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641  Economy / Economics / Re: Btc or Bcc on: August 16, 2017, 07:15:16 PM
Bitcoin is prime and always will be. BCC was someones bold attempt to come close to BTC in any possible way, even price but ended up with crash big one. Bitcoin is develop all the time but for BCC dont see that they have some team or even some good developer at all. This will be just another altcoin on the market and like that have shady future, it can be good after some time or it will end up with small value.
642  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: August 16, 2017, 06:48:16 PM
I agree with you OP, it would be really awesome and would just make life easier.
But i think it's naive to think that it would be possible anytime soon (probably in 10+ years maybe) because people would need permanent access to internet, have their wallet always ready so the phone/pc would need to be always charged etc  Undecided

We are some point in cashless society from some point of view. Everyone pays at least once with credit card and do transaction with same card. Off course old people dont use this or rarely use this from one angle and that is that they whole life didnt use this and they like paper as meaning of paying and giving it away to grandchildren. Dont you remember all when all grandpas give you few bucks every time. That is something that will take time. When we become grandpas we will be in cashless society.

643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: August 16, 2017, 06:38:01 PM
My speculation Bitcoin will cross 5k dollars toward the finish of the year.because step by step expanding the interest in Bitcoin.I think this year will be incredible for the Bitcoin as the estimation of it rises and it is getting known to a few people in the crypto world.Maybe the administration should begin having a dialog of the advantages that you can get with Bitcoin.They should begin discussing the consent of it to be lawful in a few nations.

We might see this price of 5k on some exchanges even this month with current price development. We will definitely broke this by end of this year, but some optimistic is to see 5 digits by end of this year is little to optimistic by me. Honestly it would be good but realistically dont think we will see this price reaching and going above 10000 this year. This price is still very far away at the current moment.
644  Economy / Economics / Re: Trading Bitcoin for real estate? on: August 15, 2017, 07:31:14 PM
Buying real estate with bitcoin is not fantasy anymore. Now this is something that depend from country to country and off course location of apartment or house depend what is on sale.
This is something that is becoming global on buying house with bitcoins. But if this continues like this you will need 3-5 to buy something good almost anywhere in the world.

Dont you all agree?
645  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: August 15, 2017, 07:26:52 PM
The  best way strategy investment for us to gain big profit, is you should try to buy some other coins then as much as possible buy a huge of it like bitcoin, Xem, maid, waves, bay, rlc and eth something like that mate. Then hold in a long term Wink
But of course not buying coins because if you're just guessing to buy new coins. Maybe it will hurt you because there are many altcoins that do not have a bright future, they only have a short lifespan at a price that is not too high, so make sure you buy a potential coin

don't be greedy , big profit means you will have to take a big risk right?

better to take it piece by piece but steady , my simple strategy are to look at the market trends , and just follow it . i mean when the market in extreme down trends wait it till the market reverse to up trends , buy position in the middle between it (down and up) , take 5% to 15% profit only!

The bigger the risk higher is the profit but also high is lost. This two thing are working together to get what one side want win or lose.
But the more that i spend time on bitcoin trading the more I am patient, and wait. Dont have need to rush in some thing now i wait and invest carefully and with no need for fast profit better is safe and slow.
646  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: August 15, 2017, 06:43:33 PM
The difference between bitcoin and real money is that bitcoin is a money used in internet while real money is something we use physically and we do not need any third party to use it as a payment.

Both are real currency I believe, the difference is that Bitcoin is decentralized and fiat/local currency is centralized. What do you mean by the 3rd party you mentioned? If you you are talking about wallets for Bitcoins, I might remind you we also have to use banks and its services and promissory note etc to do high amount exchange/transaction.

Also I want to add in their difference, Bitcoin is quite slow and costly than fiats/local money. But I believe this differences will someday diminish.

Both are real currencies but one should accept by all over the world, and one is still introducing to this world. The demand for the new currency is increased, so the value is high, but the real currency had enough supply, so the value is less. One is legal, and another one is illegal these are the difference b/w Bitcoin and real money.

Dont remember that bitcoin is illegal. There are some countries that are ban it and called it illegal for use, that percentage is small. Bitcoin is becoming legalization starting from Japan so i dont see wwhy did you call bitcoin illegal when its not. Its perfectly legal is some countries.
647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 15, 2017, 02:41:34 PM
Sport betting.
Now new season started in almost all competition in europe football leagues. Best way at least on my opinion on this subject.
Best possible way is to pick singles in quote 1.2 -1.4 for sure wins. If you have some skill then you will go for some better odds or you will play some systems that will bring you income in this.
648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 15, 2017, 01:40:53 PM
Lets look from another angle. Both win profit, yes. Both have risk, yes. Then what the catch.

Trading need goo perception and knowledge about market and stocks, from every single news good or bad. Good and right moment can bring fortune but bad bring opposite.
Gambling always same odds technically speaking, 50-50, win lose. Dont want to explain every games and aspect but you will all agree that both have risk and both made profit.
649  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: August 14, 2017, 08:00:51 PM
For technology this is correct every day we have something new and unique and in some way something that will ease our life in future years. Watches some documentary on discovery channel and they predict that by year 2020 we will have one thing for everything to be our smart solution. One device that will be our phone, PC, TV and car navigation.

So who know what will we expect in this 3 years from now. Maybe will be paying with our mind.

It would be amazing to have an all in one device like you said, in order to make our life easier. As technology is advancing at a fast pace, everything is possible here.

I believe that at some point in the future, internet access would spread at a global scale, allowing even third world countries to get a grasp of this technology. When this comes in, a cashless society may come into effect, as every device around the world will become empowered by the Internet of Value, allowing anyone to pay for services, in a quick and convenient way.

As for paying with our minds, this may not be far from becoming a reality within a few years from now. The whole world will change for the better with these technologies, as everything would be fully automated and autonomous, from drones to bots, and smart contract powered driverless cars. With a cashless society, all these things will become possible. Just my opinion Smiley
I’m not so sure that the consequences of a cashless society are going to be that good and that there are not going to be consequences, the reason governments are pushing for this is that they want to tax all your income and they want to know what you are doing with every transaction, so a cashless society is going to allow countries even more control over your life.


Was it good or bad this is something that will happen one day or another. Everything new has and it will have flaws and setback. Everything new have it and it will be like that.
Think that main concern will be putted on Earth ecology on this rather then something else we really are in red zone on some point of planet.
650  Economy / Speculation / Re: The biggest bitcoin crash ever has begun. on: August 14, 2017, 06:57:30 PM
Gosh you guys are so ignorant.
Just because the crash seems to have been postponed at this point doesn't mean there isn't a HUGE imminent thread to the continuity of the bitcoin network and ecosystem in November.
Everything that is happening now is whales preparing to walk out with their bags full of fiat cash before the Novemver fork.
Im suspecting the same thing too on which on this upcoming fork on November  would be the dumping and would somehow be the same on the situation like on August 1 event which the price have fallen back again on 1800 price and it will surely happen again on this upcoming November this is why we should really be wise on exiting or selling out our bitcoin on peak prices and buy again when it was still cheap back again.

Also think it will crash but im expecting it in late September and early October not before that. Every time in the past when certain point in price is eached bitcoin then fall down this is something that cannot be evaded only postponed nothing else. We will see crash but we will not see this now not this month at least.
651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as the currency of the future? on: August 14, 2017, 06:46:54 PM
Bitcoin as a currency will not be a good option as the prices of Bitcoin is not fixed and those who holds l Bitcoin for a longer time get more profit just because of the increase in its prices so people won't prefer to spend Bitcoin much so it won't be in demand

It can be alternative at some point in future. Ok, price is not fixed it cannot be fixed many factor must be in motion for bitcoin to be fixed on price, and this will not happen at all. This is beauty of bitcoin constant price change, and increase of users to buy and hope for bigger rise in price.
652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: August 14, 2017, 01:36:25 PM
in my perspective it is not right to say LITECOIN is "dead" otherwise we can say it is sinking and going to be lower in value... but as of now there are still many miners of litecoin. i dont think about the dev if there are still update to it...

I think the price difference between the bitcoin and litecoin will be more in the future.
There are only a few coins that are able to battle with bitcoin.
I don't see any surprise in that if the difference in value between ltc and btc widens in future as the price in insanely increasing which ltc isn't and even if ltc increases, the % of increment are not the same. Ltc us not necessarily dead or sinking. We mistaken this by comparing with btc value which is wrong.

Litecoin is the coin, for safe and sure btc storage. Most use this when they dont know what to do or invest they put coin in lite cuz coin is stable they wont lose much or gain much. This is something that is good for some people cuz they search for stability but rest are just here when they see rise opportunity for easy  money.
653  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopay Bitcoin Debit card + Giveaway on: August 13, 2017, 07:30:37 PM
Have question if this is answered on some other page dont blame didnt want to read right now. Can I use this card to purchase from ebay, amazon, AliExpress and similar sites.

Hello! Yes, you can use the card for purchases on eBay, Amazon and AliExpress. It works like any other VISA debit card.

!0x for reply, probably is mentioned and answered here but like i said didnt want to read, this was faster response.
654  Economy / Economics / Re: stable currency on: August 12, 2017, 12:54:40 PM
i was just wondering
how much more time BTC needs to become a little more stable?
in past 24 hours BTC exchange rate have increased 19.1%

i am not really sure why it went down on the first place
but i am happy that they are UP now
& i am still wondering what make the price increase :/


to be honest i dont know much about the tech.
all i know is the rate is decided by the trading ratio & volume...

and according to news 2 largest dark web market(alphabay & hasana) have been shutdown by feds
& i think that most of the BTC transaction come from dark web......
so closing of those market should decrease the trade volume
and it should affect the price......
so down it mean that exchange rate will decrease again??

Stable currency can be called bitcoins in other way as it's taking its real position in the world market day by day so there's probably a chance that bitcoins may take dollar and get ahead as the most valuable and stable currency in the world

True, bitcoin is rated as stable against altcoins, so it's commonly used, however, if you compare it to cash, its value is too volatile, not trending certain.

Bitcoin was stable few weeks ago when price was in steady range meaning 1-2% price fluctuation up and down. When this chain is broken then price is rising or falling. But if we compare it to some alt bitcoin is rising and alt are stable at the moment. Some say let it stay like that others that alt will go up some say they will fall.

On other hand cash, papers money used for centuries around the globe in different forms and shapes is something that when need can be printed, so technically values of that is going down and bitcoin is going up.
655  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: August 11, 2017, 08:17:23 PM
I do not think that the cash will disappear completely. In the system of electronic money there can be a failure and there must always be an alternative for a person to make purchases at any time.

For alternative is ok. But we all are new to bitcoin and not just that we cannot replace something that is here for ages. Money in any way is used far more longer then bitcoin. Bitcoin brought something new and revolutionary but still everything is still spinning around money "paper money". That is something that is very hard to remove completely and not to mentioned if this comes to be, it cannot be happen over night.
656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 11, 2017, 08:13:54 PM
Not only observations. In trading you can also use a lot of tools which support your decisions like technical analysis indicators etc. In gambling you trust on your luck. In trading you have much better chances to make a gain while gambling wins totally depends on your luck. Of course in betting and dice you have some options to decrease the factor of luck but playing slots games for instance does not.

Trading is the best method to earn more bitcoins in short term comparatively gambling is too risky and there is always an fear of loosing money in it as only luck will decide your end result and that makes gambling very risky form of making money.

But in trading you should have good money management and skills to survive under different market conditions.So it is more risky than gambling if you dont know what you are doing.

Yes, in trading we need to learn basics before jumping into it or just buy some good coins and hold it until prices go up. Because if people want to make a profit on a daily basis then they need to be experts but if you want to be an investor then study the coins before purchasing and wait for prices to go up to sell. Trading is a safer way to make money than gambling.
Observations are the foremost condition to become professional in the field of trading. Trading is a safer method as compared to gambling .it is required to save your bitcoins during the dumping phase and must wait for the right time when the prices become high enough to earn suitable amounts through trading. It is quite helpful to join trading discussion forums so as to have required knowledge about it.

This depends of what type of gambling are you talking about. In sport gambling you always have sure bet and easy wins, in casino games is more experience rather then luck, luck is more for dice games from my experience. Trading is something that can be very profitable with right choices in right time. Outcome in this type of situation can be huge.
657  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: August 11, 2017, 08:10:34 PM
I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?
I have been said this that bitcoin will reduce unemployment to a level were the world has not been before. Bitcoin as a pinoer cryptocurrency has created alot of opportunity for different projects and new ico are pumping up every day and many of them do bring they campaign here and many of us work hard to promote them for some satoshi. The mining are there too creating employment for programmers and analysis. We the risk taker are also making money through trading both bitcoin and altcoins trading,  margin trading and arbitration.


Your right

Bitcoin is mean of paying of any job or task. If you are good in some sort of desired skill for some task (design, programming, development...) then you can get payed like any other freelancer in the world. Will it be bitcoin or some alt or even dollar euros, or some other currency. This will not reduce unemployment this is made for everyone. If you have skill or talent you will get some if not learn to be good in some skill that is good and maybe profitable.
658  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: August 11, 2017, 07:51:08 PM
When is late, never is late to buy. Buying it now even with this high price is good if you bough is this morning for example in the evening you already got interest on it.
So math is simple here price will go just up and up, buy while you still can then when price suits you requirement sell it. And go over it again.
659  Economy / Economics / Re: When will more retailers accept Bitcoin on: August 11, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
I keep hearing about "legalization" of bitcoin.  Huh

Where is it that you think bitcoin is illegal?

For this is mainly think when they laundry money over bitcoin or some other crypto. Second there were even talks about it in 2015 when this was mainly questioned but that is now past tense. Legalization is something like Japan done it, they accepted it in every day trade and purchase and this is something that need to progress for all countries and to get global scale.
660  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopay Bitcoin Debit card + Giveaway on: August 10, 2017, 06:51:24 PM
Have question if this is answered on some other page dont blame didnt want to read right now. Can I use this card to purchase from ebay, amazon, AliExpress and similar sites.
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