitable for an average investor who got a small amount to average amount of capital to invest while if you will invest in bitcoin and try to have a good timing in buying and selling bitcoin then you can easily get a good profits in a shorter period of time than holding a gold.

If you look on just profit then bitcoin is good to make some extra money cuz price is changing every day, while gold is something that is almost same price for quite some time. However they are some that consider gold much better option. Maybe main reason why people trade bitcoin cuz with small amount they can get huge rewards while with gold you cannot.

484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Bounty campaign on: September 26, 2017, 01:18:46 PM
There is certain level of risk in joining bounty campaign as some of them doesn't pay you at the end if their pre sale doesn't raise good funds so in that case you will get nothing but if they have escrowed their funds then there is nothing to worry and you will get paid for the work you have done.

That is true most end up as a disaster and scams. But if you have signature paying in bitcoin you can with social media be in all ICOs that are present at the moment. This can be good cuz are very good and some even pay more then signature (this is rare case but there was some).

Doing both is good and probably the best solution.
485  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: September 26, 2017, 01:12:16 PM
I do not agree with what you say to throw away your permanent job and have to focus on bitcoin. not me too greedy to take both but it would be better if we put our work on the bitcoin. but there is also a certain reason if we want to throw away our work like ordinary employees or honor can be fraudulent in pay mending we throw it away but if our work like civil servant mending us keep our work. Cheesy

Yes greed can be very bad factor. Focusing just on bitcoin can be very bad and maybe difficult in some aspect. But look from this perspective you have job 8 hours a day 5-6 days a week and you got payed for this, and on top of that can do 1-2 hours a job on bitcoin, on this you will have fiat and bitcoin as payment and you can use both.
486  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Japan’s Regulators Are Putting Bitcoin Exchanges Under Heavy Surveillance on: September 26, 2017, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: Fortune.com
So what happens next in Japan, which explicitly legalized bitcoin in April, is important. Exchanges there have until the end of this month to register with the FSA, which has set up a team of 30 people to examine their security practices and the required separation of customer assets from their own.

I know regulation is not very liked here on these boards, but I find it actually very positive that the Japanese Government is taking steps to protect its citizens from fraudulent exchanges. They probably took a lesson from the whole MtGox debacle.

If you want to retain your privacy there's still p2p trading. But if you're just a regular Joe that simply wants to securely invest in Bitcoin without having to navigate around potential scams then that's a very reassuring move.

I think what is worrying the Japanese regulators is the sudden influx of traders from China to the Japanese exchanges. They don't want to be party to any capital flight from China, they just want the Japanese exchanges to be doing legit trade for Japanese customers.

My thinking the same. China already announce that they ban all with crypto so Japan is possible alternative for all from China to go there and made exchange. This might be bad and will influence another drop in price cuz this in my opinion will only produce massive sell, unless US and Europe dont make some major moves and prevent this.

487  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: September 25, 2017, 10:05:45 AM
I'll do both, because I have a job that's fun even though the salary is smaller than what I got in bitcoin. But if my job is tiring, I prefer to focus on bitcoin.

That is from day job or full time job from case to case. I have more then 15 years experience in programming but my language is very specific. So i needed on my job to go on something different and that is why I did. Learn several more and now we work. Bitcoin is for me additional income try to see here and read in any my spare time that i have, and if something that i can do here can help i will do.

Here you can do anything and make not just BTC but any other coin, so I started designing BB code and it going good for the moment. Resided this ANN tread are also good in this but most of the time some more experience member in this field get the job.

488  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: September 25, 2017, 09:55:29 AM
I will not consider that income will totally be changed with cryptocurrencies in long term simply since crypto don't function offline. Crypto is largely for the educated course who know how to use Net and cannot be utilised by every person so i will not believe cashless society is achievable.
It is not only you who does not believe on cashless society, but there are many more as well including me who thinks the same. I think it is nearly impossible to wipe out paper money completely from this world.

This is possible that the number of users using paper money may decrease but even then there will be many believers of paper money.
You are correct. I believe that both the digital currency and the paper money are entirely different things. They are not directly related to one other. Both of them have their own users and investors. We can see a little decrease in the number of users of paper money but we can never experience this cashless society ever.
I will support your argument. I think that there is no need of making comparison of paper money with digital currency. Digital currency is mostly used by the ones who are having the access to internet and those who know about it, but still there are so many who don’t know a single word about it. So it is something nearly impossible to see.

Technically this is correct. Only users with internet access can use it and mine or trade it. But any crypto is revolution in some way if you look little deeper.
You pay low fees for any amount of sending no matter how small or big this is its always the same, while when you send money its based on percentage of whole amount so it variate from amount to amount. On other hand globally we still demand paper money cuz this is mean of paying everywhere. For this to be completely cashless it will demand lot of aspect not just to be internet everywhere but many other thing. Its hard to completely tell everyone that paper money will no longer be used this is just hard not to say impossible. Banks need to make first move and when they do then we can say little bigger about this cashless society.
489  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature Campaign and Reward on: September 24, 2017, 06:19:02 PM

There are so many people and friends here in the forum who have gotten paid one full bitcoin by now.


However some of the posters here are saying it's possible to earn one full bitcoin in month times but I don't believe that unless and until they provide a proof of it. Not even legends can earn that much in one month period. It could be half bitcoin but not the full one. However, we can believed in the forum to get that much money if we work hard for months. One btc is still great deal for just posting into forum and keeping it at high standard with it.


If you see the other campaigns with signature one then you can boost the earnings to skyrocket and see the full coin in a month or couple. That's because you can join many twitter campaigns at the same time and earn from multiple payments. Everything is possible if you do it honestly.


Now is very hard to get full bitcoin a month even if we calculate all possible campaign. For signature legendary can max get think 0.16 btc a month, that is far from 1 btc. If we combine with all possible social media campaign then we might come to maybe o.5 but that would be the case only if this/that user is having at least 3k followers in twitter and facebook, and not to mentioned slack and telegram. Only with this calculation think that 0.5 is possible but i didnt have that much have almost 1k on twitter but when all this combine im not even close to 0.5 not to mention full bitcoin.

So some bottom line is that now you can get 1 btc a month this is impossible, maybe I miss something here but didnt see how is possible to make that amount a month. Maybe they do programming and some other thing that are here wanted ANN and BB code then maybe but they would need to make 10-15 ANN and same amount off BB codes.
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone used EtherDelta? on: September 23, 2017, 02:33:58 PM
Good but very slow exchange. They have almost every single token but so slow on demand and most of time time error. Used but if I need to choose between ether and livecoin will pick live coin instead. Much faster then ether. However on ether there are some tokens that have bigger market cap then livecoin, so basically this is person who want to trade then decision for this. Both have good side and bad sides.
491  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Price on: September 23, 2017, 12:41:36 PM
It has nothing to do with the weekends, maybe it is just because some users of bitcoin are getting their payments at weekends, and they usually convert it to fiat to use it for their lives. It is also because bitcoin is not yet widely used in real life, in stores. And bitcoin's price dropping is because of the panic sellers who are afraid to lose money. Being greedy.

Look what happen to price in last few month every time when weekend start price is slowly recovers and every time is that same path.
Its not just that some are get payed usually is 1st or 15th but not so middle in the month.

As for greed this is something that is bound to us all people we are greedy and we will always be greedy and wanting more and more, its our nature.
492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people left their full-time employment to go into Bitcoin? on: September 23, 2017, 11:37:18 AM
The official data is certainly difficult to prove, but I'm sure the number is more than 1 million users, this we can see from the comments in forums and social media that says people full time on bitcoin.

Still think that is not good option to leave full time job. Ok BTC can offer more at the moment but this is not good for several reason, for example bitcoin cannot provide you medical insurance, in some company you have this. Some aspect need to be check before someone decided, for this is something that is extremely hard call to make.
493  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature Campaign and Reward on: September 23, 2017, 11:34:09 AM
Yes. I know it's easy for long time members to get 1 btc in the past years unlike now that it will take much longer to achieve.

Yes for example in 2013 and most of the 2014 signature campaign were payed per post and it was very easy to have almost 1 BTC per month back then, then there were so many spamming cuz of that and it was then started to ban for 1 week 2 weeks and so on.

Now with this high price dont think that even campaign managers can make 1 BTC a month even with 5-6 campaign think that this is now extremely hard. Only possible option that i could think but that is also hard is to have several alt account and that 1 be based on btc earning and rest on alt i mean ICOs and then if you got lucky to get some.



It's not fair with other members from those who had farmed account, because it violating the rules in every campaigns here. We should not aim that so fast just for that 1 btc, maybe you could save those btc you have and it served as your investments for further funds growth if price of bitcoin will increase for next few months.

But still there many in the forum doing this against rules and regulations of joining signature campaign. I noticed in Norbonne campaign manger strictly announced that he will taken out the alt account users from the campaign. Try to be skillful to earn bitcoins not with the alt account guys.


I agree many have farmed account can deny it at all, but still its hard to track and follow everything. Some even say that his/hers account is alt but very rarelly now, most are going like i mentioned cuz this is only way possible to be on main account into BTC signature and on alt to be on ICO for example, but many now want to be constructive post so this type is hard from every single day.
494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jamie Dimon bashes Bitcoin again on: September 22, 2017, 06:09:06 PM
Well he could be right about governments. They definitely like to keep their money close, and want to know where it comes from and where it goes, and bitcoin causes a very big problem for them, so if it gets to big they will act. The thing is, unless you live in a very strict country, I don't think they will say it is illegal. But take a look to Venezuela, where mining is not even illegal, and they are still chased by the police.
So for me, most countries will find other ways to collect taxes from it. Japan is doing a fine job in using bitcoins, so maybe the majority of the world will be able to act like them.

Maybe they will follow Japan, but not at the moment. Think that most wait to see how will it be with them, after all they are first to fully adopt bitcoin in every day payment.
BUt tricky part will be government in all possible way, yes, they like to keep money close but we are in technological era and almost everything is send online, maybe they are considering and trying to create some alternate or some government blockchian, have someone consider this as option.
495  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature Campaign and Reward on: September 22, 2017, 06:03:16 PM
Yes. I know it's easy for long time members to get 1 btc in the past years unlike now that it will take much longer to achieve.

Yes for example in 2013 and most of the 2014 signature campaign were payed per post and it was very easy to have almost 1 BTC per month back then, then there were so many spamming cuz of that and it was then started to ban for 1 week 2 weeks and so on.

Now with this high price dont think that even campaign managers can make 1 BTC a month even with 5-6 campaign think that this is now extremely hard. Only possible option that i could think but that is also hard is to have several alt account and that 1 be based on btc earning and rest on alt i mean ICOs and then if you got lucky to get some.

496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Which exchange has the largest number of altcoins available? on: September 22, 2017, 05:56:13 PM
Think that better question should be which one has the biggest volume on particular alt.
If you are looking for some income then try big ones if you want just to learn trading go on smaller ones.

But if you really want to know that would be hard to answer cuz almost all major one have almost all possible coin and they kick out the small traded ones.
497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: September 22, 2017, 05:46:06 PM
Every gambling game need to be analyze in some way. For example if you go sport betting let say football, then you have multiple option for betting like in some casino games. Then you need to pick what to play to see how team A play last few games and how team B play also last few games. And after this you need to place the right bet for you to win off course.

Anything you play every game need to be analyze in one way or another cuz without it you will lose all the time.
498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people left their full-time employment to go into Bitcoin? on: September 22, 2017, 11:30:53 AM
my brother quit his job because he has a steady and decent income in earning bitcoins. However, he has been doing it for almost 2 years. That being said, quitting your job or not should depend on your knowledge and experience on how to earn bitcoins. You need to analyze the situation. You need to know if your skill and knowledge is capable of generating enough bitcoins to support your daily needs before quitting your job
All those people who are able to earn good amount of bitcoins by any mean like signature campaigns, trading, gambling (not a recommended one) etc have quit their jobs as it is more easy and comfortable to earn bitcoins. In addition to that, bitcoins give more profits. I have come across many such cases.

Really this is bit mistake. Consider bitcoin as additional income not prime income. Ok this is much better way of earning and it have mass spread so far and even made full acceptance in Japan, also some countries have ban him.

Still im for keeping full time job with making additional income with bitcoin. Worked so far.
499  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin will control the world economy!!!!! is it true? on: September 22, 2017, 11:08:12 AM
Possible.

Bitcoin is something that government cant control very good option on that point, and we know that whatever government control this is bad for us regular people.
So this can be real that someday bitcoin come to the point that is ready to take over world economy but for now its not.
500  Economy / Economics / Re: China's influence on bitcoin is becoming insignificant. on: September 22, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
China's influence might be fading, but it seems like they triggered a reaction all over the world, as some smaller governments also throw their voices against Bitcoin and banksters recently also joined the hate train - first Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JP Morgan and now other banks, finance firms and economists. It's not a coincidence that it started happening after Bitcoin reached all time high of $5,000 - some people realized that the threat of decentralized currency is real and they try to suppress it while they can.

True JP CEO even called bitcoin a fraud. This is something that is better for US and Europe to control rather then China. They already ban ICO and ban bitcoin as well so i dont see any point that China will control something again. This is just some bad vibe at least this is how I see this for the moment.
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